Obama makes Immigration Reforms

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Lestov16
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/15/obama-administration-to-offer-immunity-to-younger-immigrants/

Obama's got the Latino vote now. Can you still hang, Romney?

Shakyamunison
Now all Obama has to do is legalize pot and he wins.

inimalist
Romney never had the Latino vote

like the gay marriage announcement, this will have little impact on the election

Symmetric Chaos
As much sympathy as I have for immigrants I have a real problem with decisions like this. The process of legal immigration is ridiculous. This seems like a slap in the face to everyone who spent the time and money to immigrate legally.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by inimalist
Romney never had the Latino vote

like the gay marriage announcement, this will have little impact on the election

Obama is only shoring up his base. It seems a little late in the game to be doing that.

inimalist
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Obama is only shoring up his base. It seems a little late in the game to be doing that.

he might motivate the base a little more if he stopped bragging about flying murder robots and due process free kill lists

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by inimalist
he might motivate the base a little more if he stopped bragging about flying murder robots and due process free kill lists

A lot of his supporter don't even know about that. For example, my in-laws are big Obama supporters, when I asked them what they thought of the kill list, they didn't know what I was talking about.

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
As much sympathy as I have for immigrants I have a real problem with decisions like this. The process of legal immigration is ridiculous. This seems like a slap in the face to everyone who spent the time and money to immigrate legally.

I was just thinking that.

Perhaps I should go there and squat in the country illegally instead of wasting precious time and money going through proper channels.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I was just thinking that.

Perhaps I should go there and squat in the country illegally instead of wasting precious time and money going through proper channels.

Well, I have a cottage you can use, but you will have to do my yard work for me. stick out tongue

lil bitchiness
Noooooooooo!!




Ok, then, I guess I haven't got much choice. sad

Robtard
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Perhaps I should go there and squat in the country illegally instead of wasting precious time and money going through proper channels.

You can come to my house and squat on my face.

lil bitchiness
Illegal face squatting. Sounds kinky.

Robtard
Come on down.

P.S. You must shower first, there are rules, this isn't Nam.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Robtard
Come on down.

P.S. You must shower first, there are rules, this isn't Nam.

Your not a real man. stick out tongue laughing

Nemesis X
This is why I've never voted. If I did, I'd feel a bit responsible helping morons like him running our nation. While some people have to spend money to move in here, we get people jumping over a fence and it's free for them and the government think it's now okay even though again, some others have to pay to get in. How frikkin hypocritical is that?

RE: Blaxican
Originally posted by Nemesis X
This is why I've never voted. I'm pretty sure the reason why you haven't voted is because up until recently you haven't been old enough to do so legally.

socool8520
Originally posted by Nemesis X
This is why I've never voted. If I did, I'd feel a bit responsible helping morons like him running our nation. While some people have to spend money to move in here, we get people jumping over a fence and it's free for them and the government think it's now okay even though again, some others have to pay to get in. How frikkin hypocritical is that?

Apparently not. Just come over here and be a good person and it doesn't matter if it's a fence or an ocean as I understand.

Although I would prefer the immigrants to come legally, at least Obama is trying to keep the ones who are going to be an asset to our country. Now if he would just pass a law to send anyone who has committed serious crimes to be removed from the country, we would be in excellent shape.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, I have a cottage you can use, but you will have to do my yard work for me. stick out tongue

WTF?

Okay, I will see your "yard-work" and throw in some "general repairs."

When can I take a vacation to this cottage and where is it located?




I am NOT joking. no expression





Edit - On topic, there needs to be immigration reform. Obama also needs to do more than just legalize MJ if he wants my vote.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Noooooooooo!!




Ok, then, I guess I haven't got much choice. sad
There's a nice, spacious, unused Osprey nest in the pine tree next to my house.

Nietzschean
hilarious.
it dont bother me at all, I still wont vote for him.
In all honesty their isnt really an immigration problem and most of it is based solely on racism. Penn and Teller did an episode on this which I watched last night.
big grin

Contrary to what ppl believe illegal immigrants dont actually take jobs from your average american and is just BS excuses to try and keep none anglo european out of america. The U.S. has had a long history of doing this with various ethnic groups while making exceptions for certain groups.

Darth Truculent
All hail the King!

Obama has violated the Constitution time and time again. He is running around acting like he's king. First the Health Care law, making concession after concession on national defense (ie Russia and Missile Defense), supporting the Occupy Movement which now has turned into little more than anarchy, Immigration Reform and now yesterday he abused his executive powers to save Eric Holder's corrupt AG office. He must be removed from office before he turns the United States into the 'United Socialist States of America.'

I'm a loyal servant to a free and democratic America and to the belief that all have a fair shake at become successful from birth. Never punish the man or woman who is successful at work or whatever they do. This share the wealth ideals has never worked in history and now is being tried in the U.S. - we are setting ourselves up for failure.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
All hail the King!

Obama has violated the Constitution time and time again. He is running around acting like he's king. First the Health Care law, making concession after concession on national defense (ie Russia and Missile Defense), supporting the Occupy Movement which now has turned into little more than anarchy, Immigration Reform and now yesterday he abused his executive powers to save Eric Holder's corrupt AG office. He must be removed from office before he turns the United States into the 'United Socialist States of America.' I'm a loyal servant to a free and democratic America. Not a President who is Socialist.
You don't know what a socialist is if you think Obama is socialist.

Edit: And this isn't a reform, this is a measure. A reform would be streamlining the immigration process so that the legal route of immigration isn't so needlessly long and difficult.

Darth Truculent
Hmm . . . I studied Socialism in college so yes I DO know what Socialism is! I was FORCED to study it by a radical professor. Europe is a socialist state right? Complete entitlements, free health care, the wealthy over taxed, etc etc etc. Why do you think Greece is falling apart? The state cannot . . . care for everyone. I would use stronger language, but I would be banned.

Tell me, would you want to pay for the neighbors kid to go to school, doctor bills? I sure as hell I DON'T want to. That's what's happening in Europe and if weren't careful, that's gonna happen here. If you want a nanny state, move to France, Greece or pay for your neighbors kids bills.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Hmm . . . I studied Socialism in college so yes I DO know what Socialism is! I was FORCED to study it by a radical professor. Europe is a socialist state right? Complete entitlements, free health care, the wealthy over taxed, etc etc etc. Why do you think Greece is falling apart? The state cannot . . . care for everyone. I would use stronger language, but I would be banned.

There is no "Europe". There's the European Union, but it isn't a single state. The fact you were "forced" to study socialism tells me that you didn't look at it with an open mind and that you probably didn't retain much of what you "learned".

Greece's problems aren't an indictment of socialism as an economic model anymore than the current American recession is an indictment of capitalism.

Germany has a market economy (much closer to socialism than Obama's system) and they're doing great right now.

I couldn't really care less about taxing the wealthy. No private citizen needs more than a hundred million dollars. For every Buffet or Gates there are a dozen misers that don't give back except for tax writeoffs.


Sure, if I had the money. Shouldn't neighbors help neighbors?

inimalist
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
All hail the King!

Obama has violated the Constitution time and time again. He is running around acting like he's king. First the Health Care law, making concession after concession on national defense (ie Russia and Missile Defense), supporting the Occupy Movement which now has turned into little more than anarchy, Immigration Reform and now yesterday he abused his executive powers to save Eric Holder's corrupt AG office. He must be removed from office before he turns the United States into the 'United Socialist States of America.'

I'm a loyal servant to a free and democratic America and to the belief that all have a fair shake at become successful from birth. Never punish the man or woman who is successful at work or whatever they do. This share the wealth ideals has never worked in history and now is being tried in the U.S. - we are setting ourselves up for failure.

http://americanextremists.thecomicseries.com/images/comics/55/2d09f0eca28aa43daf344a4e27623cef1674197071.png

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Hmm . . . I studied Socialism in college so yes I DO know what Socialism is! I was FORCED to study it by a radical professor. Europe is a socialist state right? Complete entitlements, free health care, the wealthy over taxed, etc etc etc. Why do you think Greece is falling apart? The state cannot . . . care for everyone. I would use stronger language, but I would be banned.

lol, I see your Europe and raise you Canada

/sigh

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Tell me, would you want to pay for the neighbors kid to go to school, doctor bills?

ummm, yes. omfg yes. If I could afford it, I would send every child without the means to school, and I would find it a personal flaw to not provide medical support to someone who is unable to afford it themselves.

is your argument really "burn the ****ing social contract"?

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
I sure as hell I DON'T want to. That's what's happening in Europe and if weren't careful, that's gonna happen here. If you want a nanny state, move to France, Greece or pay for your neighbors kids bills.

and Republicans have the audacity to claim to be the "moral majority"

how do you find trousers with enough support in the seams to contain your obviously massive testicles?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Tell me, would you want to pay for the neighbors kid to go to school, doctor bills? I sure as hell I DON'T want to.

Well I wouldn't mind barring Ron Paul's desperately ill grandchildren from my privately owned hospital just to see how he reacts but other than that yeah I'd pay for my neighbor's doctor bills if I was a multimillionare and they didn't have the means. Though since you're presumably referring to taxes I'd really only be paying for a small portion of the cost, and education and the protection of "the common welfare" are the kind of things I believe government has a responsibility to provide as best it can.

Lestov16
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-widens-lead-among-swing-state-latinos-145351202.html

I knew it!

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