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McClane is on the Orca with Brody, Quint, and Hooper. Jaws destroys the boat and eats all three original crew members.

McClane is floating in the water with a 9mm (waterproof) with three 9 round mags and a khyber knife.

Jaws is still hungry.

Who wins?

Jaws eats him.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Jaws eats him.

This. Unless there's a spare compressed air tank around...

McClane floats higher, (unless the altitude he floats at so far is sufficient to stay out of the way) and Jaws (unless Jaws has wings) stalemates out and/or drowns.

Yipeekiayaaaaayy fishy dude.

Originally posted by roughrider
This. Unless there's a spare compressed air tank around...

Yes, by screen feats, there would be.

McClane solos.

McClane eats Jaws.

Can't McClane just one shot Jaws back into the depths from which he came???

Well he is that lucky/skilled with his aim, by screen feats...and John Williams would most likely pair up with Michael Kamen to compose the ultimate Harp/Bassoon post destruction win piece to signify the amount of righteous triumphant winnage that it would quite naturally be.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well he is that lucky.

yep

Indeed. He has a horse shoe the size of the canyon of the crescent moon up his ass...but mostly he just really liked the sequinned shirts of Roy Rogers.

Wouldn't John lose, at least, a limb?

Originally posted by Impediment
Wouldn't John lose, at least, a limb?

with McClane's luck if he did lose a limb, it would grow back.

Jaws was different from other sharks he could attacked vertically. Instead of slowly rising our lowering his height horizontally. Although there have been other records of sharks moving vertically and launching out of the water.

If McClane is all that's left. Jaws can attack without the exploding barrels or the 9mm being a threat. In the film the hero had a boat to climb into. McClane is floating in the water. He stands no chance of surviving Jaws.

McClane uses his bald head to deflect sunlight into Jaw's eyes blinding it momentarily.

He then uses the time for a montage where he makeshifts a deadly knife-bomb using elastic from his briefs & strapping the 9mm rounds to his khyber blade...plunging it into Jaws underbelly.

The resonating yell of, "YIPPEE KIA" & McClane's frantic dog-paddling triggers the bullets to fire simultaneously.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well he is that lucky/skilled with his aim, by screen feats...and John Williams would most likely pair up with Michael Kamen to compose the ultimate Harp/Bassoon post destruction win piece to signify the amount of righteous triumphant winnage that it would quite naturally be.

Haha

Originally posted by the ninjak
Jaws was different from other sharks he could attacked vertically. Instead of slowly rising our lowering his height horizontally. Although there have been other records of sharks moving vertically and launching out of the water.

If McClane is all that's left. Jaws can attack without the exploding barrels or the 9mm being a threat. In the film the hero had a boat to climb into. McClane is floating in the water. He stands no chance of surviving Jaws.

This is so full of fail. What in McClane's four movies leads you to believe he would float idly by and allow himself to become chum?

He'd take the fight to jaws; he'd dive and go shark-hunter with that waterproof 9mm. Jaws has no chance here. I'm assuming this is the uber experienced McClane from DH4, so he's bald; that means he'd have less resistance in the water and could likely out-swim Jaws; or in the very least keep up.

Yes DH3 showed us that his abilities in the world of hydrodynamics are quite unimpaired. He'd shoot that shark right in the eyeholes, then berate it for ruining a perfectly good hangover, with it's shark-insolence...

Shooting a 9mm pistol into the ocean whilst the shark is rising directly at him won't take any effect until within 8 ft.
And by then McClane is shooting into teeth.

There was a MythBusters episode on it.

Well how did their test go that involved shooting that shark in the eyes from 6ft away, gutting it with a Khyber knife, then pulling half of Robert Shaw out of it's digestive tract and slapping the now dead shark in the face with said remains go?

Jaws is gonna need a bigger boat.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Shooting a 9mm pistol into the ocean whilst the shark is rising directly at him won't take any effect until within 8 ft.
And by then McClane is shooting into teeth.

There was a MythBusters episode on it.

LoL, you think McClane is going to panic from a shark closing in? The man casually stares down super-terrorist, explosives and F-35 Lightning II's all before lunch-time.

8 feet, even better for McClane, his aim is great at a 100 feet, at just 8 he could easily put several bullets in Jaw's eye thereby killing it instantly and then it'd just be a dead shark bumping into McClane.

Outcome of your scenario: McClane enjoys a couple shark-steaks with his beer and whiskey chaser.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well how did their test go that involved shooting that shark in the eyes from 6ft away, gutting it with a Khyber knife, then pulling half of Robert Shaw out of it's digestive tract and slapping the now dead shark in the face with said remains go?

Jaws is gonna need a bigger boat.

Hahahaha

A 9mm's bullets aren't going to travel through water at any signifigant velocity to kill a mother****ing great white, let alone one as big as Jaws, and frankly it probably would barely do shit even out of water.

McClane gets eaten, followed by his ballsack polishers in this thread.

Originally posted by NemeBro
A 9mm's bullets aren't going to travel through water at any signifigant velocity to kill a mother****ing great white, let alone one as big as Jaws, and frankly it probably would barely do shit even out of water.

McClane gets eaten, followed by his ballsack polishers in this thread.

A bullet can kill you under water, the water lessons the effective range, not how lethal it is.

Please, Jaws gets taken out by common men, you think someone like McClane armed with a gun is going to get eaten here. Haters gonna hate.

Don't be calling us haters just cause your boy McClane gone and got himself eaten.

And distance per feet underwater does effect the lethality.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Don't be calling us haters just cause your boy McClane gone and got himself eaten.

And distance per feet underwater does effect the lethality.

Not by a shark, pal.

No, bullets are still lethal underwater (ie they can kill you), the water lessons the effective range. You even claimed "8 feet", which is plenty of distance for McClane to drop two bullets in Jaw's skull.

http://www.fortheloveofgarlic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sharksteak-300x179.jpg <--- Mclane's dinner that night

Followed by dessert ---> http://www.drugfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/alcohol1-300x267.jpg

Originally posted by Robtard
A bullet can kill you under water, the water lessons the effective range, not how lethal it is.

Please, Jaws gets taken out by common men, you think someone like McClane armed with a gun is going to get eaten here. Haters gonna hate. Lolwut.

Why do you think the bullet stops? Do you think Poseidon, god of the sea, commands the bullet to stop which then complies?

No mother****er, it slows the hell down, and it being able to kill a relatively frail human underwater doesn't equate to killing a huge great white that it probably couldn't kill while underwater.

Yes, he is gonna get eaten here. Also Jaws is a better movie than Die Hard.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lolwut.

Why do you think the bullet stops? Do you think Poseidon, god of the sea, commands the bullet to stop which then complies?

No mother****er, it slows the hell down, and it being able to kill a relatively frail human underwater doesn't equate to killing a huge great white that it probably couldn't kill while underwater.

Yes, he is gonna get eaten here. Also Jaws is a better movie than Die Hard.

Resistance. That has nothing to do with bullets magically not being lethal underwater, as you seem to think.

Jaws has died several times in the films, pal. A bullet to the brain from "8 feet" (as shown to be effective by Myth Busters) is killing it.

No, he's eating shark-steaks. That's just the ghey in you talking.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Jaws eats him.

Is McClane still bleeding from the crash and eating of the first part of the meal?

He always has nicks and cuts all over the place, or like in DH1, bleeding feet. How else is he supposed to rise above all, terrorist's plot or physical pain, to save the day?

With Jaws, all that blood is going to be a lot more dangerous.

If anything, Jaws (Who moves very slowly and rubberly even in bloodlust mode) is gonna have to close on McClane, and get past Khyber knifeage and of course, those bullets.
And that shark's luck is definitely not up to McClanian standards.
Leading to disaster for Mr.Fishy.

And if McClane has his DH1 screen feats attributes, (Including Mcclane's patented 'infinite-bleeding-with-no-death' technique), then Jaws gets C4'd.

Either way, Jaws will be very afraid to go into the water (after being blown from it) after this encounter.

Would a submerged pistol even work underwater after the first 2 or 3 shots??

Aiming down. Water messes guns up.

Watched all the Die Hard movies with my boys last night.

Yea, Jaws is fuuuuuuuck*d here. I pity anyone who goes up against McClane.

Originally posted by siriuswriter
Is McClane still bleeding from the crash and eating of the first part of the meal?

He always has nicks and cuts all over the place, or like in DH1, bleeding feet. How else is he supposed to rise above all, terrorist's plot or physical pain, to save the day?

With Jaws, all that blood is going to be a lot more dangerous.

Good point.

McClane's bleed in every film, it's just what he does, so it's safe to say he'd be bleeding here after a boat explosion.

All that blood is going to be a lot more dangerous for Jaws, sharks have a heightened sense of smell for 'blood in the water', so with McClane's high blood-alcohol content Jaws is going to be severely affected by it, dizzy, loss of coordination, confusion and a possible sense of euphoria and/or depression.

Mcclane waits for his moment and then sends jaws to the bottom of the ocean

McClane eats Jaws.

Originally posted by Robtard
Resistance. That has nothing to do with bullets magically not being lethal underwater, as you seem to think.

Jaws has died several times in the films, pal. A bullet to the brain from "8 feet" (as shown to be effective by Myth Busters) is killing it.

No, he's eating shark-steaks. That's just the ghey in you talking.

No. A 9mm isn't doing jack poop to Jaws. Remember when Quint was shooting it in the head and Dreyfuss was like "don't waste your time?" He's an expert on sharks and their anatomy, and he knows bullets will not kill Jaws.

Myth busters? Wait, you're applying a reality show to a movie? Can't do that. What is shown in the movies, according to the rules here, matters most.


Jaws>>>>>>>>Bullets.

Jaws opens his mouth to eat McClane.

McClane swims inside Jaws, then eats him from the inside out.

Fact.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
No. A 9mm isn't doing jack poop to Jaws. Remember when Quint was shooting it in the head and Dreyfuss was like "don't waste your time?" He's an expert on sharks and their anatomy, and he knows bullets will not kill Jaws.

Myth busters? Wait, you're applying a reality show to a movie? Can't do that. What is shown in the movies, according to the rules here, matters most.


Jaws>>>>>>>>Bullets.

Incorrect. A bullet to Jaws' brain will kill it.

Not me, some other people cried and tried to use real-world physics, if they don't count, then McClane shoots Jaws dead far easier via movie-land physics.

McClane >>>>>>> F35 Lightning II.

F35 Lightning II >>>>>>> Jaws

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect. A bullet to Jaws' brain will kill it.

Not me, some other people cried and tried to use real-world physics, if they don't count, then McClane shoots Jaws dead far easier via movie-land physics.

McClane >>>>>>> F35 Lightning II.

F35 Lightning II >>>>>>> Jaws

So real life science/ballistics trump what is said/seen in the movies?

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
So real life science/ballistics trump what is said/seen in the movies?

Other people(aka idiots) were claiming a bullet wasn't lethal under water and then claimed a 9mm is only effective at 8' under water. I was debating using their rational and still showed how McClane puts two into Jaws' brain and then has some shark steaks.

Or you know, read the god damned thread.

Originally posted by Robtard
Other people(aka idiots) were claiming a bullet wasn't lethal under water and then claimed a 9mm is only effective at 8' under water. I was debating using their rational and still showed how McClane puts two into Jaws' brain and then has some shark steaks.

Or you know, read the god damned thread. I read it. But the rules here state that what is shown on screen counts. Dreyfus told Quint not to waste his time shooting at Jaws because the bullets would be ineffective. The bullets Quint used were far larger than a 9mm. Also, Brody unloaded on Jaws' head with 6 .357 rounds and Jaws didn't even flinch.

Now, if Jaws gets the scuba tank in it's mouth and the fight takes place like it did at the end, that's another matter entirely.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
I read it. But the rules here state that what is shown on screen counts. Dreyfus told Quint not to waste his time shooting at Jaws because the bullets would be ineffective. The bullets Quint used were far larger than a 9mm. Also, Brody unloaded on Jaws' head with 6 .357 rounds and Jaws didn't even flinch.

Now, if Jaws gets the scuba tank in it's mouth and the fight takes place like it did at the end, that's another matter entirely.

Yes, from above and while on the boat. McClane's in the water and hunting.

McClane is a master of his environment. So if there's a scuba tank. it's going up Jaws' ass and then being exploded.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, from above and while on the boat. McClane's in the water and hunting.

McClane is a master of his environment. So if there's a scuba tank. it's going up Jaws' ass and then being exploded.

The bullets will have far less velocity underwater. Also, a 9mm round is not as powerful as a .357.

Even if McClane were shooting at Jaws' body that is exposed to the air, the bullets will do nothing. This is not some run of the mill shark, it's Jaws.

But again, the scuba tank is a game changer.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
The bullets will have far less velocity underwater. Also, a 9mm round is not as powerful as a .357.

Even if McClane were shooting at Jaws' body that is exposed to the air, the bullets will do nothing. This is not some run of the mill shark, it's Jaws.

But again, the scuba tank is a game changer.

Correct; that's been covered.

McClane not being an idiot would go underwater.

Listen, I see that you're fairly new here so I'll let you in on the know, I'm kinda of a big deal around these parts; it's best not to argue with me, unless you like to be proved wrong.

Originally posted by Robtard
Correct; that's been covered.

McClane not being an idiot would go underwater.

Listen, I see that you're fairly new here so I'll let you in on the know, I'm kinda of a big deal around these parts; it's best not to argue with me, unless you like to be proved wrong. Who's arguing? I thought we were just talking.

You said a bullet to the brain from 8 feet will kill Jaws and I proved you wrong, that's all. If a larger, more powerful bullet won't do the job, then a smaller, less powerful won't do the job.

Exploding scuba tank? Yeah, that'll do the job.

You're making an apple to oranges comparison. A fat slob shooting from a boat isn't the same as a McCLane in the water making precision shots. A bullet from 8 feet will liquidity Jaws' brain.

Mac...everytime

Originally posted by Robtard
You're making an apple to oranges comparison. A fat slob shooting from a boat isn't the same as a McCLane in the water making precision shots. A bullet from 8 feet will liquidity Jaws' brain.

Brody was not a fat slob. He was shooting a .357 magnum from 10 feet away into Jaws' head and Jaws didn't even flinch.

.357 is a bigger, more powerful bullet than a 9mm.

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Brody was not a fat slob. He was shooting a .357 magnum from 10 feet away into Jaws' head and Jaws didn't even flinch.

.357 is a bigger, more powerful bullet than a 9mm.

Ah good another one sees McClane getting chowed down.

Mcclane is lucky enough to not only shoot the beast in a vulnerbale postion, but also that the bullet would after penetrating, find it's way to the compressed air tank. (which was in Jaws' mouth, anyways IIRC)

And no awards would have to be given to those who could predict what 2 word (11 then 12 letters) catchphrase that would be said as Jaws explodes....

Too bad for McClane the boat is gone and the other sailors are dead, and he's just floating in the water with the gas tanks floating aimlessly.

And Jaws knows how to swim vertically towards his prey so McClane is munchies.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Too bad for McClane the boat is gone and the other sailors are dead, and he's just floating in the water with the gas tanks floating aimlessly.

And Jaws knows how to swim vertically towards his prey so McClane is munchies. Oh shit I totally missed the fact that the Orca is gone here.

Yeah, McClane gets eaten. The silver lining for him is that Jaws will probably be gassy afterwards.

Jaws was no ordinary shark, they proved on myth busters that an average Great White of Jaws' size could not do the feats that shark pulled off.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Mac...everytime Oh, it's you...mmmOriginally posted by Newjak
Jaws was no ordinary shark, they proved on myth busters that an average Great White of Jaws' size could not do the feats that shark pulled off. I figured Jaws eating the boat gave that away.

Originally posted by Badabing
Oh, it's you...mmm I figured Jaws eating the boat gave that away. Not just eating the boat though, he pulled it when it had full engines going the opposite direction. Enough to pull the back end low enough to let water in

Maybe McClane could hold a gas tank while Jaws eats him. Then McClane's last breath can be spent blowing up the tank, killing both himself and the shark and winning via TKO

McClanes a good enough shot and lucky enough to shoot a tank in Jaws' mouth from distance just far enough to survive the blast from..

Originally posted by the ninjak
Ah good another one sees McClane getting chowed down.

McClane's not lost in far worse scenarios, he's not losing to a shark or to the shark in the sequel. /fact

McClanes eats shark steak for months

Originally posted by Lestov16
Maybe McClane could hold a gas tank while Jaws eats him. Then McClane's last breath can be spent blowing up the tank, killing both himself and the shark and winning via TKO

My girl told me Jaws ability to eat victims from directly underneath was a camera trick and that Jaws always attacked on a slight diagonal horizontal rise....like all sharks.

So that feat doesn't exist anymore.

McClane and his McClane Factor win this

Originally posted by the ninjak
My girl told me Jaws ability to eat victims from directly underneath was a camera trick and that Jaws always attacked on a slight diagonal horizontal rise....like all sharks.

So that feat doesn't exist anymore. Does that really matter?

Jaws

Originally posted by Mr. Tibbs
Does that really matter?

Not really, since McClane is obviously > a shark.

The McClane Factor is insignificant next to the power of The Force.

I can buy this theory! Originally posted by Robtard
This is so full of fail. What in McClane's four movies leads you to believe he would float idly by and allow himself to become chum?

He'd take the fight to jaws; he'd dive and go shark-hunter with that waterproof 9mm. Jaws has no chance here. I'm assuming this is the uber experienced McClane from DH4, so he's bald; that means he'd have less resistance in the water and could likely out-swim Jaws; or in the very least keep up.

Originally posted by Impediment
The McClane Factor is insignificant next to the power of The Force.

Probably, considering the Force is a universal binding power.

So it's likely The Force > McClane > The Death Star > Jaws

Originally posted by Robtard
Probably, considering the Force is a universal binding power.

So it's likely The Force > McClane > The Death Star > Jaws



the batkick is far far greater than those

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
the batkick is far far greater than those

The batkick is an abstract and can't be used in comparison. It's both with limits and limitless.

Originally posted by Robtard
The batkick is an abstract and can't be used in comparison. It's both with limits and limitless.