Star Wars Vs Twilight

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Nietzschean
The Twilight Vamps must face the Jedi Knights who have come to this dirt water planet having sense a ripple in the Force.

The cause are the vampires and skinwalkers.
The Jedi's are Anakin, Obi Wan, and Qui-Gon Jinn


1. Jedi Knights vs Volturi

2. Jedi Knights vs The Cullen's

3. Jedi Knights vs both vampire covens.


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marwash22
omg, Jedi die.

inb4 "Jedi have Battle precog" roll eyes (sarcastic)

FrothByte
Just 3 Jedi? That's kinda lopsided I think. At least Yoda could have been included. Is this Anakin before Vader?

Anyway, against the Volturi they die. Volturi have way too many fancy powers for the Jedi.

Against the Cullens they have a better chance, but probably still die. Jedi might have battle precog but vamps have super speed. If it was 3 against 3 then Jedi can probably pull off a win, but they're what, outnumbered 2 to 1? Plus Alice has far stronger precog than anyone of the Jedi.

Combining Volturi and Cullens will be a stomp.

dadudemon
Originally posted by marwash22
omg, Jedi die.

inb4 "Jedi have Battle precog" roll eyes (sarcastic)

I say the battle precog is enough for a mediocre Jedi to kill a newborn, for sure. A seasoned vampire that is familiar with their physical abilities? No chance even for the best of force users.

This thread should include EU characters. Move it to the "AvF", I say. Give the vamps a chance to be diced by sabers.

Casper Whitey
Jane solos, unfortunately.

Dolos
Are lightsabers meaningless now?

Let me guess, they're going to dodge every single lightsaber attack?

juggerman
Originally posted by Dolos
Are lightsabers meaningless now?

Let me guess, they're going to dodge every single lightsaber attack?

Edward can read minds and Alice can tell the future. Yeah i'd say dodging is an option here

Nibedicus
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Jane solos, unfortunately.

Jane/Alec and AK seem to ge the no limits fallacy of these boards these days.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Jane/Alec and AK seem to ge the no limits fallacy of these boards these days.

The Jedi's have no defense against their mental attacks. How is that a no limits fallacy?

Nibedicus
Originally posted by FrothByte
The Jedi's have no defense against their mental attacks. How is that a no limits fallacy?

Who said anything about Jedi?

It just seems to affect everyone automatically even though it's only proven (shown on screen) to affect vampires, humans and werewolves who haven't shown any mental defenses or training yet ppl insist that it works automatically even against minds shown to be far stronger than the ones affected in tne movies even though a human girl with simply an excessive amounts of angst manages to block it from her mind nonchalantly.

Teen angst >>> Jedi training, mutant minds and gods, I guess.

Flyattractor
Wow. TwiHards don't know how the force works..

Jedi's stomp.

BruceSkywalker
yeah this twilight "all bundyness" is beyond stupid.. Jedi stomp

dadudemon
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Jane/Alec and AK seem to ge the no limits fallacy of these boards these days.

Jane has a limit: I think Bella said dozens a second when it comes to how many "pain" darts she throws. That is a clear limit. And Alec's sense block thing is a mist/cloud that people have to enter to become nulled. That is a clear limit, as well.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Who said anything about Jedi?

It just seems to affect everyone automatically even though it's only proven (shown on screen) to affect vampires, humans and werewolves who haven't shown any mental defenses or training yet ppl insist that it works automatically even against minds shown to be far stronger than the ones affected in tne movies even though a human girl with simply an excessive amounts of angst manages to block it from her mind nonchalantly.

Teen angst >>> Jedi training, mutant minds and gods, I guess.

Actually, it works just fine against humans. Bella was a special exception because she was the only human/vampire to have a special ability to block mental vampire abilities. Jane tried to use it against Bella in the second movie/book but it failed much to Jane's chagrin. Edward feared that it may kill Bella (jane's pain thing) because a vampire experienced tons of agony so a human may die from an aneurism or heart attack...just guessing was to why Edward feared Bella's death. Anyway, why would Edward care if she was hit with Jane's attack and why would Jane try to use it against Bella if it didn't work against humans? smile

NemeBro
The movie Jedi aren't beating Twivamps, lol.

Nephthys
Yeah, too fast, too strong plus a bunch of crazy powers.

omgchos
I hate to be the one to point out a positive for anything involving the prequels. But here goes. If a jedi can place his light sabre in the way of a laser(albeit a remarkably slow looking one) reflexes arent a problem. Also we do see the jedi in phantom menace move at incredible speed tho we never get to see this again. So all in all if you ignore plot-holes, lol, the jedi do have some redeeming qualities here that arent being addressed. And i also agree that the sheer numbers here don't seem to be fair. Unless this was intended as a spite thread against the twivamps, who the thread starter seems to underrate.

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by omgchos
I hate to be the one to point out a positive for anything involving the prequels. But here goes. If a jedi can place his light sabre in the way of a laser(albeit a remarkably slow looking one) reflexes arent a problem. Also we do see the jedi in phantom menace move at incredible speed tho we never get to see this again. So all in all if you ignore plot-holes, lol, the jedi do have some redeeming qualities here that arent being addressed. None of that matters against mindrapes.

Nephthys
Originally posted by omgchos
I hate to be the one to point out a positive for anything involving the prequels. But here goes. If a jedi can place his light sabre in the way of a laser(albeit a remarkably slow looking one) reflexes arent a problem. Also we do see the jedi in phantom menace move at incredible speed tho we never get to see this again. So all in all if you ignore plot-holes, lol, the jedi do have some redeeming qualities here that arent being addressed. And i also agree that the sheer numbers here don't seem to be fair. Unless this was intended as a spite thread against the twivamps, who the thread starter seems to underrate.

The problem is that a laser can't dodge the lightsaber at vampire speeds. If a Jedi puts his lightsaber in the way of a vampire, they will just move around it.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
yeah this twilight "all bundyness" is beyond stupid.. Jedi stomp


Originally posted by Flyattractor
Wow. TwiHards don't know how the force works..

Jedi's stomp.


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BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
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posting some ignorant photoshop image won't that fact the jedi win

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
posting some ignorant photoshop image won't that fact the jedi win Lol, you calling me ignorant. That's awesome.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Lol, you calling me ignorant. That's awesome.


dude please, i guess you can't read..

shame though.. i won't explain what i said

Nibedicus
Originally posted by dadudemon
Jane has a limit: I think Bella said dozens a second when it comes to how many "pain" darts she throws. That is a clear limit. And Alec's sense block thing is a mist/cloud that people have to enter to become nulled. That is a clear limit, as well.

Actually, it works just fine against humans. Bella was a special exception because she was the only human/vampire to have a special ability to block mental vampire abilities. Jane tried to use it against Bella in the second movie/book but it failed much to Jane's chagrin. Edward feared that it may kill Bella (jane's pain thing) because a vampire experienced tons of agony so a human may die from an aneurism or heart attack...just guessing was to why Edward feared Bella's death. Anyway, why would Edward care if she was hit with Jane's attack and why would Jane try to use it against Bella if it didn't work against humans? smile

Never said it wouldn't work against humans. When did I say that? Just stated that it's failed before. And against a human (Bella).

Thing is, those abilities have failed before against beings with any kind of mental shielding. Yet ppl seem to assume that they would always work even against ppl who have proven to have mental resistance. That is a no-limits fallacy IMO.

omgchos
Originally posted by Nephthys
The problem is that a laser can't dodge the lightsaber at vampire speeds. If a Jedi puts his lightsaber in the way of a vampire, they will just move around it.
Not at theat ridiculous speed they showed, albeit only that one time. Like i said too many inconsistent feats for the jedi in Phantom Menace. Just pointing out that no one had even tried to mention it yet.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
dude please, i guess you can't read..

shame though.. i won't explain what i said


Lol, wut? "posting some ignorant photoshop image won't that fact the jedi win" is an example of what's wrong with this forum. People (like you here) pick their favorites to win, despite the overwhelming evidence that they in fact lose.

The Twivamps are too fast, too strong and have too many odd powers. I love the Jedi, but you don't see me fanboying.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Never said it wouldn't work against humans. When did I say that? Just stated that it's failed before. And against a human (Bella).

Thing is, those abilities have failed before against beings with any kind of mental shielding. Yet ppl seem to assume that they would always work even against ppl who have proven to have mental resistance. That is a no-limits fallacy IMO.

So which other beings are you talking about where those powers failed?

Those abilities have never failed against anyone else except Bella. Bella, whom although human, has a specific power that completely negates mental powers on her.

Bella doesn't just have some mental resistance, she is COMPLETELY mentally shielded. She doesn't even have to put effort into it. That is not the same as some other telepaths who need to put effort into shielding themselves like Prof. X or Jean Grey.

Simply having mental discipline or mental powers does not make the person immune to Jane. Now you're acting as if anyone with any sort of mental powers (like the Jedi) have a chance at countering Jane. That's just plain silly.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by FrothByte
So which other beings are you talking about where those powers failed?

Those abilities have never failed against anyone else except Bella. Bella, whom although human, has a specific power that completely negates mental powers on her.

Bella doesn't just have some mental resistance, she is COMPLETELY mentally shielded. She doesn't even have to put effort into it. That is not the same as some other telepaths who need to put effort into shielding themselves like Prof. X or Jean Grey.

Simply having mental discipline or mental powers does not make the person immune to Jane. Now you're acting as if anyone with any sort of mental powers (like the Jedi) have a chance at countering Jane. That's just plain silly.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Who said anything about Jedi?

I was talking about the no limits fallacy going around with some arguments on the board. Not once did I mention anything to do with the Jedi. Why would you make up a position I never even alluded to and in fact made a point to mention that I never alluded to it? Did you not read my replies?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I was talking about the no limits fallacy going around with some arguments on the board. Not once did I mention anything to do with the Jedi. Why would you make up a position I never even alluded to and in fact made a point to mention that I never alluded to it? Did you not read my replies?

Because this thread is about Jedi's?

Fine, you're not talking about Jedi's. Can you please state an example of someone else besides Bella countering Jane? How can it be a no limits fallacy when dadudemon already stated the limits of Jane's powers?

If you want a real example of a no limits fallacy, how bout Wolverine being able to heal from each and every injury. Or how about Batman beating anyone as long as he has prep time.

Bella isn't just "some human". She is human with powers.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by FrothByte
Because this thread is about Jedi's?

Fine, you're not talking about Jedi's. Can you please state an example of someone else besides Bella countering Jane? How can it be a no limits fallacy when dadudemon already stated the limits of Jane's powers?

If you want a real example of a no limits fallacy, how bout Wolverine being able to heal from each and every injury. Or how about Batman beating anyone as long as he has prep time.

Bella isn't just "some human". She is human with powers.

Ok, to put it simply:

Bella's power has been shown to block out other mental powers. Since no1 (other than her daughter) has been able to bypass her powers, ppl assume that her powers would block out anyone's power regardless of power levels even tho, on screen, we've only seen her powers block 1) basic telepathy (Edward) 2) Illusions/mental powers of varying degrees by other vampires. Again this is regardless of what other powers and mental resistances are demonstrated by the targets Example: Phoenix, Prof X (no limits fallacy no.1).

And since Bella has been the only one who has been able to block Jane's powers and there seems to be no limits to what she can block, then ppl assume that Jane's powers automatically affect anyone else (other than Bella) regardless of what abilities/resistance/training the other person has (no limits fallacy no. 2).

That is why we should debate "Feat-to-feat". What is the strongest power/who is the strongest telepath she resisted? Who is the strongest will/most mental training that these powers worked against? Then we can establish the range in which her powers can be debated to work against. And not "just because it worked on everyone in her world thus it works on everyone period.".

FrothByte
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Ok, to put it simply:

Bella's power has been shown to block out other mental powers. Since no1 (other than her daughter) has been able to bypass her powers, ppl assume that her powers would block out anyone's power regardless of power levels even tho, on screen, we've only seen her powers block 1) basic telepathy (Edward) 2) Illusions/mental powers of varying degrees by other vampires. Again this is regardless of what other powers and mental resistances are demonstrated by the targets Example: Phoenix, Prof X (no limits fallacy no.1).

And since Bella has been the only one who has been able to block Jane's powers and there seems to be no limits to what she can block, then ppl assume that Jane's powers automatically affect anyone else (other than Bella) regardless of what abilities/resistance/training the other person has (no limits fallacy no. 2).

That is why we should debate "Feat-to-feat". What is the strongest power/who is the strongest telepath she resisted? Who is the strongest will/most mental training that these powers worked against? Then we can establish the range in which her powers can be debated to work against. And not "just because it worked on everyone in her world thus it works on everyone period.".

You're looking at this wrong. You mistake quantity over quality.

Just because Edward's telepathy only allows him to read minds, that doesn't mean that he's not strong at it. He may not have as varied powers as Prof. X does, but he's very strong at what he can do. He automatically, effortlessly hears the thoughts of everyone around him. In the movies he's shown he's able to do this even if not within line of sight of said persons.

Aro's power allows him to know everything on your mind, from your very past to the present, with a simple touch. Neither Prof. X or Phoenix has ever shown telepathy that strong in such a short time. Bella had no problems blocking that out either.

Now before you say "but none of the vamps have ever stopped a whole room of people in their tracks", that's because none of the vamps have this particular power. I could also say that neither Prof. X or Phoenix has every shown they can cut off somebody completely from their senses... and Bella blocked that too.

It doesn't matter how strong the mental powers of the person is, Bella doesn't need to fight them off. Their powers just slip off her. So Jane's power not working on her is not a show of weakness from Jane's point of view.

Point is, Jane has been able to perform her mind pain on every single target she's tried it on (except bella). She's inflicted this on other vamps with mind powers.

If you want to claim that someone with sufficient mind powers can fight off jane's pain, then it's up to you to provide proof.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by FrothByte
You're looking at this wrong. You mistake quantity over quality.

Just because Edward's telepathy only allows him to read minds, that doesn't mean that he's not strong at it. He may not have as varied powers as Prof. X does, but he's very strong at what he can do. He automatically, effortlessly hears the thoughts of everyone around him. In the movies he's shown he's able to do this even if not within line of sight of said persons.

Aro's power allows him to know everything on your mind, from your very past to the present, with a simple touch. Neither Prof. X or Phoenix has ever shown telepathy that strong in such a short time. Bella had no problems blocking that out either.

Now before you say "but none of the vamps have ever stopped a whole room of people in their tracks", that's because none of the vamps have this particular power. I could also say that neither Prof. X or Phoenix has every shown they can cut off somebody completely from their senses... and Bella blocked that too.

It doesn't matter how strong the mental powers of the person is, Bella doesn't need to fight them off. Their powers just slip off her. So Jane's power not working on her is not a show of weakness from Jane's point of view.

Point is, Jane has been able to perform her mind pain on every single target she's tried it on (except bella). She's inflicted this on other vamps with mind powers.

If you want to claim that someone with sufficient mind powers can fight off jane's pain, then it's up to you to provide proof.

And you're looking at my argument wrong.

Some of what you're doing is PRECISELY what I want to happen here. People need to argue degrees and levels and argue what is shown on-screen, not just simply go "Jane incapacitates X, Bella blocks Y" they need to show on screen proof of levels and range. That's it. If you can provide that, good on you. But you need to provide it.

One question, tho. Why is the burden of proof always on the other end when discussing w/c powers affect who? Isn't proving anything required on both sides?

For example, I can provide proof that Prof X has fought off high level illusions for DAYS even while his power was blocked (vs Jason Stryker @ Mutants United) thus I can argue hr'd be ab,e to resist Jane's powers easily, especially with his powers up.

Edit. What seemed like days anyway, been a while since I watched Mutants United.

FrothByte
The burden of proof always falls on the one who claims something should/shouldn't happen, but has not been shown yet .

For example, if I claim that Anderson Silva can beat every other MMA fighter out there, and you claim that he can't, burden of proof falls to you since it has been shown that Silva beat every MMA fighter out there... thus my point already has standing proof (until proven wrong). Your claim "that someone can beat him" still needs to be proven since it hasn't happened yet.

Now apply that here. I claim that Jane's powers work on everyone not name Bella. I don't need to prove that because so far, it already has standing proof. Her power has always been shown to work unless faced with Bella.

Now you claim that it won't work on someone with sufficient mind powers (who is not Bella), but that has never been shown yet. All the other beings she has tried her powers on, whether that person had mind powers or not, has been affected. That is why you need to provide the proof, because so far no one else has been able to do what you're claiming.

Now I want to correct something I said earlier. I don't believe Bella actually had mind powers, at least not until she became a vamp. From how Edward describes her, her mind is like a blank wall, and Bella thinks there's something wrong with her. I mean, sure you can call that a power, but (my opinion only), a power is something you can utilize and have some degree of control on. Bella's blank mind... it seemed more a deformity than a power.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by FrothByte
The burden of proof always falls on the one who claims something should/shouldn't happen, but has not been shown yet .

For example, if I claim that Anderson Silva can beat every other MMA fighter out there, and you claim that he can't, burden of proof falls to you since it has been shown that Silva beat every MMA fighter out there... thus my point already has standing proof (until proven wrong). Your claim "that someone can beat him" still needs to be proven since it hasn't happened yet.

Now apply that here. I claim that Jane's powers work on everyone not name Bella. I don't need to prove that because so far, it already has standing proof. Her power has always been shown to work unless faced with Bella.

Now you claim that it won't work on someone with sufficient mind powers (who is not Bella), but that has never been shown yet. All the other beings she has tried her powers on, whether that person had mind powers or not, has been affected. That is why you need to provide the proof, because so far no one else has been able to do what you're claiming.

Now I want to correct something I said earlier. I don't believe Bella actually had mind powers, at least not until she became a vamp. From how Edward describes her, her mind is like a blank wall, and Bella thinks there's something wrong with her. I mean, sure you can call that a power, but (my opinion only), a power is something you can utilize and have some degree of control on. Bella's blank mind... it seemed more a deformity than a power.

Actually, burden of proof falls on the person who said something happens. Claiming Jane's powers would work on someone is a positive and proof needs to be proven.

And your example is wrong. What would be more accurate would be to claim that Anderson Silva never lost a fight in MMA (not true, I know, as he's lost 2 fights IIRC) thus no one in the world can beat him in any fight. Even fictional ones against fictional MMA battles against superstrong/fast opponents.

You're comparing apples and oranges here, that is why establishing range is important.

And I'm sorry just because something has been shown to work on everything within a limited sample, does not mean that it works on everything else. That is the definition of what a no-limits fallacy is (from Wiki):

The no limits fallacy is the illogical idea that a poorly understood phenomenon can be extrapolated to infinity or assumed to not have any maximum value or threshold. For a gross example, observing that a shield can easily withstand an attack from a particular weapon, one might illogically conclude that the shield could withstand fire from an unlimited number of those weapons at the same time, or that it could withstand fire from a similar weapon that was much more powerful.

Also, Bella did have "powers" per se. But the reason of her powers (according to what I remember in the movie and read in Wiki anyway) was her "mind" which was "closed to the world" due to her personality like her dad's (that personality trait then got enhanced when she became a vamp). Not really impressive basis of degrees tbh.

quanchi112
Twilight beat the jedi here. Only three and not even the best 3.

Casper Whitey
Voldemort rapes.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Voldemort rapes. ?

elrond72
Your right I think twilight would beat those three jedi ( funnily, no-one has mentioned the wolves yet surely they are also in the twilight universe). Sheer force (soz) of numbers would be their downfall. So I move for this thread rules to be altered to include the following:

Windu

Yoda
If you really want to give the jedi an advantage and have it for any jedi that existed dont forget:

Quinlan Vos
Luke Skywalker
Daughter (any not familiar with the SWEU look it up. She kicks serious ass and would pound Jane into pulp)
Please, if these rules are agreed to, no-one start bringing Sith into it.

Robtard
Jedi win then. It's either you give Twilight a massive numbers advantage and they win due to having the luxury of sacrificing 2+ to kill one, or the Jedi stomp with equal or almost equal numbers.

FFS, watch the Twilight fight scenes, they have trouble dodging gigantic wolves, they have no defense against a lightsabre or Force attacks.

Yoda: "**** yourselves, you all will."

*Twivamps proceed to **** themselves*

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Jedi win then. It's either you give Twilight a massive numbers advantage and they win due to having the luxury of sacrificing 2+ to kill one, or the Jedi stomp with equal or almost equal numbers.

FFS, watch the Twilight fight scenes, they have trouble dodging gigantic wolves, they have no defense against a lightsabre or Force attacks.

Yoda: "**** yourselves, you all will."

*Twivamps proceed to **** themselves* Too many in this scenario.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Robtard
Jedi win then. It's either you give Twilight a massive numbers advantage and they win due to having the luxury of sacrificing 2+ to kill one, or the Jedi stomp with equal or almost equal numbers.

FFS, watch the Twilight fight scenes, they have trouble dodging gigantic wolves, they have no defense against a lightsabre or Force attacks.

Yoda: "**** yourselves, you all will."

*Twivamps proceed to **** themselves* They have trouble dodging the wolves because the wolves are that fast.

Robtard
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
They have trouble dodging the wolves because the wolves are that fast.

When running from point A to point B, they're incredibly fast. When fightinng (as seen over and over), they're not. Watch the damn clip.

Placidity
Originally posted by Robtard
When running from point A to point B, they're incredibly fast. When fightinng (as seen over and over), they're not. Watch the damn clip.

PIS so wolves won't look retarded.

As you are aware, twivamps have had super speed fights against each other.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Robtard
When running from point A to point B, they're incredibly fast. When fightinng (as seen over and over), they're not. Watch the damn clip. No, they dodge right/left just as fast. Watch the movies.

Robtard
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
No, they dodge right/left just as fast. Watch the movies.

Unfortunately I have; they don't.

Robtard
Originally posted by Placidity
PIS so wolves won't look retarded.

As you are aware, twivamps have had super speed fights against each other.

It's not like thy couldn't give CGI wolves super-speed fighting feats.

I'm aware of Edward fighting muscle-boy and the blurring. There's few examples of such compared to the many of them fighting not at super-speeds.

FrothByte
When all of the combatants are moving at the same blurring speed then there's no need to blur themselves. Thus (probably) the reason why when the wolves fight the vamps, they're all moving at the same speed and don't look to blur.

As for Edward vs. Felix, Bella was watching that which is probably why you see them blurring.

If memory serves me correct, the only time human Bella has ever seen a vampire fight was Edward vs. Felix and Edward vs. Victoria in the woods... and both fights showed blurring and slow mo. When Edward and the tracker fought in the first twi movie, Bella was already hurt and probably delusional so that doesn't count.

Of course I could be wrong, I'll have to re-watch all the fights of the Twi movies to be 100% sure (and I really don't feel like rewatching all them flicks), but it's a pretty logical argument.

Robtard
Reaching.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Robtard
Unfortunately I have; they don't. Yeah, they do. Unfortunately, like any other Twilight/Harry Potter thread here, you are incapable of posting with anything that resembles objectivity.

Villelater
jedi deflect laser gun blasts...how fast is a laser gun blast? and couldn't a jedi just use force powers to shove a twilight whatever to buy him time for a light saber attack? i vote jedi oh and heavy storm troopers not only have bazookas...landmines as well PS a laser strike can be called with the sniper probe which the probe is pretty fast

Casper Whitey
Cool story.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Robtard
Reaching.

So if we're both moving at the same speed, do we need to blur with each other?

If you think this is reaching, then you are clearly not using logic.

Robtard
Originally posted by FrothByte
So if we're both moving at the same speed, do we need to blur with each other?

If you think this is reaching, then you are clearly not using logic.

Wouldn't our environment seem to(ie branches moving in the wind, snow falling, outside viewers etc) slow down around us?

This is a common way directors relay to the audience that characters are moving at super-speeds. eh The One, Spider-Man, Blade, The Matrix etc.

Robtard
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Yeah, they do. Unfortunately, like any other Twilight/Harry Potter thread here, you are incapable of posting with anything that resembles objectivity.

I posted clips of the wolves fighting; no super fighting speeds.

Please post a clip of the wolves that proves your claims are correct, otherwise just like every MVF Harry Potter and Twilight thread you're dictating what you need to have happened, not what actually happened in the films. Claims need to be proven.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Robtard
I posted clips of the wolves fighting; no super fighting speeds.

Please post a clip of the wolves that proves your claims are correct, otherwise just like every MVF Harry Potter and Twilight thread you're dictating what you need to have happened, not what actually happened in the films. Claims need to be proven. So the vampires suddenly turn retarded when fighting wolves. Cool story.

Robtard
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
So the vampires suddenly turn retarded when fighting wolves. Cool story.

Apparently that is a line of thinking. Or more to the point, PIS so the wolves aren't useless on screen.

But that was a non sequitur response. Do post a clip of the wolves fighting at super-speeds anytime you want and "pwn" me.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Robtard
Apparently that is a line of thinking. Or more to the point, PIS so the wolves aren't useless on screen.

But that was a non sequitur response. Do post a clip of the wolves fighting at super-speeds anytime you want and "pwn" me.


Ask yourself this question: Do the Twivamps fight at super speeds?

Now, ask yourself this question: Do the Wolves have any trouble tagging Twivamps in battle?





There we have it.

Robtard
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Ask yourself this question: Do the Twivamps fight at super speeds?

Now, ask yourself this question: Do the Wolves have any trouble tagging Twivamps in battle?

There we have it.

They can. As it's shown a couple times.

Nope; that is the point.

So no clip, eh? Wasn't expecting one anyways.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Robtard
They can. As it's shown a couple times.

Nope; that is the point.

So no clip, eh? Wasn't expecting one anyways.


There it is then. I win.

Robtard
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
There it is then. I win.

Oh shit, then Blade must be as fast as La Magra, since he was able to hit him and we've clearly now established that if someone is able to hit someone else, they're automatically as fast as their opponent. Derp. Blade pwns Twilight. Derp. He pwns Voldermort and Snape! Derp.

Didn't Delroy Lindo's character get a hit on Lawless in The One? If so, damn, that is one fast black dude.

omgchos
La Magra was a cocky mofo. Didnt think blade was gonna pump his ass full of EDTA. But he was getting tagged by blade plenty before that. Cut his ass in half and what not.

Edit: Some mofos always tryna ice skate up hill.

Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Robtard
Oh shit, then Blade must be as fast as La Magra, since he was able to hit him and we've clearly now established that if someone is able to hit someone else, they're automatically as fast as their opponent. Derp. Blade pwns Twilight. Derp. He pwns Voldermort and Snape! Derp.

Didn't Delroy Lindo's character get a hit on Lawless in The One? If so, damn, that is one fast black dude. Aaaahahahahaa, fail. Nice try.

Robtard
Nope, pass with an A++++++. It shows how silly your argument is.

Casper Whitey
You really want me to dissect and rape what you said?

Robtard
Considering I used exactly what you said/used, you'd just be "raping" and "dissecting" your own argument. So please.

Casper Whitey
Which part first? La Magra or YuLaw?

Robtard
Originally posted by Robtard
Considering I used exactly what you said/used, you'd just be "raping" and "dissecting" your own argument. So please.

Casper Whitey
No, I mean what part of your post shall I touch on first?

Robtard
Is there some reason why you're delaying? Just go, if you're going to.

Casper Whitey
No, I wanna know which point you want me to rape first.

Robtard
PGNiXGX2nLU

Casper Whitey
Choose your destiny.

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