Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

Alright the senario is that these powerful guys have been sent stop the giant from destroying earth. Can the trio stop him?

They'd have to find a way to a vital organ and attack it. It would take a few months, but they could likely kill Geridath assuming they can find a way inside him.

It's Gedirath, but Prep-Man made that error too so I won't blame you.

Gedirath stomps. Not only is he on a scale that dwarfs anything the team has encountered, but Promethean giants, in their extremely limited appearances, are portrayed as being monstrously powerful. So much so that normal events are completely insignificant to them. When Metron and Desaad talked with one, the conversation lasted hundreds of years. The Giant had been trapped in the Source wall for millions of years but had felt like it just happened.

While some detractors in the audience might point out that those aren't combat feats, to which I would say that Promethean Giants have no feats, combat or otherwise. All we can go by is perceived intent, hype, and size (Gedirath's hand could hold the Earth).

And yes, I find that enough against this team. Match a Giant up against a Skyfather and then things start looking real murky.

Two if not all three have Skyfather level strength imo Hercules defeated Cronus who was the King of the Titans Kurse has been said to be somewhere between 2 to 4 times stronger then Thor and Hulk destroyed Umar's realm which is imo a skyfather level feat

Yeah, they're not skyfathers. Combined they're not skyfather level.

Strength wise they are imo

Originally posted by Cogito
Yeah, they're not skyfathers. Combined they're not skyfather level.

I don't know how the team can possibly cope with a being whose outstretched hands could "span a star system."

Punch it.

Thought I'd post this because it gives a sense of how damn big Promethean Giants are. Prodigian is one of two named Giants (with Gedirath being the other.) Metron comments on his armor:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12379138_jkfw-13-09.jpg
"The surface over which I now guide the Mobius Chair is a tiny section of his armor. To him, tooled and polished to be as smooth as glass--but to us, a savage landscape filled with mountains and valleys greater than those to be found on most planets."


Desaad also states that the voice of Prodigian feels like "ten thousand stars exploding"--and Metron doesn't seem to disagree:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12379168_jkfw-13-10.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12379169_jkfw-13-11.jpg
...So take that for what it's worth. /shrug

But then again, Hulk's the strongest one there is.

"Hulk SMASH puny Giants!"

And thus does Hulk ascend to Universe Breaker Hulk.

I believe Omega Vision deemed it the "Cavity Creeps" maneuver.

Only way to victory, and Apocalypse isn't here, so Gedirath ftw.

Originally posted by golem370
Strength wise they are imo


your opinion doesn't make it fact, and no they are not!!

Originally posted by Galan007


Thought I'd post this because it gives a sense of how damn big Promethean Giants are. Prodigian is one of two named Giants (with Gedirath being the other.) Metron comments on his armor:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12379138_jkfw-13-09.jpg
"The surface over which I now guide the Mobius Chair is a tiny section of his armor. To him, tooled and polished to be as smooth as glass--but to us, a savage landscape filled with mountains and valleys greater than those to be found on most planets."


Desaad also states that the voice of Prodigian feels like "ten thousand stars exploding"--and Metron doesn't seem to disagree:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12379168_jkfw-13-10.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12379169_jkfw-13-11.jpg
...So take that for what it's worth. /shrug

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad214/prepman005/350sw20sw8swsw.gif

Didn't one of the giants say they lived a perfect life and experienced everything existence could bare?

whats stopping WBH from punching 5 planet sized holes through him with each punch over and over again?
not to mention his strength will continue growing in the years it will take to kill the giant to the point he can one shot the rest of him?

Geridath pops him like a pimple.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Geridath pops him like a pimple. can he even see hulk at his size? hulk would be a microbe to him, hulk would be pushed right into his skin when he tries to crush hulk.

it would be like a human trying to crushing a bacteria cell with his hands. its impossible
IT cant hurt hulk physically, just like we cant hurt bacteria physically with our punches

Gedirath isn't just a "Big Guy".


Think about the strength and power it takes for Gedirath to even move.

Think about the durability Gedirath must have to even stay in one piece.

Think about what is involved for something like Gedirath to even exist.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Gedirath isn't just a "Big Guy".


Think about the strength and power it takes for Gedirath to even move.

Think about the durability Gedirath must have to even stay in one piece.

Think about what is involved for something like Gedirath to even exist. Why think about logical/valid points? Hulk smashes puny giant!!11!1!

Originally posted by Galan007


Thought I'd post this because it gives a sense of how damn big Promethean Giants are. Prodigian is one of two named Giants (with Gedirath being the other.) Metron comments on his armor:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12379138_jkfw-13-09.jpg
"The surface over which I now guide the Mobius Chair is a tiny section of his armor. To him, tooled and polished to be as smooth as glass--but to us, a savage landscape filled with mountains and valleys greater than those to be found on most planets."


Desaad also states that the voice of Prodigian feels like "ten thousand stars exploding"--and Metron doesn't seem to disagree:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12379168_jkfw-13-10.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12379169_jkfw-13-11.jpg
...So take that for what it's worth. /shrug THAT is very freaking cool.

It really doesnt take that much strength to move in space, there is no gravity...

If there were a planet big enough for him to fit on (a galaxy sized planet)
Id Imagine he would instantly die


or explode or something

Originally posted by Horrificus
THAT is very freaking cool.

Indeed. If they are that big, Hulk wouldn't register.

Originally posted by golem370
Two if not all three have Skyfather level strength imo Hercules defeated Cronus who was the King of the Titans Kurse has been said to be somewhere between 2 to 4 times stronger then Thor and Hulk destroyed Umar's realm which is imo a skyfather level feat

I agree. Hulk pulled a ft that no skyfather has shown with physical might.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree. Hulk pulled a ft that no skyfather Living Tribunal has shown with physical might.

Where do you want to draw the line, Carver?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
It really doesnt take that much strength to move in space, there is no gravity...

If there were a planet big enough for him to fit on (a galaxy sized planet)
Id Imagine he would instantly die


or explode or something At his size, he creates his own gravity. As does the Earth.

Only, on a much larger scale. His gravity will be at a MUCH higher level. Probably, comparable to Jupiter, since (although larger), Jupiter is a gas-giant, and Gedirath is solid.

So.... back to Point "A".

Originally posted by Horrificus
Gedirath isn't just a "Big Guy".


Think about the strength and power it takes for Gedirath to even move.

Think about the durability Gedirath must have to even stay in one piece.

Think about what is involved for something like Gedirath to even exist.

Originally posted by Cogito
Where do you want to draw the line, Carver?

Living Tribunal doesnt fist fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Living Tribunal doesnt fist fight.

You didn't answer the question

Originally posted by Cogito
When Metron and Desaad talked with one, the conversation lasted hundreds of years.

I reread the issue in which this happened, and I was wrong. The conversation didn't last hundreds of years, it was billions. Metron stated that, what felt like a minute to them, was actually the passing of hundreds of millions of years.

Originally posted by Cogito
You didn't answer the question

Why would I answer that though? I can't picture Zeus and Odin punching each other in the face with such force that it would melt everyone in Asgard UNLESS they did some serious amping.

Originally posted by Galan007


Thought I'd post this because it gives a sense of how damn big Promethean Giants are. Prodigian is one of two named Giants (with Gedirath being the other.) Metron comments on his armor:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/12379138_jkfw-13-09.jpg
"The surface over which I now guide the Mobius Chair is a tiny section of his armor. To him, tooled and polished to be as smooth as glass--but to us, a savage landscape filled with mountains and valleys greater than those to be found on most planets."


Desaad also states that the voice of Prodigian feels like "ten thousand stars exploding"--and Metron doesn't seem to disagree:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12379168_jkfw-13-10.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12379169_jkfw-13-11.jpg
...So take that for what it's worth. /shrug

Weren't the Promethean Giants intended to be DC's analogues of the Celestials ?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Weren't the Promethean Giants intended to be DC's analogues of the Celestials ?

I'm not going to say that's not true, because some writer may have thought/said that, but I don't see the similarities.

In terms of size, the Giants are to Celestials as Celestials are to ants.

Only two Prometheans have ever made an appearance outside of the Source Wall as Galan mentioned -- Gedirath and Prodigian. Aside from both groups being large (albeit on totally different scales) and old as shit, there's really nothing similar.

Originally posted by Cogito

Only two Prometheans have ever made an appearance outside of the Source Wall as Galan mentioned -- Gedirath and Prodigian. Aside from both groups being large (albeit on totally different scales) and old as shit, there's really nothing similar.

What abou S'ivaa ?(credits for all the scans displayed below and in my next 2 posts , go to Guy222)
http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1790/a6473517899447.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1790/3ec42817899451.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1790/ce9ff917899455.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1790/96a98b17899457.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1790/b2417d17899462.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1790/45e27817899465.gif

continued in next post ....

http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1791/15b86117900737.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1791/360f3717900738.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1791/69d43317900740.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1791/b0803c17900742.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1791/98a5e917900744.gif http://thumbnails11.imagebam.com/1791/7db61b17900745.gif

http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/1791/1f878317901353.gif http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/1791/d1d8d317901356.gif http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/1791/3ab16d17901359.gif http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/1791/d381fb17901361.gif

^ What makes you think that's a Promethean Giant?

Originally posted by Cogito
^ What makes you think that's a Promethean Giant?

He was referred as one in this thread : http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=496911&pagenumber=1

However , I admit that in this case I could be wrong because I am not really well-versed in their history .

That thread seems to have a lot of misinformation. The only two named and confirmed Giants are Prodigian and Gedirath.

Yuga is a New God, not a Promethean. S'ivaa is something else entirely.

Originally posted by Cogito
That thread seems to have a lot of misinformation. The only two named and confirmed Giants are Prodigian and Gedirath.

Yuga is a New God, not a Promethean. S'ivaa is something else entirely.

Thanks for the clarification .

I like how I jokingly brought up Hulk punching Geridath as an argument and now it's actually being discussed by Carver and Colossus-Big C.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I like how I jokingly brought up Hulk punching Geridath as an argument and now it's actually being discussed by Carver and Colossus-Big C.

Crazy, I'm not discussing that.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I believe Omega Vision deemed it the "Cavity Creeps" maneuver.

Indeed I did.

By scale, a bad zit on Gedirath's chin would appear as a 18,000 foot high erupting volcano of puss and blood to Hulk and Co, and his pores would look like millions of Grand Canyons.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
What abou S'ivaa ? As Cog said, S'ivva wasn't a Promethean Giant. He was the most powerful Shadow Elemental. If you're unfamiliar, Shadow Elemental's are the beings who were directly responsible for the death of the previous cosmos, which ultimately resulted in the creation of Apokolips/New Genesis:
http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12387584_s1.jpg http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/12387588_s2.jpg

The only confirmed Promethean Giants ever mentioned by name are Prodigian and Gedirath (with Prodigan being described as the larger of the two.)

Wasn't Yuga Khan a Promethean Giant?

Yuga was described initially as a Promethean Giant, but then it was later stated/revealed that he was an Old God--and Yuga being an Old God makes more sense, considering he is Darkseid's father, and also that he was 'average' height in his true form. Additionally, Yuga's bio states that when he tried to enter the Source (on both occasions), he was: "transformed into a Celestial Giant, and helplessly imprisoned upon a planetoid in the Promethean galaxy."<----That statement suggests that the Source morphed Yuga into a Giant solely for the purpose of containment. Twice.

So no. I personally don't view Yuga as a 'true' Promethean Giant.

Yuga was an Old God? Interesting, I don't remember that.

As for the Source Wall, it seems everyone who's captured in it grows to Promethean Giant size. That's how it's always been portrayed.

Except Henshaw.

how is this still open....? this is the definition of spite.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/Free%20things%20out%20of%20the%20Source%20Wall/Compare%20why%20this%20is%20a%20big%20deal/th_orion13sizeofaprometeangiant.jpg, http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/Free%20things%20out%20of%20the%20Source%20Wall/Compare%20why%20this%20is%20a%20big%20deal/th_orion014sizeofapremetheangiant.jpg

WBH SOLOS

This is an absolutely incredible thread to read after watching an hour of YouTube fight videos featuring Akebono, Bob Sapp, and Hong Man Choi.

Not experienced such a surreal run of Internet viewing in a long time ...

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Except Henshaw. True, but he's also the only character I'm aware of who has ever been able to control a portion of the Wall itself.

Originally posted by Galan007
True, but he's also the only character I'm aware of who has ever been able to control a portion of the Wall itself.

He's also the only character who has remained conscious and has escaped due to his own actions

Because Henshaw is a boss.

Originally posted by Galan007
True, but he's also the only character I'm aware of who has ever been able to control a portion of the Wall itself.

It's his inhabiting materials/disembodied consciousness schtick.

What material was the Source Wall made out of anyway? I know the Promethian Giants got stuck in it like it was some kind of cosmic fly paper, but was the substance ever stated?

Originally posted by MF DELPH
It's his inhabiting materials/disembodied consciousness schtick.

What material was the Source Wall made out of anyway? I know the Promethian Giants got stuck in it like it was some kind of cosmic fly paper, but was the substance ever stated? Not to my knowledge.

Why was this thread made? Seems like spite to me.

If they were just Giants and even at that size, i think WBH would have a chance because moon shattering punch in the right spot could ko him. Finding the right site and getting to it is another matter, But i think becasue of the Time/space implicatoins when interacting with them I think it shows that they may have other powers which were beyond explaination. JMHO

I wonder how Cyttorak (the real one) would do against one of those guys?

Originally posted by biensalsa
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/Free%20things%20out%20of%20the%20Source%20Wall/Compare%20why%20this%20is%20a%20big%20deal/th_orion13sizeofaprometeangiant.jpg, http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/Free%20things%20out%20of%20the%20Source%20Wall/Compare%20why%20this%20is%20a%20big%20deal/th_orion014sizeofapremetheangiant.jpg

WBH SOLOS

Humongous. Straight humongous. Thats a foe for Galactus level characters.

Originally posted by carver9
Humongous. Straight humongous. Thats a foe for Galactus level characters.

I think Galactus is like the size of his nail

Originally posted by biensalsa
I think Galactus is like the size of his nail

I know. He is by far one of the biggest character I've seen in a comic.

Originally posted by carver9
I know. He is by far one of the biggest character I've seen in a comic.

I did some scaling with the two scans.

The first one it seems earth is about the size of his finger, but that scan His hand might be the size of Saturn and maybe he could be 4 or 5 times the size of Jupiter

With the other scan in which he appears with full body and apparently in a different perspective, he seems to be the size of saturn

Originally posted by biensalsa
I did some scaling with the two scans.

The first one it seems earth is about the size of his finger, but that scan His hand might be the size of Saturn and maybe he could be 4 or 5 times the size of Jupiter

With the other scan in which he appears with full body and apparently in a different perspective, he seems to be the size of saturn


Nooooo, he looks much larger than that. It seems like Earth (if that is Earth that I am seeing) is the size of his finger nail. Based on size alone, this guy is at least elder God/Abstract.

I just did some scaling of my own.

You're wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
Based on size alone, this guy is at least elder God/Abstract. That doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Mindset
That doesn't make any sense.

Why not? What Skyfather is beating him?

Based on size alone.

All of them.

Originally posted by Mindset
Based on size alone.

All of them.

I disagree.

Hank Pym's abstract then.

That's because you're always wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
Based on size alone, this guy is at least elder God/Abstract.
You never fail to pull a fail , carver .

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hank Pym's abstract then.

Hank Pym isn't that big and imagine the force from just the wave of his hand at his opponent. The aftershock alone should be crucial.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You never fail to pull a fail , carver .

So you disagree as well? Sigh. The guy make planets look like Golf balls.

Originally posted by carver9
Hank Pym isn't that big and imagine the force from just the wave of his hand at his opponent. The aftershock alone should be crucial.

Hank grew to abstract dimensions.

Eternity is the size of the universe, since he sort of is the universe and all.

He's a proper abstract.

Being much bigger than a planet, but simultaneously much smaller than a solar system, doesn't make you nearly that level.

Odin for example has taken out galaxies.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hank Pym's abstract then.

The fact that Marvel has given such a GROSSLY scientifically inconsistent powerset to one of their greatest scientists , is proof of what utter fail Marvel writers are when it comes to representing science in comics .

Your face is gross.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The fact that Marvel has given such a GROSSLY scientifically inconsistent powerset to one of their greatest scientists , is proof of what utter fail Marvel writers are when it comes to representing science in comics .

Hank Pym is beyond reproach. Scientist Supreme and all that.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hank Pym is beyond reproach. Scientist Supreme and all that.

Never said he isn't . But Marvel writers aren't .

Edit : At such increased sizes that he attains , Pym's entire body should collapse with even the slightest movement , not go around pounding villains like a regular superhero .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Never said he isn't . But Marvel writers aren't .

Edit : At such increased sizes that he attains , Pym's entire body should collapse with even the slightest movement , not go around pounding villains like a regular superhero .

Pym Particles shit on logic, tbh.

Allow me to introduce you to every super powered hero ever.

Originally posted by Mindset
Allow me to introduce you to every super powered hero ever.

Allow me to introduce you to the Science Behind Superheroes . And even they can't resolve Pym's powerset inconsistency .

Allow me to introduce you to you can't even do simple math, you fool.

Originally posted by Mindset
Allow me to introduce you to you can't even do simple math, you fool.

Allow me to introduce you to you don't even have a clue to what you are talking about . Don't dispute that either , because its science .

I've not heard about that science before.

mmm

I think you just made that up!

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Allow me to introduce you to you don't even have a clue to what you are talking about . Don't dispute that either , because its science . Marvel science.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I've not heard about that science before.

mmm

I think you just made that up!

All sciences are made up before becoming established fields .
Btw , that particular science isn't made up at all . Its called exposing-morons-ology and its perfectly applicable to Mindset , seeing as how he has a moron's mindset .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
exposing-morons-ology

Sounds made up....

hmm

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
All sciences are made up before becoming established fields .
Btw , that particular science isn't made up at all . Its called exposing-morons-ology and its perfectly applicable to Mindset , seeing as how he has a moron's mindset . You sound angry.

I'd be angry too if I couldn't do simple math.

Originally posted by Mindset
You sound angry.

I'd be angry too if I couldn't do simple math.

You prove yet again that you don't have the first clue as to what you're talking about . And I'd only be angry if I had a moron's mindset , which you do .

Edit : And yes you can't do simple math .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You prove yet again that you don't have the first clue as to what you're talking about . And I'd only be angry if I had a moron's mindset , which you do .

Edit : And yes you can't do simple math . lol u mad

Originally posted by Mindset
lol u mad

You're getting scared .

I already won this debate.

As you can see all my facts add up...well, you'll have to just take my word for it.

http://s6.tinypic.com/14icx2w.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
I already won this debate.

As you can see all my facts add up...well, you'll have to just take my word for it.

http://s6.tinypic.com/14icx2w.jpg

There was no debate .
You have no facts , and a moron's(like you) word isn't worth taking .

Haha, get it, you can't do simple math!

Let's laugh together.

Originally posted by Mindset
Haha, get it, you can't do simple math!

Let's laugh together.

I agree that you can't do simple math , and are a moron on top of it . Yes , lets laugh together .
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkyqhqlDMJ1qe9jp1.gif

Originally posted by TheGodKiller


lets laugh together .





I'll see your Disney Hyena laugh and raise you Mermaid seaquake laugh.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYIl6j3LCFU
(7min 58sec)

Originally posted by Mindset
Your face is gross.

Not as gross as yours .

mindset claims another victim. the man is a pro's pro, no doubt about it.

Originally posted by leonidas
mindset claims another victim. the man is a pro's pro, no doubt about it.

LOL , wut ?

lol

it's sort of what mindset does. he pulls you in. mindset is one of my faves on here. he's one of the few who doesn't lose track of just what it is we're doing and he never takes himself or any debate too seriously no matter what you say or do. and getting po'd at him....never works. just give in and come to the dark side. the water is a lot warmer over here.

Only cos you pissed in the water..

Originally posted by leonidas
lol

it's sort of what mindset does. he pulls you in. mindset is one of my faves on here. he's one of the few who doesn't lose track of just what it is we're doing and he never takes himself or any debate too seriously no matter what you say or do. and getting po'd at him....never works. just give in and come to the dark side. the water is a lot warmer over here.

PO'd ? I prefer to troll the trolls .

Originally posted by Mindset
You sound angry.

I'd be angry too if I couldn't do simple math.

Originally posted by Galan007

I've always wondered why he's so angry .

Absolutely hilarious thread.