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Recently happened in Secret Avengers #36. Not sure if the fight will continue in the next issue. Who do posters believe would be victorious?

Jim imho

I don't know much about CB, but I know hes around class 100 with flight and some magical properties. Seems like a very tough win for hammond. He performed well in the issue though. I want to know more about CB before I make my decision in the poll. Anyone? Maybe some feats?

Actually Captain Britain is class 90, with super sonic flight speed, great invulnerability, immune to telepathic assaults, he is
one tough mofo. Have to go with CB!!

Seeing as torch slugs it out with namor, class 90s not all that bad. Namor(and torch) are also capable of supersonic flight. Id like to get more of a feel as to just how invulnerable CB is. Hammonds flame has shown to be pretty powerful.

Captain Britain is one smart guy. His series has him pawning alot of bad mofo's like Dracula with his army of vampires, and such.

Captain Brittain is stronger than class 90.

Originally posted by carver9
Captain Brittain is stronger than class 90. I've seen him stated so before. Imo though I'd put him over 100 class, just from the small amount of feats I've seen.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Secret Avengers #36:

Hammond makes short work of Captain Britain

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/SecretAvengers036-Zone-009.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/SecretAvengers036-Zone-010.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/SecretAvengers036-Zone-015.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/SecretAvengers036-Zone-020.jpg

In this issue he smashed through a sentinel and plowed torch into the ground with sufficient force. His flame sewmed to be too much though.

Britain's not more than Class 90. And since he's not magic anymore, but a mutant whose power is based on his current confidence in himself, that could be his downfall when he doesn't put Jim down right away.

Torch suckered him with that first blast. CB withstood that, and another blast and then plowed him into the ground. The rest is off panel but I think CB has at least a reasonable shot at putting him down first. Imo Torch has quickly downed more durable opponents though( Namor, Wonderman)

What know all of sudden CB is a mutant, and lost his magical powers that is wack. Where's Meggan, she'll beat Human Torch

It doesn't really make any sense, how is Torch more powerful than CB regardless if he lost his magic he is still a powerhouse non the less. And Human torch beating Wonder Man, unless became a elemental like Red Tornado of JLA.

Yep, leave it up to Meggan to get him out of an ass whooping. Like against Colossus.

Originally posted by the Darkone
It doesn't really make any sense, how is Torch more powerful than CB regardless if he lost his magic he is still a powerhouse non the less. And Human torch beating Wonder Man, unless became a elemental like Red Tornado of JLA.

His flame has downed more durable foes quickly

Here he pretty much one shots namor with a prolonged blast
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/TheMarvelProject03pg19copy.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/TheMarvelProject03pg20copy.jpg

Here he simply emits an aura of heat and flame so strong that it immediately floors Wonderman, Ms Marvel, Ares, and Black Window collectively.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/AvengersInvaders-010-1.jpg

He even somehow infuses Sentry with or transfers his flame power to him and overwhelms him to the point where he retreats away from the fight scene

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/AvengersInvaders-006-007.jpg
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Here hes so hot that he burns at the bottom of the ocean. Changing the elemental structure of the water as his flame touches it

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/CaptainAmerica-SentinelofLiberty-4.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/CaptainAmerica-SentinelofLiberty-3.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/CaptainAmerica-SentinelofLiberty-2.jpg

Originally posted by namorsubby
His flame has downed more durable foes quickly

Here he pretty much one shots namor with a prolonged blast
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/TheMarvelProject03pg19copy.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/TheMarvelProject03pg20copy.jpg

Here he simply emits an aura of heat and flame so strong that it immediately floors Wonderman, Ms Marvel, Ares, and Black Window collectively.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/AvengersInvaders-010-1.jpg

He even somehow infuses Sentry with or transfers his flame power to him and overwhelms him to the point where he retreats away from the fight scene

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/AvengersInvaders-006-007.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/AvengersInvaders-008-1.jpg

Here hes so hot that he burns at the bottom of the ocean. Changing the elemental structure of the water as his flame touches it

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/CaptainAmerica-SentinelofLiberty-4.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/CaptainAmerica-SentinelofLiberty-3.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/CaptainAmerica-SentinelofLiberty-2.jpg


I have Avengers/Invaders comics, Im saying Wonder Man was flown through a sun by Hyperion and wasn't even phased, I understand to a point that HT get so hot that it's overwhelming to the people he is fighting, but people like Wonder Man, Sentry or Thor should be able to over come with their track record.

But I did love that Sentry scene

Originally posted by the Darkone
I have Avengers/Invaders comics, Im saying Wonder Man was flown through a sun by Hyperion and wasn't even phased, I understand to a point that HT get so hot that it's overwhelming to the people he is fighting, but people like Wonder Man, Sentry or Thor should be able to over come with their track record.

But I did love that Sentry scene Sentry and Thor of course. Probably Wonderman too, but CB?

He showed a fair amount of resistance to jims flame in their encounter, but I'm pretty sure he lacks their durability of those guys or even Namor.

Sorry but the human torchs fire shouldn't affect him Captain Britain has fought Ms.Marvel in her binary form and come out the other end fine plus he has fought the phoenix force and he pushed it back.

Originally posted by Tatsu666
Sorry but the human torchs fire shouldn't affect him Captain Britain has fought Ms.Marvel in her binary form and come out the other end fine plus he has fought the phoenix force and he pushed it back. The writers of Secret Avengers #36 disagree with you. As do I.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Secret Avengers #36:

Hammond makes short work of Captain Britain

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/SecretAvengers036-Zone-009.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/SecretAvengers036-Zone-010.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/SecretAvengers036-Zone-015.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/SecretAvengers036-Zone-020.jpg

The captain should win. He is British after all.

Sorry but the same writers of Secret Avengers showed CB doing well with the Phoenix's flames and yet now against HT the flames affect him thats sort of messed up don't you think?

CB's durability level is not that high. Hammond flames has hurt more durable opponents.

If CB's durability level is not that high how could he have gone up against the Phoenix Force Juggernaut and Thor, The only way i can see HT's flames affect him is due to CB's powers because they now work on the level of his own confidence and willpower, plus with the nano mist affecting everyone and yet Brian is wearing his old outfit that gives him his powers so he should be as strong as he was before he got his power up and so any of his confidence and willpower that he has should of added to his powers.

Hay namorsubby have you checked CB's respect thread on this site?

Last I checked CB was class 90. IDK how durable he is at the peak of his confidence/willpower but I know he no longer has magical invulnerability.

Jims flames hurt wonderman, namor, and CB himself a few months ago. Those guys are more durable unless CB has had an upgrade.

The upgrade i was talking about is the one CB got during the Secret Invasion were Merlin made him out of magic it's just that at the moment with his powers Marvel hasn't put a limit to them, So this is just an idea but he might be a bit like the Hulk you know with no limit at all and have you seen CB's respect thread on this site yet some stuff are missing like the new stuff and sorry i don't have any scans of them.

Captain Britain is fail. I thought the OHT was about as powerful as the FF HT (which would be enough to give him 10/10 vs Captain Fail), but it seems like he's actually more powerful.

Stomp in favor of OHT.