Luke Cage and Thing vs Namor

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cdtm
Who wins?

zopzop
Horrendous spite vs Namor. Team 10/10.

cdtm
Originally posted by zopzop
Horrendous spite vs Namor. Team 10/10.

You think so?

Namor's pretty beastly at his best.. In the Hulk and Thor range physically, even beating Hulk a few times. Generally crushes Iron Man too.

zopzop
Originally posted by cdtm
You think so?

Namor's pretty beastly at his best.. In the Hulk and Thor range physically, even beating Hulk a few times. Generally crushes Iron Man too.

You haven't seen his recent appearances in the AvX crossover have you? stick out tongue

Tony Stark
Originally posted by cdtm
You think so?

Namor's pretty beastly at his best.. In the Hulk and Thor range physically, even beating Hulk a few times. Generally crushes Iron Man too.



THING just beat Namor twice adding Luke is overkill.

Dream Stuff
Team. Unless it's underwater (in which case, Thing apparently solos... because that makes sense).

nwg202
he throws luke in the water ( like the most recent uncanny x-men he trashed luke, slammed luke into she hulk and bfr'd them and punched it out with ben on land) beats luke. throws thing in the water no giant fish this time and they fight. He has flight and speed advantage, he can separate them.

Namor wins. some of these avx fights are .....unless luke and ben have gotten a significant upgrade.

KingD19
These AvX fights are clearly in favor of the Avengers and are throwing out lots of stuff previously. Luke Cage should not draw blood from Namor, especially under water. This is the guy who fought Blue Marvel(one of his highest feats to date) and didn't get trashed.

abhilegend
The avenging son.

Tony Stark
Originally posted by nwg202
he throws luke in the water ( like the most recent uncanny x-men he trashed luke, slammed luke into she hulk and bfr'd them and punched it out with ben on land) beats luke. throws thing in the water no giant fish this time and they fight. He has flight and speed advantage, he can separate them.

Namor wins. some of these avx fights are .....unless luke and ben have gotten a significant upgrade.


You're acting as if Namor was head and shoulders above Ben prior to these AvX fights. Their history against each doesn't equate to that. And it is clear that Ben is the now above Namor like it or not...

JakeTheBank
Well, if we want to use only AvX and simultaneously throw out everything which occurred before it as it "no longer counts", I guess the team does have it in the bag.

Hulkbuster1
Team completely mock,make a joke and annihilate him. Avx is current thus you got to leave the past behind you...anyways all this is making me hungry for some fish sticks beer

DTM
Unless theres alot of water handy, Cage and Thing are definately beating Namor. Waterless, I consider Thing and Namor to be rough equals, adding Cage into the mix is just icing on the cake.

Greysen93
Definitely Team

StiltmanFTW
No PIS (Bendispower Cage, Thing's heart), Namor stomps.

Endless Mike
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No PIS (Bendispower Cage, Thing's heart), Namor stomps.

This

YFZ 350
Team wins.

ankur29
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, if we want to use only AvX and simultaneously throw out everything which occurred before it as it "no longer counts", I guess the team does have it in the bag.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No PIS (Bendispower Cage, Thing's heart), Namor stomps.

dunno if it's a stomp but he should definitely take majority. Cage's punch should have zero effect,but then again cage did hurt nefaria,no?

KingD19
That Nefaria was pretty much nerfed.

cdtm
Danvers flat out overpowered him. Nothing about absorbing energy, she simply restrained him with her base strength.

So yeah, he was heavily nerfed.

leonidas
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, if we want to use only AvX and simultaneously throw out everything which occurred before it as it "no longer counts",

which, as i said in that other thread, is the most assinine kind of thinking i can imagine....

that said, on land ben has ALWAYS been a good match for namor. add luke here and team takes it. ben has given hulk a good fight any number of times, he's been said to be stronger than simon, has beaten a mind controlled simon and even went 1on1 for a prolong length of time with the asgardian destroyer. not to mention his showing against champion.

ben has some great feats out there. beating namor is certainly not this huge outlier feat. even underwater--while not the way i'd say the fight would go most of the time--it shouldn't be regarded as this uber low showing for namor. what keeps it from simply being a high feat for ben? and it's the height of stupidity to think namor has suddenly 'regressed' in the eyes of 'marvel'. it was one creative groups interpretation. maybe they just wanted to give ben a spotlight for once. in any event, we CERTAINLY do NOT throw aside all that has come before based on a most 'recent' depiction. that is both dumb and possibly disastrous. it is also likely against the forum rules.

Tony Stark
Originally posted by leonidas
which, as i said in that other thread, is the most assinine kind of thinking i can imagine....

that said, on land ben has ALWAYS been a good match for namor. add luke here and team takes it. ben has given hulk a good fight any number of times, he's been said to be stronger than simon, has beaten a mind controlled simon and even went 1on1 for a prolong length of time with the asgardian destroyer. not to mention his showing against champion.

ben has some great feats out there. beating namor is certainly not this huge outlier feat. even underwater--while not the way i'd say the fight would go most of the time--it shouldn't be regarded as this uber low showing for namor. what keeps it from simply being a high feat for ben? and it's the height of stupidity to think namor has suddenly 'regressed' in the eyes of 'marvel'. it was one creative groups interpretation. maybe they just wanted to give ben a spotlight for once. in any event, we CERTAINLY do NOT throw aside all that has come before based on a most 'recent' depiction. that is both dumb and possibly disastrous. it is also likely against the forum rules.


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Badabing
The ever lovin', blue eyed Thing wins. It's nice to see him looking like a champ in AvX.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by ankur29
Cage's punch should have zero effect,but then again cage did hurt nefaria,no?

And Ethan Edwards...

Tryco Slatterus
Namor should be able to beat both of they clowns. AVX is clearly PIS. Namor has defeated Ben with two blows in the past. To have him defeated in the water by Ben is just disrespectful to the character. To have Namor job like that is just a damned shame. Shame on Marvel and it's BS writers.

Damborgson
Namor

cdtm
Even with the Avengers movie out, what happened to all the X love? Why are the Avengers generally looking better than the Xmen?

Doesn't the Xmen have the most rabid fanbase of any Marvel property except Spidey?

zopzop
Originally posted by Damborgson
Namor
..dies. But seriously.....
Originally posted by Tryco Slatterus
Namor should be able to beat both of they clowns. AVX is clearly PIS. Namor has defeated Ben with two blows in the past. To have him defeated in the water by Ben is just disrespectful to the character. To have Namor job like that is just a damned shame. Shame on Marvel and it's BS writers.
The ONLY way this crap would make sense is if Unit did something to their (the X-Mens) powers. Remember it did encounter them BEFORE all this went down. Maybe it will be explained that Unit weakened them for some odd reason. Because otherwise............

namorsubby
Namor.

Damborgson
Originally posted by zopzop
..dies. But seriously.....



Only if we ignore his entire history. Losing to the thing and struggling with cage were just low showings.

Hyperion Prime
Namor and thing have always been about equal. Add in cage and team gets the majority.

h1a8
^True but Namor has been shown at least a tiny notch above Thing.
Also add in Namor's speed and mobility and flight.
Adding in Luke Cage makes this a very good fight that can go either way.

The OP did well in thinking of a fight so evenly matched.

Tryco Slatterus
Thing has never been equal to Namor. Only after Namor has been out of the water for a while did Thing have a chance to beat him. It's not even just about strength. With Namor's quickness and manueverability, he has always been a better fighter than Thing. How many times has Thing been taken out by the Hulk? Namor should be able to be Thing and Cage at the same time.

h1a8
Originally posted by Tryco Slatterus
Thing has never been equal to Namor. Only after Namor has been out of the water for a while did Thing have a chance to beat him. It's not even just about strength. With Namor's quickness and manueverability, he has always been a better fighter than Thing. How many times has Thing been taken out by the Hulk? Namor should be able to be Thing and Cage at the same time.

Well if we use current characters only then the team can win.
If we use current characters weighed 50% with the rest of their history then this fight can go either way.
If we use their history weighed equally then Namor wins.
If we use characters at their best showings then Namor wins.

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