Are you a little bit racist?
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SamZED
Remember that song? Well are you?
Symmetric Chaos
What do you mean, exactly, when you say racist?
Major_Lexington
vaguely rings a bell....
Colossus-Big C
Racist people disgust me. The're almost as bad as homosexuals.
Major_Lexington
Originally posted by -Pr-
Oh, irony...
Archaeopteryx
Racist, no. Specicist, yes.
Ascendancy
They took er jerbs...
Impediment
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Racist people disgust me. The're almost as bad as homosexuals.
Fail post of the year.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Racist people disgust me. The're almost as bad as homosexuals. Hey CBC, can I ask you a question? Well, you know that retard upstairs? Well, he's an *sshole, and you're an *sshole... you're both *ssholes...
Are you two related?
Impediment
He's a troll. Pure and simple.
Why isn't he banned?
Major_Lexington
maybe he was joking?
siriuswriter
Are you new? Although his posts make me laugh he's not joking. You should check out some of the threads he's made.
On the other hand, you shouldn't check out some of the threads he's made.
ETA Any way, good song. Avenue Q - the "dirty puppet" Broadway Show. I think the song is true. "Everyone's a bit racist sometimes." And then the song goes on to explain that it's not meant as an offense because it's just how you grew up and who your childhood thoughts come from and how they turn into adult thoughts.
Sad, but totally true. You could argue that it's the basic fear of different-ness that humans have, not racism, you know - we're afraid of what's different because we can't understand it. That's installed in everyone, and because it's a lifetime thing - Fight or Flight - it's just how first reactions are, even after people have grown and understood differences of color/race/gender.
Major_Lexington
I'd say I'm pretty new yeah. Good to know, will take a look around.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Racist people disgust me. The're almost as bad as homosexuals.
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Lord Lucien
What are you doing with my portfolio picture on your desk?
Nephthys
Maybe I'm a little bit racist. I live in a very white part of Britain but mostly its just that I tense up around black people because I don't want to say anything offensive. I do get nervous when talking to anyone I don't know very well but it seems a bit more so with black people.
KingD19
Originally posted by Nephthys
Maybe I'm a little bit racist. I live in a very white part of Britain but mostly its just that I tense up around black people because I don't want to say anything offensive. I do get nervous when talking to anyone I don't know very well but it seems a bit more so with black people.
You should go to South London for a day and record it.
Casper Whitey
Lol, black people.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Lol, black people. Lol I know, what a strange concept.
Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Lol I know, what a strange concept. Lolx4 at gay black people.
Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Impediment
Fail post of the year. how is it fail?
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how is it fail?
Because you're decrying racists for being prejudiced, and then displaying extreme prejudice of a different sort within the same sentence.
marwash22
Originally posted by SamZED
Remember that song? Well are you? no. i don't care enough about other people to hate them.
marwash22
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Racist people disgust me. The're almost as bad as homosexuals. Originally posted by Impediment
Fail post of the year.
Originally posted by Impediment
He's a troll. Pure and simple. that's exactly why it isn't a fail. He knew what he was doing.
Mindset
No, not a little bit.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by marwash22
that's exactly why it isn't a fail. He knew what he was doing.
I don't think CBC is a troll.
This post
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I didnt mean offend anyone, I was just joking for the most part
Im not homophobic, was just bored and trying to get someone angry.
is either him admitting to being a troll (which would be a lame copout considering that CBC's commitment to sounding stupid would make him an incredibly skilled troll were it all an act) or an attempt at dodging by a homophobe who's just realized he's not among like minds after shooting off his mouth and getting burned.
Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by marwash22
that's exactly why it isn't a fail. He knew what he was doing. what exactly was I doing?
My post was serious.
Edit. Nevermind I see what I did. I honestly didnt think about it like that.
Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think CBC is a troll.
This post
is either him admitting to being a troll (which would be a lame copout considering that CBC's commitment to sounding stupid would make him an incredibly skilled troll were it all an act) or an attempt at dodging by a homophobe who's just realized he's not among like minds after shooting off his mouth and getting burned. Why exactly do people here not have problems with homosexuals? You guys act as if just normal or OK or something.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Why exactly do people here not have problems with homosexuals? You guys act as if just normal or OK or something.
Because for a lot of people, it is okay and it is normal.
At the very least, on a purely silly level, gay guys are great wingmen, and the more of them there are, the less men there are trying to compete with you for the attention of women. How is that not a good thing.
Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by -Pr-
Because for a lot of people, it is okay and it is normal.
At the very least, on a purely silly level, gay guys are great wingmen, and the more of them there are, the less men there are trying to compete with you for the attention of women. How is that not a good thing. Why do they insist on trying to flirt with you even when you show obvious signs that you are not homosexual? My job for example.
This guy knows I have a girlfirend and kids.
-Pr-
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Why do they insist on trying to flirt with you even when you show obvious signs that you are not homosexual? My job for example.
hysterical
Signs like what? I'm genuinely curious.
Casper Whitey
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Why exactly do people here not have problems with homosexuals? You guys act as if just normal or OK or something.
Homosexuals? Gay.
Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by -Pr-
hysterical
Signs like what? I'm genuinely curious. I make myself look manly as possible
-Pr-
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I make myself look manly as possible
Specifics, please.
Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Why do they insist on trying to flirt with you even when you show obvious signs that you are not homosexual? My job for example.
Your job is to flirt with other men even when you know they're not gay?
Mindset
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Your job is to flirt with other men even when you know they're not gay? Someone has to do it.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I make myself look manly as possible That's probably why guys cum on to you so often.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Why do they insist on trying to flirt with you even when you show obvious signs that you are not homosexual? My job for example.
This guy knows I have a girlfirend and kids.
I'm pretty sure it's all in your imagination. I doubt there are any gay guys that find you attractive.
the ninjak
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm pretty sure it's all in your imagination. I doubt there are any gay guys that find you attractive.
He might very possibly be very girlish. Hence the obvious frustrations.
Major_Lexington
haha, this thread took a funny nose dive off topic.
Robtard
CBC is a self-loathing closeted homosexual, how you people haven't picked up on this yet is beyond me.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by the ninjak
He might very possibly be very girlish. Hence the obvious frustrations.
I don't get this notion that gay men are only attracted to effeminate, campy types.
Robtard
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't get this notion that gay men are only attracted to effeminate, campy types.
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marwash22
Don't get big papa bear Robtart started.
BlackZero30x
I make racist jokes with my friends and the people around me all time. Jokes of all races including my own but im not actually racist. However, if you met me for the first time I could see how it could be interpreted that I am racist. Although, I do see through that bull crap "I don't see color I only see people" that people try to say. There is obvious ethnic differences it's just understanding no one color is better then the rest.
Lord Lucien
Despite my melanin deficiency, I say the 'n' word too much to have any white friends. Nah wha I mean, dawg?
siriuswriter
Originally posted by Robtard
CBC is a self-loathing closeted homosexual, how you people haven't picked up on this yet is beyond me.
You skipped "narcissistic."
Robtard
Is that a fancy way of saying queer?
Lord Lucien
Stop being a narcissistic-o-sexual, Rob, and get back on your knees.
siriuswriter
Originally posted by Robtard
Is that a fancy way of saying queer?
No. "Queer" is the fancy way of saying "queer."
"Narcissistic" is the fancy way of saying "self-involved up to a dangerous point."
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by siriuswriter
No. "Queer" is the fancy way of saying "queer."
"Narcissistic" is the fancy way of saying "self-involved up to a dangerous point." toMAYto--toMAHto.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by siriuswriter
No. "Queer" is the fancy way of saying "queer."
"Narcissistic" is the fancy way of saying "self-involved up to a dangerous point."
You clearly don't know when someone is being facetious.
TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Racist people disgust me. The're almost as bad as homosexuals.
The irony overload of this post almost rivals this post:
Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to be objective for once. The guy you like more doesn't always win.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Omega Vision
You clearly don't know when someone is being facetious. Aren't you being a little esoteric?
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Aren't you being a little esoteric?
No, but you're being pedantic.
Ascendancy
What's up with the byzantine atmosphere going down in this piece?
Omega Vision
Lol, I took a narcissism test on Psych Central (no idea how accurate it is)--it says that I'm slightly below average overall, but that I have a fairly high sense of superiority.
Robtard
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I have a fairly high sense of superiority.
No. Certainly not that.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Ascendancy
What's up with the byzantine atmosphere going down in this piece? That's mighty loquacious words of you.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
That's mighty loquacious words of you.
That's mighty ungrammatical of you.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's mighty ungrammatical of you. I am become Grammer, speaker of thought forms.
Omega Vision
I like this conversation, it's sooo post-modern.
Lord Lucien
Whatever. I was in to conversations before they were transcendent.
Jim Colyer
Every human being on this planet is "racist." Only liars pretend not to be.
StyleTime
Except for me. I've never even had a racist thought.
I'm a rather exemplary person all around really.
GroverB
Sorry I have not any experience. Please You give to chance to any other.
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Existere
http://yoisthisracist.com/
Colossus-Big C
Aryan Brootherhood
The Pure Whites
Blond Hair, blue or grey eyes. All other white people are contaminated with non white blood
Jk
I know people who seriously have these beliefs.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Aryan Brootherhood
The Pure Whites
Blond Hair, blue or grey eyes. All other white people are contaminated with non white blood
Jk
I know people who seriously have these beliefs.
Yeah, just like I know this one guy who thinks homophobia is natural, and that storing assault rifles and life saving in a car is good sense.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah, just like I know this one guy who thinks homophobia is natural, and that storing assault rifles and life saving in a car is good sense. Whoever that guy is, he sounds like an oblivious jackass.
TheGodKiller
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Whoever that guy is, he sounds like an oblivious jackass.
Jackass Big-C it is, then.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Jackass Big-C it is, then.
Colossus Big-Jackass.
Badabing
Originally posted by SamZED
Remember that song? Well are you? I like every race...except those damn Ruskies! sneer
I think everybody has issues with other races. I'm Italian, so I was shocked when I'd go over to a girl's house for dinner and there was 1 meat, 1 veggie and rice or potato. I was like WHERE'S THE REST OF THE FREAKIN' FOOD!?!?!? ranting
When we have company for dinner, or Sunday dinner, or birthdays/holidays/parties, there'd be at least 2-4 meats, 2-3 pastas, 3-4 veggies, 1-2 breads, salad, plus a few desserts.
So I think there's just differences is all. I'm more comfortable going over to a Spanish/Latino house than say someone who's Irish. Just more similarities.
Obviously there's bad blood from historical events. Jews with Muslims, Black Americans with some WASPs, maybe the Irish and English, etc. Plus you have idiots who just hate.
So, hateful racism is stupid...unless it's directed at those vodka drinking Russians!!! ahuh
The MISTER
Originally posted by Jim Colyer
Every human being on this planet is "racist." Only liars pretend not to be. I think you're confusing racism with prejudice. Not everyone believes that a particular race should be eradicated. Racism is pure hate based on race and how do you hate something a "little"? Hate/ Racism is extreme. It's like asking if you've ever annihilated something "slightly".
Omega Vision
Originally posted by The MISTER
I think you're confusing racism with prejudice. Not everyone believes that a particular race should be eradicated. Racism is pure hate based on race and how do you hate something a "little"? Hate/ Racism is extreme. It's like asking if you've ever annihilated something "slightly".
Racism doesn't necessarily entail desiring genocide.
The MISTER
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Racism doesn't necessarily entail desiring genocide. you're right of course, but can't one conclude that anyone who desires genocide is definitely a racist? Racism is an extreme stance.
Omega Vision
Originally posted by The MISTER
you're right of course, but can't one conclude that anyone who desires genocide is definitely a racist? Racism is an extreme stance.
I suppose so, but your position seemed to be that racists had to desire the violent wholesale death of a certain race, which isn't really the case. There are racists who aren't particularly violent and would rather that other races simply leave.
The MISTER
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I suppose so, but your position seemed to be that racists had to desire the violent wholesale death of a certain race, which isn't really the case. There are racists who aren't particularly violent and would rather that other races simply leave. replace "violent wholesale death" with "disappearance " and that would be my position on how a "racist" feels about the race that they despise.
Dolos
I'm the biggest, meanest, craziest racist you'll ever see.
Come at me.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Dolos
I'm the biggest, meanest, craziest racist you'll ever see.
Come in me. Fixed.
And okay
Major_Lexington
What about that I-Robot with Will Smith? That was also racism against robots.
Dolos
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Fixed.
And okay
Bull-queer or full-blown homosexual?
Dolos
mBlJ9N7Ehgk
****in nappa avi over here stalking me.
Robtard
Andy Dufresne was my friend. I never once helped him fight off the gang-rapes though.
Dolos
Okay Morgan Freeman.
Gonna post some Family Guy?
Major_Lexington
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amity75
i'm going to be honest here, I'm a reluctant racist. I abhor racism but do I want a family of Pakistanis living next door to me? No, I don't. Do I shop in stores owned by Pakistanis? No, I don't. Though if I saw someone giving a Pakistani racist abuse I'd be the first to punch f*ck out of that person. weird.
Prezzy Obama
Originally posted by amity75
i'm going to be honest here, I'm a reluctant racist. I abhor racism but do I want a family of Pakistanis living next door to me? No, I don't. Do I shop in stores owned by Pakistanis? No, I don't. Though if I saw someone giving a Pakistani racist abuse I'd be the first to punch f*ck out of that person. weird.
You racist, laser targeting locked on your house, we're gonna drop a 747 on Scotland and blame a Libyan. If that fails, "Drone Strike!"
movie1
I forget which play that's from... a very popular one though. kind of for adults too.
Cyner
Originally posted by amity75
i'm going to be honest here, I'm a reluctant racist. I abhor racism but do I want a family of Pakistanis living next door to me? No, I don't. Do I shop in stores owned by Pakistanis? No, I don't. Though if I saw someone giving a Pakistani racist abuse I'd be the first to punch f*ck out of that person. weird.
This is perfectly normal. You understand that your cultures are different and separate. However you still respect them as human beings. This is really how everyone should be. Racism implies oppression and hatred but just choosing to support, love, and prefer your own people in everything you do is most decidedly NOT racist. No matter what anyone else tells you, not accepting foreign cultures completely doesn't make you racist, it makes you smart. You can respect other races and cultures while still preserving your own heritage, people, genetics, culture, and way of life. People who believe otherwise are traitors to their people and destined to fade away meaninglessly.
Dolos
Originally posted by Cyner
This is perfectly normal. You understand that your cultures are different and separate. However you still respect them as human beings. This is really how everyone should be. Racism implies oppression and hatred but just choosing to support, love, and prefer your own people in everything you do is most decidedly NOT racist.
No, it's called snobby elitism.
See, you just misconstrued multiculturalism with being snobby.
Cyner
Originally posted by Dolos
No, it's called snobby elitism.
everyone should be treated equally under the law. Treating others as you'd like to be treated is also very important. However that doesn't mean you blindly accept everything that comes out of their culture.
Loving your own culture or race is not implicitly hating another. So please don't force cultural destruction on others. It's obviously already destroyed you and I'd rather you not infect anyone else.
Originally posted by Dolos
See, you just misconstrued multiculturalism with being snobby.
Because multiculturalism was SUPPOSED to be about respecting all people but instead it's about FORCING others to accept everything from every other culture. This is the antithesis of survival and leads to the destruction of races, cultures, ethnicities, nationalities, and produces people with no identity and who cling to anything that gives them even a little bit of identity. Whether that's religion, politics, hobbies, gangs, or hateful ideologies.
Dolos
I don't want to argue with you.
But my belief is in willingness to change. To lose, and to gain to again. Without change we are stagnant, and after losing a belief that can limit us we are free from it.
I also cannot look at another person's belief without giving him or her the benefit of the doubt, and looking at it without biasm even if it deviates from everything I've been told.
There are some truths in everything, and truth exists beyond your comfort zone whether you shut it off or not.
Cyner
Originally posted by Dolos
I don't want to argue with you.
But my belief is in willingness to change. To lose, and to gain to again. Without change we are stagnant, and after losing a belief that can limit us we are free from it.
I also cannot look at another person's belief without giving him or her the benefit of the doubt, and looking at it without biasm even if it deviates from everything I've been told.
There are some truths in everything, and truth exists beyond your comfort zone whether you shut it off or not.
I like that you're really open to change and different beliefs, but the difference between us is vast. See I spent half my life in the most diverse city in the entire U.S., a place where multiculturalism isn't just an ideology but a way of life. It wasn't even discussed because it was a fact of life, with nothing that challenged it. In order to come to the beliefs I have now, I had to be open minded more than anyone else. I had to be willing to change what I was raised with for most of my life, to say after intense study that everything I knew for most of my life and what had been drilled into me for my entire public school and college career was not only wrong but directly destructive to all respective entities involved.
I think it's great that you are very open to both open spirituality and scientific objective facts. It's obvious though that you're still naive, and that being an old man as I am, I may have a bit of an edge.
753
do tell by which mecanisms miscigenation "destroys" all those involved. provide examples too.
the fact of the matter is that very few nations on the planet are ethnically uniform and all contemporary ethnicties and nationalities were born from miscigenation, assimilation and synthesis of previous groups. all societies are dynamic, losing and acquiring new traits all the time. this process is an unavoidable fact of life and it will continue throughout history. it happens at a faster pace in so-called immigration melting pots like contemporary Brazil, USA and Canada. especially so, if beyond coexistence of multiple ethnic clusters, ethnic mergere itself is a (valued) cultural trait of the pot.
Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Cyner
People who believe otherwise are traitors to their people and destined to fade away meaninglessly.
Yeah, totally not racist. Its always been the most non-racist people who are up in arms about the race traitors.
753
yeah we should hang those ****ers and hail anders breivik as a heroe in the fight against cultural marxist traitors. he really is an example for people everywhere, not just white europeans. everyone can benefit from xenophobia, I mean from defending their equally legitimate cultures by expunging race traitors.
Cyner
Sure is cultural marxist elitism in here.
Originally posted by 753
do tell by which mecanisms miscigenation "destroys" all those involved. provide examples too.
the fact of the matter is that very few nations on the planet are ethnically uniform and all contemporary ethnicties and nationalities were born from miscigenation, assimilation and synthesis of previous groups. all societies are dynamic, losing and acquiring new traits all the time. this process is an unavoidable fact of life and it will continue throughout history. it happens at a faster pace in so-called immigration melting pots like contemporary Brazil, USA and Canada. especially so, if beyond coexistence of multiple ethnic clusters, ethnic mergere itself is a (valued) cultural trait of the pot.
Miscigenation destroys peoples and communities by producing people who lack true identity, not totally accepted by either community that they belong to genetically. It creates mostly less healthy people due to outbreeding depressing. If practiced in a widespread manner ends the existence and therefore the heritage of certain peoples and cultures. Not everyone want to see their culture die out.
The melting pots have been nice social experiments and all. However it's clear that the melting pot is a failed idea. So many diverse cultures living within very close bounds creates distrust and strife among communities that are competing for work and resources in a very small area. The tension between competing cultures has lead to a lot of violence that seems to only be curbed by running a city like a police state. It also, especially in Brazil, creates a caste system in which those who are of mixed race are at the bottom and members of the groups who are non-mixed rank higher up.
Recently you even have groups of hispanics in California who have been ethnically cleansing their neighborhoods of blacks through both intimidation and mass murder. Many many gangs right now are racially based, and they end up at war with the other race based gangs.
This next section is directed both at 753 and Symmetric Chaos.
I'm going to assume that you're both white, well educated, and well off(financially). I say that because your position denotes someone who thinks like an individual rather than someone who thinks like a part of a group. You should understand that most people don't think like this and if you do it's because you're not in a struggle for survival and most likely never have been. So you falsely believe that everyone thinks, or would benefit from thinking, like you do. Instead they think about what is best for their group, they understand when their group prospers or fails, they care about their group. I'm sure you've never thought even once what would benefit your fellow whites.
I however being hispanic think a lot about the situation of hispanics here in the U.S., and in some ways it needs a lot of improvement, in other ways it's great.
I spend a good bit of time volunteering at a center for "underprivileged youth" which just means they are poor. Anyway most of the kids there are black and hispanic because we are in a city. Of course my main focus is to help out hispanic kids but it doesn't hurt to help others. It's this sort of community outreach that helps people. When members of their own group are there to support and mentor them. No black kid wants to see "whitey" come there to try to help out when that person won't even understand them. Neither do hispanic kids come to depend on a black mentor. They will look for someone who they can relate to, who knows their culture to help them.
TL : DR
Cultural marxist whites have no idea what real life is like. They've never lived in the projects, and neither have they been white living in a mostly black or hispanic area. You can comment from your comfortable middle class lifestyle about some utopian ideals that will never exist. What's sickening is when someone has no concern for the survival of their group, no matter what race a person is, that person and that group deserve self determination.
Dolos
Originally posted by Cyner
Sure is cultural marxist elitism in here.
Miscigenation destroys peoples and communities by producing people who lack true identity, not totally accepted by either community that they belong to genetically. It creates mostly less healthy people due to outbreeding depressing. If practiced in a widespread manner ends the existence and therefore the heritage of certain peoples and cultures. Not everyone want to see their culture die out.
The melting pots have been nice social experiments and all. However it's clear that the melting pot is a failed idea. So many diverse cultures living within very close bounds creates distrust and strife among communities that are competing for work and resources in a very small area. The tension between competing cultures has lead to a lot of violence that seems to only be curbed by running a city like a police state. It also, especially in Brazil, creates a caste system in which those who are of mixed race are at the bottom and members of the groups who are non-mixed rank higher up.
Recently you even have groups of hispanics in California who have been ethnically cleansing their neighborhoods of blacks through both intimidation and mass murder. Many many gangs right now are racially based, and they end up at war with the other race based gangs.
This next section is directed both at 753 and Symmetric Chaos.
I'm going to assume that you're both white, well educated, and well off(financially). I say that because your position denotes someone who thinks like an individual rather than someone who thinks like a part of a group. You should understand that most people don't think like this and if you do it's because you're not in a struggle for survival and most likely never have been. So you falsely believe that everyone thinks, or would benefit from thinking, like you do. Instead they think about what is best for their group, they understand when their group prospers or fails, they care about their group. I'm sure you've never thought even once what would benefit your fellow whites.
I however being hispanic think a lot about the situation of hispanics here in the U.S., and in some ways it needs a lot of improvement, in other ways it's great.
I spend a good bit of time volunteering at a center for "underprivileged youth" which just means they are poor. Anyway most of the kids there are black and hispanic because we are in a city. Of course my main focus is to help out hispanic kids but it doesn't hurt to help others. It's this sort of community outreach that helps people. When members of their own group are there to support and mentor them. No black kid wants to see "whitey" come there to try to help out when that person won't even understand them. Neither do hispanic kids come to depend on a black mentor. They will look for someone who they can relate to, who knows their culture to help them.
TL : DR
Cultural marxist whites have no idea what real life is like. They've never lived in the projects, and neither have they been white living in a mostly black or hispanic area. You can comment from your comfortable middle class lifestyle about some utopian ideals that will never exist. What's sickening is when someone has no concern for the survival of their group, no matter what race a person is, that person and that group deserve self determination.
Mathematically the Singularity could remove all human suffering throughout the globe. Even in third-world countries. In fact that is the very definition of a Type I Civilization on the Kardashev Scale, that and having access to 100% of the earth's energy and environmental processes even the damned weather. In that case not multiculturalism, but universal-culturalism will be established, we'll all be one high class society evolving into the future, literally. Death, disease, sickness, all cured by technology's ability to transform, upgrade us. Whatever you want to call it, it's pretty gawdy, ominous, and tearing at the soul to most people, the notion would be that is. Not to mention unbelievable, technological advancement is radically transforming however. So many people are unaware of that, but eventually it will be impossible for us to be unaware, we won't understand the world because of technology, and there's a good chance it could scare the majority of people into a Jihaad to end Jihaads, the final holy war, some nuclear armageddon. Who knows.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Dolos
Mathematically the Singularity could remove all human s Oh f*ck.
Dolos
BACK ON TOPIC:
You're not talking about a third-world country or the damned dark ages, you're talking about a group of misguided, family torn, trapped, adolescents, young men, and gangsters, trapped by their past or lifestyle, who's families fell through the cracks of the Urban world without any proper guidance. Most of them, if they're not serious robbers or killers, and even then there are correctional paths to be taken, any of them can achieve middle class status...however most don't for obvious reasons, outsiders, us middle-class people, just aren't who they are and who they have lived their lives with, who they've been through hell with. It's a kind of snobby I can completely understand on an emotional level, but also, a new life, a new family, that is something that I believe is the right reason to come out of there. You can do anything you set your mind to, this isn't the dark ages, we're not nearly as trapped by oppression....especially not in America, history and adjustments to our policies have seen to that....but a lot of other countries haven't yet.
I know and have worked with people from the ghetto. I even worked in a ghetto, and even droped someone off in the ghetto to save him a bus trip. That's why all the sudden I know where you're coming from with this.
Dolos
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Oh f*ck.
Don't judge me. Wait 40 to 50 years and I may not be perceived as such a wack job for talking like that.
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Originally posted by Dolos
Don't judge me. Wait 40 to 50 years and I may not be perceived as such a wack job for talking like that.
Just because technology advances exponentially doesn't mean people do. It's a nice fantasy but it's unrealistic and we'll have probably boinked the world irrepairably before such a thing is even feasible. Humans are dickbags, nicer toasters won't make us stop being dickbags.
On topic:
I'm as racist as the next guy who doesn't consciously hold any prejudices. Not very, but no one's perfect. I can be racially insensitive with my humour, but what I consider to be actual racism is ignorance, prejudice, or hatred. I avoid those things.
Dolos
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Just because technology advances exponentially doesn't mean people do. It's a nice fantasy but it's unrealistic and we'll have probably boinked the world irrepairably before such a thing is even feasible. Humans are dickbags, nicer toasters won't make us stop being dickbags.
It's called oblivion or paradise. Some say we'll opt for oblivion through stagnation, a degrading environment, and then the resulting economic turmoil from overpopulation and then finally war as in oblivion, or some natural disaster we are no longer equipped for. Scientists theorize this is likely the reality for most Alien life in the cosmos, why would we be any different? I think it's more likely that the conversion to beings who'd not be dick bags by genetic disposition, or perhaps directly through genetic alteration in future generations will activate a primal need to rebel to said conversion for most of the population, a jihaad of ignorance, a holy war to end holy wars.
The less likely option is that we'll accept a paradise.
Cyner
Dolos!
The problem is that technology and a globalized world has emerged at a ridiculous pace. Human evolution cannot be expected to keep up with that. What's 150 years of innovation in the face of millions of years of evolution? Humans are still very naturally tribal and to change that may take a very very long time. Even in a few thousand years, if humans are evolving naturally there will still be a tribal mindsets are the dominant trait. Being tribalistic is how the human race has survived to this point. To change that will take a heck of a lot.
This is one reason I prefer Battletech lore to other science fiction settings. It's a very realistic look at humanity venturing out into the galaxy and technology in the future.
The MISTER
Originally posted by Cyner
Dolos!
The problem is that technology and a globalized world has emerged at a ridiculous pace. Human evolution cannot be expected to keep up with that. What's 150 years of innovation in the face of millions of years of evolution? Humans are still very naturally tribal and to change that may take a very very long time. Even in a few thousand years, if humans are evolving naturally there will still be a tribal mindsets are the dominant trait. Being tribalistic is how the human race has survived to this point. To change that will take a heck of a lot.
This is one reason I prefer Battletech lore to other science fiction settings. It's a very realistic look at humanity venturing out into the galaxy and technology in the future.
Tribalism is for dumb animals, humans can't rely on that to excuse to be even a little racist. Humans are individual thinkers and the human brain is actually pretty miraculous when you consider potential memory capacity and ability to select/change habits and personality traits.
All of our known human ancestors had access to this miracle mind and some evidence is that throughout time intellectuals were always certain of our scientific origin and were creative and grandiose in their theoretical assessment. Their words were considered facts one day and proven wrong the next but that creativity still tells us our past and future.
Science and religion aside it's a humans responsibilty to understand the huge differences between racism and prejudice, so they can reject one and utilize the other positively. Thinking that you'll like someone before you meet them can be called prejudiced. Racism is hatred of race pure and simple, it's all or nothin! To even be considered a racist in any way you'd have to COMMIT an ACT of racism. Telling someone to their face that you're a racist towards their race counts but I'd be willing to bet most people who consider themselves "a little" racist have never even done anything that bad.
More people today are sexist than racist, another extreme stance that is less discussed because sex itself thrives on taboo acts.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by The MISTER
Tribalism is for dumb animals Seth Godin disagrees.
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StyleTime
Originally posted by Cyner
Sure is cultural marxist elitism in here.
Miscigenation destroys peoples and communities
In the immediate sense, specific communities need specific solutions. I'd agree there.
Unfortunately, I think you understate the effects of systemic racism on modern society. Miscegenation isn't the problem. The problem is that, historically, one group said "We are superior to you" and behaved accordingly.
Cyner
Originally posted by StyleTime
In the immediate sense, specific communities need specific solutions. I'd agree there.
Unfortunately, I think you understate the effects of systemic racism on modern society. Miscegenation isn't the problem. The problem is that, historically, one group said "We are superior to you" and behaved accordingly.
No I definitely understand the need for very specific answers to very specific problems.
These communities should be free from both good and bad intentions of outside communities. That's the point of self determination, if that community won't work within itself to right the problems it has, there is nothing any outside community, regardless of good intentions can do to help.
I think you overstate the amount of actual racism that goes on in modern society. There will always be some prejudice but the sort of oppression that existed years ago, just doesn't exist in western civilization anymore. Have I been pulled over by police for being hispanic in a white area? Definitely. Have I been pulled over by police for being hispanic in a black area? Absolutely. However no one is "keeping me down" and to think otherwise is to not be aware of current US culture.
Dolos
I know black people fight to the burger.
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Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Dolos
I know black people fight to the chicken burger. Racist.
Raisen
Originally posted by Cyner
No I definitely understand the need for very specific answers to very specific problems.
These communities should be free from both good and bad intentions of outside communities. That's the point of self determination, if that community won't work within itself to right the problems it has, there is nothing any outside community, regardless of good intentions can do to help.
I think you overstate the amount of actual racism that goes on in modern society. There will always be some prejudice but the sort of oppression that existed years ago, just doesn't exist in western civilization anymore. Have I been pulled over by police for being hispanic in a white area? Definitely. Have I been pulled over by police for being hispanic in a black area? Absolutely. However no one is "keeping me down" and to think otherwise is to not be aware of current US culture.
You're speaking real talk Cyner. I'm also willing to bet that your assessment of the people questioning you is 100% on. It's always the same types; they have no damn clue. This politically correct atmosphere that we live in is looney tunes. Speaking the truth, a truth that almost everyone knows, is unacceptable by these standards and people are too scared, too unsure, and too confused to agree with it.
Cyner
Originally posted by Raisen
You're speaking real talk Cyner. I'm also willing to bet that your assessment of the people questioning you is 100% on. It's always the same types; they have no damn clue. This politically correct atmosphere that we live in is looney tunes. Speaking the truth, a truth that almost everyone knows, is unacceptable by these standards and people are too scared, too unsure, and too confused to agree with it.
It's fine that people have a different opinion and I hope I'm not coming off as an *******. I feel though that people should see it from my perspective, someone who's lived it and been there.
Have you ever had a boss who didn't know what your job was like and it showed? That boss, whether it was intentional or not, was frequently making your job harder and making you have to work less efficiently just because he or she had no idea what your work was like. That's how I feel about people and politicians who are making policy decisions or giving "help" that is a direct hindrance to actually making a permanent change for those who need it. It comes from good intentions mixed with misinformation.
753
Originally posted by Cyner
Sure is cultural marxist elitism in here.
ohrly? define that expression
miscigentaion does not deny anyone its identity. individuals identify and feel a sense of pertinence to several groupings and communities all the time. you probably view yourself as a hispanic and an american without any incompatible conflict between those two identities. the same goes for pertinence to class, religious group, sex, ethnicity and nationality.
lol at a sense of genetic identity. indentification with culture (language, religion, customs), political group and nationality is often a much more prevalent determinant of group identity than phenotypical similarity to a population's average phenotype.
let's examine your ethnicity: hispanic. the product of miscigenation between spaniards and amerindians. the language that identifies your cultural background is the language of the colonizer. are you devoid of identity, halfbreed? obvisouly not. miscigenation created the group you would one day identify with. all group identity is dynamic because all social groups are dynamic, they splinter and merge all the time. it is unavoidable. this is not tantamount to subjugation of one group by another. all your desire for purity leads to is intergroup violence.
the widespread destruction of amerindian culture did not result from miscigenation either as your line of argumentation would imply, but from violent subjugation, which is quite the opposite of multicultural projects.
LMAO at you claiming outbreeding produces less healthy offspring among humans. this is just sad. find me published studies on exogamic depression on the populational scale among humans. records on endogamic depression abound on the other hand. btw how is your health as a product of miscigenation?
distrust and stryfe among communities? for every example you quote, I can show another of coexistence. the fact that intergroup conflict exists does not invalidate the existence of multiethnic states.
although social inequality is severe (albeit diminishing) in Brazil, it cannot, nor could it since slavery, be described as a caste system. people of mixed race arent at the bottom either. you see, while whites (as understood in brazil) concentrate more economic power than blacks and amerindians, brazilian whites carry on average 33% alleles of indigenous and 27% alleles of african origin on the maternal bloodline. brazilian blacks carry 50% european alleles on the paternal lineage on average. moreover, signficant large portions of the population identified as white wouldnt be considered white in the usa, because of the one drop rule. during the times of slaverey the children of europeans and africans were free and considered "white" for political and social status purposes. this alones debunks your bullshit.
the reason for skin color correlation with wealth today is the historical perpetuation of wealth and power inequality between the original stock populations: blacks were slaves, duh. misgenation is not a casue of social stratification in Brazil. at all.
and the root cause is multiculturalism, not xenophobia. good to know.
you are somewhat right. I'm mixed as mutt, my skincolor is white. I'm well educated and was born in the middle class, everyone in my family works for a living and so do I. you are right on the spot that I dont give flying **** about my fellow whites, though. my sense of identity isn't centered around race. at all. of course neither are most people's, in my country. I know race is a much bigger deal in the usa though.
thats all nice and noble. do you think interethnic cooperation is bound to failure then? do black youths reject your help?
TL : DR
you and most xenophobes project your experiences onto the worldat large. you don't stand for self-determination in the face of oppression, you stand for segregation along race lines and abhor admixture of any kind. all the more ironic given your "race" is mixed as ****.
no matter how much you claim you're all for every race doing their thing, the racial purity ideals you spouse are the very root of racial clensing.
Omega Vision
Almost none of the prolific racists on KMC have admitted to being racist. It's always someone else's fault if their views are interpreted as such, or the people they hate "deserve" it, as was Majid's case.
jinXed by JaNx
i aint racist, i hate everyone equally.
753
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Almost none of the prolific racists on KMC have admitted to being racist. It's always someone else's fault if their views are interpreted as such, or the people they hate "deserve" it, as was Majid's case. its not just in kmc either. white nationalist folk love to claim they aint racist and anti-racism means anti-white.
Cyner
Wikipedia's definition:
Cultural Marxism refers to a category within cultural studies, popular mainly in the 1960s. Its purpose is to apply analytical techniques developed by Karl Marx (see dialectic materialism) to discover power structures within cultural artefacts like family composition, gender, race, or cultural identity within Western society.
What's actually going on:
Cultural Marxism is the application of marxist ideology to cultural and social aspects of a society.
So instead of having just class warfare, you create warfare for every difference imaginable. Such as gender, race, class, ethnicity, etc.
Yes people can consider themselves part of several groups at once. However the first identity anyone has is that of their parents and themselves. What do I look like? Does it match my parents? Does it match my community? This is what people build their identity on. First and foremost people will identify themselves on race and culture and the nation they are citizens of(along with nearly every other identity) is secondary.
I never said anything about a "sense of genetic identity". The identity I was referring to was the sense of belonging to a community. It's pretty easy to determine a persons genetics by looks alone and someone who's "mixed" will be easily identifiable in communities. Thus this person can easily be singled out, and it happens frequently.
Most people have nowadays have no clue about who their ancestors were, who they themselves are, what their culture represents, or the history of their race or culture. This creates people who latch onto anything that gives them an identity or sense of self. Whether that's a religion, ideology, state/national identity, or any other artificial identity. People will then latch onto this idea or subculture and because that ideology is what they base themselves on, they won't expand their mind to change or improve ideas they already hold. Any challenge to their current ideas is a personal attack on them, any person holding the opposing view is demonized. This is precisely why much religious and political strife exists right now, even among those who are supposed to share a national identity. People can no longer even hold a decent conversation without devolving into personal attacks.
Miscegenation is why the Taino culture no longer exists, and the reason why we'll never meet a true Taino. It wasn't violence that eventually destroyed them but mixing between the Spaniards and Africans that came to their islands. It would be like if the native americans were not only killed but also purposely bred out of existence.
Culture doesn't change because of violence from another group(unless the people of said culture are completely killed), I would argue that violence against that group would only would only reinforce that culture. It's the blending of cultures that often replaces the one with the smaller population with the one with the larger population.
Now of course I identify with the product of miscegenation that is my current race and culture. However between the Taino, Spaniards, and Africans, there have been over 500 years of that mix and it's created a race all it's own. The problem now of course is that there are a grand total of about 8 million of us in the entire world. Don't we deserve the right to exist as a people and culture? A right to not blend this unique mix of race and culture out of existence? To not drown out the last of the bloodline of the Tainos?
Outbreeding Depression has been proven to exist in both plants and animals. What makes humans so special that we can avoid something that exists in every other living thing? I doubt evolution has been so nice to us. If you're really interested in the subject, you know where google is. A rudimentary search provided plenty of info for myself and I'm sure it can for you also. I doubt your opinion would be changed by anything I post, confide in yourself if you really care about the truth.
Yes, usually the most violent places are also the most ethnically diverse. Even among ethnicities that don't differ an enormous amount. Places like Colombia, Brazil, Iraq, Chicago, and the District of Colombia have a very diverse and also very violent population. New York has been able to crack down on violence by operating like a police state, which may or may not be good, depending on your outlook. The fact that multiethnic states exist does not invalidate the existence of inter-ethnic strife being a very large contributor to violence, especially within those states.
The problem as I stated before is that in the U.S.A., multiculturalism is forced.
Dictionary definitions of xenophobia include: deep-rooted, irrational hatred towards foreigners (Oxford English Dictionary; OED), unreasonable fear or hatred of the unfamiliar.(Webster's)
Somehow I doubt mexicans in california have an irrational fear of their neighbors. Maybe it's just two ethnic groups that just don't get along very well and like most groups prefer to live with those of the same ethnicity and culture. I would certainly say they are going about that the wrong way though.
Here it is. You are a mixed white, with no connection to your ancestors, culture, or ethnicity. I may be wrong but I'm going to guess that your identity is found in more artificial constructs or ideologies. Things like the state or an ideology can change at any time, and if it's ideas that define you, those should be evolving and changing all the time.
Cyner
I don't think that inter-ethnic cooperation is bound to failure. People of different backgrounds can work together for a common good. The problem comes when they are expected to relinquish their ethnicity, culture, heritage, ancestry, or identity for the sake of someone else's or the sake of some supposedly utopian society.
Black youths certainly don't reject my help when it comes to the food pantry or tutoring. However they prefer another black person when it comes to mentoring. Otherwise, they may not reject you outright but mentally they will close themselves off.
No I don't project it onto the world at large. Originally I did, but as time went on, I instead observed the world and changed my ideas and myself based on the objective realities I saw there.
I'm not a "xenophobe", I don't fear or hate people from outside my culture or race. I just prefer my own. I can't understand why that's a crime in the western world nowadays. Yes I like my culture and people the best, that doesn't mean I think your people are horrible, it just means I enjoy my own the most. I'd rather not see it disappear or be destroyed.
I'm not some La Raza, Black Panther, Klu Klux Klan sort of psychopath. However the reality is that Outbreeding depression really does exist and for the majority of people it's going to be a bad deal. Some races are much closer to each other than others and for them it wouldn't be bad to mix. For others they are too inbred and getting some diversity in there would result in Hybrid Vigor and enhance them. By not telling people that Outbreeding depression is a serious reality and a fact of life you are doing a disservice to those it would help. Seriously, don't be as bad as some of the people I have to deal with where you're either for us or against us, when the reality is much more complex.
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You really are pretentious.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Almost none of the prolific racists on KMC have admitted to being racist. It's always someone else's fault if their views are interpreted as such, or the people they hate "deserve" it, as was Majid's case.
There was that one guy, i forget his name now. He was always talking about jews and stuff.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
i aint racist, i hate everyone equally.
trufax rite hurr
Originally posted by 753
its not just in kmc either. white nationalist folk love to claim they aint racist and anti-racism means anti-white.
No one likes whites anyway.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Cyner
No one likes whites anyway. It's all about the mauves, baby.
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Racism is horrible
Cyner
This guy is a horrible racist/bigot/xenophobe:
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Lord Lucien
F*ck him, what does he have against green eyes?
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