Django vs Beatrix Kiddo

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Dr Will Hatch
Both are on opposite sides of a modern day city with GPS coordinates and a photograph to track down the other person(Yes, Django has been informed on how all post-19th century stuff works). The first one to kill the other wins. It's that simple.

Which Tarantino anti-hero wins?

KingD19
The one with lots of guns and a really quick draw.

Django is the real Black Mamba.

the ninjak
One would think that Beatrix would just get a hold of a sniper rifle and kill the guy from a distance. There is a whole city separating them and if they have GPS coverage of where the other is, then Kiddo's modern day knowledge of weapons and equipment will give her the edge.

She's a member of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad. She isn't just gonna rush the guy with sword in hand.

KingD19
All she ever used was a sword. That's what she was trained in. The whole hit squad was up close and personal. You'd be just as likely to see her use a sniper rifle as you would Django a katana.

Also, since she never showed any training or skill with a sniper rifle, chances are she'd suck even if she got one. Django on the other hand was an excellent marksman with primitive rifles compared to what we have now. Give him a sniper rifle and she gets her head blown off.

Also...black people probably look alike to her.

Mindset
laughing out loud

the ninjak
Originally posted by KingD19
All she ever used was a sword. That's what she was trained in. The whole hit squad was up close and personal. You'd be just as likely to see her use a sniper rifle as you would Django a katana.

Also, since she never showed any training or skill with a sniper rifle, chances are she'd suck even if she got one. Django on the other hand was an excellent marksman with primitive rifles compared to what we have now. Give him a sniper rifle and she gets her head blown off.

Also...black people probably look alike to her.

Well that's where you are wrong. O-Ren Ishii was an expert sniper, as shown in the animated movie that accompanied her origin. All of the Deadly Viper Squad were versed in firearms but were also trained by Pai Mei, an extremely famous HQ Cinema and historical warrior.

O-Ren also only used swords in her live action scenes though she was an expert in firearms. The rest of the team showed the use of firearms when they stormed Kiddo's wedding day.

This is my simple point. All members of the Deadly Viper Squad were trained heavily in MA and weapon usage. But they also had experience in firearms.

O-Ren was a master marksman yet only used swords in live action. Yet they all held guns during the attack on the Bride.

Are you saying Beatrix can't handle an assault rifle or sniper rifle? considering the team's extensive history?

Django is gonna die due to the fact that the OP only gave him the ability to use loosely "Post 19th century stuff?"

I know this fight is loose as a goose but I refuse to give this fight to a man out of time compared to an expert assassin from the present.
Regardless of the faults in Tarantino's storytelling.

This fight is as dumb as it gets. Give a cowboy from 1858 knowledge of the present and set him against an expert assassin from the modern times.
It's even more stupid by situating it in a major city with both members on separate sides.

KingD19
Originally posted by the ninjak
Well that's where you are wrong. O-Ren Ishii was an expert sniper, as shown in the animated movie that accompanied her origin. All of the Deadly Viper Squad were versed in firearms but were also trained by Pei Mei, an extremely famous HQ Cinema and historical warrior.

O-Ren also only used swords in her live action scenes though she was an expert in firearms. The rest of the team showed the use of firearms when they stormed Kiddo's wedding day.

This is my simple point. All members of the Deadly Viper Squad were trained heavily in MA and weapon usage. But they also had experience in firearms.

O-Ren was a master marksman yet only used swords in live action. Yet they all held guns during the attack on the Bride.

Are you saying Beatrix can't handle an assault rifle or sniper rifle? considering the team's extensive history?

Django is gonna die due to the fact that the OP only gave him the ability to use loosely "Post 19th century stuff?"

I know this fight is loose as a goose but I refuse to give this fight to a man out of time compared to an expert assassin from the present.
Regardless of the faults in Tarantino's storytelling.

I thought it was established we couldn't use animated movies unless specifically stated. That's why Riddick doesn't get feats from Dark Fury, even though it directly bridges Pitch Black and Chronicles.

Also, knowing how to shoot an assault rifle is a lot different than shooting a sniper rifle, and gunning innocent people down from close range with a bullet storm is different from making a single precise shot. If you're at the distance where a sniper rifle is even necessary, you've gotta be checking wind speed, target distance, bullet drop, target movement, etc... And most of that stuff is done with the assistance of a spotter. Anybody can pick up an assault rifle and have it down in a few days. It's as simple as point and click. Sniper training has a months long training course dedicated to it for a reason.

Django on the other hand had extensively shown gun training, and even with a repeater with nothing but a very simple iron sight, he bullseyed a guy going on a horse at least 20mph at night. If he was informed on how a GPS works, he's definitely been informed on how guns work.

He's clearly the better sniper as he has actually sniped people. At least 2 from extremely far away with a rather primitive rifle compared to now.

the ninjak
The animated episode was part of O-Ren's origin in the film. To say it doesn't count is madness.

It was a chapter in Kill Bill. And her feats count. As is the fact she used swords in all her live action scenes she was also shown to be an expert in modern day firearms.

I agree that obviously Django has "ANY" firearm expertise on film. By this argument any character in the history of film can kill Kiddo if they showed any sign of gun use.

KingD19
Okay, let's put it this way. What did each party in this thread use a vast majority of the time? Beatrix used her sword, the strongest sword in the Kill Bill verse. Why wouldn't she use it now? She had plenty of opportunities to get a gun and use it to great effect in the movies.

Against Bill, against the Crazy 88, against Viper(Whatever Vivica Fox's character was), but she never did. She almost strictly used her sword.

For her to use something else is out of character and you know it.

Django on the other hand used nothing but guns. He shoots her. The end.

the ninjak
F.U. Dr Will Hatch.

For making a spite thread for the ages. Even an extensive argument against the guy with the guns has no grounds....F.U.

Even Leslie Nelson from the Naked Gun movies would win this fight.

quanchi112
Kiddo destroys him.

KingD19
How by getting shot in the face?

quanchi112
Originally posted by KingD19
How by getting shot in the face? Kiddo's on another level than he is. She's been up against the greatest killers off the planet with modern weaponry. He dies.

KingD19
Are you serious? Every person she fought used a melee weapon from the feudal area.
Crazy 88 = Katanas
Go-Go Yubari = Spiked Mace w/Chain
O-Ren Ishii = Katana
Vernita Green = Knife
Elle Driver = Katana
Bill = 2nd strongest Katana in existence

The only person who used a gun on her was Vernita, and she missed because she was better at using a knife(it was stated to be her prefrerence and speciality) than a gun. And she was trying to take her by surprise.

Django is a better marksman than everyone on that list, and aside from O-Ren the only one to actually show true marksmanship. Budd was also the only other member of the Viper Squad who used guns more than anything else, and if he hadn't had rock salt in that shotgun, Beatrix would be dead.

Django wins by shooting her in the face because she walks around with a sword.

quanchi112
Originally posted by KingD19
Are you serious? Every person she fought used a melee weapon from the feudal area.
Crazy 88 = Katanas
Go-Go Yubari = Spiked Mace w/Chain
O-Ren Ishii = Katana
Vernita Green = Knife
Elle Driver = Katana
Bill = 2nd strongest Katana in existence

The only person who used a gun on her was Vernita, and she missed because she was better at using a knife(it was stated to be her prefrerence and speciality) than a gun. And she was trying to take her by surprise.

Django is a better marksman than everyone on that list, and aside from O-Ren the only one to actually show true marksmanship. Budd was also the only other member of the Viper Squad who used guns more than anything else, and if he hadn't had rock salt in that shotgun, Beatrix would be dead.

Django wins by shooting her in the face because she walks around with a sword. He caught her by surprise though. That's the point. She closes the distance and destroys him. 10/10. Django didn't beat anyone impressive in the entire movie.

KingD19
So they track each other down from opposite sides of the city, and she kills him first despite him having extreme range advantage, and an even faster quickdraw. Please. Django stomps because he has guns. Plain and simple. What can Beatrix do to not get shot in the face when they find each other?

And keep in mind Django was already a better tracker than her, as he got by with less information to go on. And killed nearly a dozen men with a single revolver.

Mindset
Let's be honest.

He phucks her.

KingD19
Originally posted by Mindset
Let's be honest.

He phucks her.

http://i.imgur.com/CAabK.jpg

dadudemon
Originally posted by Mindset
Let's be honest.

He phucks her.

Unless he plans to **** me in the ass, he is going to have to wait until I'm done.

Mindset
Originally posted by dadudemon
Unless he plans to **** me in the ass, he is going to have to wait until I'm done. He does.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Mindset
He does.

He's going to have a bad time.

Mindset
He was a slave, he's had worse.

quanchi112
Originally posted by KingD19
So they track each other down from opposite sides of the city, and she kills him first despite him having extreme range advantage, and an even faster quickdraw. Please. Django stomps because he has guns. Plain and simple. What can Beatrix do to not get shot in the face when they find each other?

And keep in mind Django was already a better tracker than her, as he got by with less information to go on. And killed nearly a dozen men with a single revolver. Those weren't trained super killers. The class of foe in Kill Bill was the best in the world. Not the same in Django. Not even close. Kiddo rapes him.

KingD19
Doesn't matter. He has guns, and she has a katana. There's literally nothing she can do to not get shot in the face.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by KingD19
Doesn't matter. He has guns, and she has a katana. There's literally nothing she can do to not get shot in the face.


wouldn't that make this spite though

Dolos
BBoP2l7VBeo

This time it isn't rock salt.

KingD19
Definitely, but the OP didn't make any rules other than they both use a GPS to find each other.

Going by the 2 movies she has, it's The Bride's character to attack him with a sword. I don't believe she ever used a gun, when she had ample opportunity to use one, and would have made her revenge sooo much easier.

Django on the other hand going by his 1 movie, is an expert marksman, and extremely fast on the draw. And he uses guns. Pistols, rifles, just guns.

quanchi112
Originally posted by KingD19
Doesn't matter. He has guns, and she has a katana. There's literally nothing she can do to not get shot in the face. She isn't going to run out in the open. She stalks him and kills him.

KingD19
I can say he does the same, by sniping her while she's looking for him. He was rather fond of high vantage points for sniping.

quanchi112
Originally posted by KingD19
I can say he does the same, by sniping her while she's looking for him. He was rather fond of high vantage points for sniping. He's never had to do so against someone of her elite training. She killed the best in the world. The same cannot be said for him.

KingD19
She killed the best in the world in up close swordfights. What is she going to do to Django, who has at least 2 guns with 12 shots. But more likely has at least 2 guns with around 30 shots. Also, stop trying to play her out of her character. She never snuck up on anybody. She outright fought them, it was because of her honorable nature honed by Pai Mei.

quanchi112
Originally posted by KingD19
She killed the best in the world in up close swordfights. What is she going to do to Django, who has at least 2 guns with 12 shots. But more likely has at least 2 guns with around 30 shots. Also, stop trying to play her out of her character. She never snuck up on anybody. She outright fought them, it was because of her honorable nature honed by Pai Mei. If she knows the guy has a gun she isn't going to announce her presence. She also did sneak up on everyone. She didn't send them a letter announcing the day of her arrival.

KingD19
But when she got there, she gave them ample time to get ready for a fight. Hell, she had conversations with most of them before they even fought.

And every. single. time. She found one of the Viper's, they already were waiting and prepared for her; this will be the same.

Oh, and she knew Budd had a gun. All Budd tended to use was guns, it was his specialty. Yet she still got a rock salt slug to the chest.

quanchi112
Originally posted by KingD19
But when she got there, she gave them ample time to get ready for a fight. Hell, she had conversations with most of them before they even fought.

And every. single. time. She found one of the Viper's, they already were waiting and prepared for her; this will be the same.

Oh, and she knew Budd had a gun. All Budd tended to use was guns, it was his specialty. Yet she still got a rock salt slug to the chest. They trained with her and were peerish wise in terms of skill level. She wanted them to suffer and to destroy them in combat. She did. She doesn't have the history against Django. He doesn't have anywhere near the competition she had to go against.

He caught her by surprise. That's true but there isn't a trailer to hide from nor will she announce to him she's on her way.

Zack Fair
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Django curbstomps.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Zack Fair
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Django curbstomps. Based on ?

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