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Nite Owl from Watchmen and Captain America from The Avengers.

Setting: Reliant Stadium, Houston, Texas, night time. All of the stadium lights are on.

Both are at opposite ends of the football field in the end zones.

Both have all of their gear seen in the films. The Owl Ship is not present.

1) Hand to hand only. Victory by KO.

2) All weapons. Anything goes,. To the death.

Remember that thing that Will Smith does to those prisoners in Hancock...?

Ummmm The Captain does something simliar to Nite Owl here, most likely...

I've actually never seen Hancock.

Ahh just as well I didn't spoil the joke for you then, for when you do get a chance to see it...

Cap took Mjolnir and Thor was sent flying backward.. so doubtful any blows from Nite Owl will be effective..

besides Cap throws the shield towards the goalpost which ricochets off of it and KO's Nite Owl upside the head for the KO


to make this interesting and funny Nite Owl puts a bounty on Cap by hiring former Texan LB Mario Williams to try to take him out for a few extra dollars.. Cap sees this and as Williams attempts to sack Cap, Cap then leapfrogs over him and whacks him upside the head, thus cracking Mario's helmet and rendering him unconscious.. Nite Owl seeing this begs Roger Goodell to let the former Saints(both current and former) who have been fined and suspended to try stop Cap from giving him a beatdown..

I think Nite Owl definitely has the skill advantage as far as martial arts go. However, stat-wise Cap should be well above him but not quite on Veidt's level.

Captain America has insane durability in the film as well. He was blasted by one of the Chitauri rifles, was blasted out of what looked to be atleast a 3-story building, took hits from an Asgardian, etc. Not to mention that Cap is alot more agile than Dan is ever depicted to be.

I think Nite Owl is closer to the level of Black Widow than Captain America. Give Cap the shield and Dan doesn't really stand that much of a chance.

Nite Owl beats the everloving shit outta Cap, but does little damage and Cap eventually breaks Daniel's face.


Make it Ozy vs Cap.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Cap took Mjolnir and Thor was sent flying backward.. so doubtful any blows from Nite Owl will be effective.. to be more accurate, Cap's shield took Mjolnir... Cap's stats had very little to do with it. Given the overwhelming gap in skill, it's not unreasonable to assume Daniel could separate Cap from his shield.

it's a moot point tho, 'cause Cap can take Daniel's hits.

I'm going with Nite Owl wins, cos all you fat people need a win for once. <3

Yeah Nite Owl has way more skill but i just dont think he can overcome Caps stats.

With all wepons maybe since he had that wall full of weapons in his basement. One of them would probably put Cap down

...if it were able to get past the shield.

Um, why exactly is Nite Owl more skilled again?

did you see the two movies? Cap displayed very little MA skill and got by in both movies he appeared in on his superhuman stats.

Yeah if he werent superhuman or peak human (im not sure which one the movie version is) then he would have been killed long ago

Cap...everytime

Originally posted by marwash22
did you see the two movies? Cap displayed very little MA skill and got by in both movies he appeared in on his superhuman stats.

And this doesn't describe Nite Owl how?

Originally posted by NemeBro
And this doesn't describe Nite Owl how? huh? are you confusing Daniel for Ozy? Daniel's stats are human level, he knows martial arts and when he punches someone they feel it and go down in a normal fashion... when Cap punches someone, they go flying 20 feet.

Yeah Nite Owl was just a very skilled fighter. When he fought he broke bones but nothing he did was crazy like how Cap fights

Originally posted by NemeBro
Um, why exactly is Nite Owl more skilled again? Really? Did you not see the prison scene or the alley fight with the Top Knots. He's obviously above Batman's stats(maybe not quite Rogers' level) and alot more skilled in fighting than Captain America.

Originally posted by marwash22
Daniel's stats are human level No, they're not.

Even ****ing Laurie could snap a grown man's arm and make the bone come out with one hand.

All of the "human" characters in Watchmen were superhuman to varying degrees, with Ozymandias being the most superhuman, followed by Comedian.

What do you all think makes a fighter "skilled"? And what makes Captain America so unskilled?

Yeah, everyone in Watchmen had some level of superhuman strength.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, they're not.

Even ****ing Laurie could snap a grown man's arm and make the bone come out with one hand.

All of the "human" characters in Watchmen were superhuman to varying degrees, with Ozymandias being the most superhuman, followed by Comedian.

What do you all think makes a fighter "skilled"? And what makes Captain America so unskilled?


OH SNAP! I agree with Nemebro, for once.






But, yes, Night Owl was kicking prisoners 20 feet down halls n'sh*t.



H2H, Night Owl is much better than Cap. Their strength is the same. I would give a slight edge to Cap on durability. Brains......maybe Night Owl.


Heart is important and Cap has much more than Night Owl. Night Owl gives up multiple times. Cap would go going even if here were just a pile of bones.

And speed really.

Rorschach evading machine-gun fire (He dodged their aim, but that is still above IRL peak human running speed).

Rorschach also sort of broke through that glass in the cafeteria with his fist.

Using weapons, it'd be funny if Nite Owl tries that laser, and Cap's shield bounces it back at him.

This isn't comic Steve, it's movie Steve and in two movies, Cap has displayed absolutely zero martial arts skill. He punched a heavy bag a few times which suggests he has limited training in boxing, but for the most part all he has done thus far is shoulder rush people, throw his shield and punch really hard.

Please do point out where we are explicitly shown Nite-Owl having martial arts training. Captain America on the other hand is military-trained.

Captain America should have a signifigant edge in durability IMO. He was sent out of a three story window by an explosion and crushed a car on his landing. He got back up and continued fighting. He should also be faster judging by running down a car on foot and swimming after a sub. He proceeded to punch the **** through a submarine window. IMO he is also stronger, having better overall showings.

And like dadudemon said, in terms of willpower, it isn't even close. Captain America's spirit is unbreakable.

Originally posted by marwash22
Nite Owl beats the everloving shit outta Cap, but does little damage and Cap eventually breaks Daniel's face.


Make it Ozy vs Cap. lol, I have never argued Daniel actually winning this fight.