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Both at best and peak who takes this how and why?

Abomination....his highs are better then Thing's highs. Especially Chaos War Abom.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Abomination....his highs are better then Thing's highs. Especially Chaos War Abom.

Isn't that Abomb?

If he means classic Abomination and not Rick Jones, I'd go with Ben. What he lacks in strength, he makes up for in skill and heart. And unlike against Hulk, he can actually wear Abomination down.

One of the main reasons Hulk normally beats him is because he simply doesn't tire and keeps getting stronger.

Yeah, if best and peak means chaos war Abomination then I still have to go with him. He seemed impervious to physical attacks in the scans I saw.

If not, then I would think Abomination still starts a bit higher in strength than Ben? And unless its been retconned, he still has his kgb h2h training to all back on, right? : /

Originally posted by cdtm
Isn't that Abomb?

If he means classic Abomination and not Rick Jones, I'd go with Ben. What he lacks in strength, he makes up for in skill and heart. And unlike against Hulk, he can actually wear Abomination down.

One of the main reasons Hulk normally beats him is because he simply doesn't tire and keeps getting stronger.

No, CW Abomination literally ripped the armor off of A-Bomb. He was taking on Hulk and his allies and they couldnt stop it

Abom's orginal form he was double the strength of Savage Hulk. So no, his highs are way to much for Thing,

Abomination straight up kills Ben without even trying
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The Heart Force will lead Thing to a beautiful, crushing defeat.

War Ben Grimm.

Majority of those scans are Devil Hulk/Bruce Banner's father

Originally posted by -K-M-
Majority of those scans are Devil Hulk/Bruce Banner's father True, I attempted 5 times to click on a Abomination scan...

Can't believe in Marvel history, these two have not fought... I guess Marvel wanted to avoid Abomination jobbing to Thing.

Thing won't go down without a fight. Have anyone seen Thing rock skin throw? It stagger Colossus in the event!

I have no idea why he didnt post the scans when he fought Hulk and his allies, but thats Carver for you.

facepalm

Posted the wrong scans...should have been 'Incredible Hulk 619'. But here we have all of the Hulks pounding on him and after all of this, he is still ok.

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc412/igniz6/IncredibleHulksChaosWar/IncredibleHulks619022.jpg
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Then he straight up overpowers Red She Hulk who imo is stronger than any version of Thing.

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Originally posted by -K-M-
I have no idea why he didnt post the scans when he fought Hulk and his allies, but thats Carver for you.

It was a mistake. I post the scans from Incredible Hulk 620 instead of 619. Error on my part.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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abomination was amped

Originally posted by psycho gundam
abomination was amped

and?

Originally posted by carver9
Posted the wrong scans...should have been 'Incredible Hulk 619'. But here we have all of the Hulks pounding on him and after all of this, he is still ok.

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Then he straight up overpowers Red She Hulk who imo is stronger than any version of Thing.

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He did far more impressive things then that.

Originally posted by -K-M-
and?



He did far more impressive things then that.

I know. I can't find my scans though. Do you have the rest by any chance?

Naaaaaa

Originally posted by -K-M-
and? i was under the impression "peak" was not including outside amps, like power items or power received from another character (for a limited time, or something along those lines). wouldn't thing in this case be the time he was in the worthy?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i was under the impression "peak" was not including outside amps, like power items or power received from another character (for a limited time, or something along those lines). wouldn't thing in this case be the time he was in the worthy?



Peak but only under their own power. External amps dont count. So im giving it to thing.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i was under the impression "peak" was not including outside amps, like power items or power received from another character (for a limited time, or something along those lines). wouldn't thing in this case be the time he was in the worthy?

Peak is the height of the power wether or not is it an amp or not. He kept that power until his death. Regardless if TS wants to go with no amps and doesn't really matter. Abom's classic form was twice the strength of Savage Hulk. He still wins.

Worthy Thing wasn't that great to be honest, he beat Rulk as he was holding back and didnt use his powers. Thor one-shot him and he would have died if it wasnt for Franklin. Spider-Man also took it to him and hurt him on several occasions.

Originally posted by Damborgson


Peak but only under their own power. External amps dont count. So im giving it to thing.

Classic form Abom was twice the strength of Savage Hulk. so no.

Look, I love Ben, I wank him in the highest way and I've done my best to make popular the Heart Force, but in all honesty, Abom would win the majority. Simply put, he's just too physically strong for current Thing, it would be an amazingly, long and hard-fought battle if written correctly in comics -the Abomination that fights Hulk vs the Thing that fights Hulk would be vicious-, but more often than not I'd give it to Abom, in all honesty. He's written like a pushover, but he's no Rhino.

Abom for the majority. Thing has been impressive lately though...going to toe to toe with Namor is impressive.

Originally posted by -K-M-



Classic form Abom was twice the strength of Savage Hulk. so no.


Heartforce at its peak puts him at at least 4x savage hulk. You dont mess with ben you just dont. And anyone who disagrees with me is a communist.

Abomination definitely wins

If by "Peak" you mean the evolved Thing from say 50 years in the future....

Thing takes it.

Spiky Thing would maybe take it too.

Normal Thing gets beaten, although with a good showing. Years of sparring with the Hulk would come in handy.

If this is Pineapple Thing vs Original Abomination (who was twice as strong as Hulk) I give it to Abomination.
If it is normal Thing vs Normal Abomination (slightly above Savage Hulk's base level) I still give Emil the majority.
In both scenarios the fight is long and brutal.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Heartforce at its peak puts him at at least 4x savage hulk. You dont mess with ben you just dont. And anyone who disagrees with me is a communist. I am a communist

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
If by "Peak" you mean the evolved Thing from say 50 years in the future....

Thing takes it.

Spiky Thing would maybe take it too.

Normal Thing gets beaten, although with a good showing. Years of sparring with the Hulk would come in handy.

This runs hand and hand with continuity.

Spiky Thing was an evolved form from a weaker Thing, right now you'd be hardpressed to match Pinapple Thing vs current.

Abomination wins.