Parenting A Crime?
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Nietzschean
this is what they were arrested for although the kid makes other claims as well.
lets talk about what punishments are acceptable to you and shouldnt be a crime.
discuss
A Florida mother and a father are in jail after they allegedly forced their daughter to run laps with nothing to drink and made her stand on one leg for two hours as punishment, officials said.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/06/12088673-police-parents-made-daughter-run-laps-stand-on-one-leg-for-two-hours?lite
Robtard
"told police that her parents made her hold a weight for two hours while standing on one leg as punishment."
That's strength-conditioning, bra.
Nietzschean
Originally posted by Robtard
"told police that her parents made her hold a weight for two hours while standing on one leg as punishment."
That's strength-conditioning, bra. yeh. My mom paid a Korean MA Master tons of money a month so he could do that to me.

Symmetric Chaos
I think endangering the lives of children should be a very serious crime no matter what rhetoric you try to hide it behind but apparently that makes me a fascist.
Nietzschean
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think endangering the lives of children should be a very serious crime no matter what rhetoric you try to hide it behind but apparently that makes me a fascist. I thought that was just being a liberal or simply pussified?

ArtificialGlory
What's the phrase? I believe it goes something like "Cruel and unusual punishment."
Nietzschean
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
What's the phrase? I believe it goes something like "Cruel and unusual punishment." what I want to know is what is usual uncruel punishment and why?

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Nietzschean
what I want to know is what is usual uncruel punishment and why?
It's like when Bubba makes you run laps around the prison block after(before?) he romances you while making you stand on one leg. Or something like that.
inimalist
Originally posted by Nietzschean
what I want to know is what is usual uncruel punishment and why?
hold on, I might be confused, but you aren't doing a bit?
you are defending the parents?
dadudemon
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think endangering the lives of children should be a very serious crime no matter what rhetoric you try to hide it behind but apparently that makes me a fascist.
Nah. You're obviously right. I'd be interested in hearing/reading about those that you speak against.
Bardock42
Originally posted by inimalist
hold on, I might be confused, but you aren't doing a bit?
you are defending the parents?
He's obviously doing some sort of bit.
alltoomany
who knows the REAL story, kids lie
Scarlet Fox
I remember when you could spank a child in public with a switch and not get in trouble for it... Or what about that movie Abduction? The father beat the shit out of his son, with him fighting back of course. Why cant we just keep the old ways? Thats why many adults these days are not whiney pricks like the young adults and teenagers these days. Cause they got the shit smacked out of them for whining about a toy in the store or running around yelling for no reason.
These days you see mothers trying to shush thier child with soft words while the child screams out loud just because he can while they are in a store or other public place.
Not to mention if THAT is considered child abuse then why can Gym teachers, who are not the parents of the kids, tell you to run laps or give push ups when you do something wrong? At least when I was still in school they could. And if they changed that so they cant do that anymore then I say America is turning into pussies!
Robtard
Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
I remember when you could spank a child in public with a switch and not get in trouble for it...
Your profile says you were born in 1988.
Scarlet Fox
Originally posted by Robtard
Your profile says you were born in 1988.
http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/creepsmile.gif
Made ya look..
but I know thats how it was back in the day because my daddy would tell me stories about when he was younger. And I can witness the crap parenting going on today.
Lord Lucien
We Canadians never gave up corporal punishment. In fact we enhanced it. Unfortunately one of our experiments--one Christopher le Brun--escaped and has been running amok in our pants (aka America).
Scarlet Fox
It does kind of look like funky pants... o.o
Ascendancy
Arresting them seems more than unnecessary. I loved the clip on Southland where the kid called the cops on his mom for using a belt on him and the cop told him that if it happened again he'd show up and administer the belting himself.
Tzeentch._
Where is this notion that children were more well-behaved "back in the day" coming from? Westside Story, the Warriors, Grease, the Outsiders etc are all iconic movies that were basically commentary on how kids in the 50's-80's were all badass little shits who stole, robbed people, beat the shit out of people and killed each other on a pretty regular basis. Totally regardless of the fact that beating your kid was socially respectable back then.
edit- Which isn't to say that I'm not an advocate of hitting kids- there's a lot of brats that I see being brats and think "that kids needs a beating". However, I think the problem with kids today is the same problem that kids have always had, which is that parents simply need to pay more attention to their kids and not roll-over whenever they start acting like a brat. My grandmother beat my dad and his siblings so badly that she got arrested for child abuse in the 70's, lol. Didn't stop most of them from growing up to be shitheads.
Lord Lucien
Kids were never "better behaved", but I think they were a little more afraid.
Silent_Bomber
Reminds me of the time when me and my whole class in school had to kneel on the floor with our backs straight and our hands behind our heads without moving for 20 minutes, its was a lot worse than it sounds. Utterly horrible.
Teachers with imagination got around the whole outlawing of corporal punishment thing, though what she did would probably be illegal now too (heck it could well have been illegal at the time, this was only the early/mid 90s).
dadudemon
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Where is this notion that children were more well-behaved "back in the day" coming from? Westside Story, the Warriors, Grease, the Outsiders etc are all iconic movies that were basically commentary on how kids in the 50's-80's were all badass little shits who stole, robbed people, beat the shit out of people and killed each other on a pretty regular basis. Totally regardless of the fact that beating your kid was socially respectable back then.
edit- Which isn't to say that I'm not an advocate of hitting kids- there's a lot of brats that I see being brats and think "that kids needs a beating". However, I think the problem with kids today is the same problem that kids have always had, which is that parents simply need to pay more attention to their kids and not roll-over whenever they start acting like a brat. My grandmother beat my dad and his siblings so badly that she got arrested for child abuse in the 70's, lol. Didn't stop most of them from growing up to be shitheads.
Teachers of 40+ years disagree with you, of course.
Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by dadudemon
Teachers of 40+ years disagree with you, of course.
An analysis of the history of child crime reveals that children of "today" have always been the worst. If you believe people in general we've been in the midst of an ever rising tide of child criminals since the US was founded.
Tzeentch._
Originally posted by dadudemon
Teachers of 40+ years disagree with you, of course. I'm sure they do. And when I'm 40+ I'm sure I'll be bitching and moaning about how bratty kids are these days and how "back in myyyyy day" this and that and that and this.
Mortality brings out the fewlishness in us all.
Robtard
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
I'm sure they do. And when I'm 40+ I'm sure I'll be bitching and moaning about how bratty kids are these days and how "back in myyyyy day" this and that and that and this.
Mortality brings out the fewlishness in us all.
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Peach
The whole "kids these days are horrible" trope's been going on since, well, ancient times.
http://quotationsbook.com/quote/44998/
And considering the number of horrifically behaved adults I see on a daily basis...not exactly inclined to believe that children actually behaved any better 30 years ago or whatever.
Anyway, making a child run laps for two hours with nothing to drink? That's not just abuse, but endangerment.
Cyner
Reminds me that when I was young and pissed off my mother enough she would discipline me in public. If I cried she would say "stop crying before I give you something to really cry about". Lulzy as hell now that I think about it. Hispanic moms are the best.
Ascendancy
Originally posted by Cyner
Reminds me that when I was young and pissed off my mother enough she would discipline me in public. If I cried she would say "stop crying before I give you something to really cry about". Lulzy as hell now that I think about it. Hispanic moms are the best.
Pssh, that's an all moms' thing. Definitely heard that one more than once.
Yurika
Poor parents, though they have good intention, but they do it in a wrong way.
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