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1. Logia Intangibility is on.

2. Logia Intangibility is off.

They fight in Soul Society.

1) Yama gets an El Thor to the Face

2) Yama gets an El Thor to the Face

Well with logia intangibility of yama can't hit him but it is not like enel can actually do any significant damage to him without maxim. Though with intangibility of yamamoto would destroy him.

A single El Thor is about as powerful as Yamamoto's best attack actually.

Originally posted by NemeBro
A single El Thor is about as powerful as Yamamoto's best attack actually.

Yeah an El thor is as powerful as a city buster. Twit.

Really? I don't recall it being that powerful.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Yeah an El thor is as powerful as a city buster. Twit. A town buster actually.

Yamamoto never destroyed a city.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Really? I don't recall it being that powerful.

R u talking baout El thor or yammaoto's attack?

Originally posted by NemeBro
A town buster actually.

Yamamoto never destroyed a city.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-16/bleach/chapter-395.html
"An area Many times the size of this tiny town would've been reduced to ash" GTFO

And you stating it is a town buster still makes you look foolish as a El thor is not even remotely a town buster fail.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
R u talking baout El thor or yammaoto's attack?

El Thor.

Although now that I think of it, didn't he destroy that skypeople town with an El Thor? Or was that with Maxim?

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
tiny town Tiny. Lol.

Also:

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=15582

Enel's most casual attack = town buster.

Originally posted by Nephthys
El Thor.

Although now that I think of it, didn't he destroy that skypeople town with an El Thor? Or was that with Maxim?

Not sure though probably not El thor as it is not powerful enough nor big enough to wipe out a town. He was probably using maxim.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Tiny. Lol.

Also:

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=15582

Enel's most casual attack = town buster.

Aizen was talking down the town because it is a human town so he does not think much of it.
http://www.google.ca/imgres?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&biw=1271&bih=877&tbm=isch&tbnid=f8x4fh0gFJ4PDM:&imgrefurl=http://www.giantbomb.com/karakura-town/95-496/&docid=KQuaKw4s78BTzM&imgurl=http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/9535/274009-karakura_large.jpg&w=300&h=168&ei=U9xcUJWgFPS30AHH1YCQDg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=233&sig=101271425791532832150&page=1&tbnh=116&tbnw=207&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:91&tx=66&ty=90
this is not small

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=14333
disagrees

Nem, he has a point.

Originally posted by marwash22
Nem, he has a point.

You mean nem has a point or are you telling him that I have a point?

Oh and use this link for karakura town the other one is screwed!
http://www.giantbomb.com/karakura-town/95-496/

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
You mean nem has a point or are you telling him that I have a point? the latter.

Originally posted by marwash22
the latter.

Yay! Oh and let me guess are you an Emma Watson fan?

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w406/marwash20/274009-karakura_large_zpsc1d2dc1f.jpg

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Yay! Oh and let me guess are you an Emma Watson fan? lol, not really. it's a joke that's not really worth explaining.

Originally posted by marwash22
http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w406/marwash20/274009-karakura_large_zpsc1d2dc1f.jpg

lol, not really. it's a joke that's not really worth explaining.

LOL my fault for making presumptions!
And thanks for straight up putting the pick the town is extremely large massive in fact and especially in comparison to that floating rock enel calls a shrine that he destroyed which looks like the size of a village at best.

When did Yama destroy Karakura town again?

Originally posted by Nephthys
When did Yama destroy Karakura town again?

The power of his attack ennetsu jigoku had the power to destroy it and much more including the barrier urahara put around it.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
The power of his attack ennetsu jigoku had the power to destroy it and much more including the barrier urahara put around it.

When was that stated? If you are referring to when Aizen said in reference to Yama's flames that 'an area many times the size of this tiny town would've been reduced to ash", that was all of Yama's flames, not just Ennetsu Jigoku.

Besides which Yama needed to set up Ennetsu Jigoku, hence why he allowed Aizen to pwn his su8ordinates.

He didn't destroy jack squat that was worth anything. He tanked a nuke but that was about it.

And I've already be over the El Thor feat with that guy but I'll post it again:

http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2351-15/one-piece/chapter-244.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2351-16/one-piece/chapter-244.html

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Aizen was talking down the town because it is a human town so he does not think much of it.

Or, it's just not very big.

Your scan doesn't prove your point that well.

Unknown's has been accepted as the official and more up to date calc of that feat actually, as evidence on Enel's OBD wiki.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Or, it's just not very big.

Your scan doesn't prove your point that well.

Unknown's has been accepted as the official and more up to date calc of that feat actually, as evidence on Enel's OBD wiki.

How foolish aizen has always viewed humans and everything to do with them as pathetic which is why he can't stand the idea of being beaten by ichigo.

Yet another member agrees it does? The town is MASSIVE much bigger than a floating village.

Doesn't matter he basically blew up a village that was easier to destroy since it's base was easier to hit which made the rest collapse in a chain reaction nothing in comparison to karakura town.

Whereas Yama has blown up no towns.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
How foolish aizen has always viewed humans and everything to do with them as pathetic which is why he can't stand the idea of being beaten by ichigo.

This has nothing to do with anything.

It's not large.



Tell me how big.



He blew up the entire landmass.

A chain reaction?

You're reaching.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When was that stated? If you are referring to when Aizen said in reference to Yama's flames that 'an area many times the size of this tiny town would've been reduced to ash", that was all of Yama's flames, not just Ennetsu Jigoku.

Besides which Yama needed to set up Ennetsu Jigoku, hence why he allowed Aizen to pwn his su8ordinates.

Ennetsu jigoku was going to be used to destroy all the captains along with karakura town. Also that is how it's use is described on the wiki.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
He didn't destroy jack squat that was worth anything. He tanked a nuke but that was about it.

And I've already be over the El Thor feat with that guy but I'll post it again:

http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2351-15/one-piece/chapter-244.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2351-16/one-piece/chapter-244.html

Wow he burnt through a cloud.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This has nothing to do with anything.

It's not large.



Tell me how big.



He blew up the entire landmass.

A chain reaction?

You're reaching.

Actually it does considering you are the one who focused on aizen's specific words in "tiny town" where it actually isn't but him basically thinking of humans as inferior also goes for their civilizations and such. Your blind for even thinking for a second that karakura town is not huge.

What am I supposed to pull out a calculation? It is obviously big just by looking at it I do not need to give more proof. Much bigger than a rock with a measly village on it.

You suck.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Ennetsu jigoku was going to be used to destroy all the captains along with karakura town. Also that is how it's use is described on the wiki.


It's never stated that Ennetsu Jigoku would destroy Karakura town.

Something said on the Wiki is not proof.

http://c.mhcdn.net/store/manga/9/44-395.0/compressed/u13.jpg

That wasn't Ennetsu Jigoku, that was all the flames within Yamamoto's sword plus Ennetsu Jigoku.

Theres nothing that suggests that he can attack with everything he has. He needed time just to set up EJ, theres nothing suggesting he can actually vape an area many times the size of Karakura town.

i just posted what Rikudo was referring to so you guys could stop arguing the same point ad nauseam.

Well then thanks. Now everyone can see that I was right.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well then thanks. Now everyone can see that I was right. np.


here's where Captain Douche starts talking and gives the proper context.

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heres were he say's 'all your flames', not just EJ.

With EJ, he tells Ichigo to fall back out of the way, so the blast radius can't be that large. And he wouldn't do an attack that would break the barrier and destroy the real Karakura town.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That wasn't Ennetsu Jigoku, that was all the flames within Yamamoto's sword plus Ennetsu Jigoku.

Theres nothing that suggests that he can attack with everything he has. He needed time just to set up EJ, theres nothing suggesting he can actually vape an area many times the size of Karakura town.

I never said he was gonna dish out that kinda power at a fight since he needs prep but the fact that he tanked it makes his Yamamotos durability>>>whitebeards.

Now that we can agree on.

Originally posted by marwash22
np.


here's where Captain Douche starts talking and gives the proper context.


This the ej had the power to wipe karakura town.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Now that we can agree on.

I never said that he uses that in a fight so it was always agreed on but the fact he tanked that is why it was brought up as nemebro was under the impression that someone who was hurt by bullets and swords would actually have better durability than someone who tanked a city buster.

Wrong thread, actually, and you can't actually point out where I said Whitebeard was "more durable" than Yamamoto, I was only refuting your biased claim that Whitebeard isn't durable at all. I was just saying that Enel's El Thor has at least the same power output as Yamamoto, to be blunt, by feats Enel's power output is greater.

Try to keep up. You can't learn how to properly debate if you can't even learn how to stay consistent in your claims.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Yeah an El thor is as powerful as a city buster. Twit.

Here is you directly stating that the alleged "city buster" is an attack Yamamoto can pull out, when even if we take Aizen's quote at face value, the quote is referring to all the flames Yamamoto can conjure, not any single attack.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-16/bleach/chapter-395.html
"An area Many times the size of this tiny town would've been reduced to ash" GTFO

And you stating it is a town buster still makes you look foolish as a El thor is not even remotely a town buster fail.

Further proof supporting that you said he can use it as an attack (Also, notice you calling me foolish for something I proceeded to prove).

Oh, and Yamamoto was hurt by a "sword".

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Actually it does considering you are the one who focused on aizen's specific words in "tiny town" where it actually isn't but him basically thinking of humans as inferior also goes for their civilizations and such. Your blind for even thinking for a second that karakura town is not huge.

You haven't proved it.



Yes.



Reported for flaming.

Spite.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Wrong thread, actually, and you can't actually point out where I said Whitebeard was "more durable" than Yamamoto, I was only refuting your biased claim that Whitebeard isn't durable at all. I was just saying that Enel's El Thor has at least the same power output as Yamamoto, to be blunt, by feats Enel's power output is greater.

Try to keep up. You can't learn how to properly debate if you can't even learn how to stay consistent in your claims.



Here is you directly stating that the alleged "city buster" is an attack Yamamoto can pull out, when even if we take Aizen's quote at face value, the quote is referring to all the flames Yamamoto can conjure, not any single attack.



Further proof supporting that you said he can use it as an attack (Also, notice you calling me foolish for something I proceeded to prove).

Oh, and Yamamoto was hurt by a "sword".



You haven't proved it.



Yes.



Reported for flaming.
I only said he does not have the best durability cuz he doesn't. Not that it sucks it is just not as impressive as yamamoto's.

Get your facts straight you said ONE El thor is has the power of ennetsu jigoku which it doesn't. I never even said he can use that on the fly but you saying it is equal than his strongest attack which is ennetsu jigoku forces me to bring it up to sow you el thor is not on it's level. Regardless of if it needs prep and the fact is one el thor is not as it's biggest feat is destroying a tiny village on a island.
Karakura>>>Gods shrine.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v44/c395/7.html
At least do your research ennetsu jigoku was sealed into ww but his fire on his sword was sealed back into the sword. It is a city buster you twit.

lol you just got proved wrong and don't compare a shikai and/or bankai to fodder swords.

You can report me all you want it does not change the fact that you have no debating skills.

Dude your taking this way too seriously oh any Yamamoto has yet to show the speed or reaction time to actually block lightning. Also one El Thor is more powerful than anything Yamamoto has been shown to tank.

Then there's the issue of Yamamoto not being able to actually destroy Karakura town or even immediately set up the pillars.He tanked a city buster while Enel is a confirmed island buster. He also destory a small town with one El Thor regardless of whether or not it was on clouds: since said clouds were stable enough to support a large land mass and the entirety of Skypea.

Aizen hurt Yamamoto close-range and didn't burst into flames so who's to say Enel couldn't do the same.

also you really shouldn't throw around insults: not a very effective tactic here.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Aizen hurt Yamamoto close-range and didn't burst into flames so who's to say Enel couldn't do the same.
Yama wasn't using Bankai.

Lightning is in fact hotter than Yamamoto's fire.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_temperature_of_lightning

Originally posted by marwash22
Yama wasn't using Bankai.

I know but one of the Rikudo dude's arguments against either Enel(or Whitebeard) stated that they wouldn't touch Yamamoto w/o being scorched. I just wanted to prove that wasn't necessarily true.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Lightning is in fact hotter than Yamamoto's fire.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_temperature_of_lightning i wasn't claiming otherwise. just saying that if Aizen had fought Yama at close range while Yama was in Bankai, Aizen would have indeed died.Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I know but one of the Rikudo dude's arguments against either Enel(or Whitebeard) stated that they wouldn't touch Yamamoto w/o being scorched. I just wanted to prove that wasn't necessarily true. ah, ok.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Dude your taking this way too seriously oh any Yamamoto has yet to show the speed or reaction time to actually block lightning. Also one El Thor is more powerful than anything Yamamoto has been shown to tank.

Then there's the issue of Yamamoto not being able to actually destroy Karakura town or even immediately set up the pillars.He tanked a city buster while Enel is a confirmed island buster. He also destory a small town with one El Thor regardless of whether or not it was on clouds: since said clouds were stable enough to support a large land mass and the entirety of Skypea.

Aizen hurt Yamamoto close-range and didn't burst into flames so who's to say Enel couldn't do the same.

also you really shouldn't throw around insults: not a very effective tactic here.

Did you even read the thread? Yamamoto can take his El thor!
El thor is not stronger than a city buster!

I never said he can use the attack at his leisure so do not say I did. Enel island busted with maxim and his story about his home town was basically saying he rampaged around a eventually destroyed his town not necessarily the island or in a instant. And his El thor destroyed a village on a small floating rock on a island.

Yamamoto was not even using his bankai get your facts straight!

He has thrown numerous insults for me so payback is a *****!

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Lightning is in fact hotter than Yamamoto's fire.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_temperature_of_lightning

Surface of the sun while yamamoto is as hot as the core. So no his lightning is not even close.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I know but one of the Rikudo dude's arguments against either Enel(or Whitebeard) stated that they wouldn't touch Yamamoto w/o being scorched. I just wanted to prove that wasn't necessarily true.

I said that for whitebeard.

I did actually and nothing Yamamoto has done sugests he can dodge Lighning or tank muliple El Thors.

You also stated that Yamamoto could just burn peps when they get to close which wasn't the case with Aizen or the senior captains he school'd: they weren't cinders from fighting him for a few minutes. Besides Enel's attacks are ranged and he can move at lightning speeds along with having pre-cog. Luffy tagging him is all kinds of PIS.

Nemebro isn't all that serious.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I did actually and nothing Yamamoto has done sugests he can dodge Lighning or tank muliple El Thors.

You also stated that Yamamoto could just burn peps when they get to close which wasn't the case with Aizen or the senior captains he school'd: they weren't cinders from fighting him for a few minutes. Besides Enel's attacks are ranged and he can move at lightning speeds along with having pre-cog. Luffy tagging him is all kinds of PIS.

Nemebro isn't all that serious.

The El thors at full power destroyed a tiny as village on a rock big deal. He has already tanked loads of before. I said that when I was referring to him using bankai. Luffy tagging him shows that like kizaru he does not move at the speed of his element all the time.