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Alright this fight takes place on a planet twice the size of earth and has been made indestructible. In the fight WBH has been given Megingjord and specially fitted Asgardian Armor which is indestructible. Giant Battle

Team Two .

I think it would very close

Odin needs a way better partner

WBH has double this strength with indestructible armor I think he would be a dangerous partner

WBH has doubled strength with armor?

With Megingjord- http://marvel.wikia.com/Megingjord

WBH doesn't need any enhancements to take out Prime. Tyrant is the issue. I can't see Odin or WBH beating him.

I think Odin and Hulk would do well. Depowered Tyrant could skill Thanos and imo Odin and WBH take him down if not Odin alone

WBH would get bent over by Prime

Originally posted by juggerman
WBH would get bent over by Prime


He really wouldnt. WBH was tanking hits that Prime was bleeding in the face from. This doesn't include WBH being stronger.

WBH isn't stronger than prime.

Show me scans of WBH completely rewriting history with a punch. Or just about anything Prime did.

And him bleeding is not a low strength showing it would be a low durability showing. Also show me Prime getting his eyes cut out

Originally posted by carver9
WBH doesn't need any enhancements to take out Prime.

To take him out to dinner and a movie? Shopping at the mall?

Nah, you're probably right. Smart money's on that date ending poorly, though.

Originally posted by Cogito
To take him out to dinner and a movie? Shopping at the mall?

Nah, you're probably right. Smart money's on that date ending poorly, though.
The poor ending of that date will probably be something along the lines of Prime throwing a teenage tantrum and retcon-punching WBH out of comic book continuity .

Originally posted by juggerman
Show me scans of WBH completely rewriting history with a punch. Or just about anything Prime did.

And him bleeding is not a low strength showing it would be a low durability showing. Also show me Prime getting his eyes cut out

If Hulk had the context behind that "retcon punch" feat that Prime did, I wouldn't put it past him to perform the same thing. He's already punched the timestream before while in a weaker incarnation. *shrug*

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If Hulk had the context behind that "retcon punch" feat that Prime did, I wouldn't put it past him to perform the same thing. He's already punched the timestream before while in a weaker incarnation. *shrug*

I actually agree. Feats like that are highly situational and can't be effectively argued as specific strength feats.

The more impressive feat is moving the center of the universe (via moving planets at lightspeed)

I mean, clearly the writers didn't think that one through. Moving the center of the universe a noticeable amount would involve moving hundreds or thousands of galaxies at the very least. I would tend to read it differently, as Prime moving some unknown number of planets instead (which I think was intended; this is still far greater than any WBH strength feat)

Originally posted by juggerman
Show me scans of WBH completely rewriting history with a punch. Or just about anything Prime did.

And him bleeding is not a low strength showing it would be a low durability showing. Also show me Prime getting his eyes cut out


Kal-l punched through the same thing/wall...put Savage Hulk in that room and he would do the same thing as well.

WBH is clearly stronger than him, CLEARLY. Prime isnt taking a stroll through a park destroying planets and he sure as hell isnt punching Black Adam melting other Heralds in the vicinity. WBH would work Prime...badly.

Originally posted by Cogito
I actually agree. Feats like that are highly situational and can't be effectively argued as specific strength feats.

The more impressive feat is moving the center of the universe (via moving planets at lightspeed)

I mean, clearly the writers didn't think that one through. Moving the center of the universe a noticeable amount would involve moving hundreds or thousands of galaxies at the very least. I would tend to read it differently, as Prime moving some unknown number of planets instead (which I think was intended; this is still far greater than any WBH strength feat)

Originally posted by Nihilist
Odin needs a way better partner

Actually id say odin is the weakest of the four

Originally posted by DickBlazer
Actually id say odin is the weakest of the four

An Amped WBH died from a planet buster while prime survived a universe buster. Enough said.

This.

Originally posted by Diesldude
An Amped WBH died from a planet buster while prime survived a universe buster. Enough said.

Show WBH dying. Scans please. How did he die when he wished everyone back to life. Let me do what you did though. A casual blast from a GL made Prime scream out in pain. Conner punched him in the face and made Prime bleed. The teen titans worked Prime and Wondergirl held her own against Prime for some time. Low balling doesn't help you friend.

Dying from a planet exploding isn't lowballing

Originally posted by juggerman
This.

He didn't die. They showed him in the heart "of his own attack" tanking it. Then after the attack, he wished everyone back to life. Reread the book.

Originally posted by juggerman
Dying from a planet exploding isn't lowballing

He didn't die so he is lowballing.

if he didn't die it still wouldn't be low balling. it would be lying

Team 2.. and it reallly isn't that close at all...

Hulk doesn't belong team two wins

Originally posted by carver9
Show WBH dying. Scans please. How did he die when he wished everyone back to life. Let me do what you did though. A casual blast from a GL made Prime scream out in pain. Conner punched him in the face and made Prime bleed. The teen titans worked Prime and Wondergirl held her own against Prime for some time. Low balling doesn't help you friend. I wasn't lying or lowballing. Tell me did Betty die in the explosion? And getting a bloody lip from a punch to the face is alot less than being killed by getting bumped LOL. Team 2 wins easy.

Team Two wins. Tyrant is a beast.

Originally posted by DickBlazer
Actually id say odin is the weakest of the four

doh

Originally posted by DickBlazer
Actually id say odin is the weakest of the four

Originally posted by Diesldude
I wasn't lying or lowballing. Tell me did Betty die in the explosion? And getting a bloody lip from a punch to the face is alot less than being killed by getting bumped LOL. Team 2 wins easy.

You was lying though since they showed both Betty and Hulk in the heart of the blast without a scratch on them.

Team 2 wins because of Tyrant...Prime would lose to either Odin or WBH for a high majority.

Team 2 wins because Hulk is a horrible weak link

Originally posted by iceman24567
Team 2 wins because Hulk is a horrible weak link you just love spamming the same thing don't you?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you just love spamming the same thing don't you? You like cock riding don't you? Give somebody else a turn

twice on the same page

Originally posted by iceman24567
Hulk doesn't belong team two wins

Originally posted by iceman24567
Team 2 wins because Hulk is a horrible weak link

who raped you?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
twice on the same page





who raped you? Still riding i see. It was in response to what carver said. Either way atleast its relevant to the thread unlike what you are doing

you do it a lot, but this time it was less than 10 minutes apart so it's going to stick out more. counter trolling carver doesn't work, you've tried, extensively.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you do it a lot, but this time it was less than 10 minutes apart so it's going to stick out more. counter trolling carver doesn't work, you've tried, extensively. Nah it seems you just dislike anything anti Hulk to a lesser extent than carv obviously. Again it was a reply to carver claiming Prime is the weakest on the field i was correcting him on why Team two wins

it's more like damage control.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it's more like damage control. What are you the gamma guardian?

Team 1 ftw.

Odin needs help. Against Prime, Hulk is outclassed. Against Tyrant, he's roadkill.

Team two.

Originally posted by iceman24567
What are you the gamma guardian? you created me

lol

Carver is a rogue member of the Gamma Nation.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you created me
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/iceman2456/Supernatural.gif

lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Kal-l punched through the same thing/wall...put Savage Hulk in that room and he would do the same thing as well.

WBH is clearly stronger than him, CLEARLY. Prime isnt taking a stroll through a park destroying planets and he sure as hell isnt punching Black Adam melting other Heralds in the vicinity. WBH would work Prime...badly.

I'm not sure WBH is stronger than Prime (prehaps Superman though but it's debatable). Prime has feats of moving planets at ftl speeds around like chess pieces. Think of MORE than millions of Earth weights.

IMO, Tyrant is over rated in these forums. I think Odin can beat a depowered Tyrant (not a full powered one though). DP Tryant is low skyfather at best and high trans at least.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not sure WBH is stronger than Prime (prehaps Superman though but it's debatable). Prime has feats of moving planets at ftl speeds around like chess pieces. Think of MORE than millions of Earth weights.

IMO, Tyrant is over rated in these forums. I think Odin can beat a depowered Tyrant (not a full powered one though). DP Tryant is low skyfather at best and high trans at least.


u don't think WBH can move planets? Savage Hulk powered through a blast that had enough power to toss planets.

Originally posted by carver9
You was lying though since they showed both Betty and Hulk in the heart of the blast without a scratch on them.

Team 2 wins because of Tyrant...Prime would lose to either Odin or WBH for a high majority.
Look man, you are calling me a liar and stooping me to your level.

I hated to do this, but it's now apparent that you don't even read Hulk comics.

Page 15 and 16 of Incredible Hulks 634, the planet is getting destroyed, Dr. Strange says goodbye world breaker as he teleports away.
On the next page the planet is destroyed and you see Umar in blue with stars in the background. Since the planet hadn't reformed yet, but the stars were still present, it proves that it was just a planetary explosion.
See here:
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/Diesldude/hulk1.jpg
See it was Umar alone with no one on the destroyed planet, there is no Hulk or betty fighting like you want us to believe. That came on the next page. And even before that as shown in the scan above, amadeus cho was speaking to Umer before the fight with Betty was shown, so does that mean his durability is = to WBH? Here is the scan of hulk and betty fighting but contrary to your lie, it was after the explosion not during it.:
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/Diesldude/hulk2.jpg
At this point, the wish had taken affect and had brought hulk and friends back to life.
So now once and for all it was a planetary explosion, wbh died from a planet buster which is <<<<<<<<<<<< than Prime surviving a universe buster. Team 2 FTW.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk8.jpg

Lololololol...you left out the main piece of the scan...Hulk is clearly standing on the hill side smiling. Hell, its stated in this same scan that Hulk brought everyone back to life.

I can do better than that though Diesel...I can provide a scan of Hulk in the heart of the blast without even a scratch on him while everyone is melted and the planet is destroyed.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901481/Incredible_Hulks_635_004.jpg.html

You didn't prove anything...you cut off some scans and skipped some major parts. Now again, show us where Hulk died.

Hell, they are still smiling and fighting while everything is being destroyed.

Superman has done better than that.

Did Umar die?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has done better than that.

Why are you bringing Superman up? I'm not talking about him.

As for Diesel...here is a close up of Hulk skin during the blast.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901484/Incredible_Hulks_635_005.jpg.html

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did Umar die?


Naah, she tanked it. It would have been amazing if she died though.

I'm going to have to read this Hulk issue...

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm going to have to read this Hulk issue...


Lol...

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm going to have to read this Hulk issue...
Its all from Heart Of The Monster .

Originally posted by carver9
Why are you bringing Superman up? I'm not talking about him.

As for Diesel...here is a close up of Hulk skin during the blast.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901484/Incredible_Hulks_635_005.jpg.html
Because prime is stronger than superman who *without any help* did that same thing.

Originally posted by carver9
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk8.jpg

Lololololol...you left out the main piece of the scan...Hulk is clearly standing on the hill side smiling. Hell, its stated in this same scan that Hulk brought everyone back to life.

That is after Amadeus was already resurrected. LOL So like is Amadeus Cho's durability greater than Hulk's? In the same scan, you see the planet destroyed and no one was alive except for umer. Do you see hulk anywhere? Umer was there first, then Amadeus Cho and then the hulk. LOL what's so hard over here?


Originally posted by carver9

I can do better than that though Diesel...I can provide a scan of Hulk in the heart of the blast without even a scratch on him while everyone is melted and the planet is destroyed.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901481/Incredible_Hulks_635_004.jpg.html

You didn't prove anything...you cut off some scans and skipped some major parts. Now again, show us where Hulk died.

That was from 635, i don't think you read that scan you just posted.

The planet was getting destroyed the hulk and betty at the time had not, but you missed the fact that strange stopped time. When strange released the time stop the planet got destroyed as shown in my first scan. And if you read what strange says on page 5, he says "They wont die because the magic at work here will resurrect everyone to fight again and again." All it means is that hulk's and betty's durability was greater than all the monsters there, but the end result from #634 shows they died.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Its all from Heart Of The Monster .

Yeah, 635 right?

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No talking about Superman, guys.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, 635 right?
Yes , those particular scans which carter and Diesl posted are from that issue . This entire series is the infamous Hulk-wankfest for which Pak has now been granted divinity by the Gamma worshipers .

Edit : Its also the source of carter's "WBH is a low-skyfather" claim .

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, 635 right?

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No talking about Superman, guys.

634 and 635.

The scans carver posted of Strange performing a time stop was strange reminiscing about the events in 634.

@Diesel...

I never said time wasn't stopped/slowed but in those scans EVERYTHING was destroyed...that was the heart and the finishing of the attack and the Hulk was still pearly without a scratch. The planet was gone, the Hulks was covered in the attack without an injury.

The proof is on you. Show us the scan where Hulk died because the scan I presented shows Hulk tanking "his own attack".

Odin takes hulls armor and then he solos

Originally posted by carver9
@Diesel...

I never said time wasn't stopped/slowed but in those scans EVERYTHING was destroyed...that was the heart and the finishing of the attack and the Hulk was still pearly without a scratch. The planet was gone, the Hulks was covered in the attack without an injury.

The proof is on you. Show us the scan where Hulk died because the scan I presented shows Hulk tanking "his own attack".

It didn't show everyone die, but it showed many dying right.
The planet wasn't destroyed in an instant, you see monsters dying and the planet getting destroyed while the hulk and betty were fighting.
If they had continued to fight then why was the hulk "calmly" walking towards betty to fight again after the planet was reformed and they were resurrected. Dude strange said that they were going to die and fight again. Just because there wasn't a picture of the hulk lying dead on a rock doesnt meant he didnt die. They showed the planet blasted to bits and would have shown betty and hulk fighting if they were really alive like they did with Umer.

How much more evidence do you need? LOL you're a phucking zealot in your gamma worship.

If its offpanel, Carver doesn't accept it. I remember having an argument with Godkiller about this very issue...hmmmm....

Originally posted by Diesldude
They showed the planet blasted to bits and would have shown betty and hulk fighting if they were really alive like they did with Umer.
It's posts like this why Pak made HOTM such a wankfest in the first place. He had Amadeus Cho running commentary explaining every past WBH feat in unnecessary detail because of how much they were downplayed on certain forums, even as far as having him break the 4th wall to explain the arc was "in continuity". Issue 635 expands on what happened in 634, clearly showing Hulk and Betty very much alive in the center of the collision and you still don't accept it smh.

It all stems from Hulk being a superhero that regularly fights other heroes... it makes for quite a lot of dislike for Hulk, on forums, as other heroes are constantly beat down by him in a rather definitive fashion.

No other character's feats are fought over so meticulously as Hulk's are. Nevermind that from his inception he has been a team wrecker or that Savage Hulk regularly dumped Thor AND the Avengers on their arses, on a regular basis, he MUST be benefiting from PIS and he CANNOT be as powerful as Marvel claim he is.

We live in an age of denial and delusion, I thought I came here to escape that stuff, instead I see the Churches of Thor and Thanos spreading the same kind of anti-rational 'thinking' here.

Frankly, when it's your 'interpretation' against Marvel's statements, I'm siding with Marvel.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If its offpanel, Carver doesn't accept it. I remember having an argument with Godkiller about this very issue...hmmmm....
Are you referring to the Gladiator VS P5 issue ?

Originally posted by janus77
No other character's feats are fought over so meticulously as Hulk's are.

Not true.



Not true either.

And not even going in to the fact that Thanos has what, two, three followers on the board? Thor has less than half a dozen real followers on this board too.

I love/hate all equally.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not true.



Not true either.

And not even going in to the fact that Thanos has what, two, three followers on the board? Thor has less than half a dozen real followers on this board too.
If by followers , you mean fanboys , then there is only one Thanos "follower" on this board , and we all know who that is .

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not true.



Not true either.

And not even going in to the fact that Thanos has what, two, three followers on the board? Thor has less than half a dozen real followers on this board too.
that's your perception, posts say otherwise. case in point the ludicrous idea that Hulk "died off-panel" in HOTM.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
It's posts like this why Pak made HOTM such a wankfest in the first place. He had Amadeus Cho running commentary explaining every past WBH feat in unnecessary detail because of how much they were downplayed on certain forums, even as far as having him break the 4th wall to explain the arc was "in continuity". Issue 635 expands on what happened in 634, clearly showing Hulk and Betty very much alive in the center of the collision and you still don't accept it smh. Smh. They were fighting while the planet was whole around them after their supposed planet buster, and then strange froze time. Smh strange then leaves and time starts flowing then you have the planet in bits and you saw the end result, with only Umer being visible. Smh man how else can it be otherwise, why can't you take stranges' word if he broke the 4th wall when he said they they will die, resurrect and fight again. How much clearer can it get? They fought, they died, they get resurrected, hulk calmly walks back into the fight and they fight again. Man this is nuts. This is clear as daylight and you guys still ignore all this evidence in your hulk worship. Denying doesn't make it right.

Team 2 wins this without a question bring odin a better help.

lmao @Hulk dying from a "planet buster". Hulk didnt die in HOTM. Thats nonsense. The attack was also much more than a planet buster (exponentially greater quite frankly)

Team 1 wins due to Odin

Originally posted by Diesldude
Smh. They were fighting while the planet was whole around them after their supposed planet buster, and then strange froze time. Smh strange then leaves and time starts flowing then you have the planet in bits and you saw the end result, with only Umer being visible. Smh man how else can it be otherwise, why can't you take stranges' word if he broke the 4th wall when he said they they will die, resurrect and fight again. How much clearer can it get? They fought, they died, they get resurrected, hulk calmly walks back into the fight and they fight again. Man this is nuts. This is clear as daylight and you guys still ignore all this evidence in your hulk worship. Denying doesn't make it right.
It's okay let the hate flow through you. Strange doesn't say anywhere that Hulk specifically is going to die. He froze time after the huge collision and was even talking to Bruce Banner while everyone else had been destroyed, it seriously couldn't get much clearer that. If everything needs to be spoon fed to you to such a degree it's a wonder how you make it through a whole comicbook without losing your marbles.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Smh. They were fighting while the planet was whole around them after their supposed planet buster, and then strange froze time. Smh strange then leaves and time starts flowing then you have the planet in bits and you saw the end result, with only Umer being visible. Smh man how else can it be otherwise, why can't you take stranges' word if he broke the 4th wall when he said they they will die, resurrect and fight again. How much clearer can it get? They fought, they died, they get resurrected, hulk calmly walks back into the fight and they fight again. Man this is nuts. This is clear as daylight and you guys still ignore all this evidence in your hulk worship. Denying doesn't make it right.


Hulk was still alive after the blast. How can Hulks own attack kill him, especially when again, we see him without a scratch in the heart of the blast.

Prime is still stronger than hulk despite what hulk wankers want to believe.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prime is still stronger than hulk despite what hulk wankers want to believe.

He really isn't.

Prime is leagues on top of leagues above hulk in anything, and Lol at the argument even being circled around the strength, prime has a heat vision flight speed durability and strength to WTFCURBSTOMP any version of hulk Lol, add the fact he is one cruel bastard and you got prime ripping hulk in half and whiping his ass with his green skin, after that you may reffer hulk as Brown Scar

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prime is still stronger than hulk despite what hulk wankers want to believe.
Prove it Lois Lane.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Prove it Lois Lane.

It's been proven a hundred times over, and hulk fanboys just keep singing the same broken tune.

The only people who could think WBH has superior feats than SBP are those who don't understand the scale difference between planets an the goddamn universe. Ditto the only people who could believe WBH has superior durability feats don't understand the difference between planets and the goddamn universe.

Err, are u asserting that the difference between Prime and WBH strength feats (as was the focus of the post you quoted) are akin to the scale difference between planets and the universe?

Cuz that is incredibly stupid as well as untrue so Ill just give you the benefit of the doubt there.

No, I'm saying Hulk's best strength feats are planetary and Prime moved the center of the universe so fast the Guardians didn't even notice until it had already happened.

SBP has further survived universal destruction (durability)

You don't have to like the facts, but they're obvious to anyone who isn't in strong denial.

Not sure what facts you have brought up here. The term "planetary" is ambiguous and if you are using it in the way i think you are (akin to regular planetary destruction) then no Hulks best strength feat is far above that. Furthermore prime re arranging the centre of universe iirc also involved him moving planets which is why using the term planetary in one case and not the other is selective equivocation.

Id like see this supposedly apparent enormous scale difference backed up by any form of credible explanation because having read up on both characters fairly extensively such an enormous difference in scale can only be inferred from a gross misunderstanding/underestimation of the scale of Hulks (WBH specifically) best feats.

Moving some massive number of planets to move the center of the universe is not planetary feat in the same way that destroying the omniverse is not simply a universal feat (just a collection of universes, after all).

Not that hard to understand.

Which of WBH's feats are > planetary? His best feat (shared w/ Betty) was destroying a planet and a couple moons.

What you need to understand is that your arbitrary classifications such as planetary mean little. IIRC prime didnt move all those planets simultaneously and did it individually albeit at great speeds. Hence you cannot attempt to accumulate several strength feats performed in quick succession (planetary movement) and then label pool them together as one and then label it as an above planetary (meaningless term) level feat. If you destroy the omniverse by going one universe at a time then all you have is a collection of universe destroying feats. It is not at all the same as destroying all these universes that make up the omniverse simultaneously.

As said before even the term planetary is meaningless. Planets can get destroyed/moved and what have you in different ways. The ways in which its done greatly affects the impressiveness of that feat. Which is why a catch all classification like "planetary" without going into further detail is meaningless.

Additionally the planetary destruction within the worldbreaker hulk feat is not even the most impressive part of the feat and to then try and definte the feat by it is just silly

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Prove it Lois Lane.
Superman has done the same thing as WBH AND Betty did except it was without any energy projection and superman did it alone. Don't cry now, hulk is still the strongest one in a "small world".

Originally posted by Naija boy
What you need to understand is that your arbitrary classifications such as planetary mean little. IIRC prime didnt move all those planets simultaneously and did it individually albeit at great speeds. Hence you cannot attempt to accumulate several strength feats performed in quick succession (planetary movement) and then label pool them together as one and then label it as an above planetary (meaningless term) level feat. If you destroy the omniverse by going one universe at a time then all you have is a collection of universe destroying feats. It is not at all the same as destroying all these universes that make up the omniverse simultaneously.

As said before even the term planetary is meaningless. Planets can get destroyed/moved and what have you in different ways. The ways in which its done greatly affects the impressiveness of that feat. Which is why a catch all classification like "planetary" without going into further detail is meaningless
While you are getting hung up on definitions, you have yet to point out which of WBH's strength feats are greater. Or durability feats, for that matter.

Smh. Hung up on definitions? You attempted to equivocate with a meaningless term and use it to improperly classify a feat while similarly not applyinig the same standard to another feat and yet had the audacity to call what you were saying the "facts". Based of of this you then claimed the difference in scale was absurdly enormous but have not been able to give any reasoned defence of the assertion (which was itself ridiculous). I dont expect much logical coherence on these forums but I had decided to give you the benefit of the doubt. My mistake.

Anyhow WBHs feat in HOTM stacks up well against any prime strength feat i know of. Durability feats were never an issue i contested.

for christ sake hulk DOES NOT have feats to compete with someone who climb to the trans tier just because he is that freakin strong, hulk overall has always been a planetery level at the very best and i am talking about his most powerful incarnations, what feats did WBH present to put him above prime? prime broke dimensions and altered the reality itself and i dont want to hear "hulk could have done the same if needed" argument because until he does those things he cannot, SBP flew thrue anti monitors armor crushed it and was unharmed, i am not going to give you a deep comics leason and explain about the anti monitors armor too much however guardians were were stated to die if they were to breach his armor, he broke a wall combined out of all green lanters will power combined, you have any idea how great of a strength feat that is??? he ***** slapped black adam like a fly, black adam would tear hulk's head off, he took a combined team of half DC roster including superman super girl, martian manhunter, wonder woman, flash, he simultaneously outfought 3 flashes by fighting speed, he crushed an entire team of super heroes just by landing after he became a herald of the anti monitor, he took out solomon grundy just with a casual heat vision, owned superman like a child, made the green lanter rings afraid of him, he survived a UNIVERSAL BLAST!!!!!! are you for real? and what did hulk do??? what???

Hulk destroyed the Dark Dimension, with a thunderclap. He's punched right through the TimeStream too... either of them is far greater than moving planets around.

Also, on Sakaar, he literally held a planet together - preventing it from exploding apart. That is far greater than moving planets about.

And if you do want to talk about HOTM, the feat was destroying the dimension with the concussive backwash from Hulk throwing a punch at Red SheHulk. It wasn't even WBH straining himself, it was a mere swing.

Originally posted by red sabre
for christ sake hulk DOES NOT have feats to compete with someone who climb to the trans tier just because he is that freakin strong, hulk overall has always been a planetery level at the very best and i am talking about his most powerful incarnations, what feats did WBH present to put him above prime? prime broke dimensions and altered the reality itself and i dont want to hear "hulk could have done the same if needed" argument because until he does those things he cannot, SBP flew thrue anti monitors armor crushed it and was unharmed, i am not going to give you a deep comics leason and explain about the anti monitors armor too much however guardians were were stated to die if they were to breach his armor, he broke a wall combined out of all green lanters will power combined, you have any idea how great of a strength feat that is??? he ***** slapped black adam like a fly, black adam would tear hulk's head off, he took a combined team of half DC roster including superman super girl, martian manhunter, wonder woman, flash, he simultaneously outfought 3 flashes by fighting speed, he crushed an entire team of super heroes just by landing after he became a herald of the anti monitor, he took out solomon grundy just with a casual heat vision, owned superman like a child, made the green lanter rings afraid of him, he survived a UNIVERSAL BLAST!!!!!! are you for real? and what did hulk do??? what???
Do you always shout your ignorance so loudly and vehemently?
You do realise that strongly asserting an erroneous statement, doesn't change the fact that it is in error?

Just to let you know WBH in this thread has a strength increase and armor which is suppose to be indestructible. Think Juggernaut with an uber strength increase

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk destroyed the Dark Dimension, with a thunderclap. He's punched right through the TimeStream too... either of them is far greater than moving planets around.

That was like, 40 years ago and has no bearing here. What he destroyed in the HOTM storyline (with Betty) was a planet and a couple moons

Originally posted by janus77
Also, on Sakaar, he literally held a planet together - preventing it from exploding apart. That is far greater than moving planets about.

lol

Moving a single planet at lightspeed+ requires exponentially more force than holding together a planet.

Originally posted by janus77
And if you do want to talk about HOTM, the feat was destroying the dimension with the concussive backwash from Hulk throwing a punch at Red SheHulk. It wasn't even WBH straining himself, it was a mere swing.

No punch destroyed the dark dimenision. Anything else is unquantifiable.




Fact: Prime moved the center of the universe.
Fact: Prime has, on several occasions, punched through dimensions
Fact: The effects of those punches have altered reality
Fact: Prime survived a universe-busting explosion
Fact: Prime's feats are greater than Hulk's

Originally posted by golem370
Just to let you know WBH in this thread has a strength increase and armor which is suppose to be indestructible. Think Juggernaut with an uber strength increase
In that case, I think Team 1 has a shot. I don't think they can beat DePowered Tyrant though. SBP should be a piece of cake for either Hulk or Odin, but Dp Tyrant is probably a match for the both of them combined. If not more.

Depowered Tyrant wasn't even powerful enough to kill Thanos so imo he would be High Skyfather nothing more.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has done the same thing as WBH AND Betty did except it was without any energy projection and superman did it alone.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Prove it Lois Lane.


That's the thing, whether Hulk is shown to be the strongest or not is irrelevant to me, unlike you I don't have some agenda to push to make him > everyone else. Anyone who reads Marvel and Hulk comics can see how just how strong he is without having to state it from thread to thread. You bring up Superman when he isn't even involved in debates such as this one and your borderline obsession over him is known throughout the forum.

Team 2.

It has been stated Classic Hulk would not be a match for most recent version of Hulk like WWH WBH or even War Hulk, yet Classic Hulk has some incredible strength feats like punching through a time line destroying a asteroid bigger then earth standing toe to toe with a Super Adaptoid with the combined power of 100 super heros holding his own which some of Marvel strongest heros

Originally posted by janus77
Do you always shout your ignorance so loudly and vehemently?
You do realise that strongly asserting an erroneous statement, doesn't change the fact that it is in error?

http://www.mynetimages.com/viewimage/dfd434506d

Let's not forget Hulk destroyed a pocket universe as well in a fist fight.

Originally posted by Cogito
That was like, 40 years ago and has no bearing here. What he destroyed in the HOTM storyline (with Betty) was a planet and a couple moons



lol

Moving a single planet at lightspeed+ requires exponentially more force than holding together a planet.



No punch destroyed the dark dimenision. Anything else is unquantifiable.




Fact: Prime moved the center of the universe.
Fact: Prime has, on several occasions, punched through dimensions
Fact: The effects of those punches have altered reality
Fact: Prime survived a universe-busting explosion
Fact: Prime's feats are greater than Hulk's


So Prime can punch Superman and destroy the other heralds in the vicinity? Scans.

Originally posted by golem370
It has been stated Classic Hulk would not be a match for most recent version of Hulk like WWH WBH or even War Hulk, yet Classic Hulk has some incredible strength feats like punching through a time line destroying a asteroid bigger then earth standing toe to toe with a Super Adaptoid with the combined power of 100 super heros holding his own which some of Marvel strongest heros


He also punched Onslaught in a million pieces and punched the reality warping powers clean out of him. Prime space cheese fts are all nice and dandy but his punching power isn't comparable to Hulks, at all.

Originally posted by Cogito
That was like, 40 years ago and has no bearing here. What he destroyed in the HOTM storyline (with Betty) was a planet and a couple moons



lol

Moving a single planet at lightspeed+ requires exponentially more force than holding together a planet.



No punch destroyed the dark dimenision. Anything else is unquantifiable.




Fact: Prime moved the center of the universe.
Fact: Prime has, on several occasions, punched through dimensions
Fact: The effects of those punches have altered reality
Fact: Prime survived a universe-busting explosion
Fact: Prime's feats are greater than Hulk's

Kal-l punched through the same wall Prime punched through. If Savage Hulk was in that room, he would have done the same thing.

Originally posted by janus77
Do you always shout your ignorance so loudly and vehemently?
You do realise that strongly asserting an erroneous statement, doesn't change the fact that it is in error?

are you retarded or some shit? i just pointed out SBP feats, how the hell can pointing out his feats be ignorant at any point? dude you are just a phuckin fail seriously i brought you feats of SBP which put hulk to shame, so i understand why you choose to whine and be butthurt about that but seriously if you expect anyone to believe you then you are even dumber than i thought.

There's quite a few Savage Hulk feats that pretty much rival HOTM(if not surpass it).
It's very easy to forget that decades before Greg Pak came along, Hulk had been toppling Eternals, busting dimensions and ripping apart the very fabric of the universe. And back then, people would argue the toss between Hulk and Thor. And Marvel would present them as equals, with the proviso that Thor needs Mjolnir to stand a chance against Hulk.

Our forum arguments used to be closer to their comic depictions back then, Hulk vs Juggernaut - eternal stalemate. Hulk vs Thor - split/chose your favourite.

Even then, it was easy to point out that Savage Hulk/Hulk had showings that made him pretty much what Marvel peg him as "The strongest one there is".

Pak's evolution of Hulk into Green Scar have, instead of lifting Hulk definitively beyond Thor, merely served to push Savage Hulk below Thor (so that the pretence can be introduced that Thor and Green Scar are roughly equals).

It's interesting to observe these kinds of dynamics at play in online communities... KMC's bias is perhaps also informed by previous forummers who used to create deranged Hulk vs threads - some guy called Asian Hulk or something... but there is a strong desire to revise history in light of the Hulk's established evolution, so as to maintain the "balance of powers" (that is currently only a pretence).

Originally posted by red sabre
are you retarded or some shit? i just pointed out SBP feats, how the hell can pointing out his feats be ignorant at any point? dude you are just a phuckin fail seriously i brought you feats of SBP which put hulk to shame, so i understand why you choose to whine and be butthurt about that but seriously if you expect anyone to believe you then you are even dumber than i thought.

You really didn't prove anything. You brought up Prime moving planets which is well within Savage Hulk capabilities. You brought up Prime punches changing reality in a room where the walls itself controlled time and again, it was repeated by another character. Prime has been in PLENTY of fights, and Prime doesn't hold back and he didn't cause close to the amount of damage Hulk caused with a single hit. Your fts was lame.

Originally posted by red sabre
are you retarded or some shit? i just pointed out SBP feats, how the hell can pointing out his feats be ignorant at any point? dude you are just a phuckin fail seriously i brought you feats of SBP which put hulk to shame, so i understand why you choose to whine and be butthurt about that but seriously if you expect anyone to believe you then you are even dumber than i thought.
that's twice now that you've proven yourself both ignorant and hot-headed.

1) providing 'feats' for one-side whilst claiming lack of feats for the other, is indeed IGNORANT.

2) being really really angry and quick to insult people and label them "retards" is, much like the vehemence of your previous posting, not going to make your erroneous assertions any less wrong.

Originally posted by janus77
There's quite a few Savage Hulk feats that pretty much rival WBH (if not surpass it).
It's very easy to forget that decades before Greg Pak came along, Hulk had been toppling Eternals, busting dimensions and ripping apart the very fabric of the universe. And back then, people would argue the toss between Hulk and Thor. And Marvel would present them as equals, with the proviso that Thor needs Mjolnir to stand a chance against Hulk.

Our forum arguments used to be closer to their comic depictions back then, Hulk vs Juggernaut - eternal stalemate. Hulk vs Thor - split/chose your favourite.

Even then, it was easy to point out that Savage Hulk/Hulk had showings that made him pretty much what Marvel peg him as "The strongest one there is".

Pak's evolution of Hulk into Green Scar have, instead of lifting Hulk definitively beyond Thor, merely served to push Savage Hulk below Thor (so that the pretence can be introduced that Thor and Green Scar are roughly equals).

It's interesting to observe these kinds of dynamics at play in online communities... KMC's bias is perhaps also informed by previous forummers who used to create deranged Hulk vs threads - some guy called Asian Hulk or something... but there is a strong desire to revise history in light of the Hulk's established evolution, so as to maintain the "balance of powers" (that is currently only a pretence).

Seriously, stop acting like KMC has a unified agenda against Hulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Seriously, stop acting like KMC has a unified agenda against Hulk.
There is a clear and observable bias - nobody quibbles over feats as much as when they are attributable to Hulk. You may not observe it, or rather not wish to observe it, given your own bias, but it is there.

Originally posted by janus77
There is a clear and observable bias - nobody quibbles over feats as much as when they are attributable to Hulk. You may not observe it, or rather not wish to observe it, given your own bias, but it is there.

There's as much bias for and against Hulk as there is for other popular characters including Superman, Thor, Wolverine, etc.

Hulk's not the KMC victim you try to paint him out to be.

Originally posted by carver9
You really didn't prove anything. You brought up Prime moving planets which is well within Savage Hulk capabilities. You brought up Prime punches changing reality in a room where the walls itself controlled time and again, it was repeated by another character. Prime has been in PLENTY of fights, and Prime doesn't hold back and he didn't cause close to the amount of damage Hulk caused with a single hit. Your fts was lame.


My computer is ripped up and I can only post scans if I quote someone so I'm quoting myself since this isn't directed towards anyone.

Here is Prime stomping..

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/scatter.jpg

Here is WBH taking a step.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/WBHfootstepdoesitagain2.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/WBHfootstepdoesitagain3.jpg

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
There's as much bias for and against Hulk as there is for other popular characters including Superman, Thor, Wolverine, etc.

Hulk's not the KMC victim you try to paint him out to be.

To be honest Jake, I kind of agree with him. I see what you are saying, I agree with you to an extent as well but Hulk is clearly downplayed by the majority.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
If by followers , you mean fanboys , then there is only one Thanos "follower" on this board , and we all know who that is . quan or nihilus

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
There's as much bias for and against Hulk as there is for other popular characters including Superman, Thor, Wolverine, etc.

Hulk's not the KMC victim you try to paint him out to be.
Again, you're biased against him, so you naturally would chose not to see it, but think on these two things:

1) Savage Hulk = Thor + Mjolnir, as established in more or less every fight Marvel depicted.

2) Savage Hulk wrecked The Avengers.

Now from these, note that Green Scar is the evolution of Hulk, his powers exponentially increased.

Now view the forums and see how much he is downplayed. How much feats such as nearly taking down the Eastern Seaboard with a simple footstep are argued over time and again, how the mere concussive backwash of HOTM is diminished by many here, as being merely "planetary level" or "planet busting" ...

People have different favourites, it's true, but Hulk is perhaps the only major Marvel hero that regularly kicks off against other Marvel heroes. This naturally makes him the "B" in everybody's A-B-C logic. If Hulk mows down some character, then they worry that it makes their favourite look bad in comparison ... Nobody gives a damn when Surfer nonchalantly dusts a planet with a wave of his hand or when Gladiator/BRB wreck small planets with many punches/hammer swings ... because they don't regularly face off against their favourite characters.

Originally posted by Uriel005
quan or nihilus
those two are Vicar and altar-boy in The Church of Thanos, but there's a definite congregation too...

Originally posted by janus77
Again, you're biased against him, so you naturally would chose not to see it, but think on these two things:

1) Savage Hulk = Thor + Mjolnir, as established in more or less every fight Marvel depicted.

2) Savage Hulk wrecked The Avengers.

Now from these, note that Green Scar is the evolution of Hulk, his powers exponentially increased.

Now view the forums and see how much he is downplayed. How much feats such as nearly taking down the Eastern Seaboard with a simple footstep are argued over time and again, how the mere concussive backwash of HOTM is diminished by many here, as being merely "planetary level" or "planet busting" ...

People have different favourites, it's true, but Hulk is perhaps the only major Marvel hero that regularly kicks off against other Marvel heroes. This naturally makes him the "B" in everybody's A-B-C logic. If Hulk mows down some character, then they worry that it makes their favourite look bad in comparison ... Nobody gives a damn when Surfer nonchalantly dusts a planet with a wave of his hand or when Gladiator/BRB wreck small planets with many punches/hammer swings ... because they don't regularly face off against their favourite characters.

If I'm biased against Hulk, then you must be a completely objective party when it comes to the character, right?

Savage Hulk = Thor + Mjolnir (Even though, 90% of the time, Thor does have Mjolnir with him as it's a part of his standard equipment and has become an integral part of who he fundamentally is as a character, anyway) when Thor fights on Hulk's level in a purely physical contest. When Thor invokes his power output and versatility, he brings more to the table than Hulk can, as evidenced by feats. How or why this is even being disputed or argued to this day is beyond me.

The rest of this post is basically you, again, crying foul about how you feel Hulk is treated unfairly by the forum, which is funny, because you then turn around and I suppose counter-troll or attempt to gain justice for Hulk or something with posts that are pretty obviously attempting to bait others.

It's getting old and tired at this point. And I've said the same thing about people who claim that Superman is treated unfairly on KMC and then post bitter remarks and show their glaring butt hurt for the world to see, so there's no bias here.

Hell, I don't think the forum is "biased against Thor" when some posters choose to ignore his entire history in favor for low showings. I just accept some people just don't like Thor and some people overrate him.

To that end, Hulk isn't special at all and if you could take off the gamma hued lens, you'd see that.

Aside from mocking, do you have anything to say about the fact that people go crying to the mod to restrict a character? that they are still downplaying HOTM, just so that the pretence of a parity between Hulk and their favourite character, can remain?

Your entire post has been just one long attempt at ignoring the point.

As for baiting ... the past year has seen an explosion in Hulk/Carver-baiting on KMC, it's pretty clear when people throw Hulk into fights between abstracts...

I have a question. Couldn't Odin enchant the Hulk or augment his physical stats during this battle?

Originally posted by Stoic
I have a question. Couldn't Odin enchant the Hulk or augment his physical stats during this battle?


Why would he even need to do that though?

Originally posted by janus77
Aside from mocking, do you have anything to say about the fact that people go crying to the mod to restrict a character? that they are still downplaying HOTM, just so that the pretence of a parity between Hulk and their favourite character, can remain?

Your entire post has been just one long attempt at ignoring the point.

As for baiting ... the past year has seen an explosion in Hulk/Carver-baiting on KMC, it's pretty clear when people throw Hulk into fights between abstracts...

People have gone to mods to completely ignore the power set of speed due to h1 style arguments, change the tiers to reflect a character's standing based on one event, and God knows what else. Comes with the territory.

People hate on Hulk, yeah. Sucks, but it's true. People also hate on Superman, Thor, Wolverine, etc. I've not denied that Hulk gets shit on in threads, but he's not the only character who does, so this attempt to make Hulk special in that he's the only one who gets this unfair treatment just doesn't jive well with me.

There's been an explosion in stupid threads in general. Carver brings a lot of it on himself - and relishes in it at times - but he doesn't have a copyright claim on absurdity.

Originally posted by Stoic
I have a question. Couldn't Odin enchant the Hulk or augment his physical stats during this battle?

Yeah, he actually could. Whether or not he would in the midst of battle is sketchy.

Originally posted by carver9
Why would he even need to do that though?

WB Hulk's inability to hang with Prime in a fight may be one reason. His strength is comparable, and his durability may be as well, but the speed advantage goes to Prime. He would need an equalizer, and Odin could give him that equalizer. The honest truth, is that Prime could swiftly grab any Hulk about the ankles, and toss him across the solar system in a true fiction type battle, effectively putting him out of the battle. Prime would then return to the battle, and tag team Odin with the help of Tyrant. I'm highly doubting that Odin could take on Tyrant and Prime. Just my opinion.

Without Odin enchanting the Hulk, he just can't win. C'mon let's be honest here Carver.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, he actually could. Whether or not he would in the midst of battle is sketchy.


Oh and Odin's quasi cosmic/magical shields could likely hold team two off long enough for Odin to enchant the Hulk. I don't see why the All Father would not do this. His wisdom has been said to be pretty good in the past.

Originally posted by Stoic
Oh and Odin's quasi cosmic/magical shields could likely hold team two off long enough for Odin to enchant the Hulk. I don't see why the All Father would not do this. His wisdom has been said to be pretty good in the past.
He's also headbutted Galactus... I'm not sure if he's fully recovered from that 'feat' yet.


I'm surprised Dp Tyrant is rated so lowly though.

Originally posted by Stoic
WB Hulk's inability to hang with Prime in a fight may be one reason. His strength is comparable, and his durability may be as well, but the speed advantage goes to Prime. He would need an equalizer, and Odin could give him that equalizer. The honest truth, is that Prime could swiftly grab any Hulk about the ankles, and toss him across the solar system in a true fiction type battle, effectively putting him out of the battle. Prime would then return to the battle, and tag team Odin with the help of Tyrant. I'm highly doubting that Odin could take on Tyrant and Prime. Just my opinion.

Without Odin enchanting the Hulk, he just can't win. C'mon let's be honest here Carver.


I disagree and Prime doesn't go around blitzing an entire match. That's like me saying "Hulk goes around Umar dimension thunderclapping the entire match". By the way, when has Prime bfred anyone?

Originally posted by janus77
He's also headbutted Galactus... I'm not sure if he's fully recovered from that 'feat' yet.


I'm surprised Dp Tyrant is rated so lowly though.

Odin was fine the moment he awoke, and the only reason that he lost to Galactus was that he got up slightly after Galactus. IMO that battle could easily have gone the other way.

In my opinion
DP Tyrant is a solid mid Sky Father.
Odin is a High Sky Father.
Superboy Prime is a Solid Mid - High Trans
WB Hulk is a Low - Mid Trans (Low due this his inability to truly fly. High due to growth potential).

This is how I see them.

Originally posted by carver9
I disagree and Prime doesn't go around blitzing an entire match. That's like me saying "Hulk goes around Umar dimension thunderclapping the entire match". By the way, when has Prime bfred anyone?


That's besides the point. Prime has the power to speed in grab his ankles and toss his across the galaxy. As quickly as I though of it, would be as quickly as Prime could think of it, and execute said plan. This fight depends on Odin's first move.

The Hulk is the weakest on the field in terms of ability. There comes a time where credit must be given where it is due. Prime is simply too fast for WB Hulk to hang with in a true battle. Of course if you want to exploit Prime by saying that he is too stupid to BFR from the start, be prepared for another poster to exploit, and low-ball WB Hulk.

This battle could go either way, but it's Odin's battle to lose.

Prime has actually used his speed plenty in battle

Originally posted by Stoic
That's besides the point. Prime has the power to speed in grab his ankles and toss his across the galaxy. As quickly as I though of it, would be as quickly as Prime could think of it, and execute said plan. This fight depends on Odin's first move.

The Hulk is the weakest on the field in terms of ability. There comes a time where credit must be given where it is due. Prime is simply too fast for WB Hulk to hang with in a true battle. Of course if you want to exploit Prime by saying that he is too stupid to BFR from the start, be prepared for another poster to exploit, and low-ball WB Hulk.

This battle could go either way, but it's Odin's battle to lose.


Stoic, these characters "fight in character". We don't imaginary make up a way these people combat. Prime never blitzed someone continuously and the time he did bfr Black Adam wasn't intentionally.

Prime is a brawler...you might want to relook at his battles...speed wasnt an issue with Prime, it was his physical stats, his speed and strength.

Why wouldnt WBH be able to hang with Prime? Show me these Prime combat fts you are talking about. WBH combat power seem more impressive anyways.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Prime has actually used his speed plenty in battle

Show me him continuously blitzing someone in combat.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me him continuously blitzing someone in combat. Show you scans of him doing what only Flashes do?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Show you scans of him doing what only Flashes do?

Exactly. I never said Prime doesn't have speed but he isn't fighting like a Flash either and he sure hell isn't unhittable. Prime is just as much of a bruiser as Hulk is.

Odin vs Depowered Tyrant & Superboy Prime, would be the fight. WBH would die very fast.

Didn't Prime BFR Anti Monitor?

Prime has the strength to fly straight thru WBH the same way too

Originally posted by juggerman
Didn't Prime BFR Anti Monitor?

Prime has the strength to fly straight thru WBH the same way too

Antimonitor was weakened. Doesn't WBH have fts of accomplishing something a skyfather was unable to achieve? Also crushing a dimensional barrier put into place by a skyfather with a simple clap.

Originally posted by carver9
Exactly. I never said Prime doesn't have speed but he isn't fighting like a Flash either and he sure hell isn't unhittable. Prime is just as much of a bruiser as Hulk is. I didn't accuse you of saying anything..Hes a faster bruiser

Antimonitor's durability is superior to WBH so if he could fly thru his armor he can fly thru WBH's body probably killing him.

WBH's strength is far superior to his durability

Originally posted by juggerman
Antimonitor's durability is superior to WBH so if he could fly thru his armor he can fly thru WBH's body probably killing him.

WBH's strength is far superior to his durability

The people Thor has damaged is superior to Prime and they weren't weakened when Thor damaged them so with that said, a Mjlonir toss would kill Prime. Your argument is terrible since we don't have a recollection of where the Monitor durability was at since again, he was weakened.

Originally posted by carver9
Antimonitor was weakened. Doesn't WBH have fts of accomplishing something a skyfather was unable to achieve? Also crushing a dimensional barrier put into place by a skyfather with a simple clap. Not only that, but Anti Monitor was fighting tons of herald levels on Earth, and even released his antimatter. I don't have to tell you that the Earth stayed intact.

WBH > AM

Good point. But Prime's HV cut thru Superman easily and Prime was weakened when this happened. Unless you want to argue that WBH's durability> Superman's durability then Prime could easily cut Hulk in half right?

Originally posted by juggerman
Good point. But Prime's HV cut thru Superman easily and Prime was weakened when this happened. Unless you want to argue that WBH's durability> Superman's durability then Prime could easily cut Hulk in half right?

Wouldn't Hulk's healing factor be able to recover from that fairly quickly?

Originally posted by janus77
that's your perception, posts say otherwise. case in point the ludicrous idea that Hulk "died off-panel" in HOTM.

Of course, because your perception can't possibly be flawed, right?

And no, posts don't say otherwise, unless you're picking and choosing to help your case.

There are a few characters who get just as much if not more scrutiny than Hulk, and have been getting it for longer too.

Originally posted by janus77
There is a clear and observable bias - nobody quibbles over feats as much as when they are attributable to Hulk. You may not observe it, or rather not wish to observe it, given your own bias, but it is there.

No, it really isn't. Not any more than it exists for other characters anyway.

Originally posted by carver9
To be honest Jake, I kind of agree with him. I see what you are saying, I agree with you to an extent as well but Hulk is clearly downplayed by the majority.

No, he isn't. Though I find it amusing that you would complain about a character being downplayed.

Originally posted by juggerman
Good point. But Prime's HV cut thru Superman easily and Prime was weakened when this happened. Unless you want to argue that WBH's durability> Superman's durability then Prime could easily cut Hulk in half right?


Yes, I think WBH is far more durable than Supes.