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Lobo
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/415/77956-32416-lobo_large.jpg
Doomsday
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/49256/2618268-251146_533427143340260_283012856_n_large.jpg
The General
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/1053866-generaluj3_large.jpg
Solomon Grundy
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/1808/101835-778-solomon-grundy_large.jpg
Citizen Steel
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6615/149023-169729-commander-steel_large.jpg

vs

Juggernaut
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/79830/2253640-juggernaut_4_large.jpg
Hulk
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/11/117443/2651909-incredible_hulk__43___page_12_large.jpg
Rulk
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/1030495-fohred2_large.jpg
Colosonaut
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/10/101444/2594073-c0_large.jpg
Kurse
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/90120-141675-kurse_large.jpg

Marvel

What are your matchups, supermutant?

Most current versions? Ie. Dcnu where applicable

Team Marvel but Rulk is hugely outclassed...

def think juggs team sweeps way to much durability

Citizen Steel is pretty durable. Gog wasn't able to put him down and hasn't shown that he could be harmed, plus he's quite strong. KC Superman wasn't able to take down Gog, yet CS did it with one blow, IIRC.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Most current versions? Ie. Dcnu where applicable

Team Marvel but Rulk is hugely outclassed...

Most of those guys haven't shown up in the DCnU yet.

Originally posted by Golgo13
What are your matchups, supermutant?

Kurse vs Doomsday
Hulk vs Solomon Grundy
Juggernaut vs Lobo
Rulk vs Shaggyman
Colossusnaut vs Citizen Steel

Pretty close matchups, outcomes could easily change with different versions.

nothing Colossonaut could do to CS, especially given his durability. Stalemate. Same thing with Lobo/Juggernaut. And Kurse above Doomsday? I doubt it.

Why is it always LOBO vs a Hulk or Juggernaut?


Are You people's imaginations really that dead?

Lobo would get trounced by Juggernaut, IMHO. Truth be told, looking at all the guys on both sides, Lobo is on the lower end of this spectrum here.

Originally posted by DTM
Lobo would get trounced by Juggernaut, IMHO. Truth be told, looking at all the guys on both sides, Lobo is on the lower end of this spectrum here.

lol WHAT? He's one of the most formidable, IMO. Especially looney tune, Lobo.

Not when compared to the rest of the Team Busters on this list.

Lobo is a teambuster as well, who has better regen factor than most of DC or Marvel.

Lobo has little to no chance to beat Doomsday, Kurse, The General, Juggernaut, and possibly Colossusnaut as well (if hes got the same physical invulnerability as Cain does). Id go with Hulk over Lobo in the end, though itd be a fight, and probably Lobo to beat Rulk and Grundy more than not (dont know anything about Steel).

Lobo has stood up to Superman and the Justice League. Of course he can take on The General (Who was taken out by a Amanda through a bomb in his head), Solomon Grundy (Who doesn't nearly have as good of a healing factor as Lobo), or Colossonaut. Lobo was eaten by a bunch of piranhas and was reduced to blood, yet came back instantly. Torn in half, had his head cut off, and a hole blasted through by Pulsar Stargrave, yet continued to fight. Never doubt the Main Man,

The General took on Superman, Orion (and Orions dog Thurm) all at once, and was winning. The only way the JLA could beat him was to teleport him elsewhere. Lobo is no where near that level of strong. In fact, The General is probably one of the most powerful guys on both teams here.

General doesn't have the healing as Lobo does. Not even close. Plus, Lobo has his high end feats in taking on the League and the Green Lantern corps.

Healing and Regneration are The Generals main abilities, he can basically heal from any physical damage, anything, in addition to being strong enough to toss Superman around like a ragdoll. Lobo is strong and tough, but not nearly that much so (yes I know he handled Superman very well in their first outting, but clearly Superman didnt know who he was and was taken by surprise, Superman handles Lobo quite well in their future meetings).

I just told you what the General was taken down by. Lobo would not have been so easily defeated. And the General's regen isn't even close. Show me scans of him being blown up, cut in half, and reduced to BLOOD. Then I will concede. Lobo is a team buster as well, so don't ignore that.

Im not ignoring anything, Im denying it completely. Lobo I wouldnt even give the win over Superman alone, while The General was beating Superman, Orion, Thurm, and then some. Lobo isnt in Generals league, Eiling took on a Top Level JLA Team and they only beat him by teleporting him away, Lobo wouldnt have a Hope In Heck in coming close to beating that same Top Level JLA Team.

Lobo has taken on teams before. Just like General. After WW3, the General's list of feats weren't so special, while Lobo surpassed him. Again, show me when the General has had regen feats on the level of Lobo.

Taking on teams and taking on a Top Level JLA team, are 2 very different things. Lobo cannot take on and do well against a team that consists of Superman, Jonn Jones, Orion, Wonder Woman, Big Barda, Green Lantern, etc, the General has, and did.

Lobo took the combined forces of the top mages in DC, which is actually the better durability/healing feat than what General did or anybody on DC's side. He's taken on multiple Lanterns such as Hal Jordan and Sinestro at once, and high heralds like Superman and Captain Marvel, so yes, he has.

Not all at once, no he hasnt. Look, youre clearly a big Lobo fan, thats cool, but I wont be convinced that he can come close to doing what Eiling did to the JLA. To me, hes on the mid-low end of all the characters on both teams here.

Yes, he did. Look in the respect thread. I said Top mages all at once. They're were like 4 or 5 of them and they couldn't do squat to Lobo.

Thats nice, good thing General wont be fighting Lobo with magic then. Brute force wise, which is what all of these guys bring to the table, Lobo has gotten severely hurt and KOed by this, and by weaker guys than General, Kurse, Doomsday and the like.

When has someone taken Lobo with brute strength alone? Scans? And when has General matched Lobo in regen factor?

I dont scan, I dont have the capability, I have memory though. Heck, for a number of years Guy Gardner was a match for Lobo, let along a being capable of fighting Superman, Orion and Wonder Woman at once, and win. Im actually shocked you think Lobo is a match for The General, as its not even close IMHO, they are just not on the same level.

Doubt it, until I see scans. Lobo has fragged the Authority, taken on mages in hell, taken on multiple lanterns at once, and multiple heroes like Cap and Superman. See, I can do the same.

Eh, if you say so. I have Lobo in a certain level, clearly you have him several levels higher.

Yes, because he has a ton of high end feats. Your argument is that General took on a JLA team and that was a great feat, but lets not forget that HAL JODAN ALONE stalemated the General. You want to use low feats, I just gave you one.

Eh, Guy Gardner incapped Lobo helplessly for Hours before, Id say thats an even lower feat, so were even now. And I dont recall Jordan ever fighting Eiling to a stand still before, when did that happen?

That's not The General's lowest feat. Amanda detonated a bomb in his head and he dropped like a sack of potatoes. Lobo wouldn't go out like that. Lobo has survived MUCH worse.

Originally posted by DTM
Eh, Guy Gardner incapped Lobo helplessly for Hours before, Id say thats an even lower feat, so were even now. And I dont recall Jordan ever fighting Eiling to a stand still before, when did that happen?

BTW, the scan is in this thread.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/marvel-powerhouse-vs-general-eiling/711685/?page=3

Wow, thats like the worst showing of Eiling EVER. Its like showing Superman get knocked unconscious by the Penguin. Did that writer even know who Eiling was when he wrote that scene??

He's had some other low showings. I think the last one was in Infinite Crisis by Geoff Johns. He was beaten off panel. Grant Morrison was the only writer to show him respect, I think. That and his pre-crisis days. For this thread and per rules, we are using everyone at their prime levels, so WW 3 General is what we will use here.

Also, Looney Tune Lobo as well. Looney I can frag fricken Gods Lobo.

The General dropped by Amanda was only a clone the original was left in the Phantom Zone after the fight with Orion,MM and Superman.
Infact the original General (in the original Shaggy Man body) got only 2 appearances and his HF is up there with Lobo's.In 1 panel he completly regrown his cut off arm.

Originally posted by Estacado
The General dropped by Amanda was only a clone the original was left in the Phantom Zone after the fight with Orion,MM and Superman.
Infact the original General (in the original Shaggy Man body) got only 2 appearances and his HF is up there with Lobo's.In 1 panel he completly regrown his cut off arm.

For real? What about the General that was dropped by Hal? And the one in the Outsiders?

BTW, Lobo still has the higher end regen feats.

IIRC Eiling's mind was downloaded into a clone with creppy HF that was the one Hal fought and Amanda took out....first Eiling's mind was downloaded into the original Shaggy Man who in pre-crisis reformed himself from being blown into pieces....

Wiki says those were 3 different Shaggy Men
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_Man_(comics)