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Silver Surfer
Thor
Gladiator
Sentry (WWH)
Hercules (Classic)

vs

Current Hulk
Current Red Hulk
Skaar
Red She Hulk
Abomination

Battle is head to head only. Characters will not use energy projection, shielding, flight, etc.

The only power besides strength, speed and durability they will use is amping their strength and durability, if they have this ability. Thor will use his hammer to hit opponents, but won't use any of it's exotic powers. The SS can use his board to hit people with.

Characters can use whatever combat speed they have in the fight.

WTF is Surfer doing here, let alone leading a team?

Well SS's speed will be a factor based on the OP stips. Although I agree, he shouldn't be leading the team. I think SS is more than a match for, say, the Abomination, in this scenario. I'd give an edge to team 1, although I don't know much about red she hulk, and I've heard she's a beast.

His primary speed is linked to his flight, which is barred. So unless Surfer can fly or at least hover on his board, he's not going to be doing much unless he's physically going to use his shield like a melee weapon. Which would be both hilarious and ridiculous.

Surfer can amp his strength to infinite.

Is it Rick or Blonsky Abomination? Scaar isn't in their league strength wise and team 1 have better durability so team 1 wins.

Hulk doesn't have infinite strength, and Surfer sure as heck doesn't have infinite strength, either.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His primary speed is linked to his flight, which is barred. So unless Surfer can fly or at least hover on his board, he's not going to be doing much unless he's physically going to use his shield like a melee weapon. Which would be both hilarious and ridiculous.

Ask and ye shall receive...

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Surfer's pretty decent H2H, he's already beaten a grossly amped Skaar via his amped fists. He should be fine here, as long as he doesn't try to confront Hulk. Plus he's he can spam the board to the back trick here

Team SS. I mean seriously Hulk can take each of them on one on one but he cant take all of them at once without a proper team and seriously his team is shit. Literally, no offence to the guy who created the thread but your selection for Hulks team is no better then handing a bag full with shit to him.

I don't even know what can drop current Hulk. The guy was withstanding hits from a full powered Phoenix Cyclops before being tossed to another state.

Carver stop talking crap....

I don't see anyone on team SS beating Hulk one on one. But I can see most people on team SS beating Hulk's team mates. Thor or Sentry might be able to stall Hulk long enough so that their team mates can beat Hulk's team. Then they can all gang bang Hulk together to win.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hulk doesn't have infinite strength, and Surfer sure as heck doesn't have infinite strength, either. It's how you define infinite Jakey...

Originally posted by vince_slice
I don't see anyone on team SS beating Hulk one on one. But I can see most people on team SS beating Hulk's team mates. Thor or Sentry might be able to stall Hulk long enough so that their team mates can beat Hulk's team. Then they can all gang bang Hulk together to win. Exactly

WWH Sentry pretty much stalemated WWH in what was basically a fist fight. Even if he loses against Hulk here, the Hulk won't have much left in the tank to beat the rest of team one, although like I said earlier, some people have stated Red She Hulk could go toe to toe with WBH, so if that's true, then it would definitely change my opinion of this fight.

Lol...Sentry used more than fists against the Hulk. You must forgot that hurricane full of energy that everyone was shielding from? You must forgot Sentry blasting Hulk during most of that fight. The only time he fist cuffed (while still using his hurricane of energy) was during the end and that's debatable since we really didn't see that part up close and personal. When Sentry went fist cuffs against Hulk, he got his face busted open which lead to him spam blasting Hulk. Too bad that's taken out of this fight.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
WWH Sentry pretty much stalemated WWH in what was basically a fist fight. Even if he loses against Hulk here, the Hulk won't have much left in the tank to beat the rest of team one, although like I said earlier, some people have stated Red She Hulk could go toe to toe with WBH, so if that's true, then it would definitely change my opinion of this fight. *sigh*

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
WWH Sentry pretty much stalemated WWH in what was basically a fist fight. Even if he loses against Hulk here, the Hulk won't have much left in the tank to beat the rest of team one, although like I said earlier, some people have stated Red She Hulk could go toe to toe with WBH, so if that's true, then it would definitely change my opinion of this fight. Get your facts straight pillar that was WWH the one you see now is actually different if you ask me who is stronger I don't know how to answer you cause Mindless Hulk was always stronger than any Hulk with Banners mind and now Hulk refused with banner but he still looks the same...anyway back on topic WWH Still had tons of juice if he wanted to finish Sentry off he could have done it and yes you can argue if Miek did not told Hulk about his betrayal Banner would not have that spike to bring out the Hulk again thus makes you wonder if Banner could have Hulked out again in the first place, but he did anyway so it's a Huge Possiblity and no shit it was fist fight what was it then a cat fight? Did you even read Heart Of The Monster?(referring to your question about She Rulk) I have seen you lowball HOTM Hulk but you did not read the comic!? What pisses me more off is that you are prob one of those people who only look at scans or the comic itself where the amazing fts the character does that's being use as evidence that he/she can beat the opposing hero/villain and just lowball or look at the negatives or better yet find anyway possible to call it a fluke just for arguement sake.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Get your facts straight pillar that was WWH the one you see now is actually different if you ask me who is stronger I don't know how to answer you cause Mindless Hulk was always stronger than any Hulk with Banners mind and now Hulk refused with banner but he still looks the same...anyway back on topic WWH Still had tons of juice if he wanted to finish Sentry off he could have done it and yes you can argue if Miek did not told Hulk about his betrayal Banner would not have that spike to bring out the Hulk again thus makes you wonder if Banner could have Hulked out again in the first place, but he did anyway so it's a Huge Possiblity and no shit it was fist fight what was it then a cat fight? Did you even read Heart Of The Monster?(referring to your question about She Rulk) I have seen you lowball HOTM Hulk but you did not read the comic!? What pisses me more off is that you are prob one of those people who only look at scans or the comic itself of the amazing fts the character does that's being use as evidence he/she can beat the opposing hero/villain just lowball them for you arguement sake.

Get my facts straight? Did you read my post. I clearly said it was WWH in the fight between Sentry "and WWH". So I'm not sure how I managed to confuse you there.

Clearly I didn't read the entire HoTM run either, not sure how you can get confused by that either. Where did I claim I had read it in it's entirity? It would be nice if you could quote me somewhere saying I did. And it's hilarious that you're making fun of me for not having read it. Sorry, I haven't read every comic book ever written about every character I debate about here.

Are you claiming that you've read every comic book in every series ever written? If so, maybe you should get out of your parent's basement every now and again and get some sun.

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Ok, I take it back...he did nothing but blast in that fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Sentry used more than fists against the Hulk. You must forgot that hurricane full of energy that everyone was shielding from? You must forgot Sentry blasting Hulk during most of that fight. The only time he fist cuffed (while still using his hurricane of energy) was during the end and that's debatable since we really didn't see that part up close and personal. When Sentry went fist cuffs against Hulk, he got his face busted open which lead to him spam blasting Hulk. Too bad that's taken out of this fight. Carver let him have this one man

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Sentry used more than fists against the Hulk. You must forgot that hurricane full of energy that everyone was shielding from? You must forgot Sentry blasting Hulk during most of that fight. The only time he fist cuffed (while still using his hurricane of energy) was during the end and that's debatable since we really didn't see that part up close and personal. When Sentry went fist cuffs against Hulk, he got his face busted open which lead to him spam blasting Hulk. Too bad that's taken out of this fight.

When I say "BASICALLY a fist fight" it means that obviously other things besides swinging of fists were involved at one point. 9 out of 10 panels of the two fighting could be construed as a fist fight. Yeah, he released some energy to blow up a couple of blocks of manhattan, which also happened to leave the normal humans standing nearby completely unscathed, so yeah, you made a great point once again.

Originally posted by carver9
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Ok, I take it back...he did nothing but blast in that fight.

Looked like a lot of energy being released as by products of punches, but yeah, great point. But yeah, there is one scan there that was a "blast". So I guess I should have used a different word than "Basically" a fist fight.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Get my facts straight? Did you read my post. I clearly said it was WWH in the fight between Sentry "and WWH". So I'm not sure how I managed to confuse you there.

Clearly I didn't read the entire HoTM run either, not sure how you can get confused by that either. Where did I claim I had read it in it's entirity? It would be nice if you could quote me somewhere saying I did. And it's hilarious that you're making fun of me for not having read it. Sorry, I haven't read every comic book ever written about every character I debate about here.

Are you claiming that you've read every comic book in every series ever written? If so, maybe you should get out of your parent's basement every now and again and get some sun. You are using WWH Sentry as evidence he can come to a close stalemate to current hulk despite the fact this two are way different for example current hulk got his ass kicked by doom but while that he also displayed planetary strength...see the difference between current hulk and WWH...

HOTM was barely 5 freaking issues yet you can't even spend the time to read one of them or at least the one where hulk and his red whore busted the dark dimension and instead look at the scans and claim shit like Hulk died during the fight like some people I know..

for the record the team with sentry on it wipes out entire team 2 with ease and then surfer and sentry AND gladiator against hulk yea ok bad team 2 pick some stronger teams and its more of a fight

I forgot a blasting scan..he really spammed blasts in this one.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh021.jpg

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Looked like a lot of energy being released as by products of punches, but yeah, great point. But yeah, there is one scan there that was a "blast". So I guess I should have used a different word than "Basically" a fist fight.

Please read above...I forgot a scan.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
When I say "BASICALLY a fist fight" it means that obviously other things besides swinging of fists were involved at one point. 9 out of 10 panels of the two fighting could be construed as a fist fight. Yeah, he released some energy to blow up a couple of blocks of manhattan, which also happened to leave the normal humans standing nearby completely unscathed, so yeah, you made a great point once again.


No, Sentry spammed blast that entire fight and still lost. A Sentry that was unleashing "everything" on Hulk. Don't see how that fight helps your case here. If anything, it destroys it since Sentry not only used his fists but went exotic and still couldn't stop the Hulk who went Super Saiyan a couple of panels after his fight against Sentry.

the fight where sentry and hulk knock eachother out?

Originally posted by carver9
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Ok, I take it back...he did nothing but blast in that fight. If you ask it was more like Sentry pouring out energry but yes he did gave Hulk a blast or 2

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hulk doesn't have infinite strength, and Surfer sure as heck doesn't have infinite strength, either. It's how you define infinite Jakey...

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
the fight where sentry and hulk knock eachother out?

Sentry was carried to the hospital, Hulk was ok after the fight.

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Originally posted by TheHulk
If you ask it was more like Sentry pouring out energry but yes he did gave Hulk a blast or 2

Look at the above scans as well and hush TheHulk...just hush. He is clearly blasting him in those scans. Especially this one.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh021.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Look at the above scans as well and hush TheHulk...just hush. He is clearly blasting him in those scans. Especially this one.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh021.jpg Second one In that scans was a possible punch....hush? Hush!?!? You asked me to hush!?!! I will give you a atomic wedgie boy! Then you will be the one who will do the hushing!

there is a fight where they knock eachother out prob a different book then what im thinking of

Originally posted by TheHulk
Second one In that scans was a possible punch.....

We are done with this discussion.

Originally posted by carver9
We are done with this discussion. Okay fine I will give you the privilege of a proper arguement

Originally posted by TheHulk
Okay fine I will give you the privilege of a proper arguement

In all of those scenes, energy is circling his hands while attacking Hulk and the same energy was circling his hands in the second scene and we see no sign of a punch in the second panel...we see energy turning Hulks head. That was clearly a blast unless you can explain to me why he would blast in every panel except that one.

Originally posted by carver9
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Ok, I take it back...he did nothing but blast in that fight.

First Scan. Looks like both punch and blast. I'll side with blast if I had to pick

Second scan. Sentry pouring out his energy -.-

Third scan. Still shows Sentry pouring out his energy....nice arguement we are having here Carver...

Fourth scan. It was more like Sentry projecting Energy With his hands does not seem it was directed to Hulk despite the fact both were so close..

Fifth scan. Shows Sentry and Hulk tackling each other physically but admittedly Sentry was trying to use his energy against him but got caught...

The rest of the actually was a giant ass fist fight......again nice arguement Carver! what's next carver a waffles vs pancake debate?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF is Surfer doing here, let alone leading a team?

Why shouldn't he be there?

Team 1. Particularly as it's current Hulk and not WWH.

WWH > Current Hulk. So showing Sentry physically stalemating a more powerful Hulk makes sense to me. Most people I've talked to think that the WWH/Sentry brawl was essentially a slugfest. Particularly since Sentry didn't demolecularized Hulk, energy drain him, use his vast super speed advantage, fly out of reach of him, etc etc etc.

It's the same syndrome Thor, the SS, and everyone else has against the Hulk. Just duke it out with him. Just because energy was flying off of Sentry's fists while he was punching doesn't make it any less of a slug fest.

Show me Sentry punching Hulk during that fight and you would probably have an argument. Also, Sentry did use his speed against Hulk and it costed him. What is flying out of range going to do when his energy output did nothing to the Hulk but piss him off.? Everything was tried on this version of Hulk and it ALL failed...ALL OF IT and you think flying out of range, spamming Hulk with blast will change anything...yeah freaking right. That's only going to make him stronger and harder for you defeat...especially when you see that everything is failing and your only choice would be to punch him to sleep (which would now be even worse since yu pissed him off by spamming blasts. Now you have to out punch a more powerful Hulk). People fail to realize that spamming anything against the Hulk is the worst thing anyone can do.

Originally posted by ODG
Team 1. Particularly as it's current Hulk and not WWH. The creator of The Strongest Respect Thread There Is has spoken

Originally posted by keiththegreat
WWH > Current Hulk. So showing Sentry physically stalemating a more powerful Hulk makes sense to me. Most people I've talked to think that the WWH/Sentry brawl was essentially a slugfest. Particularly since Sentry didn't demolecularized Hulk, energy drain him, use his vast super speed advantage, fly out of reach of him, etc etc etc.

It's the same syndrome Thor, the SS, and everyone else has against the Hulk. Just duke it out with him. Just because energy was flying off of Sentry's fists while he was punching doesn't make it any less of a slug fest. Read the comic again man. Sentry used his speed to bash Hulk to a building didn't do jack shit..used energy projection it failed,Hulks Resistance towards drainiage is top notch alot of powerful people failed,Sentry was using his agility in the entire fight...just becuz Hulk managed to land a hit does not mean Sentry was slow seriously Hulk ain't a slug...

Even with the only HTH fighting stipulation, Id give Team SS the wins here (Red She Hulk and Skaar are out of their league here).

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Silver Surfer
Thor
Gladiator
Sentry (WWH)
Hercules (Classic)

vs

Current Hulk
Current Red Hulk
Skaar
Red She Hulk
Abomination

Battle is head to head only. Characters will not use energy projection, shielding, flight, etc.

The only power besides strength, speed and durability they will use is amping their strength and durability, if they have this ability. Thor will use his hammer to hit opponents, but won't use any of it's exotic powers. The SS can use his board to hit people with.

Characters can use whatever combat speed they have in the fight.
In a Fist Fight Glads is the 2nd biggest threat on the field (Hulk 1st) Kallark has planet busting fists, for those of you who dont know.

As for the argument of hulk vs Sentry: even if hulk takes sentry out the rest of T1 will beat there opponents then its 4v1
Team 1 8/10

Originally posted by DTM
Even with the only HTH fighting stipulation, Id give Team SS the wins here (Red She Hulk and Skaar are out of their league here). as is abomination

Originally posted by armedforbattle
In a Fist Fight Glads is the 2nd biggest threat on the field (Hulk 1st) Kallark has planet busting fists, for those of you who dont know.

As for the argument of hulk vs Sentry: even if hulk takes sentry out the rest of T1 will beat there opponents then its 4v1
Team 1 8/10
No.

Yes.

You could argue that Thor is more of a threat, tbh.

He is. Better fighter, stronger, etc.

More of threat, I guess since he has his Mjolnir.
But stronger. Not IMO.

Don't get me going. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/uhuh.gif

Lets stay on subject
I just started a new thread for thor vs glads.
So we can discuss it there :

Originally posted by carver9
Look at the above scans as well and hush TheHulk...just hush. He is clearly blasting him in those scans. Especially this one.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh021.jpg Looks like he's pimpslapping Hulk to me.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He is. Better fighter, stronger, etc.

Lol.

Team 2 wins, but Sentry will be pimp slapping the shit out of whoever he fights.

Originally posted by Mindset
Team 2 wins, but Sentry will be pimp slapping the shit out of whoever he fights.


LOL...are you trying to get my attention Mindset?

Originally posted by carver9
LOL...are you trying to get my attention Mindset?

He's a pimp.

Are you saying a slap from him is how to get your attention?

Are you saying you are, in fact, a whore?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's a pimp.

Are you saying a slap from him is how to get your attention?

Are you saying you are, in fact, a whore?

Carver confirmed for my bottom *****.

http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/season_13/sp_1309_clip06.jpg

WTF

Sentry solos Hulks entourage, Thor and Herc slay Hulk

Surfer and Gladiator stay in space as they are not needed