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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147928/Is-Batman-gay-Major-DC-Comics-character-come-closet.html

Anybody hear about this?

we've been going on about it in the other thread, but in short, yes lol

Superman Superman Superman Superman Superman

Or

Aquaman Aquaman Aquaman Aquaman Aquaman



Yeah... Aquaman sounds like he'd fit in perfect with the world of sodomy and frills.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Superman Superman Superman Superman Superman

Or

Aquaman Aquaman Aquaman Aquaman Aquaman



Yeah... Aquaman sounds like he'd fit in perfect with the world of sodomy and frills.

lol. Sure.

Hope it is Doomsday!

it's Lex. obviously.

It's Lucifer Morningstar.

Because homosexuality is of the devil, you know

(I kid, I kid)

Originally posted by marwash22
it's Lex. obviously.

Given his "relationship" with Superman, that would be... Icky.

Tim Drake comes out as a trans, introducing the New 52 Stephanie Brown.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Tim Drake comes out as a trans, introducing the New 52 Stephanie Brown.

For once we agree.

It's Geoff Johns, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's Geoff Johns DiDio, imo.

mmm

It's probably Vibe. The character hasn't made an appearance yet.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
It's probably Vibe. The character hasn't made an appearance yet.

Vibe isn't really iconic, though.

I kinda doubt they'd make it a villain, but that would be an interesting choice at least.

Current best guess is that it's any of the JSA - Mr. Terrific, maybe?

racist.

Ha. Watch it be Cyborg.

Booting a pre-existing JLA member to make room for a black, recently gay one.

DC, you so diverse.

said already its superman, however since its an "iconic" character


its Alfred Pennyworth

given his history with women and his apropos name, it's probably Nightwing.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Tim Drake comes out as a trans, introducing the New 52 Stephanie Brown.

I guess this is probably related to Marvel announcing/getting media attention for Northstar's proposal to whats-his-face

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/marvel-comics-hosts-first-gay-wedding-in-astonishing-x-men-20120522

Funny that both companies attribute the developments to the changing mindset of readers. I like the part in the OP link where DC compares Didio's 'evolving mindset' to Obama's.

lol, comics...

I love how the general media acts like they give a shit about comics outside of toys and movies.

Originally posted by jalek moye
I love how the general media acts like they give a shit about comics outside of toys and movies.

Same shit happen when they did that thing with Batwoman making her a lesbian, that too made its way into the newspapers.

I love Batwoman comics. It might be because of all the complications and being a lesbian that enticed me.

Been following the new "Supergirl" comic, its very slow pace compared to "Superman" and she has not adapted to Earth culture, but she made a friend with an Irish girl who is being chase by her father (ancestory of the Banshee).

Banshee was a old emeny of Super family and maybe that reign is over. Hopefully the announcement a gay couple, might be Banshee and Super Girl. This way Supergirl has someone to reply on regarding Earth and she an alien, XD

Are they at least treating the whole Irish thing with respect, or is she just a stereotype?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Are they at least treating the whole Irish thing with respect, or is she just a stereotype?

Well she speaks in the stereotypical accent...

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well she speaks in the stereotypical accent...

...well balls to that, then.

I'm hoping that the use of 'he' is a fakeout and it Wonder Woman. Because people have been waiting for DC to come out and say that Wondie has teh sex with wimens for a while.

But I guess they already have a 'prominent' lesbian character in Batwoman. mmm

For the men, my bets on Cyborg. From what I've heard, it can't be Aquaman because he's married, and Batman had sex with Catwoman so they're still a thing. Superman's still going after Lois. And Hal and Flash are both in relationships. Correct me if I'm wrong though.


Also that idiot group One Million Moms has complained about this, shocker.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk68/selynnah/543033_461828683846590_562472803_n.jpg

But is it definitely a superhero/villain? Don't they just say prominent? Maybe Jimmy... or Lois - take that Superman!

Really though, it sounds like a terrible idea. Like Didio gave up trying to make a new gay character compelling and decided to go the easy way out. And IMO that recent Northstar stuff has just been horrible, unreadable, like some sort of bad cliched joke - they have got to do better than that.

I wanna know what they will do to make this character gay? I mean since they are making an already existing character openly gay how will they establish it? change the way they dress? that would feel forced to me. Make them walk and talk more stereotypical? That would also be dumb because not all homosexuals are like that. Maybe they would give them a boyfriend/girlfriend? That would also be stupid because they would obviously be doing it to make it known the character is gay and it would be kinda lame having someone pop up out of no where. I feel they will announce them being homosexual and then maybe make a couple small references in the books but not change the character at all. That imo would be dumb because it would show that DC was only doing it to "grab" that demographic and they don't actually care.........but then again if they actually cared they would have made and developed a new character.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm hoping that the use of 'he' is a fakeout and it Wonder Woman. Because people have been waiting for DC to come out and say that Wondie has teh sex with wimens for a while.

But I guess they already have a 'prominent' lesbian character in Batwoman. mmm

For the men, my bets on Cyborg. From what I've heard, it can't be Aquaman because he's married, and Batman had sex with Catwoman so they're still a thing. Superman's still going after Lois. And Hal and Flash are both in relationships. Correct me if I'm wrong though.


Also that idiot group One Million Moms has complained about this, shocker.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk68/selynnah/543033_461828683846590_562472803_n.jpg

Superman isn't chasing Lois so much, but Morrison did flat out say that he would have girlfriends.

Lol, if they make Superman gay I think all Million Moms heads would explode simultaneously.

DC has done gay before - Obsidian, the two girls from Outsiders (Grace and Thunder), etc.

I don't see the need to re-create a character. Just push a new character, but don't make being gay their main focus. I think it should just be a fact about them - something that gets focused on constantly, but never so much in the spotlight that it defines them.

I gotta say though sometimes its like the media is on a mission to create as many gay black people as possible. *sigh*

Maybe they will actually be making a character bi instead of gay

I want a gay black muslim dude. Give me this, just to pissed off stucked up people.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
DC has done gay before - Obsidian, the two girls from Outsiders (Grace and Thunder), etc.

I don't see the need to re-create a character. Just push a new character, but don't make being gay their main focus. I think it should just be a fact about them - something that gets focused on constantly, but never so much in the spotlight that it defines them.

i thought Grace was Bi... Or are we counting that?

Exactly though; make a new character that's well written and interesting... That also happens to be gay.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i thought Grace was Bi... Or are we counting that?

Exactly though; make a new character that's well written and interesting... That also happens to be gay.

Wouldn't get them the publicity, which all they really want. To get new coverage and a high five from the gay community.

I posted about this on Facebook saying "I hope it's not The Flash"

My gay friend responded saying "You wouldn't like The Flash if he were gay? I thought better of you..."

I wanted to strangle that dyke's neck.

You seem like a cool, well-balanced guy. Lets be friends.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=60524

Guess rumors do point to Alan Scott as some posters previously thought.

Not sure how I feel about that, either.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=60524

Guess rumors do point to Alan Scott as some posters previously thought.

Not sure how I feel about that, either.

I'm amazed. Though what's he like in the Earth 2 book? Is he still the whole "elder statesman" thing?

Supposedly, Alan will be the biggest hero in Earth-2.

I've only really read one Jsa run, and a solomon grundy mini featuring him so I'm not that familiar with Alan. Is he really considered Iconic? I mean I get he's the first lantern but I always thought Hal was the iconic lantern character.

He would be considered iconic in terms of in-universe for DC Comics, but he's not mainstream.

Alan was more or less the "Superman" of his generation in terms of the JSA's history.

its so stupid but I wont love the JSA any less.

Originally posted by Existere
I kinda doubt they'd make it a villain, but that would be an interesting choice at least.

Current best guess is that it's any of the JSA - Mr. Terrific, maybe?

Mr. Terrific currently has the hottest woman in comics as a girlfriend, doesn't he? If he goes from Power Girl to being gay...that's a real slam against her!

I thought Alan Scott had a wife

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I thought Alan Scott had a wife

He did.

Alan's a character whose awesome is very un-linked to his sexuality or sexual orientation.

Hopefully it's just handled with some common sense and good taste.

"green lantern alan scott one weakness was wood,i bet his pleased about that now. "

haha wow

I just don't like the idea of changing a character's established sexual orientation, reminds me too much of the plague of yaoi fangirls who write fanfiction where straight characters are all gay for no reason.

Well, is it Alan Scott from Earth 2 that is gay or "our" universe?

That makes a world of difference (literally)

Also, people do find out later in life that they're gay. It does happen. I don't know if I can so easily dismiss it anyway.

Originally posted by Existere
Alan's a character whose awesome is very un-linked to his sexuality or sexual orientation.

Hopefully it's just handled with some common sense and good taste.

Its confirmed now
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=38946

Hmmm, didn't old man Alan had a family and a loving wife?

I still wanted a Supergirl x Banshee coupling... damn you DC!

A gay dude can have a family though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its confirmed now
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=38946

I really hope Robinson is kidding when he says that the biggest reason for making Alan gay was that he already had a gay son.

What, it runs in the family now?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=60524

Guess rumors do point to Alan Scott as some posters previously thought.

Not sure how I feel about that, either. Alan will make gay look straight.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What, it runs in the family now? It's a disease, apparently.

That must be why Darkseid is trying to eradicate Earth 2. He doesn't want the gay-virus spreading to his dimension... mmm

Originally posted by -Pr-
I really hope Robinson is kidding when he says that the biggest reason for making Alan gay was that he already had a gay son.

What, it runs in the family now? That was kind of a strange comment.

It was made in the same breath as saying that Obsidian isn't gonna be around though, so it sounded to me like "This is the only interesting part of the character, let's just tack it on to Alan".

Wutevs.

I know a link to these scans was already posted, but I just saw them and frankly, I was disgusted:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/12045520_alangay1.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/12045521_alangay2.jpg

Alan comes off like a horny twink. ermm

Yeah, it's not good.

Damn, Robinson's star has fallen.

Maybe they should have a gay writer write a gay character... to get it right without stereotyping

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Maybe they should have a fabulously gay writer write a fabulously gay character... to get it right without stereotyping

Fixed.

So, he is still basically vulnerable to wood?

Originally posted by biensalsa
So, he is still basically vulnerable to wood?

hysterical

Damn, dude.

Originally posted by biensalsa
So, he is still basically vulnerable to wood? It can still penetrate him. That's for sure.

Why hasn't Alex Ross freaked out yet? He's such a touchy fanboy with heroes from the Golden & Silver Age.

I am disappointed they didn't out Wonder Woman.


Oh well, there'll always be the porn.....

so does this mean Jade and Obsidian will never happen?.....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Well, is it Alan Scott from Earth 2 that is gay or "our" universe?

That makes a world of difference (literally)

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
so does this mean Jade and Obsidian will never happen?.....

Do they even exist in the DCnU?

Maybe he shouldn't become a GL but join the Star Sapphires.

Introducing...

GAY LANTERN!

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/167/b/3/the_gay_lantern_by_olracstribe-d3j1zj0.png

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Do they even exist in the DCnU?

I'm pretty sure they haven't been introduced yet but since Blackest Night still seems to be cannon I would be hard pressed to say Jade doesn't exist.....

with the whole jade coming back from the dead and fighting kyle.....

I'm not too crazy about DC trying to look so progressive, it comes off forced, especially since they're taking an established character and trying to change his sexual orientation. However, since this is a completely fresh reboot and universe and they're completely reintroducing the character, I really don't see what the big deal is. Hopefully Jade and Obsidian are reintroduced in some capacity, but that's my only real feasible qualm. A lot of people have really shown their homophobia across the interwebs about this though.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
so does this mean Jade and Obsidian will never happen?.....

Not necessarily, they could be adopted, the result of Guy having a previous hetero relationship which happens sometimes, or reintroduced in an entirely new way.

Robinson is a hack.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank


Robinson is a hack.

Not a fan of most of his recent work either.

Originally posted by Sanford.
A lot of people have really shown their homophobia across the interwebs about this though.




Pretty much, I'm not a fan of just up and decided to change a character's sexuality but some of the ways people are reacting is pretty offputting.

Originally posted by jalek moye
I'm not a fan of just up and decided to change a character's sexuality but some of the ways people are reacting is pretty offputting.

Originally posted by Galan007
I know a link to these scans was already posted, but I just saw them and frankly, I was disgusted:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/12045520_alangay1.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/12045521_alangay2.jpg

Alan comes off like a horny twink. ermm


I hope he spends the whole run gropping young boys.

The whole five issues of that run

I've got a lot to say about this but one thing I was gonna say is that if this is about moving with the times then why have DC decided to make everybody younger? Don't we have an increasingly older population and isn't that ageism? In particluar Jay Garrick used to be old and I think it kinda made him interesting.

There isn't anything inherently wrong with making Alan Scott gay and they have to find a way in which different groups within society get representation. But to be quite honest this seems to be more about being contraversial and selling comics. Based on what they did to Mr Terrific and how the sales went I have a feeling they're not going to do this well.

On a quick note when Captain America was replaced by Patrick Walker lots of people complained about it. Patick Walker looks essentially just like Steve Rogers. When people complain about changing race, or sexual orientation it's not always because they're prejuidiced it's because people don't like change and that doesn't make you a bad person that makes you human. Bare in mind people having been reading about comic characters since they were children and into adulthold. To an extent people kinda 'fall in love' with characters and as it was stated in the movie Unbreakable superheros are just the modern equivalent of gods. So it's understandable that people get upset when a character is changed especially when something was working really well already.

I have no problem with it. It's not like he's the original Alan or anything. Earth 2 so far is good, so...

Originally posted by biensalsa
So, he is still basically vulnerable to wood?

That was clever.

Wow... those scans are really kind of off putting seeing Alan behaving like that. Talk about another bad cliche gay character with a horribly forced script. Robinson really is a just a hack these days.

And it feels kind of cheap and dirty doing that to a character, changing his sexuality just to try to make the comic "progressive" and controversial and desperately attempt to grab some news time. I mean if they took a gay character and altered him or rebooted him as straight there would be all kinds of complaints about how that was part of what he was and "you can't just change that". I wonder what the late creator of Green Lantern Alan would think of a scene like that - nice respect for someone's work, DC.

I'd be interested to see if any comic writer out there was up to the challenge of coming up with an entirely new gay male superhero and making him popular, or at least just interesting and readable.

Beh, who cares about Alan being gay? The problem as someone has mentioned is that Alan was old, he was mature, that kind of brought some elegance to the character. I know that Alan was supposed to be young back in the day, but the changes certainly take away from the established character. New Alan can be done correctly, but it still feels like being cheated out of old Alan.

Another gay character?
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/06/alan-scott-wont-be-the-only-gay-character-in-earth-2/

I have no problem with gay characters in comics. I have no problem with making Alan Scott gay. What I do have a problem with is Robinson's terrible reasoning behind it which makes the whole thing come off as cheap.

Really? Alan's younger in Earth-2, which means Obsidian obviously can't be used because he's Alan's son, so the logical decision is "Hey, let's make Alan gay!"? That is, frankly, idiotic beyond belief. Robinson then turns around and says that Alan will still be that heroic, charismatic, noble man whom we all know and that his sexuality is incidental. How does that work when you literally just decided to make him gay because A.) you needed a gay character for diversity's sake (which isn't bad in of itself) and B.) Obsidian can't be used, so the decision was may as well make Alan himself gay?

I think that when a character's identity is changed to reflect shifting attitudes/diversity/social representation, people fear that their character will be reduced to that change.

I haven't read the whole issue introducing Alan or his changed orientation, but the bits that I have read didn't really seem to support some of the ways that people are freaking out about this.

The interview was pretty dumb though.

I'm actually a little annoyed by this. When I had originally thought about them changing Alan (still don't know how I came to that conclusion, it was just a random thought in my head), I thought they were going to make him one of those older, classy but still a little fabulous gay guys.

Not what was in the comic, which honestly bums me out a little...

It's the fact that they made him younger, methinks. It is easier to accept a male homosexual, for reasons that we won't describe because they become creepily pedophilic, but we're just wired to see old men in a different eye that young men.

Social conventions? Instinct? No idea.

It also helps that Alan was a very classy character and I could see him work somewhat, probably that's what most people on DC thought when the change was suggested.

Perhaps they will improve and become more matter of fact about it, like how they handled Batwoman's sexuality. Those scans are just a level below Marvel's MAX series of Rawhide Kid.

Anyone think this series with Alan gonna get cancel early?

Batwoman = pure gold!

Originally posted by vansonbee


Batwoman = pure gold!

Thanks to J.H. Williams III. His art is the best right now; Bill Sienkiewicz meets Paul Gulacy meets Howard Chaykin.