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Team 2 no doubt about it.

happy new year friend

team 2 takes it

Team Cosmic Beings, definately.

yup

Team 2.

hey zop

how powerful would u put surtur w/twilight

hey guy, I have no clue really (because Marvel makes ZERO sense nowadays).

But did you see that recent "Everything Burns" story arc in Journey into Mystery? Surtur was about to destroy the universe, then multiverse till Loki/Thor/Odin stopped him.

Ridiculous but it is what it is.

agreed

said it before marvel and dc piss me off so much

i'd put surtur>odin but still less than a celestial or galactus

Originally posted by guy222
agreed

said it before marvel and dc piss me off so much

i'd put surtur>odin but still less than a celestial or galactus
Yup. I would too. Surtur + Twilight > Odin < Galactus or a Celestial. But Marvel being Marvel........

team 2 easily

Marvels PL's don't make sense at all. Wouldn't Surtur destroying the universe effectively destroy Eternity? Nowadays Eternity seems to be the weakest abstract.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Marvels PL's don't make sense at all. Wouldn't Surtur destroying the universe effectively destroy Eternity? Nowadays Eternity seems to be the weakest abstract. No it would kill off everything in the universe and then something new would be born in its place, it was part of the ragnarok cycle and it was not Surtur power alone that was doing it it was ampped at the time but Loki stopped that

How's this much different than the other thread?

Surtur and Dormammu get stomped again.

They lose pretty hard now that Arishem is out there.

Galastial

Originally posted by The Merchant
Marvels PL's don't make sense at all. Wouldn't Surtur destroying the universe effectively destroy Eternity? Nowadays Eternity seems to be the weakest abstract. The only time it seems Eternity is in danger, is when he's actually shown in danger.

Because a universe seems to be thought of as a lot less when Eternity isn't involved.

I'd personally put beating Eternity above destroying a universe when he isn't doing shit, but I digress.

Hmm, makes sense. Eternity is the concept of the universe, so he would still be around even if you somehow destroy it, I think.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Hmm, makes sense. Eternity is the concept of the universe, so he would still be around even if you somehow destroy it, I think. uh dunno

No one ever thinks to talk about it after, or remember he exists.

Team 2 easily.

team 2 quite powerful