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Scenario: Gotham City. 2 miles apart. Shikamaru is granted full knowledge of Gotham City (as much as Tim knows). Time is currently 5 pm and the sun will be setting at 7 pm. Robin is not allowed to simply wait it out until night time. They each have been granted extensive files on the other combatant and have 15 minutes of prep with which to strategize - no other type of prep work allowed.

Robin has been mentally fooled into thinking that Shikamaru has killed Batman, Nightwing, and Batgirl. He has all his standard equipment x 3. 3 x the explosives, gadgets, and weapons.

Shikamaru has been mentally fooled into thinking that Robin has killed Asuma, Choji, and Ino.


Who Wins?

I think the guy with magic powers has something of a significant edge here.

I mean, even though Shikamaru isn't the most physically focused of ninja, *every* ninja has superhuman speed, strength, and toughness, and Shikamaru can travel by doing 40-foot leaps between trees.

Throw in his actual specific power of freezing people in place with his shadow, or attacking with it, and it's a rather significant edge to the Nara.

I gave Robin extra resources to make up for that fact. Even still, I see this as a battle of strategy - both are known for being the smartest of the young guys, weakest of their peers (relative to their own peers), and yet the most dangerous. I think a case can be made for both characters which is why I thought it would be a good debate topic.

I would say Shikamaru is more powerful and even smarter than Tim it would only be a matter of time before Shikamaru traps or kills Robin

With prep, Shikamaru is taking dat ass.

Originally posted by Q99
I think the guy with magic powers has something of a significant edge here.

I mean, even though Shikamaru isn't the most physically focused of ninja, *every* ninja has superhuman speed, strength, and toughness, and Shikamaru can travel by doing 40-foot leaps between trees.

Throw in his actual specific power of freezing people in place with his shadow, or attacking with it, and it's a rather significant edge to the Nara.

Shikamaru is decent at prep, but the supernatural abilities and enhanced physical attributes give him the edge over Tim, IMO.

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one the shadow possession lands the fight is over, and as you can see above, shikamaru's shadow just has to intersect with robin's for that to happen

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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one the shadow possession lands the fight is over Both Hidan and Kakazu were S ranked missingnin. Shikamaru dealed with Hidan despite his gay hax ability. Shikamarus prep is better than Tims imo

Shikamaru should win more often than not IMO. Cool fight though.

Shikamaru ftw!

Shikamaru wins.

This might be more even if only Robin had prep and knowledge of the opponent.

Robin could always ask Superboy to take care of business.

That's what I'd do, but I'm a much better strategist than Tim.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Robin could always ask Superboy to take care of business. shikamaru can call naruto, who would probably have shown up anyway given his track record

Interesting that so many people feel that Shikamaru would win. I agree his strategic abilities are top notch but his energy stamina is shit.

Robin also gets 3 times his standard gear. That is a lot of gas, explosives, and general weaponry. I think Robin is being underestimated here.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Interesting that so many people feel that Shikamaru would win. I agree his strategic abilities are top notch but his energy stamina is shit.

Robin also gets 3 times his standard gear. That is a lot of gas, explosives, and general weaponry. I think Robin is being underestimated here.

I sort of agree, but it is Shikamaru's shadow abilities that make me think he will win more often than not.

He'd have to hit Shikamaru with it though, and while he's not the best ninja, he's a Chuunin and had to do a bit to get to that level. And that's not even factoring that he's one of, if not the best tactician in the Narutoverse on the good guys side.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Interesting that so many people feel that Shikamaru would win. I agree his strategic abilities are top notch but his energy stamina is shit.

Robin also gets 3 times his standard gear. That is a lot of gas, explosives, and general weaponry. I think Robin is being underestimated here. Remember Shikamaru has some gear himself on top of his superior stats, intellect, and Shadow Imitation.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Remember Shikamaru has some gear himself on top of his superior stats, intellect, and Shadow Imitation.

Shikamaru is basically a less skilled Robin(at least h2h wise) with superior stats and the shadow BS.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
shikamaru can call naruto, who would probably have shown up anyway given his track record I'm pretty sure that the dude who fought Superboy Prime on several occasions and lived to tell about it would ****ing stomp Naruto and the rest of his verse.

But yo das cheating.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Shikamaru is basically a less skilled Robin(at least h2h wise) with superior stats and the shadow BS.

Genin are superior to just about any street leveler in comics.

Not necessarily in h2h skill, which Shikamaru has never shown to excel at.

Not that it matters too much.

Shikamaru was my fav Naruto character. So he wins.

I'd give it to Shikamaru. The setting, Gotham, and Robin's propensity to hide in the shadows, is his downfall.

I can't see how Robin could feasibly win this.

shikamaru takes this like a bause

Shikimaru stomps. Robin needs one-sided prep to even have a chance.

Even prepping on the go, Shikimaru is wicked smart and capable.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Shikamaru was my fav Naruto character. So he wins.


I'm glad to see this thread results

Tim gets raped.

Could Batman take him in the same scenario?

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Could Batman take him in the same scenario? Nope

Bruce is no Hawkeye.