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How does Chaos Amped Horus fare against the whole verse?

Add Magnus if its rape.

They're both killed fairly easily.

Really? I wasn't aware FF7 packed firepower beyond the destruction of the entire surface of a planet.

That's a little academic, as the power too obliterate the entire surface of a planet isn't necessary to kill either Primarchs.

Furthermore, I wasn't aware Horus nor Magus had packed firepower to obliterate the entire surface of a planet. That would have sure come in handy when Magnus and the Thousand Sons were getting butt****ed by the Space Wolves.

Not really since if they nuked the planet they would you know destroy their own guys, not something to worry about here.

And that level of power is required to breach Magnus' psychic shield, since he was flat out stated to be stronger than an entire cults worth of Psychics and less than that number held out to the entire surface of the Prospero minus Tizca getting obliterate.

Magnus was causing world wide lightning storms, hurricane force winds, and earthquakes ect just as side effects of his battle with Russ.

4 God amped Horus should be psychically above Magnus actually.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
That's a little academic, as the power too obliterate the entire surface of a planet isn't necessary to kill either Primarchs.

Furthermore, I wasn't aware Horus nor Magus had packed firepower to obliterate the entire surface of a planet. That would have sure come in handy when Magnus and the Thousand Sons were getting butt****ed by the Space Wolves.

Magnus was tearing apart the surface of Prospero during his fight with Russ.

That said, both solo pretty easily.

Wanted to edit but its too late so sorry for the double post.

Magnus with access to much less psychic energy in this thread also mind raped all of earth as a side effect from his spell and he was half a galaxy away at the time.

He also effortlessly conjured up a mountain much bigger than olympus mons, stopped the rubrics world wide thunderstorm etc, easily too I believe.

While all primarch's certainly aren't near planetary level Magnus is somewhat special.

Lol.

Magnus or Horus could enslave the verse as their mind thralls.

If this is Daemon Prince Magnus, he has shown to effortlessly dispel life wiping spells.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Magnus was tearing apart the surface of Prospero during his fight with Russ.

That said, both solo pretty easily. Everytime you kick up sand on a beach while waking on it you're "tearing apart the surface of the planet". The "amount" of surface that is being torn up is important to establish.Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Not really since if they nuked the planet they would you know destroy their own guys, not something to worry about here.

And that level of power is required to breach Magnus' psychic shield, since he was flat out stated to be stronger than an entire cults worth of Psychics and less than that number held out to the entire surface of the Prospero minus Tizca getting obliterate.

Magnus was causing world wide lightning storms, hurricane force winds, and earthquakes ect just as side effects of his battle with Russ.

4 God amped Horus should be psychically above Magnus actually. Except for when he's getting his spine snapped by the Wolfking or getting shot at by Eldar Titans, apparently. Then his shields suddenly aren't able to withstand planet busting attacks.

There's a reason why every primarch has a massive army behind him when he invades planets. It's because he can't do it by himself. None of them can.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Wanted to edit but its too late so sorry for the double post.

Magnus with access to much less psychic energy in this thread also mind raped all of earth as a side effect from his spell and he was half a galaxy away at the time.

He also effortlessly conjured up a mountain much bigger than olympus mons, stopped the rubrics world wide thunderstorm etc, easily too I believe.

While all primarch's certainly aren't near planetary level Magnus is somewhat special.

He did so with the help of his team of Psycher captains, and a huge amount of sacrificed slaves. Please don't try to use that argument again.

He did those things after he accepted Tzeentch's power and became his slave. Not applicable, unless you meant Daemon-Prince Magnus for this thread.

Magnus creating giant storms across the planet contradicts your claim that he held-back against the Space Wolves out of a reluctance to destroy his own guys.

If he's willing to conjure giant storms across the world, there's no reason just wiping the planet would be out of the question.

And he had to project his power over a distance of quadrillions of times farther than this match and had to breach the Emperor's own psychic seals on the webway, It should about even out.

Him conjuring world wide storms doesn't contradict anything, most of planet was fairly ****ed at that point, he wasn't killing civillians or his sons. If he just flat out nuked everything he would have killed them.

Why would it be anything but the current version of Magnus? And the energy to teleport the people to the planet of sorcerers was from Magnus sacrificing his body, Tzeentch certainly saved his soul after he did that but the spell was powered by him.

Off topic but, how do think Zack would do against Arguleon Veq in full gear?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And he had to project his power over a distance of quadrillions of times farther than this match and had to breach the Emperor's own psychic seals on the webway, It should about even out.Again, ee was only able to do this by harnessing the psychic power of his captains and burning out a bunch of psychic slaves. This is not something he was able to do under his own power. Furthermore, being able to project his consciousness around the warp has no bearing on his offensive potential.

Please provide an instance of doing this before (nuking a planet) that implies that he even has this power.

Why not? Most Magnus vs. threads I've participated in exempt his Deamon prince status because we don't know much about it.

I dunno. -shrug-

The distance he had to do over and the strength of the wards is exactly why he needed that extra help. Distance always has a bearing on power, it is much harder to maintain power over larger distances. In fact the Thralls were already dead by the time he disengaged his spell, and he undid his spell by choice, out of shame not because he had to.

He maintained planet wide thunderstorms of immeratieral lightning that destroying armored vehicles and dozens of space marines with each bolt, to do so over a sustained time which he did along with all the other crazy stuff more than adds up to messing up the surface of the planet, which he already did anyways.

It was mentioned several times how the entire planet was beginning to break apart during Russ and Magnus' fight.

Magnus the Red could mentally dominate Lorgar when he got tired of Lorgar's internet tough guy bullshit, from the other side of the galaxy, and while creating a sort of psychic avatar which by Magnus's words take a good deal of power to do from such a distance.

In the same story, Lorgar telepathically brutalised the Daemon that possessed Fulgrim, you know, the same one that used an entire planet's indigenous inhabitants as mind thralls to protect it while it was but a Daemon Sword.

Magnus's telepathy is enough that he could turn all of the big names and most of the characters period into mind thralls, or just kill them with a glance, and could destroy the bigger baddies like Omega Weapon with powerful psychic blasts that, as per A Thousand Sons, are more powerful than an orbital bombardment.

Let alone Chaos Horus, who is in another league entirely.