Squadron Sinister Hyperion vs Hercules

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golem370
Alright with this feat I think it would be a really good fight. Hyperion punched Wonder Man 20 miles busting his arm and shattering his ribs he then drove Wonder Man through a planet. Who wins?

Sin I AM
Immortal herc??

zopzop
My money is on SS Hyperion. They in the same strength class but SS Hyperion got versatility on his side : like flight and Atomic Vision.

golem370
Immortal Hercules

The Sorrow
Hercules.

Horrificus
SS Hyperion ftw.

Classic Wonder Man was on a par with Thor and Hercules.
SS Hyperion absolutely destroyed him. There is no way Herc could do to Wonder Man, what Hyperion did.

ColossusGrundy
Herc is too unpredictable and inconsistent.

Hyperion owns him.

Stoic
Originally posted by Horrificus
SS Hyperion ftw.

Classic Wonder Man was on a par with Thor and Hercules.
SS Hyperion absolutely destroyed him. There is no way Herc could do to Wonder Man, what Hyperion did.


Not quite. Herc would have beaten Simon if he went all out, and when I say beat I mean the brakes off of him. Herc has some serious H2H skills, and if Simon can't hit him, then it's pretty much a no contest like in boxing when a superior boxer beats up on an inexperienced one. Simon of that era had skills but nowhere near what Herc, Thor, or Namor brought to the table. Many people forget skill, and just focus on power.

With that being said, Herc chokes Hyperion out with a rear naked choke.

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
With that being said, Herc chokes Hyperion out with a rear naked choke.
Hyperion doesn't need to breathe, so Hercules isn't choking him out.

It would be funny if Hyperion lobotomizes Hercules with his Atomic Vision though smile

Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
Hyperion doesn't need to breathe, so Hercules isn't choking him out.

It would be funny if Hyperion lobotomizes Hercules with his Atomic Vision though smile


Chokes don't need to cut off the oxygen flow to put a person out, just the cutting off of the blood flow will do wonders, besides Gladiator choked him out.

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
Chokes don't need to cut off the oxygen flow to put a person out, just the cutting off of the blood flow will do wonders, besides Gladiator choked him out.
Gladiator never choked him out. Gladiator snapped his neck (which he later healed from all on his own).

Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
Gladiator never choked him out. Gladiator snapped his neck (which he later healed from all on his own).

Was he out cold? If so Hercules can revisit the condition on him. Let's not make it out like Hyperion was impossible to be defeated, because he has been, and Hercules is on the level put him in serious trouble. Also Hercules has is pretty durable, he can take anything Hyperion dishes long enough to get in his own shots. being the superior fighter he would do just that.

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
Was he out cold? If so Hercules can revisit the condition on him. Let's not make it out like Hyperion was impossible to be defeated, because he has been, and Hercules is on the level put him in serious trouble. Also Hercules has is pretty durable, he can take anything Hyperion dishes long enough to get in his own shots. being the superior fighter he would do just that.
Dude, PIS off, Hyperion slaughters Herc. He's simply too versatile. With his speed, flight and ranged attacks, he'd cripple Hercules if he wanted to before engaging him hand to hand.

The Squadron Sinister version of Hyperion was laughing off Savage Hulk's best shots and the only reason he went down was because Hulk unleashed a Thunder Clap that overloaded his "super hearing" and KOed him (it makes no sense but whatever).

EDIT -
BFR is also an option. So he can win 10/10 via BFR. Like I said, he's too powerful and versatile for Herc.

Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
Dude, PIS off, Hyperion slaughters Herc. He's simply too versatile. With his speed, flight and ranged attacks, he'd cripple Hercules if he wanted to before engaging him hand to hand.

The Squadron Sinister version of Hyperion was laughing off Savage Hulk's best shots and the only reason he went down was because Hulk unleashed a Thunder Clap that overloaded his "super hearing" and KOed him (it makes no sense but whatever).

EDIT -
BFR is also an option. So he can win 10/10 via BFR. Like I said, he's too powerful and versatile for Herc.

BFR is not always a 100% win when you factor in how Hyperion would attempt to BFR him. Superman attempted to BFR Doomsday, and he failed in the attempt, so using this a some sort of trump card isn't really a trump card at all. It's a possibility, but Herc could fight it off.

Versatility doesn't mean that he auto wins either. Using Savage Hulk as some sort of yardstick is wrong as well, because Herc has better fighting skills than any version of the Hulk. Up close Hyperion chances of winning diminishes drastically, and guess how Hyperion loves to fight? Yep he always engages by coming in close and mixing it up. So what we have here is Hyperion not being able to insta BFR like Thor, or a mage, or a teleporter.

In character he mixes it up, which is not him jobbing but who he is. Even in his battle with Simon, he engaged. This is where Hercs superior battle skills will jack him up, due to H2H dominance and since this is a forum match jobbing is automatically barred from even being brought into play.

Herc wins more times than not, based on character portrayal and skill.

zopzop
Originally posted by Stoic
BFR is not always a 100% win when you factor in how Hyperion would attempt to BFR him. Superman attempted to BFR Doomsday, and he failed in the attempt, so using this a some sort of trump card isn't really a trump card at all. It's a possibility, but Herc could fight it off.

Versatility doesn't mean that he auto wins either. Using Savage Hulk as some sort of yardstick is wrong as well, because Herc has better fighting skills than any version of the Hulk. Up close Hyperion chances of winning diminishes drastically, and guess how Hyperion loves to fight? Yep he always engages by coming in close and mixing it up. So what we have here is Hyperion not being able to insta BFR like Thor, or a mage, or a teleporter.

In character he mixes it up, which is not him jobbing but who he is. Even in his battle with Simon, he engaged. This is where Hercs superior battle skills will jack him up, due to H2H dominance and since this is a forum match jobbing is automatically barred from even being brought into play.

Herc wins more times than not, based on character portrayal and skill.
Well lucky for us, the thread creator stated "Squadron Sinister" Hyperion.

That was the guy laughing off Savage Hulk's best shots and crippling and killing Wonder Man. He also has no hesitation when fighting (unlike 712 Hyperion), so he's not restrained by morality. He crushes Hercules.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by zopzop
That was the guy laughing off Savage Hulk's best shots
When?

Stoic
Originally posted by zopzop
Well lucky for us, the thread creator stated "Squadron Sinister" Hyperion.

That was the guy laughing off Savage Hulk's best shots and crippling and killing Wonder Man. He also has no hesitation when fighting (unlike 712 Hyperion), so he's not restrained by morality. He crushes Hercules.

He still fights nearly the same, as in he engages in fisticuffs. This is where he will fail to win. And neither of them crushes the other, just one of them gets turned out due to lack of skill. Hercules defeated Thor in close combat, no way Hyperion beats him based on the way that he fights.

Sure Hyperion has a great power set, it's too bad that he's almost as full of fail as the Rhino. Not quite, but almost.

Stoic
Originally posted by The Sorrow
When?

He never laughed off Sav Hulks shots to my knowledge.

The Sorrow
Originally posted by Stoic
He never laughed off Sav Hulks shots to my knowledge.
They fought twice to my knowledge and Hulk beat him quickly both times, Savage Hulk has never defeated Hercules like that, though Hyperion did well against Thor. Both are around the same level but Herc can definitely win this.

zopzop
Originally posted by The Sorrow
When? Originally posted by Stoic
He never laughed off Sav Hulks shots to my knowledge.
http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/hulk/Hulk-Hyperion-1.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31238/612268-defenders_giant_size_04_28_super.jpg
Hulk even admitted he couldn't beat him physically and tried another way. He beat him by exploiting his "super hearing" with a Thunder Clap.

And how many times has Hulk fought Herc?

The Sorrow
Originally posted by zopzop
http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/hulk/Hulk-Hyperion-1.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31238/612268-defenders_giant_size_04_28_super.jpg
Hulk even admitted he couldn't beat him physically and tried another way. He beat him by exploiting his "super hearing" with a Thunder Clap.

And how many times has Hulk fought Herc?
In the first scan Hulk knocks him out on the following page and your 2nd scan Hulk doesn't really admit he can't win, if anything he uses his head.

zopzop
Originally posted by The Sorrow
In the first scan Hulk knocks him out on the following page and your
True.

He even says "Then Hulk will have to try another way".

abhilegend
Herc beats his ass. Hyperion is a loser who gets his ass beat by vision.

Zack Fair
On paper Hyperion should win. Hercules beats his ass though and has his way with Hyperion's woman.

Stoic
No way is Hyperion getting away from the million exploding nutz atomic knee lift.

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