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This is insane Lightray. Who wins?

lightray stomps him without much effort.

Lightray.

Split

Lightray. Especially if he gets his gear.

kril

Originally posted by Galan007
lightray stomps him without much effort. This.

Originally posted by Galan007
lightray stomps him without much effort.
Originally posted by Harbinger
This.

Didn't know Lightray stomps a solid herald leveler. I guess he's trans now eh?

Lightray

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Didn't know Lightray stomps a solid herald leveler. I guess he's trans now eh?
Insane Lightray was a match for Takion-- who is generally regarded as a trans-level+ being.

Originally posted by Galan007
Insane Lightray was a match for Takion-- who is generally regarded as a trans-level+ being.

Erm... A match for Takion? Where do you get he's a match for Takion? That is a fallacy... He can't even beat Orion! Surely you jest.

yeah probably lightray..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Didn't know Lightray stomps a solid herald leveler. I guess he's trans now eh?

Firelord is a mid-herald.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Firelord is a mid-herald.

And...?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
And...?
Insane lightray is high herald. Who else in herald category has created entire suns from nothing?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Insane lightray is high herald. Who else in herald category has created entire suns from nothing?

Deadpool

http://i46.tinypic.com/293haqd.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/21ax1md.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Insane lightray is high herald. Who else in herald category has created entire suns from nothing?

how would that help him in a fight? space cheese feats aside, show me how Lightray is high herald? who has he beaten to put him with the likes of Silver Surfer, Superman, Thor...??

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
how would that help him in a fight? space cheese feats aside, show me how Lightray is high herald? who has he beaten to put him with the likes of Silver Surfer, Superman, Thor...??

What do you think would happen if Lightray created a red sun around Superman?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Deadpool

http://i46.tinypic.com/293haqd.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/21ax1md.jpg


Originally posted by celeyhyga17
how would that help him in a fight? space cheese feats aside, show me how Lightray is high herald? who has he beaten to put him with the likes of Silver Surfer, Superman, Thor...??
You don't need to beat those three to become a high herald. Shocker, here I thought that kmc only operates on space cheese! Though he owned mongul like a feeb.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/80236/1717060-lightray_3_super.jpg
Here he is owning mongul sr.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
What do you think would happen if Lightray created a red sun around Superman?
Superman would beat him like eradicator and russian zod.

Originally posted by abhilegend

You don't need to beat those three to become a high herald. Shocker, here I thought that kmc only operates on space cheese! Though he owned mongul like a feeb.

oh that jobbin feeb?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
oh that jobbin feeb?


Terrax fought firelord AND airwalker to a standstill. I don't have to remind you of spidey/firelord incidentt, do I?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Terrax fought firelord AND airwalker to a standstill. I don't have to remind you of spidey/firelord incidentt, do I?

There u go again.. Why u bringing up Firelord? We're discussing Lightray here and why u think he's a hh. Ure already jumping off to another subject. Did u see me say FL is a high herald and that he beats Lightray with ease?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
There u go again.. Why u bringing up Firelord? We're discussing Lightray here and why u think he's a hh. Ure already jumping off to another subject. Did u see me say FL is a high herald and that he beats Lightray with ease?
Well firelord is in this match. I brought him up because you dismissed lightray beating mongul easily as jobbing. Mind you this is the same mongul that fought superman to a standstill.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well firelord is in this match. I brought him up because you dismissed lightray beating mongul easily as jobbing. Mind you this is the same mongul that fought superman to a standstill.

If that's your criteria for being a hh, the kmc hh fraternity is about to get 10x as big..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
If that's your criteria for being a hh, the kmc hh fraternity is about to get 10x as big..


Concession accepted. Now tell me who has beaten mongul sr who is not a high herald.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Concession accepted. Now tell me who has beaten mongul sr who is not a high herald.

Robin

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Erm... A match for Takion? Where do you get he's a match for Takion? That is a fallacy...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830542/l1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830543/l2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830545/l3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830547/l4.jpg.html<----pretty good speed feat for LR.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830548/l5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830549/l6.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830550/l7.jpg.html

Takion ultimately 'won' by expunging the madness from Lightray. However, the fact still remains that LR was very much a match for Takion beforehand. He would tool Firelord.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Robin
Context bro.

Originally posted by Galan007
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830542/l1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830543/l2.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830545/l3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830547/l4.jpg.html<----pretty good speed feat for LR.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830548/l5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830549/l6.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12830550/l7.jpg.html

Takion ultimately 'won' by expunging the madness from Lightray. However, the fact still remains that LR was very much a match for Takion beforehand. He would tool Firelord.

Oh boy. I expected better than this. You calling this as being a match for Takion? I love how you left off the rest of the fight which clearly shows Taky wasn't even trying and proceeded to one shot his dumbass. I can't believe you are blatantly trying to pass this off as a showing for Lightray to be a "match" for Taky. If you don't have the rest of the fight, I'd be glad to post. I could be wrong and prolly misinterpreting the whole thing. Which I doubt of course.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh boy. I expected better than this. You calling this as being a match for Takion? I love how you left off the rest of the fight which clearly shows Taky wasn't even trying and proceeded to one shot his dumbass. I can't believe you are blatantly trying to pass this off as a showing for Lightray to be a "match" for Taky. If you don't have the rest of the fight, I'd be glad to post. I could be wrong and prolly misinterpreting the whole thing. Which I doubt of course. As I clearly explained in my last post: Takion ultimately 'won' by expunging the madness from Lightray. Before that, LR gave Takion a very good fight. Not even Wally, Kyle, and Captain Atom fighting a complete N00b Takion did so well.

Remember, that was Takion-- a trans+-level being. Not some low/mid Herald like Firelord. LR stomps here.

Originally posted by Galan007
As I clearly explained in my last post: Takion ultimately 'won' by expunging the madness from Lightray. Before that, LR gave Takion a very good fight. Not even Wally, Kyle, and Captain Atom fighting a complete N00b Takion did so well.

Remember, that was Takion-- a trans+-level being. Not some low/mid Herald like Firelord. LR stomps here.

No he didn't. You think Taks was trying? Ure still trying to pass this off as a "match". You are totally wrong. How was it a fight when Takion was more "observing" than "fighting"? First off, Lightray completely interrupts the the conversation of Takion and Arzaz. He then surprises the both of them by attacking all of a sudden. It obviously looks like he's holding back the whole time until he gets fed up. Hence the one shot. Takion expunged the madness after he was blasted which you purposely left off. Like I said I can post it if you want. And at this point, Taks was still a noob. Wow on you trying to pass this off for Lightray being a match. If he was actually a match, was Takion ever in danger? Hellzzz nooo!!

It's like Groot getting a few licks in on Thanos and calling him a match for pruneface. Wow..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Takion expunged the madness after he was blasted which you purposely left off. You mean after Takion (a TRANS+-LEVEL BEING) became ENRAGED and hit LR? I forgot about that, but it doesn't change anything. As the scans I posted clearly display, LR was absolutely a match for Takion, until Takion became enraged... Again: not even Wally, CA, and Kyle did so well against a n00b Takion. Lol, for someone who preaches about context, you sure do ignore a lot of it.

That said, I won't indulge you any further. LR contended with a trans+-tier being, and did better against him than multiple high heralds. He would have no problem stomping a single low/mid Herald.

Originally posted by Galan007
You mean after Takion (a TRANS+-LEVEL BEING) became ENRAGED and hit LR? I forgot about that, but it doesn't change anything.

Anyway, as the scans I posted clearly display, LR was absolutely a match for Takion, until Takion became enraged. Lol, for someone who preaches about context, you sure do ignore a lot of it.

Wow... Wtf!??!?! I expected better.. "for someone who preaches about context".. whered that come from? So Groot is a match for Thanos? Moonstone is a match for Nova Prime? Thanos is a match for Odin? (wait lets remove that one since ol pruneface did look gud against the one eyed viking ) Superboy is a match for SBP? Let's do your Lightray being a "match" for Takion. Your whole basis for that statement was flawed to begin with unless u think Lightray is trans+ or close to it.. Sigh......

Originally posted by Galan007
You mean after Takion (a TRANS+-LEVEL BEING) became ENRAGED and hit LR? I forgot about that, but it doesn't change anything. As the scans I posted clearly display, LR was absolutely a match for Takion, until Takion became enraged... Again: not even Wally, CA, and Kyle did so well against a n00b Takion. Lol, for someone who preaches about context, you sure do ignore a lot of it.

That said, I won't indulge you any further. LR contended with a trans+-tier being, and did better against him than multiple high heralds. He would have no problem stomping a single low/mid Herald. There's really nothing more to say. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
There's really nothing more to say. srsly


Here's the whole truth of what you tried to pass off as something different.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-18.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-19.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-20.jpg

1. Takion was never once in danger.
2. Takion was holding back.
3. Takion could have ended it a lot sooner.
4. Lightray was only a one shot away from being put in his place.
5. And finally, Lightray was never a match for Takion who yourself consider to be trans +
Concession accepted.

Galan of all people just got owned. Second. Why did abhi make this thread if he thinks LR stomps. 3rd, Firelord wins this alone off of power display and combat. Kril had given Thor fits, Surfer hell, and the list goes on. He has displayed high Herald level power, enough power to pull a majority here. Forgot to add, stop lowballing abhi.

Originally posted by carver9
Galan of all people just got owned. Second. Why did abhi make this thread if he thinks LR stomps. 3rd, Firelord wins this alone off of power display and combat. Kril had given Thor fits, Surfer hell, and the list goes on. He has displayed high Herald level power, enough power to pull a majority here. Forgot to add, stop lowballing abhi.
I never said lightray stomps here or was lowballing firelord.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Here's the whole truth of what you tried to pass off as something different.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-18.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-19.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-20.jpg

1. Takion was never once in danger.
2. Takion was holding back.
3. Takion could have ended it a lot sooner.
4. Lightray was only a one shot away from being put in his place.
5. And finally, Lightray was never a match for Takion who yourself consider to be trans +
Concession accepted.

Thanks for posting scans of what I already explained. As the scans I originally posted blatantly depict: LR was a match for Takion initially. It was only after Takion became ENRAGED, that he proceeded to defeat LR-- which makes sense considering Tak is a trans+-teir character. However, the fact still remains that LR did BETTER against Takion than Wally+CA+Kyle did.

Good job at proving nothing.

Originally posted by carver9
Galan of all people just got owned. Negative. He merely posted scans of what I'd previously said.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I never said lightray stomps here or was lowballing firelord.


You brought up Terrax fighting Firelord and Firelord had a partner helping him. You then bring up the Spiderman and Firelord fight (ignoring the context. Sounds like lowballing to me.

Originally posted by carver9
Sounds like lowballing to me.

That's some low-hanging fruit right there.

Originally posted by Harbinger
That's some low-hanging fruit right there.


You want some? What do you prefer, apples or oranges?

Originally posted by Galan007
Thanks for posting scans of what I already explained. As the scans I originally posted blatantly depict: LR was a match for Takion initially. It was only after Takion became ENRAGED, that he proceeded to defeat LR-- which makes sense considering Tak is a trans+-teir character. However, the fact still remains that LR did BETTER against Takion than Wally+CA+Kyle did.

Good job at proving nothing.

Negative. He merely posted scans of what I'd previously said.

Yo dude. Ure digging ureself a deeper grave. And LOL on Lightray doing better against Takion than Flash/Captain Atom/GL Kyle. Do you even remember that fight and what actually happened? Cuz I can post those too. You will realize how off base you are for even using that as a comparison. Let's just say there was a lot of holding back and a lot of "non fight" going around in that one.

I'm loving this...keep it going.

Originally posted by carver9
You brought up Terrax fighting Firelord and Firelord had a partner helping him. You then bring up the Spiderman and Firelord fight (ignoring the context. Sounds like lowballing to me.
Can you even read why I brought those up? Also celyhyga didn't answer my question.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I never said lightray stomps here or was lowballing firelord.

you did however lowball.. You went as far as to bring up what is considered as one of the most PIS events in all of comicdom (spidey h2h beat down of a class 100 herald... a herald of Galactus no less.)

Lightray has had weaksauce showings too. I can post if you want. It would just make you look foolish though. U see, it's best to consider both low and high showings to make a fair assesment of one's capabilities. It is also important to consider showings that are completely out of the character's norm unless otherwise explained through context. A super PIS event as in the one with Spidey should really be taken with a grain of salt. At least that's how I would do it.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
you did however lowball.. You went as far as to bring up what is considered as one of the most PIS events in all of comicdom (spidey h2h beat down of a class 100 herald... a herald of Galactus no less.)

Lightray has had weaksauce showings too. I can post if you want. It would just make you look foolish though. U see, it's best to consider both low and high showings to make a fair assesment of one's capabilities. It is also important to consider showings that are completely out of the character's norm unless otherwise explained through context. A super PIS event as in the one with Spidey should really be taken with a grain of salt. At least that's how I would do it.
I only brought that up when you dismissed lightray beating mongul easily as jobbing. Don't get butthurt when your point is used against you. Oh and galan already made a fool out of you. Also who beat mongul sr who wasn't a high herald?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I only brought that up when you dismissed lightray beating mongul easily as jobbing. Don't get butthurt when your point is used against you. Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh and galan already made a fool out of you. Also who beat mongul sr who wasn't a high herald?

So explain how he beat Mongul. Can you expand on that panel u showed? I really wanna see if there was really no jobbing involved.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh and galan already made a fool out of you.

umm... no....

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also who beat mongul sr who wasn't a high herald?
Depends on who you think is a high herald.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So explain how he beat Mongul. Can you expand on that panel u showed? I really wanna see if there was really no jobbing involved.



umm... no....


Depends on who you think is a high herald.
So nothing. Concession accepted. Now move along.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Terrax fought firelord AND airwalker to a standstill. TBH, that's probably the best Terrax was ever written. Iirc he also fought Surfer with them too, and did incredibly well.

Firelord is usually written pretty well outside the Spidey incident. Terrax is written pretty low outside that incident, lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
So nothing. Concession accepted. Now move along.


Ure prolly one of those who associate PC Mongul with post Crisis Mongul. Post crisis was never impressive to begin with. PC Mongul was an absolute beast while his more modern counterpart was a feeb.

If you think this criteria for being considered high herald, to each his own then..
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Green_Lantern_1994-53-17.jpg

What a beast Mongul is eh?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ure prolly one of those who associate PC Mongul with post Crisis Mongul. Post crisis was never impressive to begin with. PC Mongul was an absolute beast while his more modern counterpart was a feeb.

If you think this criteria for being considered high herald, to each his own then..
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Green_Lantern_1994-53-17.jpg

What a beast Mongul is eh?


I know more about superman and his villains than you can ever imagine. That was after he was going toe to toe with THE high herald superman for an entire issue and superman was unable to put him down. Kyle attacked him from behind and you are probably one of those guys who thinks that gl constructs are weaksauce. Try again kid.

In that scan that was previously shown, I didn't see Mongul down, it just showed light ray blitzing him. Where was he koed?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know more about superman and his villains than you can ever imagine. That was after he was going toe to toe with THE high herald superman for an entire issue and superman was unable to put him down. Kyle attacked him from behind and you are probably one of those guys who thinks that gl constructs are weaksauce. Try again kid.

That's a rookie GL. Mongul easily crushed his constructs before that.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's a rookie GL. Mongul easily crushed his constructs before that.

That's also a really high end Mongul..

Kind of funny, how he could shrug off Supermans best, which he was never able to do before. Yet, Kyle puts him down? I don't care if Supes was beating on him before Kyle came up with his construct, he was tanking punches and HV without showing damage. (When, in the past, a weakened Supes could one shot KO him or kill him with his hv). So you'd think a Kyle train would be nothing..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Here's the whole truth of what you tried to pass off as something different.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-18.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-19.jpghttp://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/th_Takion7-20.jpg

1. Takion was never once in danger.
2. Takion was holding back.
3. Takion could have ended it a lot sooner.
4. Lightray was only a one shot away from being put in his place.
5. And finally, Lightray was never a match for Takion who yourself consider to be trans +
Concession accepted.



Lightray also brought Highfather to his knees.

I actually like Firelord, and think he gets lowballed pretty often, but the same can be said of Lightray.. He has some VERY impressive feats, which don't often translate into combat feats (Farting out suns, for example. Or being not only faster than normal Superman, but potentially faster than his energy blue form...)

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's a rookie GL. Mongul easily crushed his constructs before that.
That's why it was a suckershot while superman was engaging mongul. People way more powerful have been downed by suckershots, surfer was koed by thunderball of wrecking crew, mindless hulk was koed by doc samson etc.

bump, lightray stomps, he's such an underrated character

lightray grab takion then accelerate to light speed. in the end he travel the distance that will take light speed eight minutes under a minute. that prove he travels eight time the speed of light

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/8/80518/1717042-takion7_13.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/8/80518/1717043-takion7_14.jpg

creates heat equal to a few suns.
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/8/80518/1717055-lightray_1.jpg

create light enough to fire a star
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/8/80518/1717057-lightray_2.jpg

owning mongul with a single blast
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/8/80518/1717060-lightray_3.jpg