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Gards with Time Gem
1. Use full powers and abilities ,No BFR No time stop
2. The above with BFR and Time stop/manipulation allowed.

Gards without Time Gem
1. Use full powers and abilities ,No BFR No time stop
2. The above with BFR and Time stop/manipulation allowed.

Wjo wins in each of the above?

Gardener? Do you mean Guy Gardner ?

Do you mean the villian in the Avenger's new comics?

Elder of the Universe

So Ex Nihilo? That gold guy with no feats?

Yeah the elder of the universe .

No pretty sure he means elder gardener.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
That gold guy with no feats?
So Odin vs Time Gem?

I'd give it to Odin based solely on the quickdraw

Odin ftw.

The Gardener never struck me as being very powerful, even for an Elder of the Universe. Isn't he a pacifist too?

Odin is probably more powerful Gardener is over 5 billion years old and unless Death kills him he is immortal. Gardener has more experience and is immortal plus he does have. Wikipedia source Power Primordial, remnants of the primordial energies of the Big Bang that still permeate the universe. The Power Primordial can be used to produce a wide range of effects, including augmentation of physical attributes (strength, durability, speed), molecular restructuring, creation of force fields, teleportation

In this pic he gets dogpiled by all in the picture and send them flying with the Power Primordial

Originally posted by golem370
Odin is probably more powerful Gardener is over 5 billion years old and unless Death kills him he is immortal. Gardener has more experience and is immortal plus he does have. Wikipedia source Power Primordial, remnants of the primordial energies of the Big Bang that still permeate the universe. The Power Primordial can be used to produce a wide range of effects, including augmentation of physical attributes (strength, durability, speed), molecular restructuring, creation of force fields, teleportation

Doesn't mean much without the feats to back up the Gardener.

Originally posted by golem370
In this pic he gets dogpiled by all in the picture and send them flying with the Power Primordial

They all jobbed to the Champion there.

snicker

No Champion became the jobber Champion should have been left like that imo.

chimp

Nope. Champion has that one good showing amidst a career of humilating failures. Therefore, they all jobbed to Champion.

He is a Immortal who is out for fighting profection so I think he has been fighting billions of years he should be a extremely better fighter then any of them thus that first apperance should be more like how the Champion should be then the jobber versions after.

Originally posted by golem370
He is a Immortal who is out for fighting profection so I think he has been fighting billions of years he should be a extremely better fighter then any of them thus that first apperance should be more like how the Champion should be then the jobber versions after.

I agree, but he's never really been portrayed that way since his first appearance.

Anyhow, the Gardener hardly seems like much of a fighter. Being immortal just means he'll live to regret the severe ass-kicking from Odin.