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Rank them from best to worse in telepathy:

- Xavier
- Thanos
- Emma Frost
- Regular human with mind gem
- Moondragon
- Moondragon with mind gem
- Silver Surfer
- Loki
- Jean Grey ( no Phoenix)
- Odin

Odin
Thanos
Moondragon
Loki

No one else.

IMO:

Odin
Thanos
Moondragon with Mind Gem
Classic Moondragon
Xavier
Silver Surfer
Emma Frost
Jean Grey with No Phoenix
Regular Human with mind gem
Loki (Not sure about this one... I think he uses more illusions on the mystical side than straight astral battling and psi stuff)

Surfer beat Thanos in Astral combat. :-p

Imho

Odin
Thanos
Moondragon with Mind Gem
Loki
Classic Moondragon
Xavier
Silver Surfer
Emma Frost
Jean Grey with No Phoenix
Regular Human with mind gem

You all are ranking Xavier too low.

^where would you put him

Originally posted by Glorificus
IMO:

Odin
Thanos
Moondragon with Mind Gem
Classic Moondragon
Xavier
Silver Surfer
Emma Frost
Jean Grey with No Phoenix
Regular Human with mind gem
Loki (Not sure about this one... I think he uses more illusions on the mystical side than straight astral battling and psi stuff)

This sounds roughishly right to me. Maybe have Loki below Frost (MAYBE).

A regular human with the Mind Gem (Parker Robins) was beating Xavier in a telepathic showdown and doing so subconsciously without fully tapping into the gem.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
^where would you put him

Isnt Xavier one of the most powerful TPs in MU?

I can't see Emma mindrapeing loki if she couldn't do that to Thor

not sure why most of you put odin at the top.. yeah he is at skyfather level, but that doesnt mean that hes the most powerful TP, and i havent seen any panel wherein he did something impressive with TP

Originally posted by 8swords
not sure why most of you put odin at the top.. yeah he is at skyfather level, but that doesnt mean that hes the most powerful TP, and i havent seen any panel wherein he did something impressive with TP Because he's the only one who managed anything against Galactus in TP.

By contrast, Galactus basically winked and pushed Xavier/Magneto's shit in. And an alternate Galactus acted like Xavier was a cat hair on his hand.

Thanos got his shit pushed in too, but not as bad as Xavier.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because he's the only one who managed anything against Galactus in TP.

By contrast, Galactus basically winked and pushed Xavier/Magneto's shit in. And an alternate Galactus acted like Xavier was a cat hair on his hand.

Thanos got his shit pushed in too, but not as bad as Xavier.

so just by that he is the best TP?

He's also easily altered the minds of everyone in planet Earth.

That too, but the Galactus feat is better.

Originally posted by 8swords
so just by that he is the best TP? Uh... yes.

Galactus is so far above anyone on this list it's insane. Odin doing anything in tp to him is a crazy feat (maybe too good, but I digress).

Regular human with mind gem FTW.

Odin
Thanos
Loki
Moondragon with Mind Gem
Silver Surfer
Classic Moondragon
Xavier
Jean Grey with No Phoenix
Emma Frost

Thanos had help from Moondragon to mess with Galactus' mind

Odin,
Surfer,
Thanos,
...
the rest

Surfer mind ****ed the whole planet without missing a beat. He's destroyed psionic artefacts that even Galactus couldn't detect (dunno how that works, but if Odin can enjoy PIS against Galactus, why not Surfer). And he's shared his consciousness with inanimate objects - he clearly has both flexibility AND power when it comes to TP.

Thanos, mostly because he mind-controlled Savage Hulk (Avengers Assemble Hulk isn't exactly articulate so...).

^moondragon mindraped surfer in infinity Crusade

- Odin
- Shaman X-Man
- Moondragon with mind gem
- Thanos
- Regular human with mind gem
- Xavier
- Emma Frost
- Moondragon
- Loki
- Silver Surfer
- Jean Grey ( no Phoenix)

Moondragon also but down Hulk with a mind attack

Originally posted by pym-ftw
^moondragon mindraped surfer in infinity Crusade
was that with the gem or without?
I don't recall reading that.

And my standard response applies here, Surfer jobs. It's what the Power Cosmic is best at.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
A regular human with the Mind Gem (Parker Robins) was beating Xavier in a telepathic showdown and doing so subconsciously without fully tapping into the gem.

But didn't he have other gems as well?

The gems all work together synergistically, IIRC, so it could have been the combo overpowering Xavier.

And I wouldn't call the Hood a regular human either...

It was stated that it was specifically the Mind Gem being used to push back Xavier and it was repeatedly stated that Robins was the least experienced Gem wielder to date.

Originally posted by janus77
was that with the gem or without?
I don't recall reading that.

And my standard response applies here, Surfer jobs. It's what the Power Cosmic is best at.


It was with the gem and it was Professor Hulk. Happened when he fought PG Drax.

Moondragon with mind gem is above Thanos or not, and why ?

Odin
Thanos
Mind Gem Moondragon
Classic Moondragon/ Scrub w/ gem
Xavier/Emma
Jean sans PF

Idk about Surfer.