Blade or Deathstroke

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YFZ 350
Who is?

Faster
Stronger
Better fighter
Better healer
More agile
Better reflexes

juggernaut74
Faster-Blade
Stronger-Slade
Better fighter-Slade
Better healer-Slade
More agile-Tie
Better reflexes-Slade

juggernaut74
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Who is?

Faster
Stronger
Better fighter
Better healer
More agile
Better reflexes BTW you should have added marksmenship to the list.

srankmissingnin
Faster: Slade
Stronger: Blade
Better fighter: Probably close but Blade's never gotten his ass kicked by Nightwing or Arsenal, for whatever that's worth
Better healer: Deathstroke
More agile: Deathstroke
Better reflexes: Deathstroke

YFZ 350
Originally posted by juggernaut74
BTW you should have added marksmenship to the list. I'd say Blade is better.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by YFZ 350
I'd say Blade is better. That can be argued.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Stronger: Blade
Out of curiousity why do you think this?

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by juggernaut74
That can be argued.

Out of curiousity why do you think this?

Because Blade has strength feats, Slade does not.

pym-ftw
Faster: Blade
Stronger: Blade
Better fighter: Slade
Better healer: Slade
More agile: Slade
Better reflexes: Blade

juggernaut74
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because Blade has strength feats, Slade does not. I found these Slade feats in a respect thread. I copy and pasted but these are about equal to Blade's imo. What Blade feats do you think surpass these?




7. Strength

Breaks Kyle Rayner's hand like a feeble twig:
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/Pr...risis_03_10.jpg

Cuts a car in half
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/Pr...erman580p10.jpg

*Kicking down a metal door:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/679/deathstrokekicksdowndooae7.jpg


*Stating he has the strength of ten men:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2410/deathstrokestrengthoftewe6.jpg


*Busting loose from chains:

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2575/deathstrokesnapschains1zx9.jpg


*Shattering a bamboo cage with one swing of his arm:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7463/deathstrokesmashescage1xa6.jpg


*Punching loose a ventilation grill:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3226/deathstrokepunchesvent1rb6.jpg

Strength of 100 Men *non-continuity*
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/Pr...Annual03-47.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/Pr...Annual03-48.jpg

sCOURGE_0
Most of Slade's strength feats come through his striking power, he hits harder than Blade does. Unless Blade can demolish a steel door in a single kick

On top of that Slade has an ability to detect weakpoints similiar to what Wolverine showed in Manifest Destiny or what Batman showed when he used pressure points on Solomon Grundy

ThereIsHope
I think that Slade would kill Blade. But thats just me guessing.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
I think that Slade would kill Blade. But thats just me guessing. That's pretty accurate, since the only thing Blade may have is strength which doesn't mean much considering how hard Slade hits.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
That's pretty accurate, since the only thing Blade may have is strength which doesn't mean much considering how hard Slade hits. Yea in a fight Slade rapes Blade hard.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I found these Slade feats in a respect thread. I copy and pasted but these are about equal to Blade's imo. What Blade feats do you think surpass these?




7. Strength

Breaks Kyle Rayner's hand like a feeble twig:
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/Pr...risis_03_10.jpg

Cuts a car in half
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/Pr...erman580p10.jpg

*Kicking down a metal door:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/679/deathstrokekicksdowndooae7.jpg


*Stating he has the strength of ten men:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2410/deathstrokestrengthoftewe6.jpg


*Busting loose from chains:

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2575/deathstrokesnapschains1zx9.jpg


*Shattering a bamboo cage with one swing of his arm:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7463/deathstrokesmashescage1xa6.jpg


*Punching loose a ventilation grill:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3226/deathstrokepunchesvent1rb6.jpg

Strength of 100 Men *non-continuity*
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/Pr...Annual03-47.jpg
http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t180/Pr...Annual03-48.jpg

Even if a good chunk of these weren't broken links, it would still be the saddest list of "strength" feats ever compiled.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Even if a good chunk of these weren't broken links, it would still be the saddest list of "strength" feats ever compiled. I guess I didn't copy the whole link, my bad. I don't think Blade was really known for strength feats either though.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I guess I didn't copy the whole link, my bad. I don't think Blade was really known for strength feats either though.

He isn't. The ones he has are just a bit better.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He isn't. The ones he has are just a bit better. Found these in the Blade thread. Hope they work but they don't seem as good as Slade's imo.

Rips the head off of a vampire with one hand:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/th_BHR1.jpg

Cracks the skull of a Mindless One with a punch:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/th_Bladeadamantiumodachi.jpg

Throws a knife with enough force to knock a vampire off of Spider-Man who was strong enough to hold him down like a baby:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladesavingspidey.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladesavingspidey2.jpg

Holds the massive vampire demon god the Reaper over his head:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladeliftreaper.jpg

Easily shoves a large vampire called Whiteworm quite a distance:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladestrengthWiz.jpg

Casually rips open a set of metal elevator doors bending them in the process:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladeadamantiumodachi2.jpg

Burrows his way to the surface with his hands from a underground cave:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladedigginBlade2.jpg

One handed throws a vampire across a bar:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladestrengthTOD1.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladestrengthTOD1-2.jpg

Easily tears a metal door from the hinges:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladejumps2.jpg

Again, with one hand Blade tosses a vampire over a high security fence:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladestrength-1.jpg

Breaks the coils of Deacon Frost by breaking his arms apart:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladebreaks.jpg

Breaks the back of a vampire assasin:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladebeakingback.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladebeakingback2.jpg

With a injured arm tosses a vampire straight into the air then easily snaps a stone sword and kills her on her way down:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladestrengthSOF.jpg

Breaks out of Deacon Frost's grip and stakes his ass:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20fights/BladeandFrost2.jpg

After getting shot Blade kicks down a metal door and bends it from the force of the kick:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladekicks.jpg

Blade knocks down and bends another fairly thick metal door:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladestrengthSOF2.jpg

Holds a thug by the throat effortlessly in the air by one hand with his arm outstretched:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladestrenthNS17.jpg

Again single handedly holds a vampire with his arm outstretched off a rooftop with ease(during WWII):
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladedracula.jpg

Blade overpowers two MI:13 agents who were trying to restrain him:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladejumps.jpg

YFZ 350
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Yea in a fight Slade rapes Blade hard. It would be a good fight.

KingD19
@Juggernaut

You compare those list of feats...and you think Slade looks stronger?

Que?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by KingD19
@Juggernaut

You compare those list of feats...and you think Slade looks stronger?

Que? Well busting out of the chains and breaking Kyle's hand are impressive imo. I guess I forgot about Blade ripping that vamps head off and bending the metal elevator doors so I guess I might be wrong on that assumption of Slade being stronger.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by KingD19
@Juggernaut

You compare those list of feats...and you think Slade looks stronger?

Que? Not his raw strength feats, if I recall Blade is bonafide superhuman and not enhanced.

Slade still hits harder though

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2532/684623-faces_of_evil___deathstroke___017_super.jpg

KingD19
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well busting out of the chains and breaking Kyle's hand are impressive imo. I guess I forgot about Blade ripping that vamps head off and bending the metal elevator doors so I guess I might be wrong on that assumption of Slade being stronger.

Breaking a normal human's hand isn't too hard. Unless Kyle had his shield up, in which case it was utter PIS.

And there's a difference between hitting harder, and seemingly hitting harder because you're hitting the sweet spot. And his sword is made of some super material if he can slice through a car and swing it like a bat against impact resistant glass.


Also yes, Blade is legit Superhuman.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by KingD19
Breaking a normal human's hand isn't too hard. Unless Kyle had his shield up, in which case it was utter PIS.

And there's a difference between hitting harder, and seemingly hitting harder because you're hitting the sweet spot. And his sword is made of some super material if he can slice through a car and swing it like a bat against impact resistant glass.


Also yes, Blade is legit Superhuman. Tomato To Ma Toe, Slade is still causing more damage because he can see structural weak points

Even without it he's able to kick down reinforced steel doors

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/82702/2086448-largenewteentitansv102_03.jpg

In this thread there was a scan of Blade kicking down a metal door, however that door was connected by hinges

The door Slade kicked was bolted in and connected to a support beam, you can tell in the scan where HIVE is monitoring him.

You have that and his ability to see structural weaknesses and he can cause more damage with strikes than most streets can

YFZ 350
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well busting out of the chains and breaking Kyle's hand are impressive imo. I guess I forgot about Blade ripping that vamps head off and bending the metal elevator doors so I guess I might be wrong on that assumption of Slade being stronger. Blade ripping that metal door from the wall was bad@ss also.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by KingD19
Breaking a normal human's hand isn't too hard. Unless Kyle had his shield up, in which case it was utter PIS.

And there's a difference between hitting harder, and seemingly hitting harder because you're hitting the sweet spot. And his sword is made of some super material if he can slice through a car and swing it like a bat against impact resistant glass.


Also yes, Blade is legit Superhuman. Good points. But I do think Slade is superhuman also comfortably. Tearing a uber vampires head with your bare hands really helps your case I suppose as I can't think of a Slade feat that matches that.

namorsubby
Originally posted by KingD19
Breaking a normal human's hand isn't too hard. Unless Kyle had his shield up, in which case it was utter PIS.

And there's a difference between hitting harder, and seemingly hitting harder because you're hitting the sweet spot. And his sword is made of some super material if he can slice through a car and swing it like a bat against impact resistant glass.


Also yes, Blade is legit Superhuman. It wasn't his sword in that scan, it was a metal pole that had been broken off of something. And it was missle proof glass. He detected and hit the structurally weakest part, but it was still missle proof glass.....which he broke with a metal stick.

Also the door feat is a good one. Never seen a peak or low level take down a reinforced steel door that easily. Not Bruce....not Cap.

juggernaut74
Yea those are good feats for Slade. namorsubby I'd like to hear your thoughts on this thread?

Daredevil1
Slade kicking down that door is really not that impressive compared to someone like Cap for instance, if you want to be honest with yourself.

Plus it was missile proof glass that alone makes is impressive but its vague on how weak the weak spot is. It could be weak that it can still handle a missile or it could be weak in that spot that it cannot handle a vastly weaker hit there. But it makes it vague and it could be argued one way or the other.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby


Also the door feat is a good one. Never seen a peak or low level take down a reinforced steel door that easily. Not Bruce....not Cap.


Cap has easily taken down a steel door.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/994/advofcaptainamerica306.jpg

Plus if you think about someone could argue that both Cap/Slade broke the door off of its hinges.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap has easily taken down a steel door.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/994/advofcaptainamerica306.jpg

Plus if you think about someone could argue that both Cap/Slade broke the door off of its hinges. What comic is that? That art work is terrible

Plus it looks like Cap charged through that door, running through it means he had extra momentum which is alot less impressive than Slade standing and smashing the door with a kick, without any extra momentum.

The only other time we've seen Cap destroy a steel door is when he was injured but again, he used his shoulder to plow through it, extra leverage which isn't applicable in a fight.

As far as that missile proof glass goes, it was at Belle Reve which is a prison for superhumans so it's safe to assume that even the weakest spot on that glass is durable enough to withstand missiles.

Daredevil1
This one I like as a wounded Cap again takes down a steel door. But what makes it impressive is Cap dents and cracks the thick steel big time.


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3435/camedusaeffect050.jpg

namorsubby
Lol he didn't even show the scan before it where cap was struggling against the door before he got through it. Much less impressive than just kicking through one in stride.

Here are a few for Slade:

Throws sarcophigi
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/NewTitansAnnual08-52.jpg

Beastboy can't hold back Slades one arm as a gorilla
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/TT46-19.jpg

Breaks concrete with feet after jumping off a building
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/NightwingV2814.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/NightwingV2815.jpg

Lifts and throws gorilla
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/02402.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/02403.jpg

Climb a wall by driving his fingers into it
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/Detective708-25.jpg

rips locked trunk door completely off underwater
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-24-06.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-24-07.jpg

throws two daggers, sending two men airborne. Upheaves about five from his body effortlessly
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-37-13.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-37-14.jpg

Daredevil1
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
What comic is that? That art work is terrible

Plus it looks like Cap charged through that door, running through it means he had extra momentum which is alot less impressive than Slade standing and smashing the door with a kick, without any extra momentum.

The only other time we've seen Cap destroy a steel door is when he was injured but again, he used his shoulder to plow through it, extra leverage which isn't applicable in a fight.

As far as that missile proof glass goes, it was at Belle Reve which is a prison for superhumans so it's safe to assume that even the weakest spot on that glass is durable enough to withstand missiles.


No in the page prior Cap was right next to the door as he notices it locked after he grabbed the handle. So no running momentum was indicated he's right next to it. Adventures arch.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0


As far as that missile proof glass goes, it was at Belle Reve which is a prison for superhumans so it's safe to assume that even the weakest spot on that glass is durable enough to withstand missiles.


Assume is taking a leap though. Better concrete evidence or it could be argued IMO.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by Daredevil1
This one I like as a wounded Cap again takes down a steel door. But what makes it impressive is Cap dents and cracks the thick steel big time.


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3435/camedusaeffect050.jpg Yeah that's the one, not really a striking feat though

That scan with that bad art work, I believe it's from Adventures of Captain America which may or may not be canon anyway. Not 100% sure though, if someone else can clarify that'd be nice

YFZ 350
Guys Cap isn't in this thread.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Assume is taking a leap though. Better concrete evidence or it could be argued IMO. That's all there is to work with, at least we know the glass was built to withstand missiles, if there was a weak spot that just anyone with a metal rod could bust chances are it would of been replaced since the entire point of it was to keep metahumans locked away.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Yeah that's the one, not really a striking feat though

That scan with that bad art work, I believe it's from Adventures of Captain America which may or may not be canon anyway. Not 100% sure though, if someone else can clarify that'd be nice


Its cannon to my knowledge as it was never indicated as it being a alternate reality or other universe.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Guys Cap isn't in this thread. Right...giving it to Slade in all categories except strength

Daredevil1
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Guys Cap isn't in this thread.


Sorry namorsubby referenced that he has never seen a peak or low level super character bring down a steel door easily.

Just informing him.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
That's all there is to work with, at least we know the glass was built to withstand missiles, if there was a weak spot that just anyone with a metal rod could bust chances are it would of been replaced since the entire point of it was to keep metahumans locked away.



Not unless they do not know where the weak spot is as Slade could deduce. Maybe he seen cheap manufacturing like this before or just noticed a slight difference.

The point is that it is vague and can be argued IMO. But we can agree to disagree.

namorsubby
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Assume is taking a leap though. Better concrete evidence or it could be argued IMO.

You do realize that if even the weakest part of the glass wasn't missle proof it couldn't be called missle proof glass right?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Sorry namorsubby referenced that he has never seen a peak or low level super character bring down a steel door easily.

Just informing him.
It obviously took more effort for Cap in those scans. I do not expect you to acknowledge this at all, but it is so.

But yeah, this isn't a cap thread.

I'd go with Slade. Strength is close. Speed and agility are very very close.

complexbrother
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Faster: Blade
Stronger: Blade
Better fighter: Slade
Better healer: Slade
More agile: Slade
Better reflexes: Blade


Happy Dance I agree with this 100% .

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
You do realize that if even the weakest part of the glass wasn't missle proof it couldn't be called missle proof glass right?

But yeah, this isn't a cap thread.

I'd go with Slade. Strength is close. Speed and agility are very very close.



Not unless the weakness was never known subby.

namorsubby
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Not unless the weakness was never known subby. That is making an assumption. They say missle proof glass, then I take it as missle proof glass. Further speculation is useless.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Not unless the weakness was never known subby. What is your opinion on the thread at hand?

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
You do realize that if even the weakest part of the glass wasn't missle proof it couldn't be called missle proof glass right?


It obviously took more effort for Cap in those scans. I do not expect you to acknowledge this at all, but it is so.

But yeah, this isn't a cap thread.

I'd go with Slade. Strength is close. Speed and agility are very very close.


Not with Adventures it looked easily done.

Plus notice Slade did his with a kick as well(As a kick normally generated more force then a punch). But in that one cap used his old traingle steel shield to help. So apples to oranges to determine which did it easier then the other.

Like I stated since you brought up that you never seen a peak or low level was........ trying to assist you.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by YFZ 350
What is your opinion on the thread at hand?



IMO there very close to one another in stats.

On paper probably Blade but by feats which are more important. Slade will have the edge.

namorsubby
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Not with Adventures it looked easily done.

Plus notice Slade did his with a kick as well(As a kick normally generated more force then a punch). But in that one cap used his old traingle steel shield to help. So apples to oranges to determine which did it easier then the other.

Like I stated since you brought up that you never seen a peak or low level was........ trying to assist you. Kicking a door clean off instantly while in stride is more impressive than pressing your whole body against one behind a shield until you break through. Like I said before, I dont expect you to acknowledge this.

But as for as Blade vs Slade, I do agree with you.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by namorsubby
Kicking a door clean off instantly while in stride is more impressive than pressing your whole body against one behind a shield until you break through. Like I said before, I dont expect you to acknowledge this.


No it's f@cking not. laughing

Daredevil1
Originally posted by namorsubby
That is making an assumption. They say missle proof glass, then I take it as missle proof glass. Further speculation is useless.

Accept that feat has a vague indicator allowing for questions making it non-use. Had they left that comment out I would agree with you.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Accept that feat has a vague indicator allowing for questions making it non-use. Had they left that comment out I would agree with you.

It's a f@cking pressure point feat on an inanimate object. Strength is completely irrelevant to the feat. I'm not sure why it needs to be explained, Subby knows we are right, which is why he purposely left out the page before that explains the context.

Translation: He's a liar

namorsubby
If the weakest point in the glass could not withstand the impact of a missle, it could not be missle proof glass. As usual, these noobs try ro attach their own speculation onto a feat as if its actually relevant. It said nissle proof, so it was missle proof.

I know Srank is not nearly as smart as he pretends to be. I also know hes not really dumb enough to believe that it takes more strength to use the momentum, leverage, and your whole body behind a shield. Slade casually kicked it completely off in stride. Also you could see the.holes.where the steel bars slide into the side. You know it was reinforced.

I'm well aware that you and D1 will deny anything that gives slade an edge, but this isnt even a cap thread. You got the other thread closed, isnt that enough?

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by namorsubby
If the weakest point in the glass could not withstand the impact of a missle, it could not be missle proof glass. As usual, these noobs try ro attach their own speculation onto a feat as if its actually relevant. It said nissle proof, so it was missle proof.

I know Srank is not nearly as smart as he pretends to be. I also know hes not really dumb enough to believe that it takes more strength to use the momentum, leverage, and your whole body behind a shield. Slade casually kicked it completely off in stride. Also you could see the.holes.where the steel bars slide into the side. You know it was reinforced.

I'm well aware that you and D1 will deny anything that gives slade an edge, but this isnt even a cap thread. You got the other thread closed, isnt that enough?

My own speculation? It was spelled out for you in the f@cking issue you mongoloid. If a missile hit that spot... it would have broken the glass too. It was a structural weak spot on the glass, Slade's strength had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FEAT. Anyone could have done it provided they could locate the weak spot and hit it with the correct precision. Seriously guy, you are such a retard.

Momentum and leverage? Do you know what the word leverage means? Anyway it's much easier to kick in a door than it is to shoulder check through it.

namorsubby
It said missle proof glass. It in no way states that if a missle hit that spot that it would break. That was you dummy. In fact, it says the glass is missle proof, which is like saying the exact opposite. You're an idiot.

Cap used his whole body weight behind a shield, Slade kicked it off without breaking his stride. Obviously a better feat. Youll give your captain america bed set to the homeless before you admit it, but it doesnt matter.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by namorsubby
It said missle proof glass. It in no way states that if a missle hit that spot that it would break. That was you dummy. In fact, it says the glass is missle proof, which is like saying the exact opposite. You're an idiot.

Cap used his whole body weight behind a shield, Slade kicked it off without breaking his stride. Obviously a better feat. Youll give your captain america bed set to the homeless before you admit it, but it doesnt matter.

You are so obtuse. Slade DIRECTLY STATES THERE IS A WEAK SPOT IN THE WINDOW, WHERE IT WILL BREAK IF YOU HIT IT. He doesn't say "There is a spot on the glass that will break if you are stronger than a missile and hit it..." Anyone could have broken the glass if they knew where to hit it, but they don't, Slade does. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FEAT!!!! Jesus Christ. If it was a strength feat he would has said "This is missile proof glass.. but I don't give a f@ck!" and smashed it, but he did, there is a page of exposition that provides and explanation as to how he broke the window, and strength has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Guess what? That's how you kick in a door. You stand in front of it, and you kick it making sure that you are attempting to kick "through" the door, so your leg needs to go past the door to fully extend. Kicking in a door is much easier than shoulder checking through a door.

I'm Canadian, I don't even like Captain America... I'm just not a retard. All this shit is obvious to anyone with something higher than a single digit iq. What the f@ck is wrong with you? How are you so broken?

KingD19
Pretty sure any street leveler who knew about that spot could have done the same thing.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by KingD19
Pretty sure any street leveler who knew about that spot could have done the same thing.

Of course. Slade just has zero impressive strength feats, so this idiot has to cling onto anything he can like a life raft.

It's pathetic.

KingD19
Everything he's done, Blade can replicate and surpass imo. All of Slade's impressive stuff is usually combat related.

namorsubby
You guys are assuming that because it was a weak spot, that is was not missle proof there. Youre assuming this is what was implied. Your assumptions are worthless. Your assumptions don't superceed what is stated in text. If it says missle proof, you take it as missle proof. It having a weak spot doesn't mean it isnt. if it wasn't, it couldn't be called missle proof. I feel like I'm teaching special ed students.

Slade kicked the door clean off while walking. Cap used his whole body weight, momentum, and shield. There is nothing you can say Srank. Youre slick talk is as see-through as you smart guy facade.

namorsubby
Originally posted by KingD19
Everything he's done, Blade can replicate and surpass imo. All of Slade's impressive stuff is usually combat related. Youre gonna need some feats to support that.

That being said, I think Blade and Slade are pretty close in almost all categories. Id give slade the edge though. Some categories are arguable.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by KingD19
Everything he's done, Blade can replicate and surpass imo. All of Slade's impressive stuff is usually combat related.

I think they are probably supposed to be close to equal in strength, but what I know is that Blade's feats are better... so what I think doesn't really matter. We debate here. If you can't prove something definitively... then it doesn't matter what any of us think. Slade is supposed to have super human strength, but all evidence of that strength is completely anecdotal, and anecdotal evidence is completely irrelevant in the face of real feats. Subby doesn't seem to understand any of this.

KingD19
Compare the feats already posted. Everything Slade has done, comparing feats, puts Blade well within range to replicate and surpass them. While the same can't be said for Slade doing the opposite.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by namorsubby
You guys are assuming that because it was a weak spot, that is was not missle proof there. Youre assuming this is what was implied. Your assumptions are worthless. Your assumptions don't superceed what is stated in text. If it says missle proof, you take it as missle proof. It having a weak spot doesn't mean it isnt. if it wasn't, it couldn't be called missle proof. I feel like I'm teaching special ed students.

Slade kicked the door clean off while walking. Cap used his whole body weight, momentum, and shield. There is nothing you can say Srank. Youre slick talk is as see-through as you smart guy facade.

If the weak spot was missile proof... it wouldn't have been a weak spot... it would have just been a spot on the window. I'm not assuming anything, WE WERE DIRECTLY TOLD IT WAS F@CKING WEAK SPOT. Do you not know what the word weak means? The window broke because Slade hit a structural weak spot, his strength is completely irrelevant, it's spelled out for you in the f@cking issue. I assume your mom is writing your posts for you, because someone so stupid couldn't possibly know how to read or write, so ask her to read the dialogue to you while you stare at the pretty pictures.

If you run into a door and try to ram it, you are going to be stopped cold and hurt your shoulder. If you stand in front of a door and kick it, provided you know what you are doing, you'll kick the door open. Go try it. I'll wait for your results. facepalm

juggernaut74
Originally posted by namorsubby
Youre gonna need some feats to support that.

That being said, I think Blade and Slade are pretty close in almost all categories. Id give slade the edge though. Some categories are arguable. I agree with this. They are pretty comparable in most areas sans intellect which Slade has hands down and possibly healing.

namorsubby
The ones who argue and dismiss anything placed in front of them are also the ones who never post feats. Smh

Slade has better strength feats IMO. Slade has certainly displayed superhuman strength in a comic. To suggest otherwise is utter stupidity, which is exactly what I expect from you Srank. Its LITERALLY stupid because I know you know better.

A human cannot rip the truck off a car underwater while drowning.

A human cannot kick off a reinforced steel door. Theyd break their leg

A human cannot pull a gorilla forward with one arm while it is attempting to hold its arm back with two. The gorilla would rip their arm off.


You are a damn fool.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by namorsubby
The ones who argue and dismiss anything placed in front of them are also the ones who never post feats. Smh

Slade has better strength feats IMO. Slade has certainly displayed superhuman strength in a comic. To suggest otherwise is utter stupidity, which is exactly what I expect from you Srank. Its LITERALLY stupid because I know you know better.

A human cannot rip the truck off a car underwater while drowning.

A human cannot kick off a reinforced steel door. Theyd break their leg

A human cannot pull a gorilla forward with one arm while it is attempting to hold its arm back with two. The gorilla would rip their arm off.


You are a damn fool.

I don't want to dismiss things, but you keep posting garbage and then lying about what is happening, and that needs to be addressed... over and over, ad nauseam because continue to bring up the same bs over and over again hoping that everyone forgot - for example - that a sarcophagus weights 230lbs.

Except humans can and do all of that in comics. We are comparing Slade to comic book humans, not real ones. If that was the criteria ever character would be superhuman.facepalm

So stupid.

namorsubby
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If the weak spot was missile proof... it wouldn't have been a weak spot... it would have just been a spot on the window. I'm not assuming anything, WE WERE DIRECTLY TOLD IT WAS F@CKING WEAK SPOT. Do you not know what the word weak means? The window broke because Slade hit a structural weak spot, his strength is completely irrelevant, it's spelled out for you in the f@cking issue. I assume your mom is writing your posts for you, because someone so stupid couldn't possibly know how to read or write, so ask her to read the dialogue to you while you stare at the pretty pictures.

If you run into a door and try to ram it, you are going to be stopped cold and hurt your shoulder. If you stand in front of a door and kick it, provided you know what you are doing, you'll kick the door open. Go try it. I'll wait for your results. facepalm It was a weak spot. The glass was also missle proof. If it isnt completely, then it isnt at all. Theres no way to talk around that Srank. Let it go.

Your arguement is essentially that the comic is wrong and youre right. It said missle proof, and you say not. It said weak spot, but YOU took it somewhere else by saying it was so weak that the spot was not missle proof. Which is the OPPOSITE if what it said. You do know what opposites are, right?

KingD19
A bulletproof vest can still be stabbed through. And a bullet can still penetrate it as well.

And anyone who knew about that weak spot with decent strength could accomplish the same thing.

I bet Karnak could do it, and he has no enhanced strength whatsoever.

namorsubby
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't want to dismiss things, but you keep posting garbage and then lying about what is happening, and that needs to be addressed... over and over, ad nauseam because continue to bring up the same bs over and over again hoping that everyone forgot - for example - that a sarcophagus weights 230lbs.

Except humans can and do all of that in comics. We are comparing Slade to comic book humans, not real ones. If that was the criteria ever character would be superhuman.facepalm

So stupid.

Show comic humans doing all those things, NOW. No more talking, SHOW SOMETHING.

Batman did not rip a locked trunk completely off, he did open a locked one. Slades feat took much more strength, so don't even try that. its freakin batman anyway, easily low level super in strength according to feats......which is what I go by.

juggernaut74
What is Blade and Slade's personel best strength feats in your opinions?

KingD19
The monster Blade held over his head had to weigh at least in the double digit tons range. And knocking a creature off of Spider-Man, who Spidey couldn't overpower with a simple knife toss is crazy.

namorsubby
Originally posted by KingD19
A bulletproof vest can still be stabbed through. And a bullet can still penetrate it as well.

And anyone who knew about that weak spot with decent strength could accomplish the same thing.

I bet Karnak could do it, and he has no enhanced strength whatsoever. If that sheet of glass was not missle proof there then it was not missle proof.....which is what was stated in the comic. Idk how anyone could argue against that

It was obviously a feat that took strength. I don't see how anyone would argue against that either. People with no superhuman strength cannot break missle proof glass.

KingD19
Originally posted by namorsubby
If that sheet of glass was not missle proof there then it was not missle proof.....which is what was stated in the comic. Idk how anyone could argue against that

It was obviously a feat that took strength. I don't see how anyone would argue against that either. People with no superhuman strength cannot break missle proof glass.

Aha, but that's where you're wrong. It was a weak point of such structural integrity, that all it took was a good smack to break it.

Karnak the Inhuman has no superhuman strength, but his ability to see weaknesses in anything is so great, he could have achieved the same thing. His feats prove this. And Karate Kid, a person with no superhuman strength has destroyed inertron by finding it's weak points. And it was stated to be missile proof, and it was, but a weak point is a weak point. A castle can be siege proof as well, but if there's a weak point in the walls to be exploited...well.

namorsubby
Originally posted by juggernaut74
What is Blade and Slade's personel best strength feats in your opinions? Id say all the door feats for Blade.

For Slade Id say the door, ripping off that locked trunk underwater, overpowering beast boy as a gorilla with one arm. Hes also made Diana, Donna Troy, and Lex in his power suit bleed

namorsubby
Originally posted by KingD19
Aha, but that's where you're wrong. It was a weak point of such structural integrity, that all it took was a good smack to break it.

Karnak the Inhuman has no superhuman strength, but his ability to see weaknesses in anything is so great, he could have achieved the same thing. His feats prove this. And Karate Kid, a person with no superhuman strength has destroyed inertron by finding it's weak points. And it was stated to be missile proof, and it was, but a weak point is a weak point. A castle can be siege proof as well, but if there's a weak point in the walls to be exploited...well. *sigh* What I'm trying to get you to understand is that you can't just say it wasn't missle proof there based off of Slade mentioning it had a weak spot. Your assumption cannot be taken as fact. If that glass couldn't withstand a missle, then it was not missle proof. This is undeniable.

Lol, you really brought KK into this. He can do anything.

KingD19
Originally posted by namorsubby
*sigh* What I'm trying to get you to understand is that you can't just say it wasn't missle proof there based off of Slade mentioning it had a weak spot. Your assumption cannot be taken as fact. If that glass couldn't withstand a missle, then it was not missle proof. This is undeniable.

Lol, you really brought KK into this. He can do anything.

Nowhere did I say the glass wasn't missile proof. I'm saying even objects that are *subject x* proof, can still be structurally compromised or overcome in certain situations.

A bulletproof vest for example. A bullet can still go through a bulletproof vest. And while that glass was stated to be missile proof, there's no guarantee it could stand up to more than one or two. Similar to how bulletproof cars can get shot through after a barrage of bullets.

And what I'm saying is that it had a weak spot, that Slade found and exploited. Someone who could find that weakspot, Karate Kid for example(not even pre-crisis), or Karnak, or Gamora, who can all pinpoint weakspots. Could also exploit it and get the same result. If you put an X on the weakspot and gave any street leveler a bat or something and said smack it, they'd get similar results as well.

namorsubby
Originally posted by KingD19
Nowhere did I say the glass wasn't missile proof. I'm saying even objects that are *subject x* proof, can still be structurally compromised or overcome in certain situations.

A bulletproof vest for example. A bullet can still go through a bulletproof vest. And while that glass was stated to be missile proof, there's no guarantee it could stand up to more than one or two. Similar to how bulletproof cars can get shot through after a barrage of bullets.

And what I'm saying is that it had a weak spot, that Slade found and exploited. Someone who could find that weakspot, Karate Kid for example(not even pre-crisis), or Karnak, or Gamora, who can all pinpoint weakspots. Could also exploit it and get the same result. If you put an X on the weakspot and gave any street leveler a bat or something and said smack it, they'd get similar results as well. Hmm.....thats actually pretty reasonable. Eh

They could IF they were strong enough. Idk their exact strengths. I'm just saying.

As far as what you were saying about Blade vs Slade, I don't agree. I think they are both closely match in almost all areas. Slade definitively takes it in Healing and intellect imo. I think Slade has better strength feats as well as a slight edge in the other categories. Strength is probably the most arguable.

KingD19
I think Blade's highest strength feats outclass Slade's by enough that strength is in the Daywalker's favor.

He has some impressive speedblitzes and reaction times as well.

I never doubted Slade has better intellect, although I think Blade's highest healing feats are pretty impressive, but at the moment I can't recall them, so Slade takes that up until I can.

On the subject of the glass though, Karnak, Gamora, and KK all have some pretty damn impressive weak point exploitations under their belt. Like hurting super strong/durable opponents with precision strikes.

juggernaut74
Blade's best healing feat is the one where he was standing amidst some flames with bare skin exposed. Slade has some uber ones like getting his heart sliced in half.

namorsubby
I think Slades door feat was better than blades door feats. It was just so casual. His door had no hinges, but had metal bars to reinforce it. The door came completely off instantly and crumpled and he kept his stride. The locked hood too. He ripped it clean off meaning he ripped the metal parts attaching it to the car.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by namorsubby
I think Slades door feat was better than blades door feats. It was just so casual. His door had no hinges, but had metal bars to reinforce it. The door came completely off instantly and crumpled and he kept his stride. The locked hood too. He ripped it clean off meaning he ripped the metal parts attaching it to the car. Yea those are nice but Blade crumpled a metal elevator door by forcing it open.

namorsubby
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Yea those are nice but Blade crumpled a metal elevator door by forcing it open. Which one was that?

juggernaut74
It's on the first page.

KingD19
Elevator feat - http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladeadamantiumodachi2.jpg

Slade's a door(kicks it in and crumples it) - http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladekicks.jpg

Another steel door - http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladestrengthSOF2.jpg

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Not unless they do not know where the weak spot is as Slade could deduce. Maybe he seen cheap manufacturing like this before or just noticed a slight difference.

The point is that it is vague and can be argued IMO. But we can agree to disagree. Now THAT is a large assumptions, it's a prison designed to keep in metahumans, there isn't any reason why they would use cheap manufacturing if meta's could just waltz right out of there.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by namorsubby
It was a weak spot. The glass was also missle proof. If it isnt completely, then it isnt at all. Theres no way to talk around that Srank. Let it go.

Your arguement is essentially that the comic is wrong and youre right. It said missle proof, and you say not. It said weak spot, but YOU took it somewhere else by saying it was so weak that the spot was not missle proof. Which is the OPPOSITE if what it said. You do know what opposites are, right? I'd have to partially agree with Srank's quote that Slade did indeed hit a weak spot

But you take even the weakest spot on missile proof glass and it would be significantly hard to break considering Belle Reve was designed to keep meta humans in.

And even so, Slade's own strength which is enough to casually crumple a reinforced steel door, combined with his ability to sense weak spots, means his hits can cause more damage than most street levelers can Blade included

Daredevil1
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladejumps2.jpg

This one I like as it appears Blade casually rips it out with raw strength instead of kick striking one. Its worthless IMO to try and say one or the other is better since there differently done with different strengths.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by Daredevil1
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladejumps2.jpg

This one I like as it appears Blade casually rips it out with raw strength instead of kick striking one. Its worthless IMO to try and say one or the other is better since there differently done with different strengths. It looks like he's ripping the a door off the hinges

Daredevil1
Leg strength for a super jump. Thanks to poster jugg74

Originally posted by juggernaut74
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladejumpin.jpg

sCOURGE_0
Looks like he's falling, how do we know he didn't just jump off of a tree or a building or something?

Daredevil1
I once posted a jumping contest thread if he did cheat juggs74 has some explaining to do. But it appears he just jumped since he says I jumped.

sCOURGE_0
I know that he says he jumped, did he jump off the ground? Did he jump off of a building? Did he jump off of a tree? It seems pretty vague imo

YFZ 350
Considering the SHEILD agents were freaking out I'd say he did jump.

namorsubby
The reason I say Slade has the best door feat is because his door was a metal door reinforced with bars at a HIVE headquarters and it was casually done while walking. Not an elevator door or one with hinges. Blades was impressive too though.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Considering the SHEILD agents were freaking out I'd say he did jump. Once again, no one denied that he jumped, did he jump off the ground? Did he jump off of something else? How does the SHIELD Agents flipping out mean anything? They weren't even aware that Blade was in the air until he yelled at them.

YFZ 350
He jumped out of a hot air balloon.

-Pr-
If nothing is suggested about where he jumped from, then the most likely scenario (vertical leap from the ground), has to be the assumed action.

YFZ 350
Originally posted by -Pr-
If nothing is suggested about where he jumped from, then the most likely scenario (vertical leap from the ground), has to be the assumed action. I agree.

Silent Master
Originally posted by -Pr-
If nothing is suggested about where he jumped from, then the most likely scenario (vertical leap from the ground), has to be the assumed action.

Sounds reasonable.

sCOURGE_0
Well if someone gave the issue number then we can see for ourselves

Daredevil1
Originally posted by -Pr-
If nothing is suggested about where he jumped from, then the most likely scenario (vertical leap from the ground), has to be the assumed action.

Agreed.

juggernaut74
That scan also indicates a nice speed/skill feat because he dodges the machinegun fire with a flip and followed by a sword slice mid-air for the kill.

sCOURGE_0
Anyone have an issue number?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Anyone have an issue number? I think it's from his 2nd ongoing series by Bart Sears in the early 2000's. snoopdogg used abbreviated issue numbers in his scan links but this one does not.

Daredevil1
Ha! Blade has a similar kick what appears to be a steel door with no hinges displayed as well just like the Slade one. And the door appears to handle bullets pretty well, as Blades kick did much more damage to it then the bullets did.......LOL


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladekicks.jpg

After seeing his other feats like digging himself from being buried and his super jump. Blade seems to have and edge in strength by a hair it's very close that's for sure.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Ha! Blade has a similar kick what appears to be a steel door with no hinges displayed as well just like the Slade one. And the door appears to handle bullets pretty well, as Blades kick did much more damage to it then the bullets did.......LOL


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladekicks.jpg

After seeing his other feats like digging himself from being buried and his super jump. Blade seems to have and edge in strength by a hair it's very close that's for sure. Hinges could of been on the other side. And Slade's door was bolted in and had a metal support beam, Blades didn't

Daredevil1
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Hinges could of been on the other side. And Slade's door was bolted in and had a metal support beam, Blades didn't


If you look at the other side of the door when it hits the wall, no metal attachments are shown, to be attached to the other side. Plus its not like the Slade one we see it bolted in or even metal support beams.


I doubt I'll convince you but pretty much the same to me.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by Daredevil1
If you look at the other side of the door when it hits the wall, no metal attachments are shown, to be attached to the other side. Plus its not like the Slade one we see it bolted in or even metal support beams.


I doubt I'll convince you but pretty much the same to me. There aren't any support beams and the door isn't bolted in, most likely the artist didn't put enough detail into giving the door hinges

And yes, we do know the door that Slade kicked was bolted in

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc384/King_Bradley/sladekickboltdoor.png

ThereIsHope
What about that missle resistant window he broke, when his daughter Rose went after him? He did mention that he found its weak spot though. None the less its an impressive feat.

pym-ftw
Holy Hell,

Missle resistant glass is built to a specific size, each panel isn't tested
Thus a weakspot can exist

Also the idea of a military using substandard products isn't an assumption, the idea the aren't would be, based on real world experience...

Also Slade overpowering a gorilla is a nice feat of combat skill and leverage not brute strength...

sCOURGE_0
No one said there isn't a weak spot, you'd have to be an idiot to say otherwise becausse it's right on panel

The only thing that was disputed is how weak the weakspot is.

There are no prisons in real life to contain metahumans, there's no reason to assume that with missile proof glass the weakest spot is as hard as paper machete, it's more plausable that even the weakest spot would be fairly strong.

pym-ftw
But there are, we call them zoos

The rest you said is speculations, if the weakspot is a bubble it could be incredibly weak...that said guessing what the density of a weak spot is is asinine.

sCOURGE_0
Most animals that in Zoo's have no intention of escaping, so that's a flawed comparison.

You're right, speculating the density of the weak spot is asinine, but it's fair to assume the weakspot is fairly strong or you'd have meta's walking out of Belle Reve and the prison having to replace the glass on a daily basis.

pym-ftw
A weakspot is still to vague to use as a strength feat

sCOURGE_0
A missile proof window isn't, Slade still shattered one. A strength feat isn't being discussed, a striking feat is, and if Slade can use weakspots to that extent it just proves his striking power is greater than anything Blade has to offer.

KingD19
You realize he only seems to strike harder because he knows where to hit for the most effect right?

KingD19
Just found some more feats for Blade that makes this fight a lot harder for Slade.

sCOURGE_0
Originally posted by KingD19
You realize he only seems to strike harder because he knows where to hit for the most effect right? Irrelevant, weather it's raw power or technique he's still able to do more damage with strikes than Blade and most street levelers can

KingD19
I'm not arguing that Slade can't deliver more punishment with strikes than Blade. I'm pointing out that what you said was wrong.

You said his striking power is greater, and it isn't. It seems that way because he can find weak points, but with Blade's speed he probably won't be able to use it as effectively as against a window that can't fight back.

sCOURGE_0
His striking power is greater anyway because he still one shotted a reinforced steel door that was bolted into steel support beams. So far no one has shown a striking feat for Blade that compares.

StiltmanFTW
He crushed a Mindless One's head.

YFZ 350
That's right he cracked a Mindless ones skull with a punch and they are made of some super dense rock material.

Daredevil1
Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
His striking power is greater anyway because he still one shotted a reinforced steel door that was bolted into steel support beams. So far no one has shown a striking feat for Blade that compares.

Doesn't seem like it especially since the other side is different then what you circled with different dots on areas that don't match.

I think your reaching a bit to try and get some type of superiority that isn't really there.

Daredevil1
Stilt or YFZ you got a scan of that feat?

StiltmanFTW
It's in Blade's thread. One sec...

StiltmanFTW
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladeadamantiumodachi.jpg

credit to snoop

KingD19
Wasn't even a full punch. It was a palm strike pushing the Mindless One, which means a full punch probably would have done a lot more damage. Especially if he could wind up for it.

That fight is where he also crushes elevator doors with no problem.

Daredevil1
Nice but vague on how durable exactly that is?

juggernaut74
Well they were strong enough to chip at Thing's hide with punches at one point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindless_Ones

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Daredevil1
If you look at the other side of the door when it hits the wall, no metal attachments are shown, to be attached to the other side. Plus its not like the Slade one we see it bolted in or even metal support beams.


I doubt I'll convince you but pretty much the same to me. Good eyes, there don't seem to be any hinges on either side of the door.

namorsubby
When the door is kicked down you can clearly see holes in the side for metal bars to slide in. in others words, a reinforced metal door.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Holy Hell,

Missle resistant glass is built to a specific size, each panel isn't tested
Thus a weakspot can exist

Also the idea of a military using substandard products isn't an assumption, the idea the aren't would be, based on real world experience...

Also Slade overpowering a gorilla is a nice feat of combat skill and leverage not brute strength...
Pulling a gorilla forward with one arm while it is holding your arm back with both arms isn't a strength feat? Really? How does skill come into play when pulling a gorilla? Just skill, but no strength required, right? You got to be kidding me.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by namorsubby
When the door is kicked down you can clearly see holes in the side for metal bars to slide in. in others words, a reinforced metal door.


Pulling a gorilla forward with one arm while it is holding your arm back with both arms isn't a strength feat? Really? How does skill come into play when pulling a gorilla? Just skill, but no strength required, right? You got to be kidding me. You have a scan of that gorilla feat?

StiltmanFTW
It was Beast Boy.

namorsubby
Originally posted by namorsubby
Lol he didn't even show the scan before it where cap was struggling against the door before he got through it. Much less impressive than just kicking through one in stride.

Here are a few for Slade:

Throws sarcophigi
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/NewTitansAnnual08-52.jpg

Beastboy can't hold back Slades one arm as a gorilla
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/TT46-19.jpg

Breaks concrete with feet after jumping off a building
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/NightwingV2814.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/NightwingV2815.jpg

Lifts and throws gorilla
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/02402.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/02403.jpg

Climb a wall by driving his fingers into it
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/Detective708-25.jpg

rips locked trunk door completely off underwater
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-24-06.jpg
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throws two daggers, sending two men airborne. Upheaves about five from his body effortlessly
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-37-13.jpg
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Silent Master
Originally posted by pym-ftw
A weakspot is still to vague to use as a strength feat

I agree, if he could have broken the glass on striking power alone, he wouldn't have needed to use the weak spot.

juggernaut74
That trunk feat is nice considering he was submerged imo. As for the gorilla feat it could be possible that he just flung Robin into Beastboy?

namorsubby
Saying he couldn't because he didn't is an assumption. If the glass was not missle proof, the glass couldn't be called missle proof.

Silent Master
If he could of broken it himself, there wouldn't have been any point of mentioning the weak spot.

namorsubby
Originally posted by juggernaut74
That trunk feat is nice considering he was submerged imo. As for the gorilla feat it could be possible that he just flung Robin into Beastboy? He pulled them both into each other, hitting their heads together.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If he could of broken it himself, there wouldn't have been any point of mentioning the weak spot.
You ever heard of the term "work smarter, not harder"? Well, thats pretty much what Slades all about. Doesn't mean he was incapable of breaking any section, or that that section itself wasn't missle proof. You can't base your stance on your own inference and assumptions.

Silent Master
roll eyes (sarcastic)

SamZED
Beast Boy's animal forms are way stronger than the actual animals too. Very impressive.

YFZ 350
Yea it was nice.

Daredevil1
That is a nice feat Gorrilas are damn strong. How is Slade gliding or floating on the next panel?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by Daredevil1
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/Bladejumps2.jpg

This one I like as it appears Blade casually rips it out with raw strength instead of kick striking one. Its worthless IMO to try and say one or the other is better since there differently done with different strengths. I'd say using raw strength is more impressive than using a kick strike. That's just me.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by SamZED
Beast Boy's animal forms are way stronger than the actual animals too. Very impressive.

Even though you're probably correct, you still haven't proved that stick out tongue

Daredevil1
Originally posted by Daredevil1
That is a nice feat Gorrilas are damn strong. How is Slade gliding or floating on the next panel?

Anyone know?

StiltmanFTW
Seems like he just jumped to avoid Nightwing's "flying kick" stick out tongue

Daredevil1
Odd looking jump.

StiltmanFTW
Yep.

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