Ok guys, sorry that this took so long. I'm not meaning to rush in and post at the last minute - Abhi, feel free to take your time in responding to this. If you agree, we could seek an extension. Two posts each feels pretty measly for the first championship battle, eh?
Anyways, such is life.
Smurph Post 2
Ok, I'm going to break apart the above quote war into what I see as the key points of the match so far:
b) Reaction Speeds
a. The Lasso
b. Other resistance
Defensively and offensively, those are what Cable brings to the match and thus gonna be my focus in order to drive home why he's the superior combatant in this battlezone.
Here I'm going to cover how Abhi has attempted to simply wave away Cable's defense and why, all in all, the argument he offers is pretty silly.
He argues that Cable would need to pit his shields against a Wonder Woman level brute to show that he has the telekinetic might to hold off a Wonder Woman level brute.
Fact of the matter is, a fully powered Cable is capable of constantly and effortlessly exerting the force required to keep Providence aloft. Literally, the man did this while he was sleeping. He also did this while he exerted the force required to smack Surfer away and break his board.
He also contained the energy from 240 closely grouped missiles and redirected it into the atmosphere. That energy has to have a lot of punch, and it's not unreasonable to think if he can contain all that, he can contain himself, even momentarily, from Diana's fists.
We also know he can make shields, and we can see that herald-level shields do in fact cause Diana momentary pause:
And with that scan, one of Abhi's own, this point already becomes useless.
See, the time that Diana takes to bust through a construct or shield is literally all that Cable will need. She can follow through with her punch, and his brain can already be in the middle of TK-striking her face with the same force it took to break Surfer's board- a feat that he accomplished easily, while multi-tasking in a gazillion other ways simultaneously.
Further: Diana having the capacity to break a shield or not isn't super relevant, because literally as soon as her fist passed through it, it would be repaired.
It's Cable talking about how he's going to piece together again the entire fleet at an atomic level as soon as they fly through it. Abhi would like to dismiss this due to it being 'speculation and a shared feat', but we can see Cable there directly talking about how he's going to perform that feat. Surfer, by the way, says nothing. The only speculation happening in those scans is that Surfer is in any way aiding the process. We know that Cable is doing this (which makes the claim that removing a virus from a person's body had taxed Cable look pretty silly in retrospect).
Cable, incidentally, is also constantly fighting back the techno-organic virus from overtaking his body in every single appearance he has in comics.
Here, Cable's telekinesis was disabled at the beginning of the issue.
Before the end of that single issue, the techno-organic virus in his body has rendered him utterly immobile, and no longer really even humanoid.
In Cable's entire run as a character, he is constantly performing minute, precise and extremely fast manipulation to keep the TO from spreading past his arm.
Again, he shows us that he's capable of performing this manipulation in a high speed battle across the earth to vast structures, repairing massive damage...
And you think that Wonder Woman is going to do any sort of real damage to a shield? To a featureless wall of energy?
Cable will literally repair it as her fingers strike its surface.
The natural reaction to this, and the only avenue Abhi has left, is to argue that Wonder Woman's speed will make a difference here.
Well, I've already shown you that Cable can intercept an attacker at high speeds (dismissed because of dialogue, according to Abhi- because dialogue is never unrealistic in comics, amirite?).
Further, however, I've shown you that Cable can perform vast atomic manipulation and repairs at high speeds while holding a conversation, levitating an island, fighting Surfer and performing vast telepathic feats (to be touched on soon!).
If that's not enough, there's also Cable redirecting a blast of energy as it is inches away from its target.
(In that annual, Sinister had temporarily restored Cable's powers and removed the TO virus from his body. The upgrade lasted less than an issue, but Cable was similarly impressive in it).
Finally, we know that Cable can do all this simultaneously while fighting Diana, just as he did more while fighting Surfer. So he can repair his shields, fend her off momentarily, and continue to smack her in the face with enough force to break Surfer's board.
Oh and before I move on, I guess I should respond to the red herring about Cable getting 'blitzed'
Originally posted by abhilegend
While we're at it, why don't we see how well cable does against a true blitz
By someone whose fastest speed while in his suit is 140 MPH.
Nice of you to edit out the rest of the scene. Let's view what happens in context, shall we?
So, with a little reading comprehension, we realize Cable actually goaded the speed-of-light attacker into attacking, as a part of his plan, remained completely unharmed and actually made the man look like a fool. All according to plan.
Meanwhile, he showed that he's thinking fast enough to time things according to the fraction of a second and can shrug off a speedblitz.
I'd also say that that feat shown on panel (which I'm guessing you must have read and subsequently avoided showing) is a hell of a lot faster than 140 MPH.
If you're going to misrepresent a feat, you should pull it from something that's not a couple issues behind the one I've been using this entire debate.
There's not too much to cover here.
Abhi likes to downplay Surfer's board's durability, pointing out that Terrax and Morg have done similar.
Well, Terrax has busted a planet with his axe.
And a strike from Morg's axe? Abhi dismissed it saying it only 'stunned' Surfer.
Tell me judges, is 'stunned' the word you would use to describe Surfer there?
If you'd like to imagine Cable telekinetically wielding either axe and continuously bashing Wonder Woman in the face with it, I think you might agree that she still wouldn't last very long.
Note that the only breakers of the board besides Cable that Abhi can name are other wielders of the Power Cosmic. Cable was the only one to do it with sheer, unquestionable force.
I also want to quickly touch on the fact that Cable's one of the best precision manipulators at the herald level. I've already gone over various feats with it, but consider that should Diana accomplish any sort of damage to Cable's person, he's already shown that he can a) manipulate and heal his organic body with TK and b) at full power, near-instantaneously perform massive atomic reparation to structures he's never seen before in his life
Healing himself while he smacks her in the face should be cake, considering he did similar to Surfer while make said reparations and levitating an entire island (the force of which, if I hadn't said it enough, would again be his to wield, and would again serve in the beatdown of Diana's domepiece).
However, if all this isn't ludicrous enough as is, smacking around Surfer, making atomic reparations and levitating Providence definitely wasn't all Cable was doing simultaneously. Which brings me to my next category...