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Who takes this battle of epic proportions?

Both are blood lusted, and plutonian is fully aware of his powers.

He's definatly to fast for thanos. How great are his reality warping powers?

Originally posted by TheMask
He's definatly to fast for thanos. How great are his reality warping powers? Too much for Thanos.

Even his strength is probably higher than Thanos.

Plotonian is the original one fully powered intact before he was scattered and made supermen across the multiverse...thanos will finally be reunited with death.

The Plutonian's essence is what melded with the DC writers of superman.


So I suppose the Plutonian actually transcended the Comic reality, and entered our reality.

Originally posted by Board Walker
The Plutonian's essence is what melded with the DC writers of superman.


So I suppose the Plutonian actually transcended the Comic reality, and entered our reality. Check under your bed.

A fragment became the idea of Superman, another for Hyperion, Majestic, Gladiator, Wonder Man and on and on.

And, somewhere else out there, fragments become living versions of these characters, or beings that we can 't even imagine.

It was definitely a revolutionary idea. Turning the book into a "prequel" to real events, as well as allowing it to be a prequel to stories that could still be to come.

Tricky.

Shouldnt have been cancelled. Writer said that he just didnt have time for the characters, but the story is great.

To my understanding of Plutonian, he is above trans and herald levels, he could be on sky father level. Plutonian is on another level than Thanos period, Thanos will give him hell but he wont put Plutonain down, only thing that will keep Thanos in the fight is his curse due to Death, other than that Plutonian wins the vast majority, but I wouldnt count out Thanos!!!

And this is coming from a Thanos fan not fan boy, Plutonian is what Sentry should have been!!!

Originally posted by Horrificus
A fragment became the idea of Superman, another for Hyperion, Majestic, Gladiator, Wonder Man and on and on.

And, somewhere else out there, fragments become living versions of these characters, or beings that we can 't even imagine.

It was definitely a revolutionary idea. Turning the book into a "prequel" to real events, as well as allowing it to be a prequel to stories that could still be to come.

Tricky.

It is interesting, that is fragmentation trascended comics and entered our world. It is what put the idea of "superman" into the writers, so yes the plutonian's fragments is what created every "superman" that came into existance. He is the source of heroes/villains alike.

Sort of interesting how the Plutonian influenced our world which than wrote comics, like an infinite loop.

Originally posted by the Darkone
To my understanding of Plutonian, he is above trans and herald levels, he could be on sky father level. Plutonian is on another level than Thanos period, Thanos will give him hell but he wont put Plutonain down, only thing that will keep Thanos in the fight is his curse due to Death, other than that Plutonian wins the vast majority, but I wouldnt count out Thanos!!!

And this is coming from a Thanos fan not fan boy, Plutonian is what Sentry should have been!!!

Basically, and Plutonian doesn't have to kill him to wain. He has a bunch of ways to just take him down.

Originally posted by Board Walker
It is interesting, that is fragmentation trascended comics and entered our world. It is what put the idea of "superman" into the writers, so yes the plutonian's fragments is what created every "superman" that came into existance. He is the source of heroes/villains alike.

Sort of interesting how the Plutonian influenced our world which than wrote comics, like an infinite loop.

Too bad it's all just a science experiment created by All Star Superman

Originally posted by Board Walker
It is interesting, that is fragmentation trascended comics and entered our world. It is what put the idea of "superman" into the writers, so yes the plutonian's fragments is what created every "superman" that came into existance. He is the source of heroes/villains alike.

Sort of interesting how the Plutonian influenced our world which than wrote comics, like an infinite loop. Yeah. Leading to his own fictional creation.

Where's quanchi ?

Dont call on him. This thread will get closed down cause they think its a bait thread. WHICH ITS NOT.

Plutonian.

Originally posted by TheMask
Dont call on him. This thread will get closed down cause they think its a bait thread. WHICH ITS NOT.

His presence makes these threads all the more entertaining .

Plutonian.

Originally posted by TheMask
He's definatly to fast for thanos. How great are his reality warping powers?

Not that great.

He was evolving, but never displayed any real combat feats. Even at the end of the story, he still fought like a brick.

Thanos.

How would Thanos put him down?

Also know that Plutonian in this fight is not the one in comics. It was stated that he is a very high level reality warper (possibly Celestial level) but doesn't know this and thinks he just have superman level powers. The OP states he is FULLY aware of his powers.

Mind-whammy, winning a war of attrition due to his freakish durability, incredible damage output, etc.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Mind-whammy, winning a war of attrition due to his freakish durability, incredible damage output, etc.

So a fully aware Plutonian is weak to TP?
Also durability doesn't win for you, it prevents you from losing.
So Thanos can harm a fully aware Plutonian?

Originally posted by h1a8
How would Thanos put him down?

Also know that Plutonian in this fight is not the one in comics. It was stated that he is a very high level reality warper (possibly Celestial level) but doesn't know this and thinks he just have superman level powers. The OP states he is FULLY aware of his powers.

Being aware of his powers, doesn't mean he 's mastered them.

He was fully aware of his powers in the comic, and the best he learned to do was scan someones brain to see different points along their timeline.

Originally posted by cdtm
Being aware of his powers, doesn't mean he 's mastered them.

He was fully aware of his powers in the comic, and the best he learned to do was scan someones brain to see different points along their timeline.

No he wasn't fully aware of his powers and still was above Superman. He did all those things in comics not knowing what he is truly capable of.

Also
Here is just some things a non aware Plutonian (or what he does subconsciously without knowing) can do:

- Matter Manipulation-self explanatory
-Superman level powers-subconsciously has the physically, including speed, and powers (possibly to a greater extent).
- Weaponized use of Quantum Entanglement
- Psychic Abilities (has resistance against TP and could mind rape)
- Ability to Nullify Fundamental Forces of Nature-(awesome)
- Intangibility- self explanatory
-Probability Changing -can subconsciously change probabilities of things.
-Reality Warping-can subconsciously redefine reality
-Entropy-Can manipulate and reverse entropy
-Time manipulation-can travel through time and see through time (past, present, and future)

Superman would beat Plutonian.

True story.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Superman would beat Plutonian.

True story. I agree. But I doubt a fully aware Plutonian.

Plutonian never reached the apex of his ability. Making topics like these redundant.

Originally posted by "Id"
Plutonian never reached the apex of his ability. Making topics like these redundant.

I agree. His true potential can only be speculated intelligently.
If he can, without trying, be a Superman level being then imagine what he can be with trying. We may never know.

Thanos mindrapes for the win.

Originally posted by Board Walker
The Plutonian's essence is what melded with the DC writers of superman.


So I suppose the Plutonian actually transcended the Comic reality, and entered our reality.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/iceman2456/picard-face-palm.gif

Originally posted by Bentley
Thanos mindrapes for the win. This

Thanos wins

Originally posted by h1a8
No he wasn't fully aware of his powers and still was above Superman. He did all those things in comics not knowing what he is truly capable of.

Also
Here is just some things a non aware Plutonian (or what he does subconsciously without knowing) can do:

- Matter Manipulation-self explanatory
-Superman level powers-subconsciously has the physically, including speed, and powers (possibly to a greater extent).
- Weaponized use of Quantum Entanglement
- Psychic Abilities (has resistance against TP and could mind rape)
- Ability to Nullify Fundamental Forces of Nature-(awesome)
- Intangibility- self explanatory
-Probability Changing -can subconsciously change probabilities of things.
-Reality Warping-can subconsciously redefine reality
-Entropy-Can manipulate and reverse entropy
-Time manipulation-can travel through time and see through time (past, present, and future) That.
How's it going N?

Time manipulation? Seeing through time probably but not time manipulation.

Otherwise he would've been able to escape being dumped in the end of time/existence by his parents under hi own powers.

Modeus theories =/= fact

Originally posted by iceman24567
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/iceman2456/picard-face-palm.gif That's what all people who think Plutonian wins think.

Every last one of them

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Time manipulation? Seeing through time probably but not time manipulation.

Otherwise he would've been able to escape being dumped in the end of time/existence by his parents under hi own powers.

Modeus theories =/= fact Yup. You are right. That is why they would have needed Malleus to send Tony back in time.

Good catch.

Although, seeing through time ain't bad either.

Hrm, if Plutonian inspired Superman.

Where does that leave Superman inspiring Superman in All Star?

Originally posted by cdtm
Hrm, if Plutonian inspired Superman.

Where does that leave Superman inspiring Superman in All Star? It places Tony right smack dab at the center.

"The" hub of the Pan-Dimensional, Cross-Reality "Ubermensch Phenomenon".

The Super-Source.

any other input on this

Thanos. He'll damn sure know he was in a fight, though.

thanos

Didn't Plutonian force his way back to the present after that prisoner guy who was punching people through time got him with a haymaker? Or did he get back some other way?

Still reading Irredeemable, but from what I've read so far the Plutonian has a ways to go before he beats the likes of Thanos.

So I take it the Plutonian takes the majority?

^Nope.

If this is full potential Tony than yeah he beats Thanos

Originally posted by cdtm
Hrm, if Plutonian inspired Superman.

Where does that leave Superman inspiring Superman in All Star?
Plutonian inspired the creators of Superman.

There's a crucial difference here.

Originally posted by h1a8
So a fully aware Plutonian is weak to TP?

Originally posted by Bentley
Thanos mindrapes for the win.

Mind Whammy wont work. He evolved to the point of becoming resistant/immune from the Eloes telepathy.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16671956_irr_33_009.jpg

he could go toe to toe against Thankos.
I guess it depends on how aware of his powers he is.
On tho other hand it's not like he wasn't defeated 2-3 times during irredeemable