Thor vs Wrecking Crew in Pure Melee Fight

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Starscream M
Thor does not have Mjolnir and cannot use energy powers.

Can he beat the Wrecking Crew?

Gecko4lif
Yup

JakeTheBank
Yes, it is possible.

pym-ftw
Thor > Iron Fist purely physically

So yeah

Harbinger
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Thor > Iron Fist purely physically

So yeah Reported for Blasphemy.

cdtm
*Galactus roams city*

Spider-man: This is really the end of the world! *To Cap* I'm freaking out! Why aren't you freaking out?

Cap: Because I can hear it.

Spider-man: Hear what?

Cap: The sound of thunder.



Powers and the hammer are what Thor uses to take on Galactus and Celestials. I think he can handle the Crew with his bare hands. big grin

janus77
Thor dies.

Damborgson
Thor catches wreckers crow bar again and beats the hell out of the crew with it. Even in strict melee he'd be to much for them in the end.

iceman24567
Thor wins more than not

-K-M-
Do the Crew have their weapons or are they fighting melee too?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Thor > Iron Fist purely physically

So yeah

FYI, The Crew have easily beat IF too.

Starscream M
Originally posted by -K-M-
Do the Crew have their weapons or are they fighting melee too?
the crew has their weapons

-K-M-
Then Crew if they don't job, they could even get 10/10 via BFR.

You guys are nuts to say he easily beats them without his hammer. With their weapons they have forcefields, teleportation, ability to absorb energy or suck one's strength (Thunderball did it to Hercules), energy blast that ripped a hole in reality, magical spells, illusions, telepathy, etc.

carver9
Use the Wrecker from the New Avengers when they first started andi would give him the majority against Thor. That Wrecker was a BEAST.

abhilegend
^Rhino beat their ass down and three-shotted wrecker. Thor isn't in rhino's class, yet.

-K-M-
and Wrecker has one-shotted Savage Hulk

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Use the Wrecker from the New Avengers when they first started andi would give him the majority against Thor. That Wrecker was a BEAST.
Luke cage koed wrecker by throwing a car at him in that comic.

-K-M-
No he didn't

iceman24567
carv has selective memory

abhilegend
Originally posted by -K-M-
and Wrecker has one-shotted Savage Hulk
That was in Jurassic age. Savage hulk fluctuated too much, but at calm stage he is slightly above namor in general. Good feat but not that great.

-K-M-
Carv is correct in this instance

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abhilegend
Originally posted by -K-M-
No he didn't
I recall luke koing him when jessica distracted him.

-K-M-
Originally posted by abhilegend
I recall luke koing him when jessica distracted him.

Hit him with his own crowbar and got him stuck in Spider-Man's webbing and the fight ended.

iceman24567
Not getting how carver is correct no expression

-K-M-
Wrecker wasn't ko'ed by a car in the instance he was talking about.

iceman24567
Everything carv said was actually wrong though....

abhilegend
Originally posted by -K-M-
Hit him with his own crowbar and got him stuck in Spider-Man's webbing and the fight ended.
My bad. But smacking around that team is nothing big. Luke hit him with a car after he returned, no? Its a long time since I read that comic.

carver9
That was a good showing for Wrecker. The team was getting stomped until Spider Woman manipulated him.

iceman24567
Good showing my ass even Cage acknowledge that they went in like idiots and to add insult to injury Wreckers confidence was crushed by a few Wolverine claw swipes if he slugs it out with Thor hes going to end up dead

-K-M-
Originally posted by abhilegend
My bad. But smacking around that team is nothing big. Luke hit him with a car after he returned, no? Its a long time since I read that comic.

No. Wrecker hit Cage and sent him flying into a car and that ko'ed him. Cage didnt hit him with a car.

-K-M-
Originally posted by iceman24567
if he slugs it out with Thor hes going to end up dead

He has slugged it out with Thor many times before

Regardless all Wrecker has to do it wave his hand and the match is over

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Silent Master
Thor wins

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
He has slugged it out with Thor many times before

Regardless all Wrecker has to do it wave his hand and the match is over

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2. http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/Thor148-13.jpg Yeah we know hes a Thor villain. Its not in Wreckers character to bfr

-K-M-
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah we know hes a Thor villain. Its not in Wreckers character to bfr

Actually he has done it a few times, even unintentionally. As his energy blasts have ripped holes in relaity when he didn't even mean too.

Silent Master
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah we know hes a Thor villain. Its not in Wreckers character to bfr


Besides, How would the Wrecker BFR Thor in a pure melee fight?

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor wins

How?

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually he has done it a few times, even unintentionally. As his energy blasts have ripped holes in relaity when he didn't even mean too. A few times doesn't cut it Wrecker is a moron granted he can get a couple wins via bfr or exotics the majority of the time it will be a slugfest

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
Besides, How would the Wrecker BFR Thor in a pure melee fight?

Crew have their weapons, ONLY Thor doesn't.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Starscream M
Thor does not have Mjolnir and cannot use energy powers.

Can he beat the Wrecking Crew?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Do the Crew have their weapons or are they fighting melee too?.

Originally posted by Starscream M
the crew has their weapons

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
Crew have their weapons, ONLY Thor doesn't. Hmm but its still a MELEE fight. I dont know it doesnt seem powers are allowed but who knows but Brucie

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
Crew have their weapons, ONLY Thor doesn't.

And per the rules, they can only use them for melee.

So again, how is the Wrecker going to BFR Thor?

-K-M-
Originally posted by iceman24567
A few times doesn't cut it Wrecker is a moron granted he can get a couple wins via bfr or exotics the majority of the time it will be a slugfest

It does when he can do it on his own power as well as accidently and shown he has done it as well as teleported himself and others to various locations MANY times. It was even referenced recently when he fought Deadpool he could do that.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
And per the rules, they can only use them for melee.

So again, how is the Wrecker going to BFR Thor?

I asked if they were fighting melee and he didn't say.

With a wave of his hand.

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
It does when he can do it on his own power as well as accidently and shown he has done it as well as teleported himself and others to various locations MANY times. It was even referenced recently when he fought Deadpool he could do that. No it really doesn't i agree he can bfr but its not a likely option for him no more than it is for Thor or any other slobberknocker type character

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
I asked if they were fighting melee and he didn't say.

With a wave of his hand. Why does he have to say when its in the title. Also thats not what he meant hes saying bfr is impossible in the specific match if its strictly melee

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
I asked if they were fighting melee and he didn't say.

With a wave of his hand.

The thread says it's a pure melee fight.

-K-M-

-K-M-
Originally posted by iceman24567
Why does he have to say when its in the title. Also thats not what he meant hes saying bfr is impossible in the specific match if its strictly melee

Because in the actual thread he mentioned Thor didn't have his hammer, but later on I asked if the Crew had weapons and he said they do. That was not listed in the title or first post erm

Originally posted by Silent Master
The thread says it's a pure melee fight.

and I asked for more clarification and they got their weapons which wasnt in the title or first post. Regardless even if it is just a slugfest Thor is NOT easily walking through them

iceman24567
Nobody in this thread ever said it would be an easy win unless i went blind.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Because in the actual thread he mentioned Thor didn't have his hammer, but later on I asked if the Crew had weapons and he said they do. That was not listed in the title or first post erm



and I asked for more clarification and they got their weapons which wasnt in the title or first post. Regardless even if it is just a slugfest Thor is NOT easily walking through them
I don't care anymore this confusion is annoying im just going to assume its no exotics strictly melee its the smartest bet

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
Because in the actual thread he mentioned Thor didn't have his hammer, but later on I asked if the Crew had weapons and he said they do. That was not listed in the title or first post erm

The actual thread states that this is a pure melee fight.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
The actual thread states that this is a pure melee fight.

Depending on where you get the definiton a pure melee is hand to hand fighting NOT with weapons

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
Depending on where you get the definiton a pure melee is hand to hand fighting NOT with weapons

If he had meant HTH only, he wouldn't have had to state Thor doesn't get his hammer or energy attacks, plus the Wrecking Crew wouldn't be allowed their weapons either.

iceman24567
Yeah im going with this match being a fight without exotics

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
If he had meant HTH only, he wouldn't have had to state Thor doesn't get his hammer or energy attacks, plus the Wrecking Crew wouldn't be allowed their weapons either.

There is NO restrictions of exotic powers in a melee, in strict H2H YES, but not in a melee. Regardless Thor without weapons and Crew with weapons puts him at a HUGE disadvantage

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
That's the definition of melee

Dictionary.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/melee
"a confused hand-to-hand fight or struggle among several people."

Oxford Dictionary
http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/melee
"a situation in which a crowd of people are rushing or pushing each other in a confused way"

Free Dictionary.com
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Melee+combat
"Confused, hand-to-hand fighting in a pitched battle."

Again, If he had meant HTH only, he wouldn't have had to state Thor doesn't get his hammer or energy attacks, plus the Wrecking Crew wouldn't be allowed their weapons either.

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
There is NO restrictions of exotic powers in a melee, in strict H2H YES, but not in a melee. Regardless Thor without weapons and Crew with weapons puts him at a HUGE disadvantage You think he actually looked up melee before making this thread? We can guess his actual intentions why restrict Thor to no powers but give his rouges no handicap?

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, If he had meant HTH only, he wouldn't have had to state Thor doesn't get his hammer or energy attacks, plus the Wrecking Crew wouldn't be allowed their weapons either.

That's the point, H2H can from it's definition be used with weapons or without. Melee is a close quarters free for all and is no restrictions

EDIT: Who removed my definitions from my post?

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
That's the point, H2H can from it's definition be used with weapons or without. Melee is a close quarters free for all and is no restrictions

EDIT: Who removed my definitions from my post? My penis did

-K-M-
Originally posted by iceman24567
You think he actually looked up melee before making this thread? We can guess his actual intentions why restrict Thor to no powers but give his rouges no handicap?

So when it comes to I was right with what I was saying until he gives more clarification.

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
That's the point, H2H can from it's definition be used with weapons or without. Melee is a close quarters free for all and is no restrictions

EDIT: Who removed my definitions from my post?

Feel free to post examples from this board where exotic attacks are allowed in melee only threads.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
Feel free to post examples from this board where exotic attacks are allowed in melee only threads.

Ok? Why would I do that? Most people would say hand to hand fighting in their threads not melee as melee is different from strict hand to hand. That's the correct usage of melee compared to hand to hand.

Do I care if its changed to no exotic powers? Not entirely. This could still end up as a push

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
Ok? Why would I do that? Most people would say hand to hand fighting in their threads not melee as melee is different from strict hand to hand. That's the correct usage of melee compared to hand to hand.

Because the thread was posted on this board, therefore we go by this boards definition of melee, not what you think it should mean.

In fact, here is another melee only thread from the OP and guess what, exotic powers are banned.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=546764&highlight=title%3A%28melee%29+forumid%3A77

-K-M-
Right! So the incorrect definition, you don't see the faulty logic in that? If it was an error sure that's not a problem but as I said based on the actual definition there is allowed exotic powers. He mentioned Thor no exotic powers didn't say anything about the Crew. As I have said many times melee is different from strict hand to hand fighting.

EDIT: under melee coniditions OR could still use his tentacles.

Silent Master
In fact, here is another melee only thread from the OP and guess what, exotic powers are banned.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...29+forumid%3A77

-K-M-
Keep arguing the incorrect usage of melee thumb up

Also ignore the fact in the threads you posted he additionally clarified his stipulations. While here he didn't mention originally the Crew get weapons and ONLY mentioned Thor doesn't get a weapon or use his exoitc powers and nothing about the Crew. So since nothing was said you go with what your given and what the correct usage of melee is and thus...we come full circle. If he says no exotic powers for the Crew? Sure, not a big deal that's just clarification and an added stipulation which he has done in those other threads too.

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
Keep arguing the incorrect usage of melee thumb up

I'm arguing the one used by the person that started this thread, which only makes sense, considering he's the one that sets the rules for the match.

iceman24567
Both of you can shut up now

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm arguing the one used by the person that started this thread, which only makes sense, considering he's the one that sets the rules for the match.

Yet he set the rules for THOR, NOT the Crew. Nor did he mention anything about the Crew getting their weapons until I asked. As I said if no exotic powers for the Crew that's fine, he can do that but he didn't mention that ONLY for Thor.

iceman24567
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/iceman2456/scottpilgrimblamkill.gif

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yet he set the rules for THOR, NOT the Crew. Nor did he mention anything about the Crew getting their weapons until I asked. As I said if no exotic powers for the Crew that's fine, he can do that but he didn't mention that ONLY for Thor.

Originally posted by iceman24567
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-K-M-
Two children

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
Two children You are the one fighting like your life is on the line or something. Don't know why its so important for you to be right i really don't care

-K-M-
Sure did idiot

Originally posted by -K-M-
Do I care if its changed to no exotic powers? Not entirely. This could still end up as a push

Originally posted by -K-M-
If he says no exotic powers for the Crew? Sure, not a big deal that's just clarification and an added stipulation which he has done in those other threads too.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Ye. As I said if no exotic powers for the Crew that's fine, he can do that but he didn't mention that ONLY for Thor.

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
Sure did idiot
Yup 3 nearly identical posts you must be at gun point

-K-M-
Clearly or the fact I had to repeat myself as you guys were too dense to get it thumb up

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
Clearly or the fact I had to repeat myself as you guys were too dense to get it thumb up Says the guy claiming people said Thor wins easily when nobody ever did thumb up. Also i understood what you meant on page three dickhead thats why i stopped

-K-M-
Originally posted by iceman24567
Says the guy claiming people said Thor wins easily when nobody ever did thumb up. Also i understood what you meant on page three dickhead thats why i stopped

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor catches wreckers crow bar again and beats the hell out of the crew with it. Even in strict melee he'd be to much for them in the end.

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
The crowbar thing seems kinda pretentious but no where in that post do i see easily or stomp hell hes a know Thorbag and he said " Even in strict melee he'd be to much for them in the end"

-K-M-
Stating that Thor will catch Wrecker's crowbar (again?) and beat him and the crew without isnt beating someone with ease? Too much means he is still superior to them, didn't mention it would be close just that Thor was suprior.

iceman24567
Originally posted by -K-M-
Stating that Thor will catch Wrecker's crowbar (again?) and beat him and the crew without isnt beating someone with ease? Too much means he is still superior to them, didn't mention it would be close just that Thor was suprior. I already admitted the crow bar thing was a bit much

-K-M-
Well there you go, hence where my comment was coming from.

Sixth_Winged
Unless he got sneak attacked by the crowbar again, he'd murder these chumps in h2h. Maybe wrecker can hang in a while would he have not powershared with the crew.

cdtm
Originally posted by -K-M-

FYI, The Crew have easily beat IF too.

If you're talking about their first meeting in his series..

Not easily.

Wrecker didn't seem to think so. Danny was getting his licks in.

Anyways, Thor's KOed Gilgamesh with his bare hands. And taken it to Hulk... Gilg and Hulk would murder the Wrecking Crew.

At best, they give Thor a workout, but they're basically mid tier bricks at best..

Starscream M
wow...didn't realize semantics could lead to such entertaining back and forth

when I say melee, I basically mean physical combat without range attacks

in my book, HTH is melee without weapons

so in this thread, Crew gets their weapons but do not get to use any energy or range attacks

JakeTheBank
In which case Thor wins.

cdtm
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In which case Thor wins.

Pff, mjolnir-less Thor would beat them with their weapons too. wink

The Sorrow
Thor more often than not.

-K-M-

-K-M-
Oh once again people saying Thor would win easily *facepalm*

Silent Master
The only one using the term "easily", is you.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
The only one using the term "easily", is you.

ORLY?

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Unless he got sneak attacked by the crowbar again, he'd murder these chumps in h2h. Maybe wrecker can hang in a while would he have not powershared with the crew.

Originally posted by cdtm
Pff, mjolnir-less Thor would beat them with their weapons too. wink

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
ORLY?

I didn't see the word "easily" anywhere in those posts.

-K-M-
Straight up murder them is not easily beating them? Or using their own weapons against them isn't beating them easily? Even Iceman thought that was a bit much when someone said the same thing earlier.

Silent Master
Originally posted by -K-M-
Straight up murder them is not easily beating them? Or using their own weapons against them isn't beating them easily? Even Iceman thought that was a bit much when someone said the same thing earlier.

I don't see anyone saying "Straight up murder" either, also how does disarming someone and then using their weapon aginst them = easy?

Edit: Ok, I found the murder comment, still that is only one person, why are you throwing such a fit?

-K-M-
Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't see anyone saying "Straight up murder" either, also how does disarming someone and then using their weapon aginst them = easy?

Do you struggle with english?

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Unless he got sneak attacked by the crowbar again, he'd murder these chumps in h2h. Maybe wrecker can hang in a while would he have not powershared with the crew.

right...even Iceman disagrees with you

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor catches wreckers crow bar again and beats the hell out of the crew with it. Even in strict melee he'd be to much for them in the end.

Originally posted by iceman24567
The crowbar thing seems kinda pretentious but no where in that post do i see easily or stomp hell hes a know Thorbag and he said " Even in strict melee he'd be to much for them in the end"

Originally posted by -K-M-
Stating that Thor will catch Wrecker's crowbar (again?) and beat him and the crew without isnt beating someone with ease? Too much means he is still superior to them, didn't mention it would be close just that Thor was suprior.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I already admitted the crow bar thing was a bit much

Silent Master
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-K-M-
Concession accepted.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Silent Master
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-K-M-
Making this easy for me thumb up

Silent Master
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-K-M-
and yet I'm not the one posting pics and gifs when I was proven wrong. Oh the irony. What else you got?

Silent Master
Not a single person said easy and only one person used the term murder, how exactly does that justify the hissy fit you're throwing?

-K-M-
Murdering them in battle doesn't mean beating them easily? Taking an opponent's weapon and beating them with it as well as the team doesn't mean beating someone easily? Even your supporter Iceman disagreed with it.

Grasping key concepts and verbage is not your strongest suit. You're the one that started it and thus were proven wrong and your rebuttal was posting random pics and gifs. Perhaps you should just stop posting here?

Silent Master
How exactly was I proven wrong?

-K-M-
Deja vu.

Silent Master
So you're just going to keep throwing a hissy fit because one person used the term "murder"?

-K-M-
Nope, even Iceman said beating the Crew with their own weapons was over the top. This was said how many times now? Oh wait...deja vu....

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yup 3 nearly identical posts you must be at gun point

Originally posted by -K-M-
Clearly or the fact I had to repeat myself as you guys were too dense to get it thumb up

Anymore pearls of wisdow? Or perhaps a quirky pic and/or gif?

Silent Master
I'll take that as a yes.

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