Galactus vs Team Trans

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keiththegreat
Galactus just ate one planet.

vs

Thanos
OF Thor (JMS run)
Bor
OWAW Sundipped Superman
GA Superboy Prime
Sodam Yat Ion
Balder in Destroyer Armor
Worldbreaker Hulk
Kuurth
Power Cosmic Rulk with energy draining ability


Fight in a giant, closed arena the size of Texas.

No BFR

carver9
Where does the battle take place?

keiththegreat
Originally posted by carver9
Where does the battle take place?

Edited.

carver9
It depends on how Galactus starts this battle off.

Nihilist
Lol Carver


Galactus wins

Cogito
Theoretically Galactus should win, but he's been significantly hurt by power well within the abilities of this team.

He goes down here

Dampyre
Galactus.

Zack Fair
Big G just ate a planet.

Just sayin'.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Cogito
Theoretically Galactus should win, but he's been significantly hurt by power well within the abilities of this team.

He goes down here This.

phuck implied power

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by Cogito
Theoretically Galactus should win, but he's been significantly hurt by power well within the abilities of this team.

He goes down here

thumb up

Mindset
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
This.

phuck implied power It's not implied power.

He actually has feats that put him on the level of his status.

Utrigita
Galactus for the win imo. He will have to work harder then he should have had BFR been enabled.

pym-ftw
Big G if he fights

TheGodKiller
Considering how an injured Thor was able to bust through his helmet and cause him considerable agony , the team could likely pull of a slight majority here .

Team ftw 5.5-6/10 .

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Considering how an injured Thor was able to bust through his helmet and cause him considerable agony , the team could likely pull of a slight majority here .

Team ftw 5.5-6/10 . Do we consider that Galactus tanked an amped Godblast as well when he was ready for it, or does that get ignored?

Also, Galactus hasn't even fought heroes when he wasn't weakened, so there's that as well (to earlier statements). The Fraction Thor example is the only time when he wasn't stated to have been weakened (nor fed, but I digress).
Nor did that cause him considerable agony. He kept on with his tp battle with Odin without missing a beat.

celeyhyga17
Galactus

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Do we consider that Galactus tanked an amped Godblast as well when he was ready for it, or does that get ignored?

Also, Galactus hasn't even fought heroes when he wasn't weakened, so there's that as well (to earlier statements). The Fraction Thor example is the only time when he wasn't stated to have been weakened (nor fed, but I digress).
Nor did that cause him considerable agony. He kept on with his tp battle with Odin without missing a beat.
An amped Godblast(?) which was focused on two other Abstracts as well .

Yup and most of the heroes he has fought in a non-jobbing mode were usually not even herald level . Or is there an instance that you know of in which he(fed on only one world) fought a team of ten trans characters w/o breaking a sweat or sustaining any damage ?

Him screaming out in pain when Thor rammed into his head doesn't indicate that it caused him considerable pain/agony ? Not to mention that a trans-level character has launched a fed Galactus 100's of yards outside of his ship , with a single energy blast .

"Nor fed" you say . What about the opening pages in TMT # 1 , in which he is SHOWN eating an uninhabited world ?
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7055157/The_Mighty_Thor_1_005.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7055158/The_Mighty_Thor_1_006.jpg.html
As you can see , it doesn't matter whether it was stated or not , because Fraction/Coipel went further and SHOWED us him eating a planet(immediately prior to Surfer detecting the Galactus Seed) .

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
An amped Godblast(?) which was focused on two other Abstracts as well .

Yup and most of the heroes he has fought in a non-jobbing mode were usually not even herald level . Or is there an instance that you know of in which he(fed on only one world) fought a team of ten trans characters w/o breaking a sweat or sustaining any damage ?

Him screaming out in pain when Thor rammed into his head doesn't indicate that it caused him considerable pain/agony ? Not to mention that a trans-level character has launched a fed Galactus 100's of yards outside of his ship , with a single energy blast .

"Nor fed" you say . What about the opening pages in TMT # 1 , in which he is SHOWN eating an uninhabited world ?
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7055157/The_Mighty_Thor_1_005.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7055158/The_Mighty_Thor_1_006.jpg.html
As you can see , it doesn't matter whether it was stated or not , because Fraction/Coipel went further and SHOWED us him eating a planet(in preparation for upcoming his war with Asgard) . By Thor and two people, yes. It hit everyone. Why would that reduce the effectiveness when it was such a wide attack?

Non jobbing mode? He's only fought them in a hungry mode. And many of them were herald level.
I don't know how you just said that the G-Blast hit two abstracts but neglected to remember Galactus also taking their attacks to no real effect.
No he hasn't fought ten trans characters but in your own words he's fought two abstract level characters...

Which adding onto this, one of them created thousands of Surfer's and Thors, and the Other defeated those Surfer's and Thors. So...

He immediately pushed Odin over the edge in TP right after that attack. You know, the attack where he wasn't protecting himself at all and Thor almost knocked himself out doing.
It's funny that it's a bad acceptable feat in Galactus threads, but it's a non feat in Thanos threads. Just funny how feats can change at the drop of a hat.
Either way, Galactus was thrown yes, but no lasting damage, and it's not quite in line with his history (the whole arc for that matter).

I was wrong there, I'll admit (curse those one read arcs), but it still doesn't change too much. Galactus gets "hurt" by Thor when he gets cheapshotted and isn't defending himself at all that caused no lasting damage or no real concern and that's the reason he loses? You know the guy has shields right?

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
By Thor and two people, yes. It hit everyone. Why would that reduce the effectiveness when it was such a wide attack?

Non jobbing mode? He's only fought them in a hungry mode. And many of them were herald level.
I don't know how you just said that the G-Blast hit two abstracts but neglected to remember Galactus also taking their attacks to no real effect.
No he hasn't fought ten trans characters but in your own words he's fought two abstract level characters...

Which adding onto this, one of them created thousands of Surfer's and Thors, and the Other defeated those Surfer's and Thors. So...

He immediately pushed Odin over the edge in TP right after that attack. You know, the attack where he wasn't protecting himself at all and Thor almost knocked himself out doing.
It's funny that it's a bad acceptable feat in Galactus threads, but it's a non feat in Thanos threads. Just funny how feats can change at the drop of a hat.
Either way, Galactus was thrown yes, but no lasting damage, and it's not quite in line with his history (the whole arc for that matter).

I was wrong there, I'll admit (curse those one read arcs), but it still doesn't change too much. Galactus gets "hurt" by Thor when he gets cheapshotted and isn't defending himself at all that caused no lasting damage or no real concern and that's the reason he loses? You know the guy has shields right?
It only hit the Abstracts , and its yet to be proven that it was even a Godblast , since throughout the history of the attack , it has usually always been represented as a thick , directed energy beam of sorts , not a supermassive barrage of lightning , and whenever Thor performed it , either he himself or the narrative mentioned that it was going to be the GB , or something to the effect of "let mine godly life-force/energies be united with the uru mallet Mjolnir" was stated by Thor . Its chances of being a godblast is just as likely as this super-amped energy blast against Arishem being one :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/57606/1417670-arishem_deflects002_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/57606/1417672-arishem_deflects003_super.jpg

Are you referring to the Secret Wars mini ? Because one showing doesn't discount the fact that in general , at hungry/starving levels , Galactus can(and has been) beaten by teams of heroes .

Many of them ? I only recall Thor along with the Surfer and/or Strange(depending on whether he's a herald or not) perhaps and maybe the Hulk on a very good day among those teams whom he no-sold , in general . The only time I recall when he fought a team of heralds was when he was resurrected by Franklin/Valeria and then proceeded to lay the smackdown on them .

Was it proven that those doppelgangers were equal to the originals ? Because a lot of time in comics , clones(especially when they are large in numbers , which leads to the ninja effect) , tend to be cheap knock-offs of the original . The same query also applies to the team of Novas that Galactus owned in the above paragraph .

We don't know what his level of hunger was when he fought those 2 other Abstracts . And those 2 Abstracts were fighting each other as well . Also , the first blow from one(Galactus himself) of those three Abstracts , struck one(Rachel) of the 3 heralds as well , yet in subsequent pages she appeared none the worse for wear .

The original point was that Thor did cause him pain . It wasn't a killing blow , but based on G screaming in agony , it did cause considerable hurt . Him continuing on with his tp battle merely indicates that his willingness/determination and endurance to continue a fight is greater than his pain threshold . Doesn't really show that he no-sold the attack .
I don't care about that as I rarely use(or even mention) that feat in either Thanos or Galactus threads . No lasting damage was done , although one must also consider that Thanos had come to primarily warn Galactus of what he was doing , not engage in extended combat(although he did prepare for possible violence in the ensuing confrontation) with him .
Also , from that very showing , Thanos can very likely shield himself and the team in this thread . Galactus expends himself in the process of shattering it and then the team unloads on the now weakened Galactus , beating him(sustaining a couple of or many losses in the process) .

I can definitely see arguments being made on both sides , and that's why I gave the team only a very slight majority .

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It only hit the Abstracts , and its yet to be proven that it was even a Godblast , since throughout the history of the attack , it has usually always been represented as a thick , directed energy beam of sorts , not a supermassive barrage of lightning , and whenever Thor performed it , either he himself or the narrative mentioned that it was going to be the GB , or something to the effect of "let mine godly life-force/energies be united with the uru mallet Mjolnir" was stated by Thor . Its chances of being a godblast is just as likely as this super-amped energy blast against Arishem being one :
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/57606/1417670-arishem_deflects002_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/57606/1417672-arishem_deflects003_super.jpg

Are you referring to the Secret Wars mini ? Because one showing doesn't discount the fact that in general , at hungry/starving levels , Galactus can(and has been) beaten by teams of heroes .

Many of them ? I only recall Thor along with the Surfer and/or Strange(depending on whether he's a herald or not) perhaps and maybe the Hulk on a very good day among those teams whom he no-sold , in general . The only time I recall when he fought a team of heralds was when he was resurrected by Franklin/Valeria and then proceeded to lay the smackdown on them .

Was it proven that those doppelgangers were equal to the originals ? Because a lot of time in comics , clones(especially when they are large in numbers , which leads to the ninja effect) , tend to be cheap knock-offs of the original . The same query also applies to the team of Novas that Galactus owned in the above paragraph .

We don't know what his level of hunger was when he fought those 2 other Abstracts . And those 2 Abstracts were fighting each other as well . Also , the first blow from one(Galactus himself) of those three Abstracts , struck one(Rachel) of the 3 heralds as well , yet in subsequent pages she appeared none the worse for wear .

The original point was that Thor did cause him pain . It wasn't a killing blow , but based on G screaming in agony , it did cause considerable hurt . Him continuing on with his tp battle merely indicates that his willingness/determination and endurance to continue a fight is greater than his pain threshold . Doesn't really show that he no-sold the attack .
I don't care about that as I rarely use(or even mention) that feat in either Thanos or Galactus threads . No lasting damage was done , although one must also consider that Thanos had come to primarily warn Galactus of what he was doing , not engage in extended combat(although he did prepare for possible violence in the ensuing confrontation) with him .
Also , from that very showing , Thanos can very likely shield himself and the team in this thread . Galactus expends himself in the process of shattering it and then the team unloads on the now weakened Galactus , beating him(sustaining a couple of or many losses in the process) .

I can definitely see arguments being made on both sides , and that's why I gave the team only a very slight majority . It only hit the abstracts... don't see your point there.
Yes, the look of it. It's not exactly in Galactus' history to fire red lightning either. Therefore, we should conclude Galactus never fired anything because it didn't look right. Stupid argument.

But wait, the first Godblast on panel was lightning and bands of force waves...
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir52-Godblast161.jpg

So the look is defeated, but being one with the hammer, well, let's see about that... Keep in mind the wording is different, but that's likely due to this being the only time Thor hasn't talked while doing it.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Scrier%20and%20Other/ThorAnnual037.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Scrier%20and%20Other/ThorAnnual038.jpg

The blast was so powerful it actually knocked all three of them out bad enough that Galactus had to wake them up. So obviously it must have been pretty weak.

Galactus at his weakest levels ever made a team of Gladiator, Thor, Iron Man, Thing, etc retreat while fighting the Kree/Shi'ar. Beat a team of Wonder Man, Surfer, Thor, SW, Sue, Vision, AM in the Suit. The Secret Wars fiasco. One feat in particular seems interesting to bring up where he basically blinked and almost killed Xavier, Magneto, and a bunch of X-Men... considering Xavier's recent feats anyway. Meh. Weakened Galactus sucks.
He's been beaten twice off the top of my head while weakened by heroes (one was in a dimension where his powers weren't working, and the other was when he was rapidly shrinking and got hit by a Strange's "Stare"wink. OMG. Now let's look at the difference between weakened and powered Galactus (besides the Godblast).
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_12.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_13.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_15.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_17.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_18.jpg

It's obviously not a big gap.

No, however the mere fact that they were easily being defeated by the Greys, and with the army they were able to run quite a bit of them proves they were decently powerful. Plus, the only reason Surfer/Thor survived is because of an anti vortex and Rachel helping them get away and attack. Otherwise they would have been treated just like the canon fodder army.

They were fighting Galactus, not each other at that time.
And the heralds were shielded, and the attack wasn't even directed at them. It also took them 3 pages to "join the fray" as well.

It kind of does though. If you get hurt that bad, you'd figure that the first thing to be affected would be the mind and concentration. Yes it hurt him, but considerable pain and agony it did not cause.
Plus, Galactus again has shields and isn't locked in a mind battle with someone more powerful than any single being in this thread besides himself.

But you mentioned it here. Thanos was the one who fired off the first attack.
Sure if we base Galactus entirely around the questionable writing in the Thanos mini, then the team probably wins. But if we actually take other things into account, you know, practically every other feat ever where Galactus doesn't drain his power that fast even when hungry, then it starts to look questionable.
Galactus fought In-Betweener in a weakened state after coming out of a coma. Clearly Thanos' forcefields should drain him. Same with his immensely destructive fight with Mephisto. He started that off weak as well, yet clearly the one blast on Thanos should tax him more than a whole fight.
Either that or Thanos has abstract-esque shields... This should go into KMC circulation IMO.

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It only hit the abstracts... don't see your point there.
Yes, the look of it. It's not exactly in Galactus' history to fire red lightning either. Therefore, we should conclude Galactus never fired anything because it didn't look right. Stupid argument.

But wait, the first Godblast on panel was lightning and bands of force waves...
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir52-Godblast161.jpg

So the look is defeated, but being one with the hammer, well, let's see about that... Keep in mind the wording is different, but that's likely due to this being the only time Thor hasn't talked while doing it.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Scrier%20and%20Other/ThorAnnual037.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Scrier%20and%20Other/ThorAnnual038.jpg

The blast was so powerful it actually knocked all three of them out bad enough that Galactus had to wake them up. So obviously it must have been pretty weak.

Galactus at his weakest levels ever made a team of Gladiator, Thor, Iron Man, Thing, etc retreat while fighting the Kree/Shi'ar. Beat a team of Wonder Man, Surfer, Thor, SW, Sue, Vision, AM in the Suit. The Secret Wars fiasco. One feat in particular seems interesting to bring up where he basically blinked and almost killed Xavier, Magneto, and a bunch of X-Men... considering Xavier's recent feats anyway. Meh. Weakened Galactus sucks.
He's been beaten twice off the top of my head while weakened by heroes (one was in a dimension where his powers weren't working, and the other was when he was rapidly shrinking and got hit by a Strange's "Stare"wink. OMG. Now let's look at the difference between weakened and powered Galactus (besides the Godblast).
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_12.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_13.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_15.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_17.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/Absorbing/brb_03_18.jpg

It's obviously not a big gap.

No, however the mere fact that they were easily being defeated by the Greys, and with the army they were able to run quite a bit of them proves they were decently powerful. Plus, the only reason Surfer/Thor survived is because of an anti vortex and Rachel helping them get away and attack. Otherwise they would have been treated just like the canon fodder army.

They were fighting Galactus, not each other at that time.
And the heralds were shielded, and the attack wasn't even directed at them. It also took them 3 pages to "join the fray" as well.

It kind of does though. If you get hurt that bad, you'd figure that the first thing to be affected would be the mind and concentration. Yes it hurt him, but considerable pain and agony it did not cause.
Plus, Galactus again has shields and isn't locked in a mind battle with someone more powerful than any single being in this thread besides himself.

But you mentioned it here. Thanos was the one who fired off the first attack.
Sure if we base Galactus entirely around the questionable writing in the Thanos mini, then the team probably wins. But if we actually take other things into account, you know, practically every other feat ever where Galactus doesn't drain his power that fast even when hungry, then it starts to look questionable.
Galactus fought In-Betweener in a weakened state after coming out of a coma. Clearly Thanos' forcefields should drain him. Same with his immensely destructive fight with Mephisto. He started that off weak as well, yet clearly the one blast on Thanos should tax him more than a whole fight.
Either that or Thanos has abstract-esque shields... This should go into KMC circulation IMO.
Yeah , and according to you his showings/depiction in that Thanos mini are not quite in line with Galactus' history . Funny that you try to dismiss one particular showing because its not in line with comic book history according to you , yet accept the other w/o any qualms . When did I say they never fired anything ? There simply is no proof that it was a godblast . Sorry , but the Godblast has never been represented as a barrage of lightning , and your dismissal of my assertion as a "stupid argument" doesn't change that .

I don't see any lightning in those panels . Nor is there is a mention of it .

And "body,mind,emotion and spirit" equate to the godly asgardian life-force how exactly ?

Are you referring to time when he made Red-Shift his herald ? When his own ship was used against him , to turn him into a star ? IIRC , then he had been going on a crazy foodfest(due to his increasing hunger) during that story arc , and he had just devoured the planet Verdant , until that Kree/Shiar armada along with Earth's heroes attacked him . That doesn't really equate to "at his weakest levels ever" .
So you were referring to Secret Wars then .
Never denied that in a fed state he can no-sell teams of heroes(upto herald-level) . However , it can't be denied either that at hungry/starving levels , he can be beaten by similar teams of heroes .

Are you trying to imply that unfed/hungry/starving Galactus is == or close to fed Galactus ? Then Originally posted by Branlor Swift
This should go into KMC circulation IMO.

They were pretty close to the epicenter of Galactus' initial blast , and as you can see it shattered Surfer's shield , and Rachel was clearly hit by it .

Meh . Maybe my wording was inappropriate . Anyways ,the point was that he hurt Galactus sufficiently enough to cause the latter to scream in pain .

Thanos' shields taxed him . You can (selectively)dismiss it all you want , but there really is nothing to discuss here .
Btw , was it ever specifically mentioned or even alluded to that he was weak at the beginning of his fight with Mephisto ?

As I said before , I can see arguments being made on both sides . Which is why I only give the team a very slight majority , not w/o huge losses .

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yeah , and according to you his showings/depiction in that Thanos mini are not quite in line with Galactus' history . Funny that you try to dismiss one particular showing because its not in line with comic book history according to you , yet accept the other w/o any qualms . When did I say they never fired anything ? There simply is no proof that it was a godblast . Sorry , but the Godblast has never been represented as a barrage of lightning , and your dismissal of my assertion as a "stupid argument" doesn't change that .

I don't see any lightning in those panels . Nor is there is a mention of it .

And "body,mind,emotion and spirit" equate to the godly asgardian life-force how exactly ?

Are you referring to time when he made Red-Shift his herald ? When his own ship was used against him , to turn him into a star ? IIRC , then he had been going on a crazy foodfest(due to his increasing hunger) during that story arc , and he had just devoured the planet Verdant , until that Kree/Shiar armada along with Earth's heroes attacked him . That doesn't really equate to "at his weakest levels ever" .
So you were referring to Secret Wars then .
Never denied that in a fed state he can no-sell teams of heroes(upto herald-level) . However , it can't be denied either that at hungry/starving levels , he can be beaten by similar teams of heroes .

Are you trying to imply that unfed/hungry/starving Galactus is == or close to fed Galactus ? Then

They were pretty close to the epicenter of Galactus' initial blast , and as you can see it shattered Surfer's shield , and Rachel was clearly hit by it .

Meh . Maybe my wording was inappropriate . Anyways ,the point was that he hurt Galactus sufficiently enough to cause the latter to scream in pain .

Thanos' shields taxed him . You can (selectively)dismiss it all you want , but there really is nothing to discuss here .
Btw , was it ever specifically mentioned or even alluded to that he was weak at the beginning of his fight with Mephisto ?

As I said before , I can see arguments being made on both sides . Which is why I only give the team a very slight majority , not w/o huge losses . I'm not sure what you're replying to at first, but I can assure you that Galactus has never been drained that fast before, so trying to compare possible hypocritical statements doesn't work.
Galactus has high feats... many of them. Galactus has one encounter where he taxes himself with one blast. Balance that out

4th panel looks like lightning. More importantly though, it differs from every other visual appearance of the Godblast on panel, and it's the birth of the Godblast. Should we just ignore the look of the first one when talking about what they should look like. Whereas you're arguing about the look of a blast in a comic where Galactus was even firing lightning. As you can see, appearance isn't everything.

All that they are. Does all that Thor is not include his life force? Is Thor's life force seperate from everything that he is? Just chilling in another dimension waiting until Thor says "life force"?

Are you sure you read that series right? He was pretty much poisoned and every planet "eaten" barely did anything for him. He was driven mad from not ever having a full real meal and it basically equated to him living off a supply of candy.
Focusing on "weakest ever" matters little when he was weak, ill, etc in that series. And he made the Avengers retreat. There's more examples of a weakened Galactus beating or driving the heroes off than there is of him losing. Not exactly a good point to use.
http://i45.tinypic.com/n2hl7b.jpg

I was referring to times when he did. Not one specific instance.
And you completely failed to understand that Galactus has never fought a team of heroes while fed. The closest is the recent Thor annual.
And you also completely failed to realize that Galactus is fed here.

No... not at all. Did you even look at the scans? Galactus gets dropped while weakened by the armada, and as soon as he eats he one shots them. It's so simple I didn't think I needed to explain it.

Yes they were. Yet they got hit by the backlash of it as you can clearly see it enveloping Other and Scrier first and foremost.

And Rachel wasn't seen again for four pages while Thor and Surfer joined the fight in 3. She was shielded and still was dropped. Absolutely terrible feat for Galactus I guess.

I realize he was. But it was stupid. Galactus has never been weakened from firing one shot like that before or after. There is nothing to discuss.

Yes. It's right there on paper. Nova summons Galactus, Surfer fights her. Galactus one shots them, but damages the planet so he won't eat it. Leaves, Mephisto beats up Surfer, then Nova summons Galactus, and he fights Mephisto. All without eating the planet.
Here's just the panel where Galactus talks about not eating the planet.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/ssjd-43.jpg

And you're basing this entirely on weak Galactus and Thor hurting him. Great argument.

vince_slice
Galactus.

He's already one or two shot a couple of people on the list (e.g., Thanos and Loeb force Rulk). He could probably do the same to the other trans characters, more or less.

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