Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh then quote the fanboyish things I've said about batman.
Yeah, good luck convincing anybody that you like batman. Oh and I read both comics just fine. Like I said, anybody who doesn't attest to your theory is either a fanboy or doesn't read comics. What a broad generalization! Yeah that's right. Well I've already said that cap is stronger than batman, but unless its 4 or 5 times stronger than batman, its not enough for you, is it? Rest assured I certainly think that your one man council where wolverine beats validus in melee is more prestigious.
My opinion on the matter isn't something I've arbitrarily come to by happenstance. I read comics. What I mean by that is I spend the majority of free time reading and rereading comics, and when I'm not reading comics, I'm drawing and creating my own. I've read every canon appearance of virtually every street level comic book character, regardless of their renown, in Marvel / DC and most of the other major publishers. I don't think Captain America is better than Batman, I know he is better than Batman and I've worked hard and done countless hours of research so I can say that confidently. I don't hate Batman, and I never set out with the intent to prove that he wasn't as good as Cap, that's just what the evidence says. I stand by my stance and I welcome anyone to challenge it. What about you? Because I seem to recall you saying you have no interest in street level characters what-so-ever, and that you can't be bother to do a BZ challenge with me.
So yes I believe that there are only a few possible reasons for having a differing opinion than mine on this subject matter. A person can either be a fanboy who is actively ignoring evidence that doesn't support their bias opinion in order to maintain their confirmation bias, they haven't read enough comics on the subject matter to formulate an accurate and relevant opinion, or they are an idiot. Maybe that's arrogant, but I see it as confidence, confidence that two decades of reading predominately street level comics has afforded me with enough knowledge to accurate determine something as simple and elementary as how Captain America and Batman relate to one another physically and in martial prowess.
I don't think anyone on KMZ has said Wolverine could beat Pre ZH Validus.
Originally posted by Bentley
He is a Batman fan actually, at least in the sense that he has read a bunch of Batman comics and has a solid image of who Batman is and what he is capable of. I'd say he has read more Batman comics than most of the self-declared "Batman" fans around here.
That said, he's also known for blalantly hating Midnighter, so he can be wrong
Midnighter beat up Grifter, he brought it on himself.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Is the guy who's known as a massive... MASSIVE Wolverine fan and has argued vehemently for him in so many stupid outgunned threads, complaining about Batman being too mainstream for "fans" and telling people to read comics?
I've never argued for Wolverine in thread where he is outgunned. If I say Wolverine will a fight, it's because he will win it.
I'm not really seeing the parallel you are attempting to draw between Batman and Wolverine. Batman is universally loved on KMC, while Wolverine is universally reviled. So we get posters hyping Batman and low balling Wolverine. The only reason I post in all the Wolverine threads is to correct all the inaccurate statements and misconceptions. If other posters bothered to be impartial in the first place, I wouldn't need to correct them, then you wouldn't need to complain about me defending Wolverine, and we'd all save a lot of time.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, just look in any thor vs wolverine thread. The guy has said so many stupid things that even h1 would be hard pressed to match that. I think that we need a srank respect thread.
Everything I've said in the Thor vs Wolverine threads is %100 accurate. The reality is, those threads are all designed with a myriad of stipulations that push the fight heavily in Wolverine's favour. A ground Thor, limited to melee, and who can only use Mjolnir as a bashing device isn't taking the majority from Wolverine. Would Thor win a fight where he isn't neutered by the thread creator for the express purpose of giving Wolverine a chance at winning? Obviously.
It's not like I made those threads to make Wolverine look good. You got a problem take it up with the OP.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He could've read every batman comics ever for all I care. He still comes off as a hater and tries to pass it on fanboys.
The only way I come off as a hater is if the very notion that Batman isn't the absolute best at everything offends you to the core of your being. I'm simply a realist. The fact is Marvel's streets operate on a higher level than DCs. It's folly to pretend that DC = Marvel, and that everything is identical for some naive sense of bipartisan ship. What are the odds of that being right? Marvel has more street level characters, many of which have powers, and their street level characters aren't all intrinsically tied to one property like DC. DC's street level scene is essentially Batman and Batman proteges, and Green Arrow... and every character spends their time in the shadow of Batman. Marvel doesn't do that. I think it's humorous that most Batman fans have no trouble acknowledging that Cassandra Cain could take the majority from Bruce in h2h... yet Daredevil who has the same abilities and better stats... is out of his league. Yeah, I'm the one blinded by party allegiances?
Originally posted by remender
srankmissingnin sounds very similiar to this guy on Comicvine who was notorious for fan wanking Marvel and constantly downplaying DC. if he's who I think he is, he actually got owned by Comicvine's moderator Buckshot on several threads relating to the Midnighter.
I've read every volume of Captain America and Daredevil and neither is as skilled as Batman is.
I've spoken to 3 people who are masters of Daredevil lore and have read every single appearance of the character, and they pretty much agreed. One of the is a moderator on Comicvine named Vance Astro, who has over 40,000 points on the Daredevil wiki page on the site.
Daredevil and Captain America have had several fights and Cap has never been able to get a desicive victory over him, and in their last fight Daredevil completely chumped Captain America.
At the very best he can take a 5/10 against Matt
Batman would easily replicate the same thing if not outperform in the same scenario. For all the physical feats Cap has it hasn't helped him against characters he physically outclasses. Batman would take 5/10 at least against Cap if not greater.
I'm surprised people don't simple ignore srank with his constant lulz marvel is awesome and dc is the sux bias that he tries to hide and is too stupid to realize that people see through his pro marvel and anti dc hogwash.
Back again Wang? Awesome we missed your patented brand of "insight." Anyway you've already been banned again, so this response is solely for the benefit of everyone else in this thread who might not be familiar with your bs.
The discussion between myself and Buckshot is open for anyone to see. Merely getting the last post because he waited two weeks for me to stop posting on Comicvine before offering a rebuttal doesn't constitute an "owning," especially when I was embarrassing him the entire time and when he finally bother to post it was nothing but a rehash of points I had already addressed. That the internet equivalent of waiting until someone leaves the room and then whispering a come back under your breath and declaring yourself the winner of the argument.
Captain America and Daredevil have never had a real fight. One of them is always mind controlled, brain washed or drugged and hallucinating. The two times Captain America was the one who was drugged, Daredevil was easily worked over (DD was even knocked out with one punch). The two times Daredevil was the one not in his right mind, Captain America easily stalemated him and arguable had the advantage. DD got the better of Cap briefly when he ambushed the Avengers in the dark,but he as never "chumped" Cap. Their most recent fight, where you allege that Daredevil "chumped" Captain America amounted to nothing, Cap wanted to see if DD was back to normal after Shadow Land, DD dodged Cap a couple times, Cap lassoed Matt's leg, they stopped fighting and talked. Owned?
Captain America has never gone all out on Daredevil while in his right mind. If the two of them ever had a read drag out fight were both parties were actively trying to put the other one down as quickly as possible Captain America would win. Easily.
Also isn't Vance Astro the same idiot who says Shang-Chi as never done anything?
