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I've always been curious about this. I wonder who is your guys' top 20 strongets comic characters pound for pound based on strength classifcation and feats alone. I do not know weights of characters off the top of my head so I figured this would be a good one.

Superman Prime and WBH are probably the strongest as they have the greatest strength feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman Prime and WBH are probably the strongest as they have the greatest strength feats.

This.

Superman, Hulk, Thor, Captain Marvel, Prime etc etc etc.

Hulk, in most incarnations.

Popeye too.


Namor possibly, after all he must be packing something ungodly for Sue and Emma to be swayed.

Herald or Below

He-man
Hulk
Grundy
Doomsday
Black Adam
Eradicator
Superman
Bizarro
Captain Marvel
Gladiator
Cyborg Superman
Beta Ray Bill
Thor
Mongol
Orion
Martian Manhunter
Blue Marvel
Wonder Woman
Sentry
Morg

Dc preflashpoint
Inmho in order

Top 20?

AND pound-for-pound? Meaning of 2 people of nearly the exact same strength level the smaller person wins?

Hmm.


1. Alan Moore's "Silver Age" Suprema (from Supreme #52A, Volume 1)

2. Golden Age Wonder Woman/ Silver Age Wonder Woman

3. Anyone from Giantia in a yellow sun system

4. Pre-Crisis Bizarrogirl/ pre-Crisis Kara Zor-el (Earth-1 Supergirl)/ pre-Crisis Mary Marvel


5-20 I might get to later.

Most uberbeings from comic yesteryears beat today's though.
They generally operated on a different set of physics than the ones writers follow in our more pseudo-"modern" era.


Below the 1st 3 choices above, however, I MIGHT have the following somewhere, in about this order. Just undecided how Bronze Age levels compare to Silver Age ones, really ...


a. "Wishing Well" Red She-Hulk
(Betty Banner as she appeared in Umar's Dark Dimension, Incredible Hulk #607 or thereabouts...)

b. WorldBreaker Hulk

c. Superboy Prime

Beyonder when she shrunk into the microverse

Oh, yeah ...


The "Silver Age" Suprema attachment needs a little bit of explanation.
It's actually a "Thor in the Land of the Giants" riff that Alan Moore came up with...

(URL version)


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14088197



http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903225

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903237

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903238

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903251

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903256


Source: Supreme #52A, Volume 1

"Silver Age" Suprema. League of Infinity Induction.
Click-able link version.



http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14088197



http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903225

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903237

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903238

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903251

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13903256


Source: Supreme #52A, Volume 1

Atom Ant....though i doubt he has a comic.

Originally posted by Mr Marvel
Atom Ant....though i doubt he has a comic.

He does, Linkara reviewed one

Superman.

Silver age superman.

HOTM Hulk,Superman Prime,Thor,Hercules,Captain Marvel

Anyone around this monsters is just fine

Iron Fist

Hulk

Krypto.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Silver age superman.

Originally posted by Mindset
Krypto.

He-Man, Popeye, Mighty Mouse, Superboy Prime, PC Superman, WBH or strongest Hulk incarnation.

Popeye and Mighty Mouse might push into abstract territory, so they may be invalidated.

Originally posted by Digi
He-Man, Popeye, Mighty Mouse, Superboy Prime, PC Superman, WBH or strongest Hulk incarnation.

Popeye and Mighty Mouse might push into abstract territory, so they may be invalidated.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs13/i/2007/103/d/b/Mighty_mouse_VS__Atom_Ant_by_pinkblot6.jpg

That's not legit, is it? Hilarious either way.

It's fanart

http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/fire_life/articles/2011/07/fitness-and-the-female.html

Oh, wait.

Erica Blockman is not a comic book character, but a firefighter.



Never mind ...

Originally posted by Digi
He-Man, Popeye, Mighty Mouse, Superboy Prime, PC Superman, WBH or strongest Hulk incarnation.

Popeye and Mighty Mouse might push into abstract territory, so they may be invalidated.


PC Bizarro Supergirl was stronger pound for pound than PC Superman.
Same strength but less poundage and all that.

We might have to give nod to the smallest character in a class when strength levels are equal if we're following the guidelines, Digi.
I was only considering "human" males and females.
I wasn't taking animals, anthromorphic beings, etcetera into consideration.
By that reckoning, unlikely though it seems, the people who are posting Mighty Mouse and Atom Ant may indeed be the winners of this thread.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
PC Bizarro Supergirl was stronger pound for pound than PC Superman.
Same strength but less poundage and all that.

We might have to give nod to the smallest character in a class when strength levels are equal if we're following the guidelines, Digi.
I was only considering "human" males and females.
I wasn't taking animals, anthromorphic beings, etcetera into consideration.
By that reckoning, unlikely though it seems, the people who are posting Mighty Mouse and Atom Ant may indeed be the winners of this thread.

Indeed. Although, I'll point out that PC Supes was all over the map. He had some comically low showings, then things like the galaxy sneeze. I think we'd have to give him the nod based on overall feats, compared to someone like PC Bizzaro Supergirl.

I think Mighty Mouse has literally moved the universe with his strength. In terms of quantifiable feats, it's almost impossible to top that. We can talk about the potential of He-Man or Hulk all we want, but that takes the cake, and easily.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
pound-for-pound? Meaning of 2 people of nearly the exact same strength level the smaller person wins?

Hmm.


1. Alan Moore's "Silver Age" Suprema (from Supreme #52A, Volume 1)

2. Golden Age Wonder Woman/ Silver Age Wonder Woman

3. Anyone from Giantia in a yellow sun system

4. Pre-Crisis Bizarrogirl/ pre-Crisis Kara Zor-el (Earth-1 Supergirl)/ pre-Crisis Mary Marvel







4. Pre-Crisis Bizarrogirl
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http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14090082

Source: Superman #140, Volume 1
Writer: Otto Binder
Penciller: Wayne Boring
Date: October 1960
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http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/The_Son_of_Bizarro!




4. Pre-Crisis Kara Zor-el (Earth-1 Supergirl)

^That is just lolworthy. But its bluewaterrider. Wonder woman hurt her hands punching mongul.

Anybody remember this?
http://littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/fnf/ckd/ckd009.jpg

According to bluewaterrider this means Wonder Woman>Superman in strength.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
pound-for-pound? Meaning of 2 people of nearly the exact same strength level the smaller person wins?

Hmm.


1. Alan Moore's "Silver Age" Suprema (from Supreme #52A, Volume 1)

2. Golden Age Wonder Woman/ Silver Age Wonder Woman

3. Anyone from Giantia in a yellow sun system

4. Pre-Crisis Bizarrogirl/ pre-Crisis Kara Zor-el (Earth-1 Supergirl)/ pre-Crisis Mary Marvel






3. Anyone from Giantia in a yellow sun system

abhi's still on his period i see

Also lulz at supergirl being higher than superman.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/bmovie_buff/Folder%202/DC_Comics_Presents43-11.jpg

Notice how she beats mongul, right? Superman koed mongul in that same comic and fell unconscious after that.

As for wonder woman, another lulz
Originally posted by Bransolute
On that note...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-19.jpg

And then Superman comes in and goes for Mongul.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-26.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-27.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-28.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-29.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-31.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-32.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-33.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-34.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupermanAnnual11-35.jpg

Originally posted by psycho gundam
abhi's still on his period i see
Originally posted by psycho gundam
still salty?

"supermanstuation"

Originally posted by psycho gundam
"supermanstuation"
Go troll somebody else.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
pound-for-pound? Meaning of 2 people of nearly the exact same strength level the smaller person wins?

Hmm.


1. Alan Moore's "Silver Age" Suprema (from Supreme #52A, Volume 1)

2. Golden Age Wonder Woman/ Silver Age Wonder Woman

3. Anyone from Giantia in a yellow sun system






http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14043693

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14043688


2. Golden Age Wonder Woman/ Silver Age Wonder Woman

Originally posted by psycho gundam
"supermanstuation"

PC Superman is stronger than that version of Wonder Woman or Supergirl.

It's one of the things that has remained constant even post crisis and post reboot too.

Originally posted by -Pr-


PC Superman is stronger than that version of Wonder Woman or Supergirl.





Throughout much, if not most, of the Silver Age (i.e. the 1960s) Kryptonians were accorded the same strength levels one to another.
You'll find an exception or two, but they generally did NOT take into account gender or even size differences.

It would have made perfect sense to a reader of that day, knowing the above, that Superman was unable to wrest Baby Buster from Bizarro Supergirl. She was every bit as strong as he was.
The simple fact is, though, in addition to being as strong as Superman, Bizarrogirl weighed less. So she was, by definition, stronger pound-for-pound.


Silver Age Superman was also reckoned to be as strong as mythical Hercules. In fact, there were at least 1 or 2 instances where he competed AGAINST the mythical Hercules.
He won against Hercules only because he had EXTRA abilities, like flight, speed, and invulnerability, and said so himself, but their strength was equal.
Wonder Woman, however, was stronger than Hercules. That's part of her strength classification, which the original poster asked us to base our decisions on.

Here we go again.

Originally posted by Digi
Indeed. Although, I'll point out that PC Supes was all over the map. He had some comically low showings, then things like the galaxy sneeze. I think we'd have to give him the nod based on overall feats, compared to someone like PC Bizzaro Supergirl.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Throughout much, if not most, of the Silver Age (i.e. the 1960s) Kryptonians were accorded the same strength levels one to another.
You'll find an exception or two, but they generally did NOT take into account gender or even size differences.

It would have made perfect sense to a reader of that day, knowing the above, that Superman was unable to wrest Baby Buster from Bizarro Supergirl. She was every bit as strong as he was.
The simple fact is, though, in addition to being as strong as Superman, Bizarrogirl weighed less. So she was, by definition, stronger pound-for-pound.


Silver Age Superman was also reckoned to be as strong as mythical Hercules. In fact, there were at least 1 or 2 instances where he competed AGAINST the mythical Hercules.
He won against Hercules only because he had EXTRA abilities, like flight, speed, and invulnerability, and said so himself, but their strength was equal.
Wonder Woman, however, was stronger than Hercules. That's part of her strength classification, which the original poster asked us to base our decisions on.

No.

Doesn't hold, DS.

PC Superman had more feats than those creatures from Giantia, too.

Does the fact that PC (Silver Age*) Superman has more strength feats prove he was stronger than they were?

Or do we in fact go by the ONE appearance of those things in comicdom and conclude, rightly, that THEY were, in fact, the stronger creatures, pound for pound or otherwise?











*(We should, at some point, make a distinction between Golden Age Superman, Silver Age Superman, and Bronze Age Superman, who are all lumped under the generic label "PC (preCrisisOnInfiniteEarths) Superman" without qualifiers. There were differences among these 3. We've not highlighted that fact to any significant degree in this thread.)

Super Goof of course

http://www.xyanweb.com/surprises/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/wpid-425supergoofcm61211.jpg

Mmm, comparing apples and oranges, however. The inhabitants of Gigantia at least had SOME reason for being stronger. BizarroGirl and Supergirl, not so much.

As characters are used more frequently, whether its by overuse or a writer trying to make them more interesting, you will get some lower showings. A good case in point is Rulk. When he first appeared, he was smacking people all around. Hulk,Thor, the Watcher, Grandmaster etc etc. Then afterwards, in the second showings, he didn't have as easy a time. And yes, the reason is because he lost a vital component of his powers, but that was done to make him a bit more interesting.

Superboy Prime is another. When he first appeared, he waded through everyone. Then in subsequent showings, the Titans beat him.

Oh, and as for this thread, I nominate Mxy.

Beyonder has good strength feats, bro.

Iron Fist
Dr. Doom
Luke Cage
Jeremy Renner

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Iron Fist
Dr. Doom
Luke Cage
Jeremy Renner

Someone mod this man.

Originally posted by Digi
I think Mighty Mouse has literally moved the universe with his strength. In terms of quantifiable feats, it's almost impossible to top that. We can talk about the potential of He-Man or Hulk all we want, but that takes the cake, and easily.

I agree, that's hard to top.

Best I can do is match that, and, if what you're speaking is true, would have to give it to Mighty Mouse on the size breakdown, 'cause he's the lightest of the two heroes I then know of performing that feat on page.

"Silver Age" Suprema takes this contest if he hasn't done that, though...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Iron with no Fist
Dr. Doom
Luke Cage
Jeremy Renner
Kyle with no ring

You'll never be with the cool kids, carver.

So...beautiful.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52nydi3aO1rwcc6bo1_500.gif

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You'll never be with the cool kids, carver.

I wanna join the gang.

Might be interesting to have a thread like this divided into tiers.

A lot of people are very strong for their class and division, even people you wouldn't expect ...

http://i.qkme.me/3rb0qd.jpg

I'm not sure where it's from, but I like that Gorilla "gif" a lot.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I'm not sure where it's from, but I like that Gorilla "gif" a lot.

Reported for going off topic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reported for going off topic.

Be sure to give me a good mod recommendation while you're at it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Anybody remember this?
http://littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/fnf/ckd/ckd009.jpg

According to bluewaterrider this means Wonder Woman>Superman in strength.

Does he know Supermans not only punched Mongul without hurting his hands, but managed to keep hitting him?

I can't imagine what sort of logic he's using..

Originally posted by cdtm
Does he know Supermans not only punched Mongul without hurting his hands, but managed to keep hitting him?

Because I can't imagine what sort of logic he's using otherwise..


Definitely not the pseudo brand of logic that conflates INVULNERABILITY with strength.

Generally, though, durability is tied with strength. With the exception of a few (like Brit), if you're strong, you are durable enough to not hurt yourself when you exert your strength.....

But even if they are not tied together, its usually the other way around - you're durable without being superstrong. I don't really know of anyone who's super strong but hurts themselves when they try to apply their strength.

Originally posted by cdtm
Does he know Supermans not only punched Mongul without hurting his hands, but managed to keep hitting him?

I can't imagine what sort of logic he's using..
You don't remember mongul laughing off punches from superman and wonder woman nearly killing him with her punches in that story? Blue lives in bizarro world where wonder woman is stronger than superman.

Superman
He-Man
superman clones








WBH

hmm, Hulk in Banner form is occasionally just as strong, so ...
Banner (with Hulk's strength) would be the strongest character, pound for pound.

Popeye should be top, if spinach amping is allowed (might be considered outside help/prep).

Popeye
Hulk
...
Superman
..
Rulk (weaker than Hulk, but heavier than Superman)
.
Hercules/Thor

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Definitely not the pseudo brand of logic that conflates INVULNERABILITY with strength.

That still doesn't explain how you could determine WW as stronger, when comparing examples like this:

http://littlestuffedbull.com/images/comics/fnf/ckd/ckd009.jpg

With this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/DCComicsPresents036-17.jpg

Originally posted by cdtm
That still doesn't explain how you could determine WW as stronger, when comparing examples like this:


For starters, you're accepting a LIE told about what I've said as something I actually said.

I can see in what you quoted from Abhilegend, who I've had on KMC's "Ignore" setting for several months precisely because of continual behavior of this sort, a scan of Wonder Woman hurting her hand on Mongul's jaw and the statement:

"According to bluewaterrider this means Wonder Woman>Superman in strength."


That's a lie on his part. I never presented that particular scene as proof of Diana having superior strength. I wonder now how many similar misrepresentations he's made of me. They are apparently numerous enough now that other posters have begun to catch on and are beginning to call him on it, as psychogundam's comment on the previous page suggests.

He was joking.

Originally posted by -Pr-
He was joking.

Ah. No smiley, so thought he was serious. Sarcasm doesn't translate too well over the internet. ^_^;

Now you've made bluewater mad for no reason.

Pound for Pound? Squirrel girl. Karate Kid. Batman. Imagine them with the strength/speed/durability of superman.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
They are apparently numerous enough now that other posters have begun to catch on and are beginning to call him on it, as psychogundam's comment on the previous page suggests. supermanstruation

he's single-handedly taxing india's fresh blood market from all the transfusions to replenish his blood supply

Originally posted by Uriel005
Pound for Pound? Squirrel girl. Karate Kid. Batman. Imagine them with the strength/speed/durability of superman. Batman's physical size is close to Superman's.

You're not thinking of pound for pound right.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
supermanstruation

he's single-handedly taxing india's fresh blood market from all the transfusions to replenish his blood supply

lol

Originally posted by psycho gundam
supermanstruation

he's single-handedly taxing india's fresh blood market from all the transfusions to replenish his blood supply
Still butthurt from superman/SS thread?

what thread? lol?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what thread? lol?
So you're doing "gaiz, I'm liek so funny and coolz, I can randomly attack abhi and troll him" for no reason? Go troll some thor fans.

Your jimmies seem a little rustled.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you're doing "gaiz, I'm liek so funny and coolz, I can randomly attack abhi and troll him" for no reason? Go troll some thor fans. wait, you troll and get made fun of for it and you're mad? the thread was derailed to make wonder woman look weak cause of what now? some other stuff from some other thread

aww

No one trolls me

Originally posted by psycho gundam
wait, you troll and get made fun of for it and you're mad? the thread was derailed to make wonder woman look weak cause of what now? some other stuff from some other thread

aww
Posting scans relevant to the discussion and a sarcastic line towards a poster who is blatantly trolling means I'm trolling? You should try a lotion for that butthurt.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No one trolls me

You don't want to get in the middle of all that sexual tension. Trust me.

So we all agree Mr Mxyptlk is the strongest character pound for pound?

Abhi and psycho gundam is like an episode of DBZ. They keep powering up and transforming, but we've yet to reach the climax of their battle.

They'll probably climax on each other.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So we all agree Mr Mxyptlk is the strongest character pound for pound? No.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Abhi and psycho gundam is like an episode of DBZ. They keep powering up and transforming, but we've yet to reach the climax of their battle.
Psycho is carver+ in backing out from a thread.

Originally posted by Mindset
They'll probably climax on each other.

Originally posted by Mindset
No.

You matter not.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You matter not. Silence, imbecile.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No one trolls me Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You'll never be with the cool kids irony cause you just got trolled...... by yourself

thanks to all for postingf half-way serious answers. Pound for pound is based on body weight. therefore theoretically peter parker who is what 140lbs can lift what 15 tons right and ben grimm is 900 lbs and can lift90 tons? so therfore thing can lift 100 times his own bodyweight where pete can mlift over 100 so therefore he is stronger. that is the breakdown. So hulk who is 1200lbs or more is weaker than superman (250lbs) and thor(550lbs) based on times they can lift more than their weight.

And that's why Krypto is the strongest.

Originally posted by MightySAXON
So hulk who is 1200lbs or more is weaker than superman (250lbs) and thor(550lbs) based on times they can lift more than their weight. you clearly asked a half-serious question. they lifted whatever weight is placed before them

Originally posted by psycho gundam
irony cause you just got trolled...... by yourself

I have already placed myself on ignore.

Originally posted by MightySAXON
thanks to all for postingf half-way serious answers. Pound for pound is based on body weight. therefore theoretically peter parker who is what 140lbs can lift what 15 tons right and ben grimm is 900 lbs and can lift90 tons? so therfore thing can lift 100 times his own bodyweight where pete can mlift over 100 so therefore he is stronger. that is the breakdown. So hulk who is 1200lbs or more is weaker than superman (250lbs) and thor(550lbs) based on times they can lift more than their weight.

Superman (250lbs) has lifted infinity.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I have already placed myself on ignore. We should all follow suit.

Originally posted by Mindset
We should all follow suit.

If I posted like you I would have put myself on ignore a long time ago.

This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click

Hmmm, looks like I don't know how to take people off ignore.

Wonder Woman is a defensible choice. She's half the weight of Superman. Who, in turn, is like 1/4th the weight of Hulk. Meaning, p4p, Superman would have to be more than twice as strong as Wonder Woman and Hulk would have to be more than eight times as strong as her.

I'm not so sure a Wonder Woman amped with twice her strength would be weaker than Superman, much less 4x weaker than Hulk.

Originally posted by MightySAXON
thanks to all for postingf half-way serious answers. Pound for pound is based on body weight. therefore theoretically peter parker who is what 140lbs can lift what 15 tons right and ben grimm is 900 lbs and can lift90 tons? so therfore thing can lift 100 times his own bodyweight where pete can mlift over 100 so therefore he is stronger. that is the breakdown. So hulk who is 1200lbs or more is weaker than superman (250lbs) and thor(550lbs) based on times they can lift more than their weight.

Peter Parker(aka Spiderman)-Height:5 Ft 10 Inches
Weight:165 Pounds
Strength Lvl:10 Tons

Ben Grimm(aka Thing)-Height:6 Ft
Weight:500 Pounds
Strength Lvl:85 Tons(outdated)

How about Bzzt?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4udps421T1r3cwzho1_500.jpg

There's a GL who's a bacterium, I believe.

Originally posted by Mindset
Batman's physical size is close to Superman's.

You're not thinking of pound for pound right. In boxing terms you are correct. I thought op was posting relative strength class to feats

I thought he was asking who had the best strength feats relative to their weight. And though it burns my fingers to type this, Rapeset is right.

Originally posted by Uriel005
In boxing terms you are correct. I thought op was posting relative strength class to feats Why do you think he mentioned weight?

Originally posted by Igniz
Peter Parker(aka Spiderman)-Height:5 Ft 10 Inches
Weight:165 Pounds
Strength Lvl:10 Tons

Ben Grimm(aka Thing)-Height:6 Ft
Weight:500 Pounds
Strength Lvl:85 Tons(outdated)

sorry for the misinformation, I was just trying to make a point. I though ben was heavier for somereason and spiderman was stronger. My apologies.

And yes this can be based on strength feats people, but it is due to weight of the character.

Originally posted by MightySAXON

Pound for pound is based on body weight.

can lift 100 times his or her own bodyweight ...
can lift OVER 100 ...
Therefore is stronger.

That is the breakdown.



Thanks for clarifying that. Then my list was fairly accurate, save that non-humanoid beings were not included. ARE you including them?
Would someone like a Mighty Mouse or Atom Ant be in the running?

If so, assuming Digi's suggestion that Mighty Mouse moved the whole universe is accurate, Mighty Mouse would indeed win the crown, else his lightest counterpart, a similarly strong but smaller character named Mighty Mousette (not making this up) would take it.
(Unless, of course, Atom Ant has similar credentials. I don't know of any intrinsically strong supercharacter smaller than him.)

If not, if we're only considering the most strongly humanoid characters, I stand more or less by my original entries. Note that there may be a difference in order of magnitude from one number to another.
The strongest pound for pound "champion" I personally know of represents their "tier", I suppose you could say:

1. Alan Moore's "Silver Age" Suprema (from Supreme #52A, Volume 1)
She lifted the weight of the entire Universe disguised as a snow globe.
Never seen anything remotely quantifiable on a comic book page to top that.

2. Golden Age Wonder Woman/ Silver Age Wonder Woman
Don't think I've ever found an upper limit to what Golden Wonder could lift or move. Specifically designed by her creator to have all the physical strength accorded to what's-his-name on the overall scale, and was smaller and lighter than him, so gets the nod in any pound-for-pound comparison.
Unbelievably, most renditions seem to have Golden Wonder largely separate from the Greek Pantheon as her source of power, dependent rather on her building, then maintaining or increasing her physical strength through ever more challenging and regular exercise, strength of will, and belief in herself.
(The message of many of her earlier comics was more empowering in that sense ...) Quite possible to make the case for Golden Age Hippolyta being stronger than her daughter, though. Hippy physically bested Diana in Sensation Comics #26 in a wrestling match to save her daughter's life.

3. Anyone from Giantia in a yellow sun system
(see previous panel-given explanation of Superman himself earlier in this thread). Only question is whether or not Giantia ever actually had any people come from it in the DCU.


4. Pre-Crisis Bizarrogirl/ pre-Crisis Kara Zor-el (Earth-1 Supergirl)/ pre-Crisis Mary Marvel

It would probably be most accurate to write "1960s Bizarrogirl" and "1960s Kara Zor-el" and "1960s Mary Marvel". This is the era most people accord the greatest strength feats of Kryptonians. This is also the era, however, where super-characters of the same background were accorded roughly EQUAL levels of strength and superpower, regardless of size. Bizarrogirl was smaller than 1960s Superman, but, as shown previously in this thread, was so equal in strength that he could not break her grip. On the pound-for-pound basis you outlined, she'd win any strength comparison.

the Mkrann Crystal guardians. Jahf, tough lil midget class 100 dude. Think he was slapping around colossus like a $2 whore.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
comparing apples and oranges... The inhabitants of Gigantia at least had SOME reason for being stronger. BizarroGirl and Supergirl, not so much.



It is actually you who are guilty of comparing apples to oranges, D.S.

You are trying to apply your own modern reasoning to comics that were written in an era where writers did not, for the most part, concern themselves with such things.

As it is, I largely agree that Supergirl, pre-1985, did not have incredibly solid reasons for her being stronger than her cousin, or even as strong as. That still doesn't change the fact that in many, if not most, of actual pre-Crisis comics, Supergirl was accorded strength equal to her cousin. That was true of Silver Age Supergirl in the 50s and 60s; it was often true of her even in the late 1970s, the so-called Bronze Era.

Note the following. Same task. Struggling to widen a dimensional portal. Superman strains to his utmost to perform the manuever.
He even TELLS us so. It takes everything he has.

Were Superman actually stronger than his young female cousin, she should not be able to perform the manuever.
She is smaller and lighter than he is.

Same task. Same effort. Supergirl would have to be stronger than Superman, pound-for-pound, to succeed at this.

Otherwise, she should fail.

DOES she fail...?

Source: Superman Family #190

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14095665

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Might be interesting to have a thread like this divided into tiers.

A lot of people are very strong for their class and division, even people you wouldn't expect ...



It occurred to me that I essentially created the street tier pound-for-pound strongest list by making this gauntlet for Slade.

See what you guys think of the rankings and feats here:







Slade Gauntlet.
Grip Strength Challenge.

No strikes or tripping allowed.
Contestants must maintain handholds on each other at all times.
Ring is 10 feet in diameter.

Win is accrued by any proof of pure physical strength superiority,
i.e. forcing a ring out, forcing opponents hands behind their back despite their active resistance, breaking the bones of the opponents hand, submission, etcetera.


Contest inspired by the following:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105504
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105497
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105483

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105236
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14107037





How far can Slade progress against the following line-up?
Can he clear?


01. Grifter

02. Nightwing (Richard Grayson)

03. Superboy Prime (depowered; under full red sunlight)

04. Deadpool

05. Batman (Bruce Wayne)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105053

06. Bane (non-juiced)

07. Wally West (no speed allowed, just West's natural strength)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14105059

08. Harley Quinn
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14090226
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106977
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106989

09. Captain America
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106941
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14107026


10. Kingpin (Wilson Fisk)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106318
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106786
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106788
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106794

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106816
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106821
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=13948936


Bonus Round:

Slade gets to use a set of power gloves to TRIPLE his strength to tackle the following people.

Can he clear these 5 opponents?


11. Bane (fully juiced)

12. Killer Croc

13. Cable

14. Norman Osborn (Green Goblin)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14073549

15. Kingpin (enraged)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106391
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106393
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14106398

Originally posted by Uriel005
Pound for Pound? Squirrel girl. Karate Kid. Batman. Imagine them with the strength/speed/durability of superman.

Why would you want to weaken Squirrel Girl so much?

The kind young fairy-lady named Glitter from Kidd Video should make this list, assuming she hasn't been included in here already. At least once she's sneezed ...

6:32 -- 8:00 minute mark of the following clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=***3smmlyW8

???


Have YouTube clips recently been banned from KMC?

I didn't even ...


No ...

Wait a minute.

I don't believe this.

Guys, you'll think I'm joking, but the asterisked out letters of the Kidd Video link mentioned in the post before this one, the one about Glitter, are, in this order, capital "F", lowercase "a", and uppercase "G".

Not joking. Not slamming. Put those letters in place of the *** in the URL of that YouTube link and it should work for you.

Kindly add Hyperion whatever lists you compile.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
???


Have YouTube clips recently been banned from KMC?

I didn't even ...


No ...

Wait a minute.

I don't believe this.

Guys, you'll think I'm joking, but the asterisked out letters of the Kidd Video link mentioned in the post before this one, the one about Glitter, are, in this order, capital "F", lowercase "a", and uppercase "G".

Not joking. Not slamming. Put those letters in place of the *** in the URL of that YouTube link and it should work for you.

Yeah, the censor seems to be interfering with it.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Herald or Below

He-man
Hulk
Grundy
Doomsdayi
Black Adam
Eradicator
Superman
Bizarro
Captain Marvel
Gladiator
Cyborg Superman
Beta Ray Bill
Thor
Mongol
Orion
Martian Manhunter
Blue Marvel
Wonder Woman
Sentry
Morg

Dc preflashpoint
Inmho in order I like list. Add guys like Wonder Man, Hercules, Nova Prime,

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman Prime and WBH are probably the strongest as they have the greatest strength feats.

sounds bout right.