Surfer vs Colossus

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carver9
Fist fight. No bfr.

DTM
If this is non Juggernaut Colossus, Surfer beats him.

ozz81
surfer.

Damborgson
Originally posted by ozz81
surfer.

thumb up

StiltmanFTW
Piotr gets his face bashed in.

cdtm
Surfer, almost spite.

abhilegend
Surfer beats the shit out of the comie.

Supra
SS ftw

h1a8
Surfer as
cosmic silver >> organic steel

753
he probably meant colossonaut, who would win imo

Bouboumaster
If it's not Colossus/Juggernaut, than it's a massacre. Silver Surfer kills him, lol

StiltmanFTW
Or Wolverine comes out of nowhere and effortlessly stabs them both.

-Pr-
...The **** is this?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by -Pr-
...The **** is this?

Typical carver thread. Don't act surprised, you know him better than anyone stick out tongue

-Pr-
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Typical carver thread. Don't act surprised, you know him better than anyone stick out tongue

Don't insult me.

753
carv, why dont you clarify what version of colossus you meant so we can properly judge how stupid this is or isnt

carver9
Colossonaut.

753
Originally posted by carver9
Colossonaut. He'd win. the infinite damage soak/stamina combo is too much for SS to handle without exotic powers, even considering his strengh amp.

juggerman
Originally posted by 753
carv, why dont you clarify what version of colossus you meant so we can properly judge how stupid this is or isnt

Either way it's spite. Reg Colossus is no match and Colossonaut is too much

DickBlazer
Pure slug fest full power gem colossus tosses SS around easily

CosmicComet
Surfer.

Colossnaut is weak as phuck.

753
Originally posted by juggerman
Either way it's spite. Reg Colossus is no match and Colossonaut is too much well, he can amp his strengh, but that's true, eventually colossugs will drop him

abhilegend
Originally posted by 753
well, he can amp his strengh, but that's true, eventually colossugs will drop him
I've never seen him amp his strength beyond thing's strength on his own. He had to absorb a lot of energy from sun to amp himself to the point he was about to explode and went mad to destroy a moon and even then he had to release every bit of his energy alongside the impact.

carver9
Stop hating on Surfer.

CosmicComet
amping as a term doesn't really make sense to me.

if you can only amp your strength so much, its not really amping, its more like simply using more of your power.

its like calling kaioken or ssj amping.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Stop hating on Surfer.
laughing out loud

Dampyre
Originally posted by carver9
Stop hating on Surfer.

What do you expect from a Superman fan?

abhilegend
Originally posted by Dampyre
What do you expect from a Superman fan?
Its one thing to hate, its one thing to actually know about the character and debate with the actual feats and not the imaginary CBR level surfer. I know more about surfer than most surfer marvel fanboys do. Why don't give an instance where surfer amped his strength beyond thing's if you think I'm hating on surfer?

Nibedicus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its one thing to hate, its one thing to actually know about the character and debate with the actual feats and not the imaginary CBR level surfer. I know more about surfer than most surfer marvel fanboys do. Why don't give an instance where surfer amped his strength beyond thing's if you think I'm hating on surfer?

You're prolly one of the more knowledgeable posters (top 5-10 IMO, top 1-3 w/ regards to Superman) in here, but you gotta admit that you don't like Surfer much. stick out tongue

Dampyre
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its one thing to hate, its one thing to actually know about the character and debate with the actual feats and not the imaginary CBR level surfer. I know more about surfer than most surfer marvel fanboys do. Why don't give an instance where surfer amped his strength beyond thing's if you think I'm hating on surfer?

Are you saying that the Surfer is weaker than Ben Grimm? laughing out loud

Dampyre
Originally posted by Nibedicus
You're prolly one of the more knowledgeable posters (top 5-10 IMO, top 1-3 w/ regards to Superman) in here, but you gotta admit that you don't like Surfer much. stick out tongue

It's very obvious with his comments. I don't like Superman or most of his fans but I still give credit where it's due.

-Pr-
Guys, stop making things personal.

Rage.Of.Olympus
If you disagree with Abhil, post some counter feats to prove him wrong, calling him names doesn't support your side any.

There's an excellent Surfer respect thread, he has a feat or two that are closer to Thor/Superman than Thing/Colossus most of the time.

Dampyre
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you disagree with Abhil, post some counter feats to prove him wrong, calling him names doesn't support your side any.



I'm sorry but where did I call him any names? I won't be posting any scans but it seems rather obvious that the Surfer is stronger than the Thing. If anyone needs proof they can refer to the respect thread. There are several examples there.

ColossusGrundy
H2H Colossusnaut beats his ass...

all powers on, spite in favor of Surfer

h1a8
I think everyone agrees regular Colossus loses.
End of thread

StiltmanFTW
thumb up

-Pr-
Originally posted by h1a8
I think everyone agrees regular Colossus loses.
End of thread

If it was regular colossus, maybe.

leonidas
Originally posted by cdtm
Surfer, almost spite.

cept it's not almost spite. it IS spite. doesn`t anyone recall what he did to hulk and his buddies in wwh....

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by -Pr-
If it was regular colossus, maybe.

He changed it too late...

-Pr-
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He changed it too late...

I don't think that's up to you. sneer

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by abhilegend
I've never seen him amp his strength beyond thing's strength on his own. He had to absorb a lot of energy from sun to amp himself to the point he was about to explode and went mad to destroy a moon and even then he had to release every bit of his energy alongside the impact. You crazy butthead.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=11260224

Surfer only really ever was shown to have really low strength back in his early appearances. Since then it's been pretty consistent.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8830/silversurferthorannual1lh3.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7880/silversurferthorannual1rt8.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP174-05.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP174-06.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferoutpowersmephistoinhisowndime.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsSilverSurfer11MightyThor3.jpg

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Defenders_003_020.jpg

And this one:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/232/dptu883oroboroscps025.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/dptu883oroboroscps029.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/808/dptu883oroboroscps031.jpg/

shifty

Dampyre
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You crazy butthead.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=11260224

Surfer only really ever was shown to have really low strength back in his early appearances. Since then it's been pretty consistent.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8830/silversurferthorannual1lh3.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7880/silversurferthorannual1rt8.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP174-05.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP174-06.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferoutpowersmephistoinhisowndime.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsSilverSurfer11MightyThor3.jpg

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Defenders_003_020.jpg

And this one:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/232/dptu883oroboroscps025.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/dptu883oroboroscps029.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/808/dptu883oroboroscps031.jpg/

shifty

What's funny is that even with the Thing example the Surfer was shown to clearly overpower Grimm. So, he didn't amp to "Thing-level", he went beyond it.

The Sorrow
Lol @ Surfer having Thing level strength. Still I do think Colossus as Juggy would take him h2h as underrated as Surfer is there.

vince_slice
In that old fight fight, when Surfer went "atomic strength" I'm pretty sure he amped far beyond Thing's strength.

Before the atomic amp, Surfer was knocked around by Thing. After Surfer amped himself, he was unphased by Thing's punch, and the Thing looked like he almost injured his hand punching Surfer. Thing shat his pants lol.

http://i50.tinypic.com/8x7qy0.jpg

JayDaDon
Surfer strength is way past normal colossus. Lets put colossus in surfer's position in planet hulk. He would get raped by that team.

-Pr-
Surfer is far stronger than Thing. People need to stop spreading lies.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Surfer recently held his own against Thor in hand to hand. Thing or Colossus would literally have their arms ripped off if they tried to stop a swing from Fraction's Thor, and the follow up head butt would incinerate their corpses.

Fraction's Surfer also tossed a fairly large space ship with such force that it would continue sailing through the Universe for centuries or some such.

Mindset
SS also fought Hulk in Planet Hulk and was givin em the business.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
H2H Colossusnaut beats his ass... http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/charliemurphy.gif

*looks at screen name* okay i get it now

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Surfer recently held his own against Thor in hand to hand. Thing or Colossus would literally have their arms ripped off if they tried to stop a swing from Fraction's Thor, and the follow up head butt would incinerate their corpses.

Fraction's Surfer also tossed a fairly large space ship with such force that it would continue sailing through the Universe for centuries or some such. lol @ shoehorning thor in there biscuits

tkitna
I always thought it was pretty impressive when he grabbed the Rhino by the horn during a full stampede. SS is pretty strong physically when he wants to be.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Dampyre
Are you saying that the Surfer is weaker than Ben Grimm? laughing out loud
Most of the time against Ben, he is. Would you like me to post a scan where surfer and human torch had to stop thing from attacking merged hulk and he just shrugged them off and got out of their hold? He is like namor, he would look like a peer/a step down against Thor/Herc and a peer against Thing. I'm guessing you are mistaking his feats of durability as feats of strength.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You crazy butthead.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=11260224

Surfer only really ever was shown to have really low strength back in his early appearances. Since then it's been pretty consistent.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8830/silversurferthorannual1lh3.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7880/silversurferthorannual1rt8.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP174-05.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/MCP174-06.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/Surferoutpowersmephistoinhisowndime.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsSilverSurfer11MightyThor3.jpg

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Strangerinthenight/Defenders_003_020.jpg

And this one:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/232/dptu883oroboroscps025.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/dptu883oroboroscps029.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/808/dptu883oroboroscps031.jpg/

shifty
I wasn't saying he doesn't have strength above thing level, I said he hasn't amped his natural strength beyond Thing level. I think he's around namor/wonder man level in strength nowadays where he can slug it out with Thor and the likes pretty competitively in h2h but would get outpowered eventually. Mind you, Thing has overpowered surfer trying to restrain him from the same time-period where the most of your scans come from. Its not as cut and dry as you think it is. But obviously respect threads are always true, I tell you.Originally posted by vince_slice
In that old fight fight, when Surfer went "atomic strength" I'm pretty sure he amped far beyond Thing's strength.

Before the atomic amp, Surfer was knocked around by Thing. After Surfer amped himself, he was unphased by Thing's punch, and the Thing looked like he almost injured his hand punching Surfer. Thing shat his pants lol.

http://i50.tinypic.com/8x7qy0.jpg
Surfer's durability was always more impressive than his strength. Thing doesn't harming surfer is a norm for his durability even back in the day. That doesn't denotes he increased his strength beyond Thing's when he says "Your strength is beyond my measure" or something like that.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by abhilegend
I've never seen him amp his strength beyond thing's strength on his own.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Branlor Swift

Key word being amp. I never said his natural strength isn't superior to Thing most of the time.

Branlor Swift
So his natural strength is over Thing's level, but you've never seen him amp above Thing's level (like in the first scan)?

Also, this:

Originally posted by abhilegend
I wasn't saying he doesn't have strength above thing level, I said he hasn't amped his natural strength beyond Thing level.


You confused me as much as you confused yourself IMO.

Rage.Of.Olympus
laughing out loud

Oh Abhil, you spin my head right round, right round.

StiltmanFTW
laughing

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So his natural strength is over Thing's level, but you've never seen him amp above Thing's level (like in the first scan)?

Also, this:




You confused me as much as you confused yourself IMO. Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/gifs/charliemurphy.gif

abhilegend
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So his natural strength is over Thing's level, but you've never seen him amp above Thing's level (like in the first scan)?

Also, this:




You confused me as much as you confused yourself IMO.
Surfer is just that type of guy, he has strength above Thing most of the time but he wouldn't look good against Thing or even namor in strength department. Just look how he performed against worthy Attuma. What I'm saying is that he has natural strength beyond thing level most of the time but if he faces thing, he would look competitive against him too in strength and I haven't seen that surfer amping his strength beyond thing level. Why? That's because its his only showing of amping his strength and using that as a proof to show he can compete against the likes of colossonaut is as right as Thing oneshotting surfer from the same era.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol. Now your purposefully trying to confuse us.

Mindset
I think Abhi has had a stroke.

Branlor Swift
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer is just that type of guy, he has strength above Thing most of the time but he wouldn't look good against Thing or even namor in strength department. Just look how he performed against worthy Attuma. What I'm saying is that he has natural strength beyond thing level most of the time but if he faces thing, he would look competitive against him too in strength and I haven't seen that surfer amping his strength beyond thing level. Why? That's because its his only showing of amping his strength and using that as a proof to show he can compete against the likes of colossonaut is as right as Thing oneshotting surfer from the same era. ...

Long story short, you gotta keep a bunch of newspaper in one spot and make them piss there, until they learn to go outside






Did that answer that? Jeeze, I hope it did.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
...

Long story short, you gotta keep a bunch of newspaper in one spot and make them piss there, until they learn to go outside






Did that answer that? Jeeze, I hope it did.
laughing out loud

You are still the biggest ******* I ever knew.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Mindset
I think Abhi has had a stroke. laughing out loud

TheGodKiller
Surfer easily.

753
Originally posted by abhilegend
I've never seen him amp his strength beyond thing's strength on his own. He had to absorb a lot of energy from sun to amp himself to the point he was about to explode and went mad to destroy a moon and even then he had to release every bit of his energy alongside the impact. wihtout even going into the thing affair that others have addressed, you do know he has much better power output feats than destroying a moon without even resorting to sundipping. I get that your point is that he is often not very impressive when said to be amping and so people shouldnt assume he can amp much further than his baseline. But seen as his baseline is usually better than those low showings, there's no sense in claiming his amping sucks and will put him at moonbusting levels while almost having a stroke.

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer is just that type of guy, he has strength above Thing most of the time but he wouldn't look good against Thing or even namor in strength department. Just look how he performed against worthy Attuma. What I'm saying is that he has natural strength beyond thing level most of the time but if he faces thing, he would look competitive against him too in strength and I haven't seen that surfer amping his strength beyond thing level. Why? That's because its his only showing of amping his strength and using that as a proof to show he can compete against the likes of colossonaut is as right as Thing oneshotting surfer from the same era.

Just admit you were wrong abhi. Instead of getting into a very confusing justification for what you said.

Raisen
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer is just that type of guy, he has strength above Thing most of the time but he wouldn't look good against Thing or even namor in strength department. Just look how he performed against worthy Attuma. What I'm saying is that he has natural strength beyond thing level most of the time but if he faces thing, he would look competitive against him too in strength and I haven't seen that surfer amping his strength beyond thing level. Why? That's because its his only showing of amping his strength and using that as a proof to show he can compete against the likes of colossonaut is as right as Thing oneshotting surfer from the same era.

I don't understand what you are trying to say. It sounds like double talk

Raisen
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DarkSaint85
Ask Mindset.

He's the resident guru here.

PM him - sometimes, he doesn't get the messages, though, so you'll have to send many repeated messages.

abhilegend
Originally posted by 753
wihtout even going into the thing affair that others have addressed, you do know he has much better power output feats than destroying a moon without even resorting to sundipping. I get that your point is that he is often not very impressive when said to be amping and so people shouldnt assume he can amp much further than his baseline. But seen as his baseline is usually better than those low showings, there's no sense in claiming his amping sucks and will put him at moonbusting levels while almost having a stroke.
His energy output=/=strength level.Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Just admit you were wrong abhi. Instead of getting into a very confusing justification for what you said.
laughing out loud
Nah man, thanks for looking out for me though.

753
Originally posted by Raisen
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IIRC, for youtube it's video id the video id is the code that comes after ?v= on the url

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