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Batman vs. Guile

Fight takes place on an US Air Force Base. Guile's theme is playing on infinite loop.

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Who wins?

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How could Guile possibly lose?

He's a man who has it all.

Guile would stomp Batman without prep.

He's on par with Chun-Li, who can destroy city blocks, and in the Alpha comics he was destroying cliff-sides with Sonic Booms and Flash Kicks alongside Charlie.

Canon-wise. Not really sure cause unlik Ryu or Akuma, he doesn't have huge ingame cinematics detailing his abilities and stats.

Not sure about comics though, but if he's on par with Chun-Li, then that means he's pretty much inhuman when it comes to MA and physical attributes. Wouldn't discount Batman though.

Yea, all the Street Fighter characters are superhuman to various extent. Guile's not top-tier, but like Chun Li he's still really solid and could spar with Charlie (who is rather uber) for hours at a time in the udon comic.

Batman'd really need prep against someone who's Guile tough, strong, and fast.

Guile.

lolzz a video game character versus a comic book character... video game characters are controlled by those who choose which characters they want to win and since in a forum fight that should not come into purview so Batman should not have any problems

Guile still has feats independent of "player performance", as evidenced by canon Street Fighter comics and movies.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lolzz a video game character versus a comic book character... video game characters are controlled by those who choose which characters they want to win and since in a forum fight that should not come into purview so Batman should not have any problems http://www.lahoradelbreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/facepalm.gif

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lolzz a video game character versus a comic book character... video game characters are controlled by those who choose which characters they want to win and since in a forum fight that should not come into purview so Batman should not have any problems

Pssst.....don't tell anyone else as this is a high level secret, but Street Fighter comics have existed for years.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Batman vs. Guile

Fight takes place on an US Air Force Base. Guile's theme is playing on infinite loop.

jLJLyneZGKc

Who wins?

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Batman should go home and be a family man, Robin is waiting.

Better fight would be Guile vs. Cap.

Bruce (especially the current incarnation) gets annihilated.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Batman should go home and be a family man, Robin is waiting.

Dammit, you beat me to it.

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Flash Kick FTW

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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First one is from Street Fighter 2 V I believe. Pretty old movie.

The second one, dunno.

He better not have lost to Juri...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Batman vs. Guile

Fight takes place on an US Air Force Base. Guile's theme is playing on infinite loop.

jLJLyneZGKc

Who wins?

Guile's BGM applies to everything.How can Batman win?

Guile stomps

Originally posted by CosmicComet
First one is from Street Fighter 2 V I believe. Pretty old movie.

The second one, dunno.

He better not have lost to Juri...

Super Street Fighter IV OAV

She did, but Juri is a beast, thanks to the chi-boosting from her eye. She jams it into overdrive and takes him out.


Here's the english dub of the OAV trailer. You can see some of her crazy feats.

The flash kick is invincible the first few frames of animation, fireballs will even go through him like a ghost within these frames. TOAA can't even stop Guile within the first frames of the flashkick.

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The regular Flash Kick sucks ass 131

Originally posted by CosmicComet
First one is from Street Fighter 2 V I believe. Pretty old movie.

The second one, dunno.

He better not have lost to Juri... Juri is really powerful. It would have been bullshit if she lost to Guile.

She's on par with characters like Rose or Seth, and just under the true titans of SF like Akuma.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Juri is really powerful. It would have been bullshit if she lost to Guile.

She's on par with characters like Rose or Seth, and just under the true titans of SF like Akuma. Juri is a beast. There is no shame in losing to her.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/sonicboom.gif I really like that movie, it's not some "Hey Ryu, you're the main hero beat the final boss all alone" type of shit at the end.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I really like that movie, it's not some "Hey Ryu, you're the main hero beat the final boss all alone" type of shit at the end.

Yeah Bison was the bomb in that movie.

And Guile wins in a no prep street fight. The Udon characters had massive collateral damage with their moves. Though I can't remember Guile doing any crazy ones. I remember Charlie slicing a cliff in half though with a summersault kick.

And BISON!

Originally posted by NemeBro
Juri is really powerful. It would have been bullshit if she lost to Guile.

She's on par with characters like Rose or Seth, and just under the true titans of SF like Akuma.

I know and don't give a shit.

Juri is shit. As is every character that came after Street Fighter 2.

you've haven't lived if you don't savor landing this super as your opponent thinks they've won the match

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
I know and don't give a shit.

Juri is shit. As is every character that came after Street Fighter 2.

Said like a true hater.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I know and don't give a shit.

Juri is shit. As is every character that came after Street Fighter 2. Have you considered the possibility that you just have bad taste?

2012 is KOF season anyway

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come at me

Originally posted by psycho gundam
2012 is KOF season anyway

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come at me Amalgam of Ryu and E. Honda?

nah, he's judo master Goro Daimon

my current team:

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
2012 is KOF season anyway

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come at me looks like he honking boobs.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
nah, he's judo master Goro Daimon

my current team:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/kdash.gif http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/maxima.gif http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/goro-daimon.gif While Maxima made it on my team, Terry Bogard and King > the other two son.

Terry "the Dickpuncher" Bogard solos in fact.

terry and king are for noobs, beating someone with goro daimon is highly respectable

If you're a pussy I guess.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

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come at me

Guile would beat Batman, but he would lose to Captain America.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Guile would beat Batman, but he would lose to Captain America.

Guile's quite a bit stronger than Capt too.

I doubt that, but I only read the first 5 issues of the udon comics. So...

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Originally posted by Zack Fair
I doubt that, but I only read the first 5 issues of the udon comics. So...

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Ok, so, these scans will be Chun Li vs Cammy, because that's what I've got. But Chun Li is about as strong as Guile, so they should give you an idea.

To start with, Chun tackles Cammy from a 3 story window. Both fine of course. Not the impressive bit yet.

Cammy then cannon spikes Chun Li OVER the buildings, I dunno, maybe some 40 foot in the air or more.

Chun Li shakes it off, goes on the offensive, and Unleashes a chi blast that destroys three cars and shatters the parking lot underneath

No-one is KOed during this battle, just hurt, and Cammy is not known for her toughness among SF characters. I don't think Capt's ever sent someone flying 40 feet *strait up* with a blow either.


And for the higher power types, Bison One-shots T-Hawk, then Rose blasts Bison into an office building so hard it collapses. Bison is not taken out by this. Charlie, who Guile spars with, did temporarily take out Bison.

IIRC Guile actually had the more impressive showing against Juri, compared to Chun-Li.

Really, Streetfighter characters are all quite a bit above the vast majority of comic peak humans, barring ridiculous examples like Karate Kid.

That's what irks me. What's up with these Naruto/Street Fighter vs peak human threads? I get the whole martial arts angle, but there's gotta be better matchups. It seems like these threads would be more even if we actually picked low or mid meta comic characters.

Instead we get like.......Akuma vs Catwoman.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
2012 is KOF season anyway

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come at me

Ah yes!Goro "the monster" Daimon He was one of those characters used in competative play because of how damaging his throw moves are.Slow but dangerous to even attempt an offensive against him.The KOF games have been known to have one of the most unfair boss characters(my username is one of those annoying boss characters) and annoying good Goro players and etc

Originally posted by psycho gundam
terry and king are for noobs, beating someone with goro daimon is highly respectable



Goro can be a beast if used right.

Originally posted by StyleTime
That's what irks me. What's up with these Naruto/Street Fighter vs peak human threads? I get the whole martial arts angle, but there's gotta be better matchups. It seems like these threads would be more even if we actually picked low or mid meta comic characters.

Instead we get like.......Akuma vs Catwoman.


Quite. Both SF fighters and Naruto fighters are noticeably and significantly superhuman. They've got high stats and special abilities aside.

Batman has the moves to do the thing where he outs move Guile then he'll punch and kick but Guile will look and then he's not right because Batman used his fighting whereas Guile was like wait what into his face with feet and hands but the hands are closed into fists and the feet are also closed into fists to hit with.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
nah, he's judo master Goro Daimon

my current team:

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Weak ass team

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COME AT ME BRO

When I get home I better be seeing a PSN name in my pm list from you.

I'll show you what's poppin

Originally posted by Mindset
Batman has the moves to do the thing where he outs move Guile then he'll punch and kick but Guile will look and then he's not right because Batman used his fighting whereas Guile was like wait what into his face with feet and hands but the hands are closed into fists and the feet are also closed into fists to hit with.

And then Guile lays Batman out, the end.

Originally posted by StyleTime
That's what irks me. What's up with these Naruto/Street Fighter vs peak human threads? I get the whole martial arts angle, but there's gotta be better matchups. It seems like these threads would be more even if we actually picked low or mid meta comic characters.

Instead we get like.......Akuma vs Catwoman.

I agree. Most peeps didn't read the Udon series or the older Japanese Manga.
Street levelers just don't match up to StreetFighters.

I've read all the Udon comics. Good shit.

Batman also has the option to gadget spam here.

Originally posted by Q99
Ok, so, these scans will be Chun Li vs Cammy, because that's what I've got. But Chun Li is about as strong as Guile, so they should give you an idea.

To start with, Chun tackles Cammy from a 3 story window. Both fine of course. Not the impressive bit yet.

Cammy then cannon spikes Chun Li OVER the buildings, I dunno, maybe some 40 foot in the air or more.

Chun Li shakes it off, goes on the offensive, and Unleashes a chi blast that destroys three cars and shatters the parking lot underneath

No-one is KOed during this battle, just hurt, and Cammy is not known for her toughness among SF characters. I don't think Capt's ever sent someone flying 40 feet *strait up* with a blow either.


And for the higher power types, Bison One-shots T-Hawk, then Rose blasts Bison into an office building so hard it collapses. Bison is not taken out by this. Charlie, who Guile spars with, did temporarily take out Bison.

mmm

So are we using udon comics, the movies, the sf canon or all of them?

As far as I'm concerned SF canon is SF canon.

The Udon comics are officially recognized as canon; animated shows/movies, not so much unless they're the ones that came with the actual games.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif


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Originally posted by Mindset
Batman has the moves to do the thing where he outs move Guile then he'll punch and kick but Guile will look and then he's not right because Batman used his fighting whereas Guile was like wait what into his face with feet and hands but the hands are closed into fists and the feet are also closed into fists to hit with. wut?

lay off the bath salts

Was definitely the valium.

yeah, i didn't want to say anything cause you were completely out of it, now that you're sober we can point and laugh

I don't remember pretty much anything I did after I took them.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
As far as I'm concerned SF canon is SF canon.

The Udon comics are officially recognized as canon; animated shows/movies, not so much unless they're the ones that came with the actual games.

Udon, the most official of the animated flicks (like the SFIV one, which ties in pretty closely with the game), and the biggest of the manga (like the Sakura one, which introduced her *before* the game she came out in to build her up) are pretty close in line with each other, with the Udon coming at the lowest of the three.


Then there's the game itself, which is basically similar, but has the odd high-end feat that stand out from the rest, exclusively by Akuma.

That's where SF power tends to cluster the most. I use Udon, because it has the fewest outliers and, well, it's also really good ^^

When your feats are entirely consistent, they cease being "odd".

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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Stolen.

Guile

I never lost whenever i played as guile at the air-force base

Originally posted by NemeBro
When your feats are entirely consistent, they cease being "odd".

I'd say the sub-sinking and the island smashing still qualifies as 'odd' in comparison to the scale of the other stuff.


In Udon, the biggest feats of area destruction are Charlie's cliff drop and Rose blasting Bison into a building, for example. The manga doesn't have any as big as those two.

Originally posted by Q99
I'd say the sub-sinking and the island smashing still qualifies as 'odd' in comparison to the scale of the other stuff.


In Udon, the biggest feats of area destruction are Charlie's cliff drop and Rose blasting Bison into a building, for example. The manga doesn't have any as big as those two. Both by much weaker characters.

Akuma's feats are consistent with their own, and when scaled off similarly powerful characters like Shin Bison.

Batman easily

Like Nelson Mandela said. " You're gonna look real funny eating corn on the cob with a penis in your mouth."

I think I may have quoted that wrong.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Both by much weaker characters.

Akuma's feats are consistent with their own, and when scaled off similarly powerful characters like Shin Bison.


I don't think even Shin Bison's come close.


The problem I have with Akuma's feats isn't that they're stronger. It's that they're many orders of magnitude stronger than anyone else's, even though the weaker fighters can still fight against him to an extent.



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Though still behind some of the Fighting Evolution ones, wherein Akuma destroys a large astroid headed to Earth, and Rose seals Pyron from Darkstalkers in a card ^^

^ that's non-canon

all of that shit fails in comparison to oni vs Asura

Originally posted by Q99
I don't think even Shin Bison's come close.


The problem I have with Akuma's feats isn't that they're stronger. It's that they're many orders of magnitude stronger than anyone else's, even though the weaker fighters can still fight against him to an extent.

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Though still behind some of the Fighting Evolution ones, wherein Akuma destroys a large astroid headed to Earth, and Rose seals Pyron from Darkstalkers in a card ^^ Shin Bison has survived a nuclear explosion (Albeit he was injured pretty badly), and can destroy cities with the Psycho Drive.

Name one weaker character who can stand against Akuma at all. Keep in mind that Ryu only "beat" Akuma in SFA2 because Akuma was, as always, holding back.

Really... It's fairly natural progression. Chun-Li can destroy a city block with a kikouken, and it required a team of Chunny-lite characters and stronger beating on him over prolonged periods and shit to really put down Bison. Plus the aforementioned nuclear explosion.

To use an example you would be familiar with, let's say Setsuna from Negima is roughly the equivelant in relative portrayal to Chun-Li. Setsuna can destroy, at best, a fairly large building under her own power. Now let's compare that to Jack Rakan. Who vaporises a mountain accidently with a joke attack. Jack Rakan being roughly Akuma tier in portrayal.

Akuma is portrayed as one of, if not the strongest Street Fighter character. Him being able to destroy mountains or islands when those much weaker can only destroy city blocks isn't that outlandish, IMHO.

quick question, where does ryu rate in the overall street fighter power ranking? How is he compared to akuma, bison, or juri?

Originally posted by emporerpants
quick question, where does ryu rate in the overall street fighter power ranking? How is he compared to akuma, bison, or juri?

Ryu without the Satsui No Hadou is one of the "elites", but not on the level of Akuma or Bison, let alone their "Shin" forms.

could ryu take juri?

I think he could, yeah.

Alright, awesome, thanks!

Juri will whoop Juri's ass until he goes Evil Ryu.

As tough as Ryu is I don't see him soloing the dolls and oneshotting Chun, Guile and Cammy.

Juri will whoop Ryu's ass^

facepalm

Originally posted by emporerpants
could ryu take juri? Maybe. He beat Seth after all.

SFIII Ryu should crush Juri.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Maybe. He beat Seth after all.

SFIII Ryu should crush Juri.

Yeah SF3 Ryu would.

Originally posted by emporerpants
quick question, where does ryu rate in the overall street fighter power ranking? How is he compared to akuma, bison, or juri?

He, Ken, Guile, and Chun-Li are in a main character lump, with him at the top of it, but any of them can give any other of them a great fight.

So the boss characters rate higher.

However by SFIII (which takes place years later), he does reach boss-tier level and could beat Juri, Bison's weaker forms, etc. strait up.



There's an official SFIV vid of Ryu and Ken working together and fighting him.



She didn't destroy a city block, she destroyed a half-dozen cars and the grown beneath them.


Here's the thing- if the big feats were correct, then he'd literally be worth over a thousand Ryu/Ken/Guile/etc.. None of their attacks should be able to scratch him.

That's the difference in scale we're talking about.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Maybe. He beat Seth after all.

SFIII Ryu should crush Juri.



I think Juri would give SFIV Ryu a fight, but once he focused and tapped into the Power of Nothingness, he'd beat her down.

As far as I can tell Ryu doesn't tap into the power of nothingness. Could be wrong though. Never cared enough to mind the details in SF story.

Both Ryu and Ken do to a certain degree, but nowhere to the level of Gouken.

Really? Where was this stated? I think they should be able to, but are they even aware of this power?

Both Ryu and Ken tap into it in the SFIV movie. Ryu's looking for a power better than the Satsui no Hadou and taps into said power during his battle with Seth. Ken taps into a similar power when he no-sells C. Viper. It's not outright stated, but heavily implied that both of them tapped into the Power of Nothingness in their respective scenes.

Hmm I was told Ryu didn't tap into the power of nothingness but instead was actually using the Satsui No Hadou. They backed up their claim with the color of Ryu's hadoken, it was purple same as the metsu hadoken in the game. mmm

I prefer your theory though.

Nah, I don't really believe it was the Satsui no Hadou.

The fact that Ryu was calm, cool, and collected, completely in control, and his eyes glowed a faint blue before his Ki level showed up as an endless number of zeroes on Seth's charts leads me to think he tapped into the Power of Nothingness. The color thing is a good point, but really, given the scene itself, I don't think the intent was to have Ryu state how his desire for power was nothing like Seth's own and want to rid the world of that kind of evil then tap into evil itself to beat him.

Well then going by your theory...Juri beats Ryu's ass until he taps into the power of nothingness and/or Satsui No Hadou. And even then I see her giving him a lot of trouble.

On a sidenote I think Juri is superior to Seth. hmm

Originally posted by Q99
There's an official SFIV vid of Ryu and Ken working together and fighting him.

And not defeating him.

And oh yes, he was holding back.

Akuma effortlessly beat and would have killed Seth (Seth doesn't have a soul, which saved him), who utterly dominated Ryu.



Who said anything about the Cammy fight?

Chun-Li created a huge crater while fighting M. Bison, see here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=772385

That said, the scaling for the area destroyed is a bit flawed, since... Guile isn't nearly two meters tall, he's 5'11".

Still though, that crater is huge, yet Bison created a blast which proceeded to eclipse Chun-Li's, which Guile and friends survived. Oh, and do note he was only a little bruised from Chunny's best move. SFIV Bison isn't nearly on the level of SFA3 Bison, who is weaker than Akuma.



Strangely enough, when Ryu fought Seth before tapping into Nothingness, his attacks could not scratch him, and C. Viper's attacks couldn't do shit to Evil Ryu. Curious...

Originally posted by NemeBro

Who said anything about the Cammy fight?

Chun-Li created a huge crater while fighting M. Bison, see here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=772385


Hm, hadn't seen that.

Higher-power than the Udon version, to be sure.

It's okay. I forgive you.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Well then going by your theory...Juri beats Ryu's ass until he taps into the power of nothingness and/or Satsui No Hadou. And even then I see her giving him a lot of trouble.

On a sidenote I think Juri is superior to Seth. hmm

Juri would take out SFIV Ryu, but would get beaten up by SFIII Ryu.

SFIII Ryu = Theoretical Evil Ryu as stated in the SFIII game with Ryu saying somehting like "hey, i've reached that level without the dark hadou" or something like that.