Zealot vs Ironfist

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Supermutant
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pym-ftw
Lord Rand

Branlor Swift
The sword only served to hold them together... so Bruce could slip his tip in

Danny on the other hand jams his fist in there

StyleTime
^ thumb up

Zealot wins a fisting from Danny.

Galan007
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The sword only served to hold them together... so Bruce could slip his tip in

Danny on the other hand jams his fist in there Some might argue that the Bat-tip = the God-fist.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
Some might argue that the Bat-tip = the God-fist.

I demand scans.

vansonbee
I wonder how the Batman fan base reacted to Zealot penetrating him and making him work it. He was totally mess up much worst, compared to his own universe fights.

Regarding the fight. I'm going with Danny, but he will work for it like Batman, but unless him, he will win.

Digi
It's a shame we can't have serious threads anymore about certain characters. This would be a good fight.

Supermutant
Zealot absorb the energy of Capt Atom using her sword, I think she could absorb the Iron Fist's chi. In h2h she has speed and can read opponents like Taskmaster. I give her the majority against Danny.

Sixth_Winged
I think Zealot misunderstood the roles of both gender and what needs to be shoved in on that scan.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Digi
It's a shame we can't have serious threads anymore about certain characters. This would be a good fight.

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Doom and Iron Fist are the worst for that.

BruceSkywalker
great match.. love both characters..

m torn here, but I think should be able to hold her own and win a slight majority 6/10

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srankmissingnin
Zealot should take the majority.

Mindset
Originally posted by -K-M-
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Doom and Iron Fist are the worst for that. Because no one can beat them.Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Zealot should take the majority. Majority of Danny's fist in her anus.

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Mindset
Because no one can beat them.
Except for Squirrel Girl(who can do it with ease) , I agree no one can .

guy222
danny wins

cdtm
Originally posted by Digi
It's a shame we can't have serious threads anymore about certain characters. This would be a good fight.

Agreed on the first part.

Disagree on the second. stick out tongue

Strip away the "Lord Rand" religious dogma, and you're still left with a character who's at the top end of the meta tier in terms of overall speed..

Basically, I'll put it like this: Spidey is the absolute top of meta speed. He's the measuring stick.. Past Spidey, you start looking at full on speedsters, like Quicksilver, Speed Demon, and guys like that.. Danny, he's quick enough to make Spidey work for it, imo, without any sort of PIS.

From what I've read of Wildstorm, Zealot simply isn't as fast. She's not "slow" per say... But, if this was Spidey vs Zealot, I can't see Zealot even keeping up with Spidey... He'd just blitz her non stop, until she dropped.

And once you establish Danny is faster, it's pretty much over, because his offensive abilities are ridiculous for his tier...

Golgo13
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Zealot should take the majority.

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srankmissingnin
Originally posted by cdtm
Agreed on the first part.

Disagree on the second. stick out tongue

Strip away the "Lord Rand" religious dogma, and you're still left with a character who's at the top end of the meta tier in terms of overall speed..

Basically, I'll put it like this: Spidey is the absolute top of meta speed. He's the measuring stick.. Past Spidey, you start looking at full on speedsters, like Quicksilver, Speed Demon, and guys like that.. Danny, he's quick enough to make Spidey work for it, imo, without any sort of PIS.

From what I've read of Wildstorm, Zealot simply isn't as fast. She's not "slow" per say... But, if this was Spidey vs Zealot, I can't see Zealot even keeping up with Spidey... He'd just blitz her non stop, until she dropped.

And once you establish Danny is faster, it's pretty much over, because his offensive abilities are ridiculous for his tier...

Do you wear velcro shoes?

Batman-Prime
Zealot wins with her sword, hands down.

ilikecomics
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Do you wear velcro shoes?

this is almost in mind set's echelon of hilarity.

Harbinger
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Do you wear velcro shoes?
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1320851_o.gif

cdtm
I think I've traced the root of the Church of Rand.. Basically, it's all Christopher Priests fault.

Before Priest, you had most prominently Claremont, who wrote a pretty powerful Rand, but who could only give Luke Cage a good fight. Even with his Iron Fist, he could not knock Cage out.

Then Priest came along, and in his very, very short run, he gives us this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_PowerManandIronFist113-ThePromise-21.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_PowerManandIronFist113-ThePromise-22.jpg

Knocks out Bres. That muscle guy is Super Skrull, btw, who Bres is manhandling. Also, Bres did all of this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_Avengers226_03a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_Avengers226_03b.jpg

So Priest has Danny straight up KO a guy Thor and She Hulk working together beat using weakness exploitation. O_o

Three issues later, Priest unravels Claremonts take on Iron Fist vs Power Man:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_PowerManandIronFist116-1985-14.jpg

I know everyones seen this scan, though. But still, that's two BIG feats for Danny in a short time under Priest.

And here's the third big one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_PowerManandIronFist120-Dragonslayer-05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_PowerManandIronFist120-Dragonslayer-05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_PowerManandIronFist120-Dragonslayer-16.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_PowerManandIronFist120-Dragonslayer-18.jpg

Besides Danny beating on a friggan dragon, Cage can't even knock him out with a sucker punch to the back of the head. Oh, and that dragon also beat THE DEFENDERS.. O_O

I love Iron Fist, and I love Priest, but sometimes Priest is almost on par with Ennis when it comes to downplaying characters, imo...

cdtm
Ironically, even though Priest laid the ground work for the modern Iron Fist, he also killed Iron Fist off at the end of his run. Byrne would later revive him, and Danny would go to one mediocre run after another, with a nice moment or two like KOing a drunk Herc, but basically being a mid tier overlooked character, until the awesome Iron Fist series by Brubaker and Fraction, which many see as the official coming out party for The Fist into the big leagues. But personally, I credit Priest, not only because of his original work that established Danny's really friggan powerful, but also this more recent story that's been passed around the web since forever:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_BlackPanther39p05.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_BlackPanther39p11.jpg

cdtm
Continued:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_BlackPanther39p12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/th_BlackPanther39p14-1.jpg

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Annd, that's ALL of Priest work on Black Panther. Almost a "Greatest Hits", ain't it? All you need is the Helicarrier KO and the train scene, and that's basically the most popular IF scans that gets tossed around.

IMO, if it wasn't for Priest, Brubaker and Fraction's series never would have happened, and the stuff that came later like New Avengers never would have happened, and Danny would have been remembered as a mid tier Bruce Lee ripoff with a magic fist..

Anyways, before getting accused of derailing this thread, I think the scans I've posted are also a good argument, in and of themselves, as to why Danny wins this fight..

Mindset
Originally posted by ilikecomics
this is almost in mind set's echelon of hilarity. Despite it's immense hilarity, srank is wrong.

cdtm
Originally posted by Supermutant
\In h2h she has speed..

Scans of her speed?

cdtm
Originally posted by Mindset
Despite it's immense hilarity, srank is wrong.

Accusing someone of wearing "retard shoes" is usually only funny when the one making the insult is not the one one making retarded arguments..

Pretty much everyone claiming X is faster than Danny is just babbling without any sort of proof.

I think I might be the only "real" Iron Fist fan on KMC.

And in general, the "Anti Church of Rand" camp provide as much substance as the "Church of Rand" side they're arguing against.

srankmissingnin
I love how cdtm is always "Iron Fist >>>>>>>>>>>>> streets! Look at what he has done!"

... and then he cites just the most mundane feats in Iron Fist repertoire. facepalm

Browse the Captain America or Batman respect threads one day. You're head will explode.

Lek Kuen
Originally posted by cdtm

I think I might be the only "real" Iron Fist fan on KMC.



Well that was mean sad

Mindset
Originally posted by cdtm

I think I might be the only "real" Iron Fist fan on KMC.
Leave this place and never come back. no expression

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Mindset
Leave this place and never come back. no expression

http://manhattaninfidel.com/__oneclick_uploads/2011/06/smeagol1.jpg

JakeTheBank
laughing

cdtm
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I love how cdtm is always "Iron Fist >>>>>>>>>>>>> streets! Look at what he has done!"

... and then he cites just the most mundane feats in Iron Fist repertoire. facepalm

Browse the Captain America or Batman respect threads one day. You're head will explode.


I take it back.. KMC does have "real" Iron Fist fans. All of them are smart enough to avoid wasting time trying to seriously debate with posters who seriously argue Wolverine can tank Hulk level blows..

Which is why we get these troll threads.

And than you wonder why spammers run down KMC.... (Nice job joining in, Jake. You're a good poster, but feeding trolls is kind of beneath you..

Mindset, I have nothing against. ^_^)

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by cdtm
I think I might be the only "real" Iron Fist fan on KMC.
I was defending Fist here when you were a sperm in the ballsack of KMC.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by cdtm
I take it back.. KMC does have "real" Iron Fist fans. All of them are smart enough to avoid wasting time trying to seriously debate with posters who seriously argue Wolverine can tank Hulk level blows..

Which is why we get these troll threads.

And than you wonder why spammers run down KMC.... (Nice job joining in, Jake. You're a good poster, but feeding trolls is kind of beneath you..

Mindset, I have nothing against. ^_^)

I'm a Grand Cleric in the Order of the Fist, bro.

cdtm
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I was defending Fist here when you were a sperm in the ballsack of KMC.

*Sigh* See my latest post.

Look, I'm the "last" person to buy into "The internet is serious business".. But if one lets the trolls run free, eventually trolls is all you'll be left with.

Trying to make a coherent argument is basically a waste of time, when the only people quoting them are guys like Srank..

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by cdtm
I take it back.. KMC does have "real" Iron Fist fans. All of them are smart enough to avoid wasting time trying to seriously debate with posters who seriously argue Wolverine can tank Hulk level blows..

Which is why we get these troll threads.

And than you wonder why spammers run down KMC.... (Nice job joining in, Jake. You're a good poster, but feeding trolls is kind of beneath you..

Mindset, I have nothing against. ^_^)

Wolverine can tank Hulk level blows. He's been doing it for close to four decades. Maybe if you start reading comics instead of regurgitating scans from respect threads, you'd actually become knowledgeable to post here without looking like a joke.

You think Coleen Wing can beat Captain America... you are a retard. Like fully retarded. I fell like all your posts should end with "Written by X, as dictated by cdtm," because someone as stupid as you being able to communicate via written language defies believability. All these other guys are trolling with their Church of Rand bs... but you actually believe. It would be sad if it wasn't so humorous.

Branlor Swift
I feel like this thread just got interesting

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by Digi
It's a shame we can't have serious threads anymore about certain characters. This would be a good fight.

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