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Rate the non elite/second tier strength class.

Wonder Woman
Martian manhunter
Namor
Wonder man
Thing
Nova Prime
Korg
Apollo
Rulk
Wendigo (at his Prime)
Sasquash

Apollo
Rulk
MM
Wendigo
WM
Namor
Korg
Thing
Sassy
WW
Nova

Meh...

Rulk
Apollo
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Nova Prime
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Korg
Sasquatch
Thing

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Meh...

Rulk
Apollo
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Nova Prime
Namor
Wonder Man
Wendigo
Korg
Sasquatch
Thing

I can agree with this. I would put Wendigo a lil higher though.

Originally posted by carver9
I can agree with this. I would put Wendigo a lil higher though.

you'd switch with wonder man then?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
you'd switch with wonder man then?

I don't know. Wonderman have some amazing showings. I don't even know who's stronger out of Wonderman and Nova Prime or Namor. Do you consider Namor recent fight against Thing as a low showing.?

hell yeah i do

Rulk
Wonder Woman
Martian manhunter
Apollo
Wonder man
Namor
Nova Prime
Thing
Korg
Wendigo (at his Prime)
Sasquash

Originally posted by CosmicComet
hell yeah i do

haermm

Wendigo
Rulk
Sasquatch (Not sure on this one, he moves up or down depending on how much power he gets from the Great Beasts.)
Wonder Woman/Hydrated Namor/Martian Manhunter/Wonder Man
Apollo
Nova Prime
Korg/Thing

Originally posted by dmills
haermm

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
6eZcV1UuUzI

No you didn't just take it back to 1998 with a parappa the rapper vid lmao! Wow!

That, was a threat.

You've been warned. Be afraid.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That, was a threat.

You've been warned. Be afraid.

You're a strange cat sometimes CC.

Originally posted by dmills
You're a strange cat sometimes CC.

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
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Originally posted by carver9
I don't know. Wonderman have some amazing showings. I don't even know who's stronger out of Wonderman and Nova Prime or Namor. Do you consider Namor recent fight against Thing as a low showing.?

They're all about equal though technically Rider should be able to go much higher.

Originally posted by dmills
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Originally posted by CosmicComet
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Originally posted by dmills
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Wonder Woman via getting shit on in this thread.

Glamorous

Originally posted by dmills
They're all about equal though technically Rider should be able to go much higher.

I agree...I can't believe people are voting him so low.

Rulk
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Apollo
Wendigo
Namor/Wonder Man/Nova
Sasquatch
Thing/Korg

Originally posted by CosmicComet
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Awesomeness.

If this is a secondary tier strenght list, where is Thor?

As for the Answer:


1) Wonderman
2) Who cares

Originally posted by carver9
I agree...I can't believe people are voting him so low.

Not many feats of strength to go on for Rider, so it takes some detective work. His Nova corps file says his strength is incalculable. Marvel (which usually low sells strength levels) has his strength rating as a 7, which is above Namor's. Saal with the full Nova force was vastly stronger the likes of Wonder Man, Thing et al. But I just base it on the what I know about how his power works, the relative ease that he heaved that 100,000+ ton technarch, no selling Korg punching him, the ease with which he slapped Venom away, stalemated the surfer in their little grappling match without amping, etc. Taken all together it doesn't take a genius to extrapolate where he is in terms of strength. And that's before he even amps his power level.

Originally posted by dmills
Not many feats of strength to go on for Rider, so it takes some detective work. His Nova corps file says his strength is incalculable. Marvel (which usually low sells strength levels) has his strength rating as a 7, which is above Namor's. Saal with the full Nova force was vastly stronger the likes of Wonder Man, Thing et al. But I just base it on the what I know about how his power works, the relative ease that he heaved that 100,000+ ton technarch, no selling Korg punching him, the ease with which he slapped Venom away, stalemated the surfer in their little grappling match without amping, etc. Taken all together it doesn't take a genius to extrapolate where he is in terms of strength. And that's before he even amps his power level.

I agree that Nova is strong as hell (technarch, the stuff he did on the planet Galactus was eating), but I'm p.sure Surfer won that grappling match, seeing as he pushed the two of them down onto the planet making a crater.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I agree that Nova is strong as hell (technarch, the stuff he did on the planet Galactus was eating), but I'm p.sure Surfer won that grappling match, seeing as he pushed the two of them down onto the planet making a crater.

Nope. Nova was on top (hehe) so if any forcing was done it was by him.

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Actual looking at it again, the second scan it looks like it perhaps can be a side view as well. Either way its clearly not Norrin forcing Nova down to the planet.

As a side note, I love the way that the art team depicted their clash. Nova's gravimetric energies contrasted with the Surfer's cosmic energies. They really nailed that scene.

So where would you rank Nova mills?

Originally posted by carver9
So where would you rank Nova mills?

Just as his nova corps file explains and the books show, his strength is based on however much gravimetric energy he's channeling. The same power he uses to open warps, or whatever is the same that he can use for physical enhancement and really doesn't have a set limit. One minute he could be struggling against Xenith, another he can temporarily over power a technarch sire. But for the sake of battle boards the evidence is a bit more demanding then supplemental comic files and what not, So I'd say he operates on the level of a Namor more or less. However being that the Nova force is an open ended plot device they could write him one-shotting elite strong men and it'll be no shocker to people that know the mythos.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wendigo
Rulk
Sasquatch (Not sure on this one, he moves up or down depending on how much power he gets from the Great Beasts.)
Wonder Woman/Hydrated Namor/Martian Manhunter/Wonder Man
Apollo
Nova Prime
Korg/Thing
so you admit that WBH would melt all of these guys with a single indirect punch?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
so you admit that WBH would melt all of these guys with a single indirect punch?

You think strength and durability are one in the same? There are a couple of guys on this list that could sleep through the force that melted Wendigo and company.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
so you admit that WBH would melt all of these guys with a single indirect punch?

That's assuming that the Wendigo in the Dark Dimension is on par with the strongest incarnation ever.

Originally posted by dmills
You think strength and durability are one in the same? There are a couple of guys on this list that could sleep through the force that melted Wendigo and company.

well realistically, there is a correlation between strength and durability.

comics don't always heed to that, but they often seem to.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
well realistically, there is a correlation between strength and durability.

comics don't always heed to that, but they often seem to.

You're technically right, however as you said, its not always the case. Rhino was stronger than old school Nova, but still nearly ko'd himself running into Rich while Nova was knocked away and (while annoyed) was completely unharmed.

Originally posted by dmills
You're technically right, however as you said, its not always the case. Rhino was stronger than old school Nova, but still nearly ko'd himself running into Rich while Nova was knocked away and (while annoyed) was completely unharmed.

Yeah but it's Rhino.

^Well nova is a jobber, what did you expect?131

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Yeah but it's Rhino.



But still, at the time he was the stronger of the two.

Here's the scene lol...

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Originally posted by carver9
Rate the non elite/second tier strength class.

Wonder Woman
Martian manhunter
Namor
Wonder man
Thing
Nova Prime
Korg
Apollo
Rulk
Wendigo (at his Prime)
Sasquash

Rulk
Martian Manhunter
Wendigo
Apollo
Sasquash
Wonder Man
Korg
Namor
Thing
Nova prime




Wonder Whore

Seriously, do you think that's funny? I don't get the compulsion for some people to broadcast their misogyny as if it made anything but them look bad.

Uh oh.

are all of them at their prime or at their current case?.. coz rulk was kinda weakened now right? correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he lose some abilities, plus some of his strength?

I've heard people say as of late that he lost his ability to absorb all energy types and can now only do gamma energy. But I was reading his solo book before I dropped it and the only thing I read was that he doesn't do it for fear that he won't be able to return to his human form.

Originally posted by dmills
I've heard people say as of late that he lost his ability to absorb all energy types and can now only do gamma energy. But I was reading his solo book before I dropped it and the only thing I read was that he doesn't do it for fear that he won't be able to return to his human form.
He lost the ability after Omegex storyline IIRC.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He lost the ability after Omegex storyline IIRC.


I really don't think he needed to be neutered to that extinct the threat of not being able to return to human form even when face with certain death was enough to stop him from using them.I would have love for them to find some way for him to use them but only in the most extreme of circumstances.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I really don't think he needed to be neutered to that extinct the threat of not being able to return to human form even when face with certain death was enough to stop him from using them.I would have love for them to find some way for him to use them but only in the most extreme of circumstances.

I agree. What's crazy to me is that unlike say, The sentry, I actually dig the character. Why are they turning him into a Ben Grimm 2.0 idk.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Rulk
Martian Manhunter
Wendigo
Apollo
Sasquash
Wonder Man
Korg
Namor
Thing
Nova prime




Wonder Whore

How do you have Nova behind Thing and Korg when Nova no sold Korg and has physically phucked up Thing level opponents even in his old school incarnation? Or Korg above Namor. Wonder man above Korg when Korg knocked him the eff out? Wonder Woman last lol. Strange rankings man.

Originally posted by dmills
I agree. What's crazy to me is that unlike say, The sentry, I actually dig the character. Why are they turning him into a Ben Grimm 2.0 idk.

Thing is a good writer took over from Loeb made Rulk into a likable character he had an idea of how he wanted to write him what he wanted to do with him.He depowered him a bit from Loebs crazy shit but gave us a legit reason for it he seems to be taking it a bit to far now IMO.


Sentry on the other hand was a pile of shit that nobody knew what to do with.I don't like the guy but you can only blame the Marvel this guy had a lot of potential an if the writer cant bring that out it is his fault.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Thing is a good writer took over from Loeb made Rulk into a likable character he had an idea of how he wanted to write him what he wanted to do with him.He depowered him a bit from Loebs crazy shit but gave us a legit reason for it he seems to be taking it a bit to far now IMO.


Sentry on the other hand was a pile of shit that nobody knew what to do with.I don't like the guy but you can only blame the Marvel this guy had a lot of potential an if the writer cant bring that out it is his fault.

Parker is a good writer, I just don't like Rulk in the role of glass cannon. If he's a heavy hitter let him be a heavy hitter. Not just another token strongman.