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The Anti Monitor has finally conquered the entire DC Universe and quickly moves onto his next target, the Marvelverse, and only one man can prevent him from succeeding...Adam Warlock.

Warlock Stipulations: No Infinity Gauntlet, or Omnipotent Artifacts, anything else is fair game. He, does have the Soul Gem though. He can recruit/enlist the help of anyone in the Marvelverse, but is limited to a maximum team size of 25, with only 2 Abstracts, Living Tribunal, Eternity and Infinity are off limits. Knows that in 1 year he will face a threat of universal proportions, but does not know from who or where until 1 week before it happens.

Anti-Monitor Stipulations: He has absorbed the DC Universe, but is not omnipotent. He has a knowledge of the Marvelverse, but it's limited what was learned by DC occupants during the various crossovers. Has prepared a basic strategy, but due to Warlock being outside of the Marvelverse, is unaware of his existence.

Warlock just goes to Marvel Earth for the win.

Reed + Prep, Doom + Prep, + Squirrel Girl=Marvel Win.

I think reed and doom can whip something up within the week that they find out who they're up against, if not the first day...

Is this the same Anti that survived the DC Multiverse being restarted, and survived said point blank attack.

If that's him, then Adam gets rape. Nothing but pis, even with backup can give Adam this won.

Originally posted by SquallX
Is this the same Anti that survived the DC Multiverse being restarted, and survived said point blank attack.

If that's him, then Adam gets rape. Nothing but pis, even with backup can give Adam this won. He has a whole year to round up people to prepare for him... and Doom can be recruited...

Warlock can win this.

Warlock .

AM.

Originally posted by Blight
He has a whole year to round up people to prepare for him... and Doom can be recruited...

Youre point being. This Anti at his highest showing, without pis, nothing Adam do will even work.

Adam easily.

People keep saying Adam just for the sake of saying Adam. What don't you guys at least give a reason why Adam stands a chance against a Multiversal being.

Maybe because Antimonitor was stopped under much rougher conditions in the dc universe. These conditions are extremely lax comparatively, and Alex Luthor is no Doom and Reed.

Originally posted by SquallX
People keep saying Adam just for the sake of saying Adam. What don't you guys at least give a reason why Adam stands a chance against a Multiversal being. Fair enough, Warlock has plenty of experience dealing with universal threats, has overcome ginormous odds on numerous occasions, and has shown himself to be a brilliant tactician. Anti-Monitor on the other hand has a history of starting sh*t and then getting his ass kicked when confronted by a significant force using basic kindergarten strategies.

The only problem I can see is you've excluded the ability to obtain Cosmic artifacts here. I'm sure doom and reed could find a way around it, though.

Originally posted by Blight
Maybe because Antimonitor was stopped under much rougher conditions in the dc universe. These conditions are extremely lax comparatively, and Alex Luthor is no Doom and Reed.

Ever heard of pis. Anti survived Spectre's creation blast, said blast restarted the DC Multiverse, at that time, the Dc Multiverse had no limit to how many Universes it had. The 52 Universes prior to the new 52 came after the Pre-Crisis era.

This means that Anti survived a blast that restarted Pre-Crisis Dc's Infinite verse.

Also it wasn't only Luther's plan that stop Anti, Darseid's Omega Effect played. Big role. Then Pis/Cis did the rest.

Originally posted by Blight
The only problem I can see is you've excluded the ability to obtain Cosmic artifacts here. I'm sure doom and reed could find a way around it, though. I didn't exclude all artifacts, just those that would grant omnipotence i.e the IG, HOTU, etc. Cosmic cubes are still fair game though.

With no cis prep reed shrinks anti down to the microverse or cho traps him with chaos king in that pocket reality.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
With no cis prep reed shrinks anti down to the microverse or cho traps him with chaos king in that pocket reality.

With no pis/Cis, Anti unleashes the Anti matter waves, and goodbye to all. Unless you claiming those guys can survived a wave that was erasing all in his path.

Originally posted by SquallX
With no pis/Cis, Anti unleashes the Anti matter waves, and goodbye to all. Unless you claiming those guys can survived a wave that was erasing all in his path. cho built super god Hercules so who ever dies comes back at skyfather+

Why do people always say "With No CIS" when CIS is on in forum situations?

Also, you really think with an entire year of prep and Anti Monitor not knowing who Adam Warlock, or really anyone like Thanos, Doom etc. is that they couldn't possibly pull a win?

Originally posted by Blight
Why do people always say "With No CIS" when CIS is on in forum situations?

Also, you really think with an entire year of prep and Anti Monitor not knowing who Adam Warlock, or really anyone like Thanos, Doom etc. is that they couldn't possibly pull a win?

This.

I mean, Warlock + Doom + Thanos + Richards + 22 other guys and two abstract beings gives Warlock an incredibly good chance at winning this.

Originally posted by SquallX
With no pis/Cis, Anti unleashes the Anti matter waves, and goodbye to all. Unless you claiming those guys can survived a wave that was erasing all in his path. The Anti-matter wave wouldn't kill everyone. For Blue Marvel that would be a power-up.

Are you also forgetting about Anti-Monitors army. His shadow demons were Pre-Crisis era bricks.

Concerning Blue Marvel And the Anti Wave, the day he can absorbs Anti-Matter, and a wave that lays waste to Universes then come talk to me. Also the Anti Wave was more than just a Universe ender, it didn't just destroyed everything, but also destroyed time literally.

Warlock, easily. Anti Monitor was only effective due to taking out universes prior to most of the heroes knowing. They dropped his ass and actually held back from killing him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Warlock, easily. Anti Monitor was only effective due to taking out universes prior to most of the heroes knowing. They dropped his ass and actually held back from killing him.

Genius, this is DOT Anti. Also the heroes couldn't squat shit against the Anti Matter verse wave.

Originally posted by SquallX
Genius, this is DOT Anti. Also the heroes couldn't squat shit against the Anti Matter verse wave. They did stop Anti Monitor. Warlock does so with a cc.

Originally posted by Blight
Maybe because Antimonitor was stopped under much rougher conditions in the dc universe. These conditions are extremely lax comparatively, and Alex Luthor is no Doom and Reed.

lol! Alex has one of the most insane scientific feat ever. Bringing back the Multiverse and manipulating it on a whim. He literally embarrassed Lex Luthor in their meeting.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
lol! Alex has one of the most insane scientific feat ever. Bringing back the Multiverse and manipulating it on a whim. He literally embarrassed Lex Luthor in their meeting. He also died shortly thereafter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They did stop Anti Monitor. Warlock does so with a cc.

You're stupidity knows no limit.

There were specific reason why Anti lost.

Originally posted by Brockalizer

Warlock Stipulations: No Infinity Gauntlet, or Omnipotent Artifacts, anything else is fair game. He, does have the Soul Gem though. He can recruit/enlist the help of anyone in the Marvelverse, but is limited to a maximum team size of 25, with only 2 Abstracts, Living Tribunal, Eternity and Infinity are off limits. Knows that in 1 year he will face a threat of universal proportions, but does not know from who or where until 1 week before it happens.

Anti-Monitor Stipulations: He has absorbed the DC Universe, but is not omnipotent. He has a knowledge of the Marvelverse, but it's limited what was learned by DC occupants during the various crossovers. Has prepared a basic strategy, but due to Warlock being outside of the Marvelverse, is unaware of his existence.

Adam Warlock's plan.

Abstracts:
1. Death: She can and has granted immortality to individuals, Warlock's team will need this.
2. Oblivion: everything that's nullified goes to his realm. Death has been nullified in a non-canon future. Even Death some how is removed, she would enter his realm. Oblivion ensures all nullified can returned, including Death.

Team:
1. Thanos
2. Dr Doom
3. Hank Pym
4. Reed Richards
5. Kang The Conqueror
6. Cho
7. Dr Strange
8. Kubik
9. Shaper of Worlds
10. Odin
11. Mephisto
11. Dormammu
12. Aggamotto
13. Cyttorak


Artifacts

1. Ultimate Nullifier - Not sure if this is allowed but it might just kill AM. Could also be used to reset the MU.
2. Cosmic Cube for Warlock
3. Power Gem for Kubik
4. Mind Gem for Shaper
5. Reality Gem for Odin
6. Time Gem for Kang
7. Space Gem for Doom
8. Casket of Ancient Winters for Mephisto
9. Access to the Infinity Well for knowledge

Team would likely try and steal AM's powers once they realize how powerful his was seeing as the skyfather and Cosmic Cube beings are getting stomped by him. Thanos and Doom makes a play for stealing AM's power. Kang enters the past warn them of possible failures/annihilation, giving Warlock knowledge of the future.

Also AM's anti-matter wave wouldn't do anything to this team at all considering their immortal and Oblivion banning them from his realm. AM is powerful but how does he deal with Death or Oblivion getting a hold of the Power Gem? If Warlock decides to make that play, AM gets a terrible beating. Not sure if the UN is allowed but it could put him down as well. That's a last resort weapon.

Team can takes this. Prep makes a big difference here.

Originally posted by SquallX
Are you also forgetting about Anti-Monitors army. His shadow demons were Pre-Crisis era bricks.

Kubik turns them all into pudding.



When people get nullified or killed the MU, they end up either in Oblivion or Death's realm. Doesn't happen here because both prevent them from entering their relam. Wave does nothing to this team at all.

Originally posted by SquallX
Ever heard of pis. Anti survived Spectre's creation blast, said blast restarted the DC Multiverse, at that time, the Dc Multiverse had no limit to how many Universes it had. The 52 Universes prior to the new 52 came after the Pre-Crisis era.

This means that Anti survived a blast that restarted Pre-Crisis Dc's Infinite verse.

Also it wasn't only Luther's plan that stop Anti, Darseid's Omega Effect played. Big role. Then Pis/Cis did the rest.

Thankfully the thread starter said AM isn't omnipotent. Somewhere between surviving Spectre's blast and getting beaten by Alexander's team lies AM's true strength. IIRC, somebody pointed out that Spectre could've killed AM but decided not too. AM is not invincible to that point that Death and Oblivion with the Power Gem can't put this guy down. His lesser showing suggest the team can beat him by taking his power away.

AM could win this but Warlock could as well. IMO, Warlock takes him down with the amount of prep and a good team. Warlock has adverted universal/mulitversal disasters, even out playing the Magus' game. The only other that came close to beating Magus was Doom and Kang, who Warlock will likely recruit.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing

Also AM's anti-matter wave wouldn't do anything to this team at all considering their immortal and Oblivion banning them from his realm. AM is powerful but how does he deal with Death or Oblivion getting a hold of the Power Gem? If Warlock decides to make that play, AM gets a terrible beating. Not sure if the UN is allowed but it could put him down as well. That's a last resort weapon.


Doesn't Mephisto have immunity to anti-matter ?
(Doom used an anti-matter shell against him here) :

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/drsstrangeanddoom73lt7.jpg/

Considering this isn't MU so being nullified and sent to obilivion's realm is out of the way and the avatar of death thanos was reduced to a skeleton by an anti matter mine, I don't think being made immortal by Death is going to do anything here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Considering this isn't MU so being nullified and sent to obilivion's realm is out of the way and the avatar of death thanos was reduced to a skeleton by an anti matter mine, I don't think being made immortal by Death is going to do anything here.

Where are you getting this idea that they aren't in the MU? Thanos still resurrected back. Guys like Kubik and Shaper make the attack irrelevant if they wanted too.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Where are you getting this idea that they aren't in the MU? Thanos still resurrected back. Guys like Kubik and Shaper make the attack irrelevant if they wanted too.
Unless specified the fights happen in a neutral universe. He was down long enough for a forum win. They can make an attack which consumed nearly INFINITE universeS irrelevant?

Per the OP, Anti-Monitor is coming to the Marvelverse.

With Death or Oblivion's blessings, i don't see how they lose.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Adam Warlock's plan.

Abstracts:
1. Death: She can and has granted immortality to individuals, Warlock's team will need this.
2. Oblivion: everything that's nullified goes to his realm. Death has been nullified in a non-canon future. Even Death some how is removed, she would enter his realm. Oblivion ensures all nullified can returned, including Death.

Team:
1. Thanos
2. Dr Doom
3. Hank Pym
4. Reed Richards
5. Kang The Conqueror
6. Cho
7. Dr Strange
8. Kubik
9. Shaper of Worlds
10. Odin
11. Mephisto
11. Dormammu
12. Aggamotto
13. Cyttorak


Artifacts

1. Ultimate Nullifier - Not sure if this is allowed but it might just kill AM. Could also be used to reset the MU.
2. Cosmic Cube for Warlock
3. Power Gem for Kubik
4. Mind Gem for Shaper
5. Reality Gem for Odin
6. Time Gem for Kang
7. Space Gem for Doom
8. Casket of Ancient Winters for Mephisto
9. Access to the Infinity Well for knowledge

Team would likely try and steal AM's powers once they realize how powerful his was seeing as the skyfather and Cosmic Cube beings are getting stomped by him. Thanos and Doom makes a play for stealing AM's power. Kang enters the past warn them of possible failures/annihilation, giving Warlock knowledge of the future.

Also AM's anti-matter wave wouldn't do anything to this team at all considering their immortal and Oblivion banning them from his realm. AM is powerful but how does he deal with Death or Oblivion getting a hold of the Power Gem? If Warlock decides to make that play, AM gets a terrible beating. Not sure if the UN is allowed but it could put him down as well. That's a last resort weapon.

Team can takes this. Prep makes a big difference here.



Kubik turns them all into pudding.



When people get nullified or killed the MU, they end up either in Oblivion or Death's realm. Doesn't happen here because both prevent them from entering their relam. Wave does nothing to this team at all.



Thankfully the thread starter said AM isn't omnipotent. Somewhere between surviving Spectre's blast and getting beaten by Alexander's team lies AM's true strength. IIRC, somebody pointed out that Spectre could've killed AM but decided not too. AM is not invincible to that point that Death and Oblivion with the Power Gem can't put this guy down. His lesser showing suggest the team can beat him by taking his power away.

AM could win this but Warlock could as well. IMO, Warlock takes him down with the amount of prep and a good team. Warlock has adverted universal/mulitversal disasters, even out playing the Magus' game. The only other that came close to beating Magus was Doom and Kang, who Warlock will likely recruit.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Unless specified the fights happen in a neutral universe. He was down long enough for a forum win. They can make an attack which consumed nearly INFINITE universeS irrelevant?

This got me scratching my head.

Originally posted by SquallX
You're stupidity knows no limit.

There were specific reason why Anti lost. Yes, because he was weak. Marvel u destroys him even worse.Originally posted by abhilegend
Unless specified the fights happen in a neutral universe. He was down long enough for a forum win. They can make an attack which consumed nearly INFINITE universeS irrelevant? It's specified.

You just really want the dc guy to win. It's obvious.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Unless specified the fights happen in a neutral universe.

Read the first post.



Except this isn't a forum fight, it's a scenerio fight. The question is whether Warlock can stop AM, not whether Warlock and team can beat AM long enough for a tap out. If that's the case, the team has an even better chance to win since Death and Oblivion start the beat down on AM to knock him out for the 3 count. Prep and the element of surprise is on their side.

Thanos was immortal but not invulnerable - true. But that doesn't mean she can't make him invulnerable. She's the one that upgraded his classic body beyond his previous. Anti-matter isn't harming them if she doesn't want it too. Your talking about Death here.

It wiped out universes of matter, she's beyond matter. She's an abstract the can banned souls from her realm. Devastate a universe of elder gods with a touch. She's the opposite of life, Eternity. Oblivion is the void of space. Destroying space/time only makes Oblivion's domain bigger and supply Death with more power. How does AM win again? He kills the heroes, only to power up the Abstracts who resurrect their champions to attack him again.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Read the first post.

Yeah, I read it. My bad.





No, its a forum fight based on a scenario. Where was death when chaos king destroying the multiverse? Oh right, she fled outside it. You are giving death and obilivion too much credit here. Here is your mighty obilivion getting beaten by ICEMAN.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4976/ice14dz5.jpg

Irrelevant hypothetical scenario. She made him an avatar of death and he got reduced to skeleton by an anti matter mine. Later he said that he is invulnerable to any attack which mantis speculated earlier.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_TI_4_Headshot_CPS_023.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_ti-03.jpg And? Just like in thanos imperative right? Oh wait........

We are talking about attacks that destroy almost infinite universeS. Death is universal abstract and the last time an attack of such proportion came her way, she tucked her bony tail between her legs and ran away.

Really? She is beyond matter? What kind of argument is that? Do you have any proof or you are just making this up? Considering death has been killed before in 616 and cancerverse, I find that a little hard to believe. Big whoop, AM destroyed almost infinite universeS. So is galactus, guess what happens to him against AM? Except anti-matter doesn't nullify beings or destroy space-time. That's entropy.

By destroying their physical forms long enough to score a forum win. Considering it took thanos a lot of time to come back from being reduced to skeleton, being destroyed to their basic atoms would take a reasonably long time to come back. Except anti-matter doesn't erases someone from existence and that renders your oblivion argument moot.

@Abhilegend

Thanos was only destroyed by that anti matter bomb due to being weakened. That's like me using a k-nite weakened Superman as evidence of what someone else can due to him while ignoring he's weakened.

You also cite pis often but want to use Oblivion's lowest showing ever. Is that how he's normally portrayed ? I can play this game though. Trust me.

Adam recruits Protoge.

Protoge then copies AM's powers for the win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
@Abhilegend

Thanos was only destroyed by that anti matter bomb due to being weakened. That's like me using a k-nite weakened Superman as evidence of what someone else can due to him while ignoring he's weakened.

You also cite pis often but want to use Oblivion's lowest showing ever. Is that how he's normally portrayed ? I can play this game though. Trust me.
His AOD powers weren't weakened, were they? Anyway he had gathered "too much power" between that and CCU blast and after returning from that was pwning revengers left and right.

Why not? You always play this game quan.Originally posted by Igniz
Adam recruits Protoge.

Protoge then copies AM's powers for the win.
LT is banned so protege would be banned too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
His AOD powers weren't weakened, were they? Anyway he had gathered "too much power" between that and CCU blast and after returning from that was pwning revengers left and right.

Why not? You always play this game quan.
LT is banned so protege would be banned too. No, but his durability was. He was regaining strength but nowhere near to his full power so it isn't usable.

My debating is consistent yours isn't. I don't argue pis and what not. You selectively choose what counts and what doesn't. Originally posted by Igniz
Adam recruits Protoge.

Protoge then copies AM's powers for the win. That'd be too easy. Too many powerhouses in marvel for Coie Am to deal with.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, I read it. My bad.

No, its a forum fight based on a scenario. Where was death when chaos king destroying the multiverse? Oh right, she fled outside it. You are giving death and obilivion too much credit here. Here is your mighty obilivion getting beaten by ICEMAN.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4976/ice14dz5.jpg

Thanks for showing some pic every knows about to prove nothing. Who was it that nearly got killed by Supergirl? Death ran from Chaos King for story sake. Heck by that point CK was the equivalent of Oblivion. Oblivion wasn't there because Pak use substituting CK for Oblivion's position. It was a hack story considering CK back down from Zom when they met. The same Zom that was killed by Marlo with a small fraction of Death in her being. Do you understand that? Zom, who Eternity and Dormammu locked away, was kill by a girl with a small fragment of Death inside of her. Story was hack, cosmology messed up, so Pak could write his ridiculous ending to Hercules.




She made him an avatar, not invulnerable. You act as if anti-matter is so special that death couldn't even overcome it if she wanted too. She shielded Eros and Nebula from a Infinity Gauntlet attack which Eros thought was going to kill them.



Death is a multiversal abstract depending on stories. It says he's attacking the MU, not just the 616. When did she run away from such an attack?



Other than the fact that she's an abstract and not a physical being? You throw anti-matter at Death and your gonna beat her how? It's like you attack the void with anti-matter? What's anti-matter destroying in the void? What you see of these beings are merely M-bodies. It's a manifestation of them, not actually them. Oh snap, anti-matter's gonna destroy the universe and leave the void! Oblivion is soooooooo scared!




Galactus is not an abstract in the way Death and Oblivion are. What concept does Galactus represent? Galactus has a physical body under most depictions, the abstracts like Death and Oblivion manifest using M-Bodies, it's not actually them.

Death has been killed by ritual magic backed by Chtulhu gods from another universe. Gods that include Shuma Gorath who's conquered thousands of dimensions. Anti-matter isn't magic genius. And what happened then was it made that universe's residents immortal. So guess what? Killing Death would make this team immortal. Nice plan. By the way, Kubik warped an entire universe into his hand. I think him and Shaper are really afraid of an anti-matter attack. Please.

Then what does anti-matter do then?




Destroying atoms? Yeah good one. I mean it's not like the Cosmic Cube or the Cube Beings themselves can bend the laws of the universe at their whim despite all those showings where they have. All those showings of them playing with atoms, bringing consciousness to drawings and plants, turning people into plants and or water, creating an entire universe, they're gonna be useless against "anti-matter". It's not like the Cosmic Cubes draw their powers from a source outside the multiverse that the Tribual allows to seep in. Apparently anti-matter would also some how trump the void of space or the lack of life. Great argument there buddy. Anti-matter destroys the void/Oblivion. How does that work? I don't see Eternity being one of the abstracts I mentioned Warlock would recruit. Ain't this nice. The Anti-Monitor gets to fight Death and Oblivion in their own realms by collapsing universes and expanding these abstracts domain/power base. Where basically even the dead and annihilated are soldiers of these abstracts. Good plan Anti-Monitor, good plan. Warlock would play you like a fool.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Thanks for showing some pic every knows about to prove nothing. Who was it that nearly got killed by Supergirl? Death ran from Chaos King for story sake. Heck by that point CK was the equivalent of Oblivion. Oblivion wasn't there because Pak use substituting CK for Oblivion's position. It was a hack story considering CK back down from Zom when they met. The same Zom that was killed by Marlo with a small fraction of Death in her being. Do you understand that? Zom, who Eternity and Dormammu locked away, was kill by a girl with a small fragment of Death inside of her. Story was hack, cosmology messed up, so Pak could write his ridiculous ending to Hercules.

Yeah, it does. Oblivion was beaten by frigging ICEMAN. Nice to know that a PC kryptonian who was getting her highest showing a usual for dying heroes is only comparable to iceman. It was a shit story but its canon and you are talking about the same zom who was exorcised by hiroim? That was a zomling who doesn't have the powers of full zom. When did CK backed away from Zom? He was the one who bonded zom to strange forcefully. When has oblivion showed the power to absorb entire multiverse because you are claiming that CK was equivalent to oblivion? Its canon no matter how much internet defenders of marvel cosmic dignity ***** about it.




Like I said you are going by hypothetical scenario, I am going from on panel proof. Guess which is more reliable?

That's in the same vain as thanos surviving an IG blast and surfer blowing the hands of ruin with IG. Considering a wall of anti-matter that destroy infinite universes is nothing special is just plain stupid. Like I said the last time such an attack came her way deth fled outside the multiverse.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKDefeatsDeath1.jpg



Yeah and Thanos imperative showed otherwise when cancerverse death was killed by many angle ones. Look above.



Any proof of this theory of yours? Considering she has been harmed by conventional means your theory is quite absurd to say the least.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/12036735_scaled-1.jpeg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12036736_scaled.jpeg

Considering in these types of threads the matter of how an attack is used is not important, the power to harm is what's important.



Not always and unless its been shown or referenced that the abstract appearing in a comic is using a M-body, its not a auto retcon that the losing of an abstract is due to M-bodies. Considering he would get beat senseless if he tries to fight AM directly, he should be scared.




Yeah, he is. Not my words, death herself says it.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/FantasticFour257-05.jpg

Galactus has no true form either.

http://jb.24-7intouch.com/forum/uploads/JohnByrne/2004-09-24_204133_Galactus.jpg

Yeah, now shuma gorath who has been beaten by Dr. strange is above Anti-monitor too. How many abstracts are their in marvel? Is silver surfer an abstract too since he defeated an IG wielder? Like I said at these levels the type of attack is irrelevant, what matters is the power to harm someone. Guess what, AM destroyed a whole multiverse and fought a fully backed spectre amped by several of the most powerful mages including a 5-D Imp and survived a blast that created another multiverse and sent spectre in coma. You are acting like magic is some kind of abstract power which can't be beaten by cosmic powers. At the level we're talking about they as well be the same. It wouldn't make their bodies immune to physical harm which is enough for a forum win. Thank you good sir.

Thunderbolt has warped entire multiverse pre-crisis and he was shitting his pants seeing the anti-matter wall. Maaldor created a whole new universe by his internal energies and was killed as an afterthought by the same attack IIRC. Warping a universe is just routine exercise in marvel. Legion has done it

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8607/newmutants230024.jpg

Sphinx has done it too and later reversed it.

Originally posted by dmills
Classic Sphinx vs The FF and Inhumans...

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After that is when the King ambushes him...

The Sphinx warped Egypt into a super power.



Takes Firestars full power blast to the chest (all available electromagnetic energy in the atmosphere) just to see what she's got... Some other interesting tidbits in the dialogue as well.

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The two Sphinx's, Meryet the female and the true Sphinx, Anuth merge into one Sphinx...

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Those two Sphinx's make up the being of the current incarnation...

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8439/1338564370549.jpg

Meryet is the female counterpart who gained a large portion of the original Sphinx's powers. She's the one that warped 616 into her own vision of the way things should be. You'd have to read the arc to understand how thoroughly she altered reality and time. The Egyptian gods seemed to have replaced the Asgardian gods in prominence, some heroes had been completely depowered and were living normal lives. Captains America was a dark skinned dude lol. Firelord was a woman. Horus replaced Thor etc. Interestingly, only Nova and to a lessor degree, Iron Man realized something was wrong with the way things were.

Meryet takes on just about every significant hero and villain on Earth. Starts wiping them out right off the bat... (something Thanos would need the Infinity gauntlet or some other artifact to do

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2664/1338565340628.jpg
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2295/1338565362609.jpg
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http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5282/1338565516951.jpg
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Warps 616 back to normal...

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8079/1338566518808.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4153/1338566836picsay1338566.jpg Original Sphinx taking back his power from Meryet...

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4770/1338566777picsay1338566.jpg

And in true keeping with his motives, after reclaiming all of his power he gives her the key to defeating him.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4153/1338566836picsay1338566.jpg

I'll be back after work to post more scans. Eye beams that transcend time thus bypassing shields, strength, ability to pick opponents off at literally any "time" he chooses etc.

Nxt yu would be telling me that all of these peeps can survive an attack which consumed almost infinite universes and had nearly ended creation if harbinger hadn't used the power of Monitor and pulled all five remaining universes out of its path. Please.



Destroy them?


Thunderbolt can do the same, mxy can do it better than everyone you mentioned and what did he do? Lock 5th dimension because he was scared shitless and for his good fortune its outside the regular DC multiverse. Like I said earlier its not the manner of attack that is relevant here, its the power. You actually think that if COIE anti-monitor come to marvel, cube beings would stop him? Really? Kubic has said himself that a random celestial is far beyond them. A cube being aka molecule man has been beaten by a watcher, by claw and by voidtry. Try again. So, they are going to destroy everything to stop AM? Great argument there buddy. Right back at you buddy. Just like Iceman beats oblivion. Its comics. I didn't say that he would recruit eternity either. Considering only death would be powered up somewhat by it because it doesn't erase someone from existence. Just convert their physical forms in energy by matter-antimatter collision upon which AM feeds.

Yeah good luck fighting an Anti-monitor who has absorbed several universes worth of energies by souls of deceased beings considering oblivion isn't getting shit with anti matter destroying universes. The last time someone like Anti-monitor came to MU who has absorbed energies of several universes and someone with a plan to stop him, it didn't went well for MU. What artifacts grandmaster used to stop krona and what happened to him afterwards btw?

Wow, Strange uses all three mystic deities into an attack that momentarily disperses a manifestation of Death. He's beating Death for realz bro. Go see Thanos Imperative where Death wrecks an entire universe of Gods which the Dr Strange of that universe was a servant to.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, it does. Oblivion was beaten by frigging ICEMAN. Nice to know that a PC kryptonian who was getting her highest showing a usual for dying heroes is only comparable to iceman. It was a shit story but its canon and you are talking about the same zom who was exorcised by hiroim? That was a zomling who doesn't have the powers of full zom. When did CK backed away from Zom? He was the one who bonded zom to strange forcefully. When has oblivion showed the power to absorb entire multiverse because you are claiming that CK was equivalent to oblivion? Its canon no matter how much internet defenders of marvel cosmic dignity ***** about it.


Like I said you are going by hypothetical scenario, I am going from on panel proof. Guess which is more reliable?

That's in the same vain as thanos surviving an IG blast and surfer blowing the hands of ruin with IG. Considering a wall of anti-matter that destroy infinite universes is nothing special is just plain stupid. Like I said the last time such an attack came her way deth fled outside the multiverse.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/CKDefeatsDeath1.jpg

Yeah and Thanos imperative showed otherwise when cancerverse death was killed by many angle ones. Look above.

Any proof of this theory of yours? Considering she has been harmed by conventional means your theory is quite absurd to say the least.

Considering in these types of threads the matter of how an attack is used is not important, the power to harm is what's important.

Yeah, he is. Not my words, death herself says it.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Importance/FantasticFour257-05.jpg

Galactus has no true form either.

http://jb.24-7intouch.com/forum/uploads/JohnByrne/2004-09-24_204133_Galactus.jpg

Yeah, now shuma gorath who has been beaten by Dr. strange is above Anti-monitor too. How many abstracts are their in marvel? Is silver surfer an abstract too since he defeated an IG wielder? Like I said at these levels the type of attack is irrelevant, what matters is the power to harm someone. Guess what, AM destroyed a whole multiverse and fought a fully backed spectre amped by several of the most powerful mages including a 5-D Imp and survived a blast that created another multiverse and sent spectre in coma. You are acting like magic is some kind of abstract power which can't be beaten by cosmic powers. At the level we're talking about they as well be the same. It wouldn't make their bodies immune to physical harm which is enough for a forum win. Thank you good sir.

Thunderbolt has warped entire multiverse pre-crisis and he was shitting his pants seeing the anti-matter wall. Maaldor created a whole new universe by his internal energies and was killed as an afterthought by the same attack IIRC. Warping a universe is just routine exercise in marvel. Legion has done it

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8607/newmutants230024.jpg

Sphinx has done it too and later reversed it.



Nxt yu would be telling me that all of these peeps can survive an attack which consumed almost infinite universes and had nearly ended creation if harbinger hadn't used the power of Monitor and pulled all five remaining universes out of its path. Please.

Destroy them?


Thunderbolt can do the same, mxy can do it better than everyone you mentioned and what did he do? Lock 5th dimension because he was scared shitless and for his good fortune its outside the regular DC multiverse. Like I said earlier its not the manner of attack that is relevant here, its the power. You actually think that if COIE anti-monitor come to marvel, cube beings would stop him? Really? Kubic has said himself that a random celestial is far beyond them. A cube being aka molecule man has been beaten by a watcher, by claw and by voidtry. Try again. So, they are going to destroy everything to stop AM? Great argument there buddy. Right back at you buddy. Just like Iceman beats oblivion. Its comics. I didn't say that he would recruit eternity either. Considering only death would be powered up somewhat by it because it doesn't erase someone from existence. Just convert their physical forms in energy by matter-antimatter collision upon which AM feeds.

I think Marvel writers read your post and decide to explain things draw pictures along with words so you can understand who Oblivion is.


Thanks to Guy for the scans.
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12104933_Thor_Annual-Zone_019.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12104935_Thor_Annual-Zone_020.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12104938_Thor_Annual-Zone_021.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12104942_Thor_Annual-Zone_042.jpg



Funny, stuff 'cuz apparently Mikaboshi is merely one aspect of the Infinity that is Oblivion. This one aspect absorbed most of the multiverse.



Oh shit, really? AM absorbed several universes? CK did the equivalent of that and he was just an aspect of Oblivion. Ironically most fans speculated this about CK but Marvel never made it clear until now.



Speaking of that, when was the last time that happened canonically in the MU? The only canonical thing regarding universe eaters was the Rot and the Hunger. The Rot was stopped by Death and Thanos. The Hunger was beaten by Thanos and Galactus. Avengers/JLA was a crossover and treated as such non-canon event to Marvel.



Scared of AM? I haven't seen anything showing Oblivion is scared of any being. In fact, Oblivion even points out what you see is a manifestation of him.

AM does something one aspect of the infinite power that is Oblivion accomplished and we should think AM can beat Oblivion backed by Death? Your silliness has no ends.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Thanks to Guy for the scans.
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12104933_Thor_Annual-Zone_019.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12104935_Thor_Annual-Zone_020.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12104938_Thor_Annual-Zone_021.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12104942_Thor_Annual-Zone_042.jpg



Funny, stuff 'cuz apparently Mikaboshi is merely one aspect of the Infinity that is Oblivion. This one aspect absorbed most of the multiverse.



Oh shit, really? AM absorbed several universes? CK did the equivalent of that and he was just an aspect of Oblivion. Ironically most fans speculated this about CK but Marvel never made it clear until now.


Scared of AM? I haven't seen anything showing Oblivion is scared of any being. In fact, Oblivion even points out what you see is a manifestation of him.

AM does something one aspect of the infinite power that is Oblivion accomplished and we should think AM can beat Oblivion backed by Death? Your silliness has no ends.

I think someone just got owned.

I love how Adam Warlock vs Anti-Monitor turns into Anti-Monitor versus....everyone but Adam Warlock...

Originally posted by Igniz
I think someone just got owned. Abhilegend was severely owned.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Wow, Strange uses all three mystic deities into an attack that momentarily disperses a manifestation of Death. He's beating Death for realz bro. Go see Thanos Imperative where Death wrecks an entire universe of Gods which the Dr Strange of that universe was a servant to.

Yeah anytime someone beats an abstract its just an M-body. I've heard that excuse before and just laughed at that. You have any proof that it was just a manifestation? Anyway strange is hardly an abstract. I've seen that already and wasn't impressed. Beating some no named elder gods is hardly worth mentioning for someone like Daeth. The only name we got was shuma-gorath and the guy has been beaten senseless by strange at less than full power.



So you want me to know about the future comics when I post something? Cool. You know what, it makes oblivion even more pathetic when one aspect of him has to draw power from almost every god in 616 to absorb the multiverse. You are talking like being an aspect of some abstract means he is just a minuscule part of him. Nope, infinity and eternity are aspects of each other too.

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/c/cc/EternityInfinity.jpg

This just makes oblivion look even worse when one aspect of him gets beaten and imprisoned by Japanese gods and later beaten by ares.




By drawing the power from nearly every god in 616 reality and then got stalemated by a skyfather.



Yeah, he absorbed nearly infinite universes on his own power. CK did it with help and even then he was stalemated by a skyfather. Speculation isn't a valid and now when its established that CK is just another form of oblivion, it makes him look even worse.





Orly? JLA/Avengers is canon for marvel too. From Monica rambeau's bio in the OHOTMU

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/photonhandbook3.jpg

From Grandmaster's bio in OHOTMU

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/grandmasterbio.jpg

What've you got that proves its non-canon?





He would be when he would get his ass beat by AM.





Oh yeah, now that oblivion told us that he is infinite and what one aspect of him did with outside amp, he literally has infinite power. LMAO. He shows us his infinite power very well here by getting his ass beat by Iceman.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4976/ice14dz5.jpg

Marvel fanboys in general are silly when they can't differentiate between boasting and facts. Well, death fled from one aspect of Oblivion, I don't think she can do anything of importance here except banning souls from entering her realm.

Originally posted by Igniz
I think someone just got owned. Originally posted by quanchi112
Abhilegend was severely owned.



Go cheerleaders. Have you brought your pom-poms, girls?

Iceman beating Oblivion is PIS, honestly.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Iceman beating Oblivion is PIS, honestly.
Come now jake, it was a glorious feat for oblivion's infinite power.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Come now jake, it was a glorious feat for oblivion's infinite power.

It's PIS.

Canon, sure, but a lot of instances of PIS are canon. In any case, it doesn't really have any place in a legitimate versus thread.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah anytime someone beats an abstract its just an M-body. I've heard that excuse before and just laughed at that. You have any proof that it was just a manifestation? Anyway strange is hardly an abstract. I've seen that already and wasn't impressed. Beating some no named elder gods is hardly worth mentioning for someone like Daeth. The only name we got was shuma-gorath and the guy has been beaten senseless by strange at less than full power.

It was Death's manifestation. Death is abstract/concept, not a physical being with actual form geez. It's been started numerous times and in the same manner Oblivion states it. What you see isn't truly them.

So because they have no names your gonna act like they aren't powerful? But these no names happened to beat the might of well known cosmics that included Galactus, Aegis, Tenebrous, and a host of Celestials. And if I recall, those were the minions of the Elder Gods, not even them. Death comes in and, with one attack, puts an entire universe of these gods down where a host Celestial beings failed miserably. No, I see your valid point there buddy.



Except for the part where Marvel spells it out to you that Mikaboshi is one aspect of the INFINITY that is Oblivion? Infinity and Eternity are opposites of the same coin. Oblivion/Marvel considers CK not to be him and that's why CK lost. Because CK is not Oblivion, just one aspect of the infinity that is Oblivion. Lol. Infinity and Eternity are considered equals. Your attempt at fail is hilarious.



Lol. What? That's like trying to claim AM's shadow demons lost to the JLA and therefore it makes AM look worse. Probes lost to Doomsday and Wonder Woman. Man it looks terrible for Imperiex Prime, they'll beat him up!



Wait wait. The same Herc that ascended beyond skyfather? The one that repaired the entire multiverse? The one that gained near omnipotence through a combination of godly items across multiple pantheon? Please, Zeus was a skyfather. Sharra & K'ythri are skyfathers. Kly'bn and Sl'gur't are skyfathers. Mikaboshi stomped all of them and even then he wasn't at the height of his powers like when he fought Herc and stomped Herc.




Stalemate?
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/57606/1647720-final002_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/57606/1647721-final003_super.jpg

CK is not Oblivion and lost because he's not Oblivion, just one aspect of the infinity that is Oblivion. Marvel is making it clear to you. And CK didn't need help. The majority of those were mindless drones absorbed by the CK. One a few like Glory, Abomination, and Zom were there voluntarily. Every pantheon absorbed were drones, including Ares and Zeus.



It's a crossover and regarded as such. Same thing with Handbooks. Aren't you desperate. Some hand books and we should take it as canon? The Tribunal already declared the IG's ineffective together so how does it apparently work in Avenger's/JLA if it's canon to the MU?



Not really. An aspect of Oblivion did exactly what AM did and was only stop through trickery. CK thought he'd won and settled for it. AM ain't shit to Oblivion really.




All I see is a desperate attempt to argue otherwise. Iceman is your argument? Not PIS? Lol. Hell, I could even call out the Iceman incident as an early appearance and that Oblivion has been established and retconned to be far more powerful. It's one minor low showing for Oblivion. Because at this point, CK accomplished nearly the same thing as AM and he wasn't even Oblivion, just an aspect.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah anytime someone beats an abstract its just an M-body. I've heard that excuse before and just laughed at that. You have any proof that it was just a manifestation? Anyway strange is hardly an abstract. I've seen that already and wasn't impressed. Beating some no named elder gods is hardly worth mentioning for someone like Daeth. The only name we got was shuma-gorath and the guy has been beaten senseless by strange at less than full power.



So you want me to know about the future comics when I post something? Cool. You know what, it makes oblivion even more pathetic when one aspect of him has to draw power from almost every god in 616 to absorb the multiverse. You are talking like being an aspect of some abstract means he is just a minuscule part of him. Nope, infinity and eternity are aspects of each other too.

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/c/cc/EternityInfinity.jpg

This just makes oblivion look even worse when one aspect of him gets beaten and imprisoned by Japanese gods and later beaten by ares.




By drawing the power from nearly every god in 616 reality and then got stalemated by a skyfather.



Yeah, he absorbed nearly infinite universes on his own power. CK did it with help and even then he was stalemated by a skyfather. Speculation isn't a valid and now when its established that CK is just another form of oblivion, it makes him look even worse.





Orly? JLA/Avengers is canon for marvel too. From Monica rambeau's bio in the OHOTMU

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/photonhandbook3.jpg

From Grandmaster's bio in OHOTMU

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/grandmasterbio.jpg

What've you got that proves its non-canon?





He would be when he would get his ass beat by AM.





Oh yeah, now that oblivion told us that he is infinite and what one aspect of him did with outside amp, he literally has infinite power. LMAO. He shows us his infinite power very well here by getting his ass beat by Iceman.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4976/ice14dz5.jpg

Marvel fanboys in general are silly when they can't differentiate between boasting and facts. Well, death fled from one aspect of Oblivion, I don't think she can do anything of importance here except banning souls from entering her realm.



Go cheerleaders. Have you brought your pom-poms, girls?

Wow I find Irony in your post.You keep using the Iceman incedent to prove Oblivion would lose to COIE Anti-Monitor but refuse to accept the current issue about Oblivion were it was shown that Chaos King is just an aspect of Oblivion.You use low showing against Marvel Characters when it suits your argument.You did it in this thread by the way.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563511&pagenumber=3

You tried to prove that Odin can no longer stop time in order to prove your case that the team would beat Odin in that thread.That's the time you accepted the current issue about Odin.Hence the irony that you can't accept that current Oblivion just made COIE Anti-Monitor look like a peep squeek since the aspect did what COIE AM did.And now you try to low ball CK?First, the Japanese Gods imprisoned a weakened CK.Second, CK didn't just took on Super God Herc whom you keep calling a mere skyfather.I'll post the scan from Chaos War:X-men about a prophecy against Chaos King.

The One Above All gets involved in stopping the Chaos King.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/TOAAinvolvedinstoppingCK.jpg?t=1303206697

The Ancient Entities of Creation is awaken to fight the Chaos King.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/AncientEntitiesofCreation.jpg?t=1303261666

John praying.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/JohnPraystoTOAA.jpg?t=1303261992

You can either say CK was weakened when he battled SG Herc, or SG Herc was ampped, or both.Oh BTW, Iceman was knocked out by CK in CW#1.He was one of the heroes summoned by Herc.And CK used Nightmare's powers to KO the heroes.By the way, Anti-Monitor ended up as a corpse while CK was only BFR'ed.Oblivion>>>CK>>>Death>>>COIE Anti-Monitor.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
It was Death's manifestation. Death is abstract/concept, not a physical being with actual form geez. It's been started numerous times and in the same manner Oblivion states it. What you see isn't truly them.

So, we're back to square one for her feats. Anytime she gets beat is her manifestation and otherwise its really her. Wow, that's convenient and that never stopped any of the marvel wankers to accept the darkseid retcon of final crisis.

Yeah, I think that's right. That was galactus engine, not many angled ones. Perfect ABC logic. Ok and what does that have to do with anything? Did death directly confronted galactus engine? She killed the many angled ones and the root of cancerverse was cut off. Right back at ya buddy.



And? Oblivion is certainly not infinite and whatever form he took as chaos king was beaten by some Japanese gods. Your attempt of confusing yourself is hilarious. Come back when you can distinguish between characters boasting something and actual facts.



Yeah, because they were literally an aspect of him, right?



Yeah, the same herc who punched chaos king in the continuum. You just forgot how mikaboshi was absorbing powers of entire pantheons before that. Before that an aspect of oblivion got his ass beat up by japanese gods and ares.






Way to ignore the context buddy. Do you want me to post the entire fight where herc was fighting on even terms with chaos king?

He lost with powers of nearly every god in 616 reality something you forgot. before that amp he lost to japanese gods and ares. Keep telling yourself that. You want me to believe that he went to nearly every known pantheon and absorbed their powers with shits and giggles? Even with all that power he was blocked by a few skyfathers of earth from seeing them. That's what we call an outside amp.



I'm not, but you seem pretty desperate there with hand waving. Yeah, we do. Beat me, thanos is going to use it next month.



By an outside amp. AM did with just his own power. Good one, come back to me when he can finally beat Iceman.


You can walk outside anytime buddy. Not really but it surely shows the infinite power of oblivion. Yeah, go ahead and prove the retcon.

Its one of his few showings altogether. CK did it with a huge outside amp and it can't be directly applied to oblivion anyway.

Originally posted by Igniz
Wow I find Irony in your post.You keep using the Iceman incedent to prove Oblivion would lose to COIE Anti-Monitor but refuse to accept the current issue about Oblivion were it was shown that Chaos King is just an aspect of Oblivion.You use low showing against Marvel Characters when it suits your argument.You did it in this thread by the way. You think I'm serious with all this Iceman vs oblivion thing? CK did what he did with an outside amp and it can't be directly attributed with oblivion. Yeah, I used a direct statement from the character like you are doing here.



You still angry over that?

I never said the team would beat odin. I was just countering the extreme wankery of odin. Where does I say that CK isn't an aspect of oblivion? CK did it gradually and he was getting more powerful as he absorbed the universes and other pantheons. AM did it almost at once and destroyed almost infinite universes save 5 which is much better than sparing .2 % of multiverse. Yeah CK got punched out by a skyfather and AM beat a fully backed spectre amped on a 5-d imp you know the same guys who play with multiverse like a toy. Yeah when he was a mere aspect of oblivion by this retcon, wouldn't you say? Either marvel's TOAA is a little ***** or great beasts are abstracts, choose one.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Great Beasts
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Battles
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Chaos King & Slave God Army
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Chaos King: Alpha Flight #1:
Here the Great Beasts do something no other pantheon does in the entire Choas War series. They take on the Chaos King and his army...and nearly defeat him. They even did that when they wern't even at full power yet as it takes them 20 minutes on Earth to regain their full power. If they wern't betrayed by Snowbird they very may have defeated the Chaos King. We will never know though.

1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight005.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight006.jpg
3. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight007.jpg
4. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight008.jpg
5. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight009.jpg
6. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight010.jpg
7. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight011.jpg
8. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight012.jpg
9. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight013.jpg
10. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight014.jpg
11. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight015-16.jpg
12. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight017-18.jpg
13. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight019.jpg
14. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight020.jpg
15. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight021.jpg
16. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight022.jpg
17. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight023.jpg

We can speculate all we want, doesn't changes a thing. CK was hugely amped and his feats can't be transferred to oblivion directly.
Well at least this didn't happen to COIE anti-monitor

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4976/ice14dz5.jpg

You guys are just hilarious btw. I don't blame you though, marvel has that affect on people especially their garbage characters which are in majority in comparison to their good characters. Enjoy phoenix five after Thor corps aka Crap itself. Oh and bring your pom-poms next time.

Originally posted by abhilegend













Go cheerleaders. Have you brought your pom-poms, girls? You use double standards and are being called on it. I love how you ignore all other showings and go back to the following one. That's fine. The Am was beaten down in his biggest heyday by Supergirl and the Flash. In Sc War he was unable to destroy Sodam Yat a random gl daxamite. That's the norm with Am; apparently. The only reason the Am wasn't killed directly is because it used an outside amp through the heroes which tied their fates to his. But since you want to rely on one showing alone I will apply the same to other characters just for you since you reap what you sow.

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4976/ice14dz5.jpg

You guys are just hilarious btw. I don't blame you though, marvel has that affect on people especially their garbage characters which are in majority in comparison to their good characters. Enjoy phoenix five after Thor corps aka Crap itself. Oh and bring your pom-poms next time.

Will this happened to Anti-Monitor after COIE.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9384/am1fe2.th.jpg

As compared to CK.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/HercPunchesCK1.jpg?t=1303265421
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/HercpunchesCK2.jpg?t=1303265490
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ChaosKingsentintheContinuum.jpg?t=1303265604
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/ChaosKingcontent.jpg?t=1303265656

So CK didn't die like Anti-Monitor.Nor did Oblivion died.This would mean Death has jurisdiction over Anti-Monitor while both CK and Oblivion are exempted.BTW I brought that thread to prove that calling someone a "fanboy" yet you also act like one.Using low showings after all is banned in this forum, yet you continue to do so in favor of the other side.Quan was right to say you use double standards.You're calling us bias yet you're the only one who is acting as such by using low showings to prove a point.And when I showed the scans in CW:X-men you posted the Great Beasts scans.What does that prove?That mungi is overhyping the Great Beasts.The Great Beasts wouldn't last 20 seconds if CK was really there.The fact remains CK wasn't really there but only his slave Gods and minions was there.And mungi still insisted that CK was there?The Chaos King was busy munching on the other Pantheons and their realms before he popped out of no where to kill the Great Beasts.My point on showing the scans in CW:X-men was to point out that it took a lot to stop the Chaos King.Also the thread I brought up isn't the only proof that you use double standards.Posting that Great Beasts scan in order to disprove my point just makes you look more foolish.Oh yeah post the whole SuperGod Herc fight with CK.Lets see who will be more foolish?You insisted it was a stalemate.A lot of people know Herc was getting his ass handed to him by CK anyways.Also how is

5 universes left>>>than 1.24% of the Multiverse

So is the 1.24% of the Marvel Multiverse 6,7,8 or 10 Universes left?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, we're back to square one for her feats. Anytime she gets beat is her manifestation and otherwise its really her. Wow, that's convenient and that never stopped any of the marvel wankers to accept the darkseid retcon of final crisis.

Did Strange beat her? No. He disperse her for a moment. Strange using all Vishanti to disperse her form for a moment and you think AM can beat her? Lol. By that same token Super Girl nearly kill AM. Death would wreck AM. She did one-shot Walker who's far more powerful than Super Girl. See what I did there?



First off, she wrecked everything including the Galactus Engine. So your point is mute. She stomped them all.

Secondly The Galactus Engine is nothing but a corpse of Galactus. Who do you think killed Galactus and is powering the engine or amped Mar-Vell? Go read the part where the abstracts were barely holding back the Engine and they detected LARGER AND MORE POWER ENTITIES following behind the Galactus Engine. There are beings more powerful than the Engine which took a host of Celestial beings to hold back BARELY. Death killed them all, Engine included.



Oblivion is the void of establish and confirmed by abstracts like Eternity, Death, and Infinity. What's there to prove? Chaos King was one aspect, not some form Oblivion took. CK is in a contained universe while Oblivion is free in the latest showing. The Japanese beat a fraction of Oblivion and you try to pass that off as Oblivion? They didn't beat Oblivion. Show me them beating Oblivion? Even if he wasn't infinite, a mere fraction of Oblivion did the same thing AM did.




Already explained by Chaos War that he was weakened when they found him and thus able to trap him in the Yomi. The entire read of Chaos War was about him gaining his lost powers back. For someone who read Chaos War, you seem to have missed the entire arcs point.




Go ahead and show me the entire thing. I want to see this stalemate. Don't leave anything out now.



WTH? I don't care what you believe. The books showed him killing and absorbing every know pantheon. He didn't see the skyfathers because he wasn't omniscient. He wasn't all powerful by that point. Hell, even at his height AM wasn't omniscience. So he couldn't see the skyfather. And?



So the Anti-Monitor didn't get an amp by consuming those universes? WTF? If that's the case, we can use AM at the beginning where he got an ass beating by Super Girl against a team of Oblivion, Death, Kubik, Shaper of Worlds, Odin, Dormammu, Thanos, Warlock, Mephisto, etc.



And? We don't know the circumstances of how they will explain or not explain how it's able to work. My point is still valid for now.



Lol. It's been explained that Mikaboshi is an aspect of the void from which everything sprang. Chaos War was about him reabsorbing everything back into his being to regain his void self. It's not an outside amp when he's merely taking back what was his. And are you saying AM didn't absorb positive matter to gain more powerful? That's exactly what the Chaos King was doing.



AM did the same thing. I guess AM got outside amp too. But guess what? Let's take those amps out and pit AM against Warlock's team. What's AM going to do? Disperse Death for a minute only for her to kill him like she did the against an entire universe of gods? Without amp AM was getting wrecked by Super Girl. lol.




That's like saying the Green Lanterns nearly defeated the Black Lanterns so it means they came close to defeating Nekron. This is silly since the GL and the other Corps were getting handled when Nekron shows up. The Beast fought fodders and thought they were winning until CK shows up. Then they got their shit pushed by CK. It wasn't even a fight when CK showed up. You're silliness is just a tragedy.

Adam and team takes this with ease.

Bump

Warlock and team win.

Shuma eats AM

Superman wins

Originally posted by abhilegend
Considering this isn't MU so being nullified and sent to obilivion's realm is out of the way and the avatar of death thanos was reduced to a skeleton by an anti matter mine, I don't think being made immortal by Death is going to do anything here. Thanos was in a weakend state when the anti matter killed him or due you ignore that context.

Oh wait never mind it's you ffs

Lol at the Iceman scan.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Lol at the Iceman scan.
It's even funnier when you realize Oblivion was just playing a game with Iceman :
http://s12.postimg.org/4lz2epert/plan.jpg
It was all for love! Then Oblivion gets with his own daughter! Oblivion keepin' it in the family (yes this really happened! LOL).

Originally posted by zopzop
It's even funnier when you realize Oblivion was just playing a game with Iceman :
http://s12.postimg.org/4lz2epert/plan.jpg
It was all for love! Then Oblivion gets with his own daughter! Oblivion keepin' it in the family (yes this really happened! LOL).

Originally posted by zopzop
It's even funnier when you realize Oblivion was just playing a game with Iceman
That's part of the reason why I am loling at it. That and the fact that it is so hilariously posted out of context, just like the scans surrounding the Silver Surfer's interaction with a couple of Mexicans in other threads.