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Piotr....... hard

Groots feats?

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Groots feats?

Pummeling Thanos. Twice.

Thanos eventually punched him away in their last fight, though.

Groot wins.

groot

Colossus, but it can switch to gription depending on battlefield

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Pummeling Thanos. Twice.

Thanos eventually punched him away in their last fight, though.

He smacked him away in both fights. Groot seemed more a nuisance than anything.

Colossus knocked Darkseid on his @ss one time.

Also, steel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wood.

^

Originally posted by pym-ftw
^

Groot.
He didn't just annoy Thanos, he was pummeling him very well.
I have no idea how or why, but he was.

Piotr is a ghurl.

I was wondering that myself. Groot did most of asskicking from the looks of it, never knew he's so tough.

Groot's brief showing against Thanos is like ten twenty times better than anything Colossus has done. The simple fact that he was allowed to do what he did propels him way past Colossus' tier.

Never in the history of ever will you see Colossus take the lead over Hulk or engage someone like Thanos the way Groot did. I can't even picture it in my head, Colossus has just been established as C-list for too long.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13621179/Avengers_Assemble-Zone-017.jpg.html

Look at the fear in Thanos's eyes.

What hope can Colossus have against someone who rendered the Mad Titan gutless?

Aside from the Thanos showing who else has Groot fought and defeated?

Groot.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Pummeling Thanos. Twice.

Thanos eventually punched him away in their last fight, though.

Wasn't he outta his mind

Groot.

IIRC, he also has pretty good regeneration.

Recently, groot had a decent showing against Savage Hulk. He should be able to take Colossus after a long fight.

You have scans? Because teenage Colossus kayoed Savage Hulk once.

Groot is about as strong as a moderately angry Savage Hulk. But Hulk would beat Groot into splinters if he got really pissed. In fact, that's just what he did to Groot when they fought back in the day. Though it should be noted the Groot of today is damn near a completely different character then the one Savage fought.


http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1383/hulkannual52.jpg

Originally posted by juggernaut74
You have scans? Because teenage Colossus kayoed Savage Hulk once.

Because that's representative of how Colossus would perform in a scenario without circumstances, right? He got the jump on a weakened Hulk that had calmed down.

Whether he knocked out Hulk is not only debatable by the way, but it couldn't have been more than a few moments. All it did was piss Hulk off.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
You have scans? Because teenage Colossus kayoed Savage Hulk once. lol. classic case of someone posting one scan out of a series. check the rest of it for the real story

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Because that's representative of how Colossus would perform in a scenario without circumstances, right? He got the jump on a weakened Hulk that had calmed down.

Whether he knocked out Hulk is not only debatable by the way, but it couldn't have been more than a few moments. All it did was piss Hulk off. Colossus said he wasn't as weak as he thought because he's reacting fast, then Colossus quit f*cking around and kayoed his @ss. Only a moron would argue that Hulk wasn't kayoed, even if it was for a 15 seconds or so, long enough for Colossus to walk up to there he tossed him, give a brief speech etc.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus said he wasn't as weak as he thought, then Colossus quit f*cking around and kayoed his @ss. Only a moron would argue that Hulk wasn't kayoed, even if it was for a 15 seconds or so, long enough for Colossus to walk up to there he tossed him, give a brief speech etc.

But he was weakened, had calmed down, and Colossus did get the jump on him. These are all clearly factors that played a part in that very brief victory. Colossus quit f*cking around? Lol, are you implying that he was holding back? Granted, he stopped trying to go toe to toe with the Hulk and used skill/surprise to his advantage, but it was made adamantly clear that Colossus was no match for Hulk physically. Hulk wasn't affected by Colossus' punches and layed him out with like two hits or something.

Only a moron? You're speaking out of ignorance if nothing else. Thor once layed out an opponent for a whole page, but according to the writer, he only stunned him. Not the only such situation I can recall regarding characters. The duration of time that passes in comics between panels, can be a weird thing.

If you think Hulk was knocked out for a few seconds, that's your prerogative, but someone else arguing that Hulk was only momentarily stunned/inconvenienced has just as much credibility. And for the record, you can stun someone for a lot more than a few seconds.

Here's the scene in question:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/ColossusVsHulk015.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/108823/2307489-colossus_2.jpg

Don't have the next scan but Hulk's completely unaffected in the next panel and IIRC mocks Colossus' efforts.

The entire sequence of events lasted like less than a minute (Since you enjoy quoting Colossus, I'd like to note that he came to the Hulk as fast as he could), Hulk being dazed or whatever is a very real possibility.

And here's round one:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73277/2116372-prv1986_pg8.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73277/2116369-colossusvshulk010.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73277/2116373-colossusvshulk011.jpg

The writers in the thanos thing gave groot a nice push. Nothing more. It certainly doesn't put groot above colossus. Colossus wins

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't have the next scan but Hulk's completely unaffected in the next panel and IIRC mocks Colossus' efforts.

http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/ankur29/?action=view&current=X-MenVsHulk018.jpg
credit to ankur

The best parts of that story were Wolverine's and Storm's troll faces when they were talking about the Hulk test for Colossus

Originally posted by DickBlazer
The writers in the thanos thing gave groot a nice push. Nothing more. It certainly doesn't put groot above colossus. Colossus wins

The Thanos Thing?

Originally posted by dmills
The Thanos Thing?

Avengers Assemble by Bendis.

And Thanos Imperative.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Avengers Assemble by Bendis. Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And Thanos Imperative.

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I was being facetious gentlemen lol

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/ankur29/?action=view&current=X-MenVsHulk018.jpg
credit to ankur

The best parts of that story were Wolverine's and Storm's troll faces when they were talking about the Hulk test for Colossus Yea...he looks unaffected alright.

BTW anybody have the full Groot fight?

Now, can anybody explain WHY?

Who the hell is Groot, to be able to do this to Thanos?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Groot.
He didn't just annoy Thanos, he was pummeling him very well.
I have no idea how or why, but he was.

Piotr is a ghurl.

u kiddin right?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Now, can anybody explain WHY?

Who the hell is Groot, to be able to do this to Thanos?

He is Groot.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He is Groot.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
u kiddin right? He's a tree monster.
Which part has you puzzled?

Bar the Thanos thing, what kind of feats does Groot have?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Bar the Thanos thing, what kind of feats does Groot have? Groot.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Bar the Thanos thing, what kind of feats does Groot have?

Originally posted by Badabing
Groot.

Exactly! THIS is what I'm SAYING.

His appearances show him having very mundane powers, (when you consider who he has been hanging around with).

He has extreme, um... well, you see, he has a lot of, ...yeah. Lot's of extreme "Tree Powers".

There is no reason for him to be able to fight somebody like Thanos.

Originally posted by Horrificus
There is no reason for him to be able to fight somebody like Thanos.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/6.21.10BrianMichaelBendisByLuigiNovi1.jpg/228px-6.21.10BrianMichaelBendisByLuigiNovi1.jpg
There's your reason right there.

Originally posted by zopzop
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There's your reason right there. He looks like he just finished announcing that he isn't wearing any underwear.

Groot fought the Phalanx in Annihilation Conquest and killed a lot of Phalanx robots, that's one thing I remember

And he fought a bunch of Magus lackeys. He might have jumped in against Magus too.

hulk throwing him gave him + 1,000,000 ATK

Originally posted by zopzop
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/6.21.10BrianMichaelBendisByLuigiNovi1.jpg/228px-6.21.10BrianMichaelBendisByLuigiNovi1.jpg
There's your reason right there.

TI wasn't written by Bendis.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
TI wasn't written by Bendis.
I know. That's why in TI, a WEAKENED Thanos, swatted Groot away. Thanos in Avengers Assembled should have snapped Groot like a twig but we all know what happens when Bendis starts "writing".

Originally posted by zopzop
I know. That's why in TI, a WEAKENED Thanos, swatted Groot away. Thanos in Avengers Assembled should have snapped Groot like a twig but we all know what happens when Bendis starts "writing".

Not before Groot got his licks in He eventually swatted him away in AA, too.

Anyway, I don't see Colossus doing to Thanos what Groot did.

Thanos would completely no sell Colossus.

^Idk about that but Thanos is well above either combatant

Originally posted by zopzop
I know. That's why in TI, a WEAKENED Thanos, swatted Groot away. Thanos in Avengers Assembled should have snapped Groot like a twig but we all know what happens when Bendis starts "writing". What happens is he mentions that Thanos might have done some damage to himself wielding the faux cube in the way he did.

In any event, Groot wins.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
^Idk about that but Thanos is well above either combatant

I'd be willing to bet money that there isn't a single writer at Marvel that would depict a Colossus punch even so much as turning Thanos' wrinkled chin.

Originally posted by dmills
Groot is about as strong as a moderately angry Savage Hulk. But Hulk would beat Groot into splinters if he got really pissed. In fact, that's just what he did to Groot when they fought back in the day. Though it should be noted the Groot of today is damn near a completely different character then the one Savage fought.


http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1383/hulkannual52.jpg You have the rest?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
You have the rest?

Yeah.

Originally posted by ODG
What happens is he mentions that Thanos might have done some damage to himself wielding the faux cube in the way he did.
AH! That would make more sense.


I don't disagree with this.

The scans have been posted of teenage Colossus kayoing Savage Hulk, I wanna see how Groot done did.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The scans have been posted of teenage Colossus kayoing Savage Hulk, I wanna see how Groot done did.

No.

Originally posted by dmills
No.

Originally posted by dmills
No. http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/hulk_hawkeye.gif

Well, I have a hard time believing Groot was able to one-shot Hulk.

you do realize it's a cropped image out of an entire comic, right?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you do realize it's a cropped image out of an entire comic, right? Never saw the book so I don't know.

We're not gonna tell. We've all pm'd one another not to tell Juggernaut74 what really happened.

Seriously, it'll take years for him to find out, it's such a big secret.

Hawkeye and Hulk gif cracked me up. Stolen.

Groot pummels Colossus.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Never saw the book so I don't know. I think it was only released in Irkutsk.

Groot reminds me of Timmy.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I think it was only released in Irkutsk.

I bet he's pouring through every file sharing site on the nets to find that issue. But WE ALL know that he'll never find it. Ever.

Originally posted by dmills
I bet he's pouring through every file sharing site on the nets to find that issue. But WE ALL know that he'll never find it. Ever.

It wasn't even the real groot.Originally posted by dmills
I bet he's pouring through every file sharing site on the nets to find that issue. But WE ALL know that he'll never find it. Ever.
Yeah, it took me 3 seconds to find the comic.
mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
It wasn't even the real groot.
Yeah, it took me 3 seconds to find the comic.
mmm

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Originally posted by dmills
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^^^ Don't tell Juggernaut74 what happened.

Originally posted by dmills
^^^ Don't tell Juggernaut74 what happened.
Deal.

Originally posted by dmills
I bet he's pouring through every file sharing site on the nets to find that issue. But WE ALL know that he'll never find it. Ever. I just scoured the web and found nothing. I'm starting to wonder if you made it up.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I just scoured the web and found nothing. I'm starting to wonder if you made it up.

Damn it! Yeah you got me. I shopped it...

dmills is actually John Romita Jr, and he called his buddies up to create something just for you, juggy wuggy.

LOL

Originally posted by carver9
Recently, groot had a decent showing against Savage Hulk. He should be able to take Colossus after a long fight. You just stated he got owned by Savage Hulk?

It wasn't recent neither was it real groot if I'm guessing right what fight carver is mentioning.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
You just stated he got owned by Savage Hulk?

With carver, decent showing means you get owned.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


Here's the scene in question:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/ColossusVsHulk015.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/108823/2307489-colossus_2.jpg

Never noticed until now but did you purposely leave out the scan showing the knockout blow?

lots of focus put on that avengers assembled fight with thanos. odd considering we don't even know to what extent he was f'd up by having the fake cube expelled from him..... seems like a nice piece of "that might explain things" to me. anyway, from what i've seen, this would be a pretty good fight. groot should be able to take down 'regular' colossus (obviously the current version slaughters him though....) but i wouldn't say a clean sweep would happen for either.

Colossus is no longer Juggernaut.

There does seem to be some anomaly with his powers though, or will be once he shows up again.

anomaly =/= power-up

What happened exactly?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Colossus is no longer Juggernaut.

huh? when did THAT happen?? musta just been in the last month or 2.... i'm GLAD he's not juggs anymore. i thought it was a HORRIBLE idea from the get-go.

Originally posted by leonidas
huh? when did THAT happen?? musta just been in the last month or 2.... i'm GLAD he's not juggs anymore. i thought it was a HORRIBLE idea from the get-go.

Yeah, about 2 months ago in Uncanny. Magik severed Demon-Colossusnaut's connection with Cyttorak with a single sword swipe

True, it was horrible.

edit: correction, 3 months ago

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
anomaly =/= power-up

What happened exactly?

In All New X-Men, every Phoenix Host and even those close to them(Like Magneto) have been having power fluxes and even some upgrades.

Magik can summon portions of Limbo and Limbo energies to Earth now.

Cyclop's energy blasts are powerful beyond his control for the moment.

Colossus' eyes are glowing for some reason.

Emma lost her powers altogether.

And Magneto's powers have been on/off for a bit.

They haven't fully explained what happened, but basically the Phoenix energies altered them and their powers and they're still figuring out why and how.

And since it's not explained what all new or power changes they've got, I'm not sure on this fight.

Thanks. I got tired of Bendis, that's why I'm trying to stay away from this title for now.

Originally posted by KingD19
Emma lost her powers altogether.

And Magneto's powers have been on/off for a bit.

So it's not necessarily an upgrade I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, about 2 months ago in Uncanny. Magik severed Demon-Colossusnaut's connection with Cyttorak with a single sword swipe

True, it was horrible.

edit: correction, 3 months ago

damn, i just finished reading the consequences series and he was fine! that IS f'in lame though. he and magik visited cyttorak to try and see if he would remove the curse and they both had the pf. he STILL said no. then, without pf, on earth, she just.....severs his tie? that is ridiculous. why the hell didn't she just do that to him before? dumb. guess she could have taken marko out at any point as well then? hrm. that's....terrible if it were just that easy.

Yeah. While there are signs it could be an upgrade. In the case of Magik's insane power amp, and Cyclop's beams getting stronger.

It could be a detriment too since Magneto had his powers at full strength in one panel, then lost them for most of the comic after, then had them seemingly back to normal next issue. And Emma seemed to lose her tp as well as not even bothering to try turning to Diamond.

And that's why I'm holding off my judgement for the time being.

Originally posted by leonidas
damn, i just finished reading the consequences series and he was fine! that IS f'in lame though. he and magik visited cyttorak to try and see if he would remove the curse and they both had the pf. he STILL said no. then, without pf, on earth, she just.....severs his tie? that is ridiculous. why the hell didn't she just do that to him before? dumb. guess she could have taken marko out at any point as well then? hrm. that's....terrible if it were just that easy.

Cyttorak didn't release him from his bonds because Colossus caused so much destruction that he took a liking to him, as that's basically all he wants in an avatar. And in his own realm, he's even more powerful than 2/5 of the Phoenix Force.

As for why she didn't do it before, she wanted Colossus to experience what it was like to fall so far into evil and savagery because of your powers, like her with her Limbo powers. So she could prove to him that he couldn't treat her like she was his perfect little sister anymore, because she wasn't. She's a manipulative ***** and not far from plain evil.

And I doubt she could have severed Cain's link. He's been the Juggernaut for so long, even Cytorrak can't completely take the power from him.

aww, ok, that makes sense. i'd forgotten about that bit where she was trying to teach him a lesson.

still, MIGHT end up being cool if cyttorak were to try and somehow get revenge on magik. be cool to see him invade limbo or something. wonder who he'll choose next?

Well Cain has his powers back now, but the only book he appeared in just got a total reboot, so I'm not sure what's going on.

Wasn't it Cyttorak from alternate reality that restored his powers?

Yes. That realities Juggernaut was dead, so when Cain stuck his hand in there, Cyttorak sensed the familiarity and bestowed him the powers. Which would probably explain the new look.

Honestly they just f*cked up bad on that issue, and now they can't even fix it.

Eh... The Carnage symbiote Cassidy's wearing is also from alt reality. Think anyone gives a crap at this point? Just pretend things went back to normal, I know Marvel will.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
You just stated he got owned by Savage Hulk?

He did and he also had a decent showing against Savage. I think they fought twice.

Originally posted by SamZED
Eh... The Carnage symbiote Cassidy's wearing is also from alt reality. Think anyone gives a crap at this point? Just pretend things went back to normal, I know Marvel will.

That's because no one cares about symbiotes... they stopped being cool 20 years ago.

Sad truth http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon4.gif

"i am Groot" the phrase probably haunts Thanos's dreams.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That's because no one cares about symbiotes... they stopped being cool 20 years ago.

Sad truth http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon4.gif Symbiotes used to be cool? Thought its just me... That said, Juggernaut stopped being cool around the time the second "Juggernaut b!tch" video came out so its the same.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5586/1150106-grt6.jpg

vs.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2922/107142-43978-colossus.jpg Is this some sort of sick joke? Groot wins, first time, every time. sneer


Groot

Originally posted by carver9
He did and he also had a decent showing against Savage. I think they fought twice. I don't think so. There is no scans.

Originally posted by SamZED
Symbiotes used to be cool? Thought its just me... That said, Juggernaut stopped being cool around the time the second "Juggernaut b!tch" video came out so its the same.

I had a link saved for you. An avid Spider-Man fan posts a dozen or so examples why Venom sucks, browsing through his whole history. He's a terribly inconsistent character even for Marvel standards.

You want me to look for it? Or will you kneel before Lord Wolverine and admit he's Parker's superior in every way?