Originally posted by Gecko4lif
So you think gohan's ki production comes from his arm...
I mean you'd have to, to say some shit like that. In a series where people have used hands, eyes, mouth, faces, and ****ing feet to shoot the stuff right. Right. RIGHT.
It's not what I think: the blasts lose half of their power if only one hand is use. Deal with it.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
What part of this is supposed to make sense. Your statement isnt a coherent thought. So your saying it wasnt a large part of his power because he... could power up more... So... woudl he be unable to transform if it were? Besides that even in his not 100% 4th form it would still have to be under 1% of his power. Lets review the sequence of events.
1. Frieza attempts to blow up namek
2. Fails miserably
3. Upon seeing that he has failed he doesnt bother to try again
Why. How. It would literally be harder holding back 99.99% of your strength that using 99.98% of it. Freiza would have had to be actively trying to fail to blow up the planet. Which we know he wasnt.
It makes perfect sense as you seem to understand it just fine...but pretend to be dumb. Classic troll-tactic.
Here's why you fail, miserably, in forming any sort of thing that resembles logic:
Frieza casually destroyed Vegeta in his weakest from.
He didn't "full power it" because he used fractions of a percent his power. He said that "he missed". Don't know what that means but it would appear that the blast was enough to destroy the planet.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/dragon_ball/v27/c007/9.html
Also, you fail to make a semblence of logic because Frieza CAN control his power and how much he puts out. Even a child-Goku could control how strong his blasts are. It's quite stupid to argue that characters like Frieza and Goku cannot control how much power they put out. Also, Frieza was still at 50%: he powered up even more to his 100%. That's obvious that he barely used fractions of a percent of his power up to that point or else he would not be at "100%".
To address your 3 points:
1. He would have immediately succeeded if he aimed right, according to him. He'd know: he's a casual planet buster at many times weaker than his current form.
2. He succeeded because it blows up, in 5 minutes, anyway.
3. He doesn't need to: he succeeded. It was just delayed because he missed.
This is why you fail: you don't know what logic is.
And, actually, it is far harder to use 99.98% of your strength than using 99.99% of you strength. You do it every day and just don't realize it. You think a surgeon is using anymore than .01% of his maximum grip strength when gripping a scalpel? You think you are using something even close to .01% when you grab a feather? Hmmm?
With my grip strength alone, I can pick up well over 150lbs. That translates to 68040 grams. Yet, using the same motion, I can pick up a single paperclip, no problem. Which is easier? Squeezing my hands together to pick up 150lbs or squeezing my hands together to pick up a paperclip? Exactly. It's far harder to exert maximum force than exerting thousandths of your maximium force.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Numbers pulled out your ass. You have provided 0 justification.
I provided quite a lengthy justification a couple of years back. Too bad: you tried.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Holy shit thats hilarious.
What? How horrible your arguments are?
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Let me get this straight. Andriod 16 who used all his energy attempted to destroy cell at all cost only succeeded in destroying a island so he is solar system level?
What you just did here is called a 'strawman'. You didn't even attempt to represent my argument properly.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
The same level that you say goku, gohan, and cell are. Despite being vastly weaker... You cant even keep this shit straight in your own head.
So, Cell, who had plenty of energy left over, but being able to power up enough to destroy a solar system, is somehow sooooo much more powerful than Android 16 that Android 16 has no hope of being a solar system buster? Do you even think your arguments through? Did it even set off some sort of "wait a minute...I probably should not argue against this point because my counter could be illogical"?
Of course it didn't register for you: you actually believe your own shit.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Your bad at not being a wall biting mouth breather.
You kind of...you know...have to actually have a bit of a brain before you can use insults like that.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
A Horse is bigger than a fly. YOU CAN NOT ARGUE THIS!
Excellent comeback: it perfectly refuted my argument. <---sarcasm
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Yes. I Have.
No you haven't.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Tell me. What is 1 ki. What does it represent. What is the speed of somewhat with 1 ki? What about destructive capability? Durability? Strength? You can not answer any of these quesitons becuase the answers dont exist. Ki is an arbitraty measuring system that is only supposed to make small children and retards go "zomg big numbers!!!111!eleventyone!!"
I have no idea: that unit of measure is never used in Dragonball.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
You could replace ki with something ****ing stupid and it would still make the same about of sense.. " Oh my god im reading over NINE THOUSAND WIZARDS!"
You, apparently, are not aware of the calculations used to estimate the speed and power of characters at various power levels.
What does a powerlevel of 100-150 represent? It represents the ability of a person to move a supersonic speeds, casually blow up moons, be bullet proof, etc.
What does a power level of 9000 represent? It means someone can move at hypersonic speeds, blow up planets (anime only) casually endure nuke level blasts, etc.
Guess you didn't think your argument through, too well, did you? Of course you didn't
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
No it isnt
Yes it is because they (goku and perfect cell) were almost perfectly matched.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
since you never explained how the **** they would be solar system busters in the first place
I don't need to: that was one of the givens.
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/dragon_ball/v35/c007/4.html
16 should definitely be able to put out quite a bit of power to destroy a significant portion of a solar system.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Who taught this trog how to use a computer?
I assume you mean "troglodyte". But you probably did not know that.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
No seriously where are the cameras. Am I being punked right now? This guy cant be real.
No matter how much dramatics you bring, you're still just a kid throwing a fit on a computer. Deal with being wrong, build a bridge, and get over it.