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The three, distantly related assassins from Ubisoft's now classic games. They find themselves in Gotham with a small problem, they believe that Batman, Catwoman, and Nightwing are all Templars, so the three come together to work out a plan to assassinate these three highly dangerous targets. All are at their peaks of skill, with all of their gear except none of the assassins has the Apple of Eden.

Which team wins this, the assassin family or Gotham's protectors (well, maybe Catwoman isn't a protector 24/7)?

All of their gear?

Connor shoots them. Then Ezio shoots them.

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The batman and nightwing wear Kevlar.

Team 2 easily.

Is team 2 from the comic books?

Team 2, easily, in an ultra King Kamehameha stomp.

The assassins have nothing that can take down the modern tactics, armor, and weapons of team 2.

I thought they were from the Arkham games. If they're from comics then yeah they stomp epic.

assuming Bruce, Dick and Selina have the comic book feats, this a damn stomp in team 2's favor

It's the Movie/TV Show versions of team 2

Originally posted by jmoul
It's the Movie/TV Show versions of team 2

Team 2 WTF stomps, then.

At least make it Nolan Batman to give Team 1 some sort of chance. Because Halle Catwoman is superhuman, and I honestly don't remember Nightwing being in anything aside from some animated movies.

Dead god....don't ever use Berrywoman.

Movie/TV versions is a very broad term. I simply used the best(physically) one, lol.

I was referring to Nolan movies, except for Nightwing, since he hasn't had a movie yet.

Oh, Team 1 for a majority then.

Unless team1 is aware Bruce=Bats, they have to draw him out into the open rather than sneak attack. That means team2 shows up prepared for a fight and probably have a jumping tank/bike tank nearby in case things get rough.

Opposing sides always have basic knowledge of one another. And Batman isn't gonna be fighting as Bruce Wayne. He's gonna fight as Batman.

Team 1 for the majority.

But inuniverse, no one knows bats is bruce. How far does basic knowledge go?

Originally posted by jmoul
The three, distantly related assassins from Ubisoft's now classic games. They find themselves in Gotham with a small problem, they believe that Batman, Catwoman, and Nightwing are all Templars, so the three come together to work out a plan to assassinate these three highly dangerous targets. All are at their peaks of skill, with all of their gear except none of the assassins has the Apple of Eden.

Which team wins this, the assassin family or Gotham's protectors (well, maybe Catwoman isn't a protector 24/7)? Originally posted by jmoul
It's the Movie/TV Show versions of team 2 Originally posted by jmoul
I was referring to Nolan movies, except for Nightwing, since he hasn't had a movie yet.

Damn son!

Plan ahead.

-So Catwoman dies.

-Nightwing is undecided considering the battleground. But Joseph Gordon-Levitt is dead.

-And Bats....well. Considering how he dodged assault rifle fire and hides like the best of them. He can take this.

They all use Eagle Vision to find him regardless of him trying to hide. He'll be a bright gold target in a muted world.

And his skill is crap compared to them, also they have absolutely no issue killing him.

Originally posted by KingD19
They all use Eagle Vision to find him regardless of him trying to hide. He'll be a bright gold target in a muted world.

And his skill is crap compared to them, also they have absolutely no issue killing him.

Ah yes...Eagle Vision.

Bats is screwed. 3 on 1 will be his downfall.

Nightwing would be just like Bats without as much gear?

Can Noland!Batman really equal an assassin one-on-one?

No. The only people Batman fought who had any skill were Ra's, and Bane, who was more unstoppable than skilled.

Any of the assassin's would dominate Bruce 1 v 1. All 3 of them at once is murder.

Nightwing solos

Nightwing's an unknown.

Originally posted by KingD19
Nightwing's an unknown.

An unknown that have twin pistols, and no issue with killing people, Nightwing pulls this one home.

A movie version of Nightwing though?

Under the red hood?

Originally posted by Utrigita
An unknown that have twin pistols, and no issue with killing people, Nightwing pulls this one home.

That wasn't Nightwing. That was Jason Todd aka Red Hood.

Nightwing was Batman's sidekick and they chased down Todd together.

Even Nolan Batman would solo

Comiuc book stephanie brown would stomp them

Animated Bruce Selnia and Dick would slaughter them

The assassins are pathetic

Originally posted by KingD19
No. The only people Batman fought who had any skill were Ra's, and Bane, who was more unstoppable than skilled.

Any of the assassin's would dominate Bruce 1 v 1. All 3 of them at once is murder. Are you high? Haythen was a Grand Master of the Assassin Order before going to the Templars and he was beaten up by two thugs

The Assasins suck

Really? Cause the Assassins have taking out dozens of soldiers covered in armour and/or armed with weapons/firearms without taking a single hit. (Canon too, so says the sync bar)

Originally posted by KingD19
That wasn't Nightwing. That was Jason Todd aka Red Hood.

Nightwing was Batman's sidekick and they chased down Todd together.

Ahh my bad, I was pretty sure that Jason Todd at some point toke the identity of Nightwing and as such we could also use his feats.

No, Todd died as Robin, came back as Red Hood.

And the assassin's have effortlessly killed some of the most skilled warriors of their time.

Scourge is just butthurt.

Originally posted by KingD19
No, Todd died as Robin, came back as Red Hood.

And the assassin's have effortlessly killed some of the most skilled warriors of their time.

Scourge is just butthurt. Yeah they killed some of the most skilled warriors in THEIR universe

Haytham Kenway was one of the most skilled assassins and templars and guess what? He got his kicked by two thugs

The best in the AC universe = can't take two thugs

Nolan's Batman solos.

Hell a normal human with a hand gun could kill Connor Ezio and Altair with ease.

Is that why all the guys with guns never killed them?

A normal human with a hand gun could kill Nolan-verse Batman and Catwoman. A lot easier than the Assassin's because the assassin's have crazy skills.

Originally posted by KingD19
Is that why all the guys with guns never killed them?

A normal human with a hand gun could kill Nolan-verse Batman and Catwoman. A lot easier than the Assassin's because the assassin's have crazy skills. How many people with guns actually tried to kill them? Moron

Even Haytham never used his gun on Connor

And Batman and Catwoman fought guys with guns all the time in the Nolanverse, hell in DKR Batman took like 9 guys out with guns when he was in the sewers
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Not only that but the guns in AC are primative, you have to reload after every shot, nothing compared to automatics and shot guns

Derp...

About 1/20 guards tried killing Ezio with guns, 1/4 guards tried to kill Connor with guns. Even Desmond, who got all of his skills from the Assassins, takes on several armed guards at once all with modern handguns.
IIRC Bats takes out gunmen with stealth etc (only remembering DK).




Bane was a better fighter than Bats the first time (No not just because of his resistance, he did much better in combat) and equal to him the second time. So just like with Ras, one peak human with high combat skills is a match for Bruce.

Now Altair was trained to kill since he was 11.. Ezio at the age of 65 and noticeable far weaker than his peak self could still defeat 3 Chinese swordsmen only using a metal poker.. Haytham was a trained killer, great fighter and a master swordsman trained at the age of 8.. Connor was able to get the upper hand on Haytham which was after being critically injured from being in the splash zone of a cannonball.. twice.
They're all peak human+, combat masters (even in a highly weakened state), take on larger numbers and greater threats and wield better combat weapons.


I'm not saying that individually any Assassin would easily stomp, but I cant see them losing to this Batman especially not in a pure fight.

Originally posted by BloodRain
About 1/20 guards tried killing Ezio with guns, 1/4 guards tried to kill Connor with guns. Even Desmond, who got all of his skills from the Assassins, takes on several armed guards at once all with modern handguns.
IIRC Bats takes out gunmen with stealth etc (only remembering DK).




Bane was a better fighter than Bats the first time (No not just because of his resistance, he did much better in combat) and equal to him the second time. So just like with Ras, one peak human with high combat skills is a match for Bruce.

Now Altair was trained to kill since he was 11.. Ezio at the age of 65 and noticeable far weaker than his peak self could still defeat 3 Chinese swordsmen only using a metal poker.. Haytham was a trained killer, great fighter and a master swordsman trained at the age of 8.. Connor was able to get the upper hand on Haytham which was after being critically injured from being in the splash zone of a cannonball.. twice.
They're all peak human+, combat masters (even in a highly weakened state), take on larger numbers and greater threats and wield better combat weapons.


I'm not saying that individually any Assassin would easily stomp, but I cant see them losing to this Batman especially not in a pure fight. None of the Assassins can dodge bullets, none of them can even dodge the line of fire, when Connor gets attacked by gunmen the only thing he can use do is use someone as a human shield

Haytham was a trained killer and a master swordsman, who got his ass kicked by two thugs

Connor got physically restrained by Charles Lee and put up against a wall

They are all peak human combat masters, that get their asses kicked by one of two guys. Any instance of the assassins taking out more than a few guys at a time are gameplay mechanics, canoncially speaking none of the Assassins can beat a large group of enemies.

The only exception is in Revalations when Ezio fought a large group of templars, he killed about 8-9 of them but ended up getting his ass kicked and captured.

Bane was only a better fighter because Bruce was out of the game for so long, once he got his nut up he ended up beating Bane, and Bane was strong enough to punch through a concrete pillar, physically he's far above any of the Assassins.

Nolan's Batman can take out gunmen with ease, Nolan's Batman doesn't get his ass kicked by two thugs or get physically restrained and put up against a wall by someone like Charles Lee, Nolan's Batman beat Bane who was physically strong enough to punch through a concrete pillar, something none of the Assassins could do in a million years.

You put Connor, Haytham, Ezio and Altair 4 on 1 against someone with a handgun and you would end up with 4 dead Assassins.

Originally posted by KingD19
I thought they were from the Arkham games. If they're from comics then yeah they stomp epic. LOL Arkham City Bruce was able to beat 20+ dudes in H2H combat some of them on the TITAN drug, he'd decimate the Assasins also

Originally posted by Curbstomp_9
LOL Arkham City Bruce was able to beat 20+ dudes in H2H combat some of them on the TITAN drug, he'd decimate the Assasins also

This isn't Arkham City Batman, genius. It's Nolanverse. Nolanverse who is painfully human in comparison to the peak/superhuman assassin's.

I didn't say it was, I was responding to your post, even Nolan Batman would wreck these chump Assasins

Hahahaha. In a straight fight? No. And he can't sneak up on them either. Eagle Vision let's them sense anybody in a several hundred foot radius, and Batman, Nightwing and Catwoman are gonna be glowing bright gold.

In a straight fight Haytham got beaten up by 2 guys, Connor got pwned by Charles Lee,

A guy with a gun would kill Altair, Ezio, Connor and Haytham

Cry moar

Originally posted by Curbstomp_9
None of the Assassins can dodge bullets, none of them can even dodge the line of fire, when Connor gets attacked by gunmen the only thing he can use do is use someone as a human shield

Haytham was a trained killer and a master swordsman, who got his ass kicked by two thugs

Connor got physically restrained by Charles Lee and put up against a wall

They are all peak human combat masters, that get their asses kicked by one of two guys. Any instance of the assassins taking out more than a few guys at a time are gameplay mechanics, canoncially speaking none of the Assassins can beat a large group of enemies.

The only exception is in Revalations when Ezio fought a large group of templars, he killed about 8-9 of them but ended up getting his ass kicked and captured.

Bane was only a better fighter because Bruce was out of the game for so long, once he got his nut up he ended up beating Bane, and Bane was strong enough to punch through a concrete pillar, physically he's far above any of the Assassins.

Nolan's Batman can take out gunmen with ease, Nolan's Batman doesn't get his ass kicked by two thugs or get physically restrained and put up against a wall by someone like Charles Lee, Nolan's Batman beat Bane who was physically strong enough to punch through a concrete pillar, something none of the Assassins could do in a million years.

You put Connor, Haytham, Ezio and Altair 4 on 1 against someone with a handgun and you would end up with 4 dead Assassins.


Batman can't dodge bullets either.. he's only human

No he wasn't. All we see is him being brought in with two guys holding his arms, no other circumstances besides that, proof of this being Connor being in the exact same situation with 4 guys and him coming out the victor. Do you mean the scene where Lee chokes Connor not long after he was knocked out from a baton strike to the head, being thrown in prison and taking two more baton strikes to the head, lose consciousness again mere minutes before that meeting with Lee. So Lee, a soldier since the age of 12 who rose to the rank of lieutenant by 19 and later general, vs Connor right after suffering two concussions from three blows to the head.. this is the scene you're talking about?

/Canonly/ all the Assassins face large numbers and survive = they can handle it. Theres also the fact that some missions require you to limit health loss or be untouched by large groups in order to get 100% sync, which is canon as syncing means doing exactly what the ancestors did. Speaking of, you get desynchronized taking damage as Altair because he's never canonly taken any damage.. all the groups he's faced, even King Richard's 8 top guards surrounding him.. not one hit.

Let me clear up that 'exception' for you; Ezio after taking an arrow to the arm was sure enough of his skills to take on 50 guards with armour, weapons and crossbows.. not run, hide and sneak around like he could have easily done.. take on 50 head on. Id question what you were watching as its plain to anyone that he only lost because he was distracted by a schizophrenic hallucination

No, once he got his act together he was equalling Bane and only won because he cut his pain-mask (Bane didnt crack the pillar, he punched into the plaster/whatever was around the rock as we can see the solid rock underneath the now peeling exterior.. on the other hand Assassins can break off thick metal locks with a punch).


Yeah taking out gunmen means nothing if they're not shooting. But alright, compare;
BB- Bats hides so no one gets a shot at him.
DK- Bats disarms 3 men, only one that has the gun pointed at him.
DK- Bats surprises and disarms 3 guys with no one shooting, and the second they shoot he dives behind cover, only to surprise and disarm 3 more with no one shooting, again.
DKR- Bats stealth disarms in the dark and uses the shadows to hide from the gunshots.

Ezio- Takes on/disarms gunmen/crossbowmen in open combat. \
Connor- Takes on/disarms gunmen in open combat, uses meat shields to evade gunfire. }Not modern guns for these two but hey, guns are guns. With its accuracy and number of people armed, one shot is all thats needed.
Desmond- Takes on/disarms gunmen in open combat, uses meat shields to evade gunfire. }Modern handguns.
Desmond- Disarms a gun pointed at him.
Desmond- When fired at from the guy above he, like Bats, dives behind cover.

How is this different to Batman?

Not even sure what them facing gunmen means in this match.. only Altair, Ezio and Connor have guns here so..?



The best combat feats for Batman:
-Taking out 6 prisoners while receiving some hits before his Ninja training.
-Taking out 8 thugs as Batman.
-Taking out 4 trained ninjas.
-Equalling Ras and Bane in combat.

Those feats compared to the Assassins:
-Connor, after taking heavy damage from two cannonballs colliding right beside him, defeated an assassin trained to use a sword since he was a child.
-Ezio easily takes on a greater amount (kills 11, directly engages 16, challenges 50) and tougher groups of armed and trained guards.. and with a fresh arrow wound.
^He also beat 4 Chinese trained swordsmen in his old, greatly weakened state.
-Altair took on 9 swordsmen at once which included a highly ranking soldier, a captain of the knights and the lieutenant of the Crusades.
^Then took on 9 Al Mualims.. 9 combat/sword masters at once.
^^Both feats without taking a single hit.

The Assassins take both crowd control and more skilled opponents.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Batman can't dodge bullets either.. he's only human

Are you talking about the Nolanverse Batman, comic Batman or animation Batman?

Noland for this thread.

Though have the other versions been able to dodge bullets? I mean he's always peak+ to low superhuman right?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Noland for this thread.

Though have the other versions been able to dodge bullets? I mean he's always peak+ to low superhuman right?

Yes, both the comic and the animated version are capable of dodging bullets, in Batman Under the Red Hood Batman dodged a fired bullet with his back turned.

Just saw the Red Hood scene, and its weird, cause Batman was never meant to be that high above any human limits.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Just saw the Red Hood scene, and its weird, cause Batman was never meant to be that high above any human limits.

True, however the most "human" Batman is the nolanverse one.

And I said on the first page it is Nolan batman.

Yes I know.

I was merely asking BloodRain if he was under the impression that no version of Batman would be capable of dodging bullets.

agreed with sCOURGE_0 and Curbstomp_9

ezio and altair cannot even beat jack reacher, james bond or john mcclane. and we all knows these characters would lose to mr miyagi, jason bourne and batman

ezio displays no better speed than jack reacher or rambo during his fight against the templar army, and we all knows miyagi and bourne would beat reacher and rambo

bane would be too much for them and bruce beat bane at the end

Originally posted by BloodRain
Not even sure what them facing gunmen means in this match.. only Altair, Ezio and Connor have guns here so..?



The best combat feats for Batman:
-Taking out 6 prisoners while receiving some hits before his Ninja training.
-Taking out 8 thugs as Batman.
-Taking out 4 trained ninjas.
-Equalling Ras and Bane in combat.

Those feats compared to the Assassins:
-Connor, after taking heavy damage from two cannonballs colliding right beside him, defeated an assassin trained to use a sword since he was a child.
-Ezio easily takes on a greater amount (kills 11, directly engages 16, challenges 50) and tougher groups of armed and trained guards.. and with a fresh arrow wound.
^He also beat 4 Chinese trained swordsmen in his old, greatly weakened state.
-Altair took on 9 swordsmen at once which included a highly ranking soldier, a captain of the knights and the lieutenant of the Crusades.
^Then took on 9 Al Mualims.. 9 combat/sword masters at once.
^^Both feats without taking a single hit.

The Assassins take both crowd control and more skilled opponents.

but lubbub16 from reddit said that nolan batman would beat ezio

your answers are wrong here