Superman Vs Iron Man

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ThereIsHope
Current Superman


Vs


Iron Man


Who wins?

VastoLord1234
Obviously superman.
Current Superman is new 52 superman, he bench pressed earths weight, 5 days in a row, without sunlight.

Tony Stark
Unless this is EXTREMIS or if Tony has access to kryptonite Superman wins the nigh majority.

Galan007
Tony hacks him. thumb up

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
Tony hacks him. thumb up
laughing out loud

753
obvisouly, SM stomps. doesnt really matter which were using

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by 753
obvisouly, SM stomps. doesnt really matter which were using


1. "Obviously" isn't spelled that way.


2. Doesn't matter which Iron Man or doesn't matter which Superman?


For it's worth pointing out that the Extremis armor Iron Man was wearing a relatively short while ago was quite similar to the nanotech that defeated Superman AND his cousin Kara in Superman issues 2-6 last year.



Specify that this is Extremis Iron Man and Tony has a chance, even knowing nothing at all about Clark.

If Tony is granted the knowledge that yellow sunlight powers Superman and that red sunlight weakens him, odds start to close near 50/50.

If Tony is given that knowledge and even a little bit of prep time, Extremis armor or no, the odds shift in his favor.

Odekahn
Unless this is Superman right after the Return of Superman storyline, supes stomps.

SquallX
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
1. "Obviously" isn't spelled that way.


2. Doesn't matter which Iron Man or doesn't matter which Superman?


For it's worth pointing out that the Extremis armor Iron Man was wearing a relatively short while ago was quite similar to the nanotech that defeated Superman AND his cousin Kara in Superman issues 2-6 last year.



Specify that this is Extremis Iron Man and Tony has a chance, even knowing nothing at all about Clark.

If Tony is granted the knowledge that yellow sunlight powers Superman and that red sunlight weakens him, odds start to close near 50/50.

If Tony is given that knowledge and even a little bit of prep time, Extremis armor or no, the odds shift in his favor.

Unless Tony pulls some big shit out of his ass, prep is not helping.

keiththegreat
Lol spite thread superman stomps

753
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
1. "Obviously" isn't spelled that way.



derp derp

thanks for enlightening me, buddy

neither one matters. the only version of SM that would defintely lose to IM is that original golden age incarnation that didnt even fly.

orly?

by nanotech that beat SM, are you talking about that thing that was constantly rebuilding a planet with all its multicellular living organisms on it? is that it? IM's tech is on par with that?

knowledge of SM's yellow/red sunlight thing huh? please spell the scenario out for me

a little prep. I see. how long does IM need to prep for so he can beat SM 6/10?

bluewaterrider
I'm not sure you're aware of what Tony with a little bit of knowledge and prep time has been able to accomplish.

Try to imagine a fight more one-sided AGAINST Tony, conceptually, than the following, and watch how well Tony actually acquits himself:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026850
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026852
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026853
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026854
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026856
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026857
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026858
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026860
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026861
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026863
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026864
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026865
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026867
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026868
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026869

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by 753


knowledge of SM's yellow/red sunlight thing huh? please spell the scenario out for me

a little prep. I see. how long does IM need to prep for so he can beat SM 6/10?



How long did he need against Magneto here?

Blocking access to sunlight would require far less tech innovation than the following took:



http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026850
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026852
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026853
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026854
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026856
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026857
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026858
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026860
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026861
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026863
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026864
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026865
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026867
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026868
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026869

753
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I'm not sure you're aware of what Tony with a little bit of knowledge and prep time has been able to accomplish.

Try to imagine a fight more one-sided AGAINST Tony, conceptually, than the following, and watch how well Tony actually acquits himself:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026850
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026852
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026853
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026854
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026856
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026857
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026858
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026860
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026861
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026863
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026864
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026865
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026867
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026868
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14026869 you're kidding right? an unprepped magneto adapting on the fly was outperforming IM with massive prep (a satellite network to draw energy from the magnetic field of jupiter and a bunch of lesser toys). story made it clear mags was on the rise while IM was going down and it was the blow to mags resolve caused by the PF destruction of a planet that cost him the fight.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by 753
you're kidding right? an unprepped magneto adapting on the fly was outperforming IM with massive prep (a satellite network to draw energy from the magnetic field of jupiter and a bunch of lesser toys). story made it clear mags was on the rise while IM was going down and it was the blow to mags resolve caused by the PF destruction of a planet that cost him the fight.


That's quite true, but notice that Magneto had to tap into MORE power in order to reverse the battle against Tony, as well as take out his tech FIRST.
He didn't deal with Tony conventionally.

And Superman assaulted by red sunlight or with his access to yellow sun cut off wouldn't have the same recourse. He'd be getting weaker, not stronger.

abhilegend
He grew so short of strength after getting cut off of sun for five days that he finally sweated for first time in his life. He was just bench-pressing Earth's weight BTW, no biggie for blue. Thor fishing a giant snake is a better feat for him.

753
@bluwaterider

true, but SM has superspeed and a reasonable degree of tolerance to red starlight (assuming he couldnt briefly leave the battlefield to sunamp), which imo would still grant him the edge, specially considering the initial gap in their durabilities. besides, there is the matter of just how much prep IM would need to exploit those weaknesses successfully. I suppose tony at his best does have a chance, but he still wouldnt take a majority.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by 753
@bluwaterider

there is the matter of just how much prep IM would need to exploit those weaknesses successfully. I suppose tony at his best does have a chance, but he still wouldnt take a majority.



This is a fair and reasonable answer.

I suppose I have no major disagreement with it, since I cannot know at the moment what the original poster had in mind.

I will say that Tony at his best often performs phenomenally well against major opposition, but the best showings DO require various degrees of prep. I think the showing against Magneto is the model of how Tony would probably fare against DCnU Superman if they ever met, especially if in his Extremis Armor, which was, for a very long time, his standard.

For, from my understanding, Extremis gives him control over satellites and other nearby machinery akin to what he demonstrated against Magneto, and almost at whim.

Which translates into virtually no prep time necessary regardless of where these 2 battle.


As for Superman sunamping ...

Well, I'm a firm believer in allowing anything reasonable to the demonstrated character of people in "real-world" battles of this type.

DCnU Superman demonstrates a more tactical thinking mind, overall, than his predeccessor. If he realized he was being drained and still had presence of mind and ability, he might well run away from battle as you suggest in the hopes of solar re-charging and then come back with a plan to shut Tony down.

If he doesn't think of that response, I say Iron Man 6/10.
If he does think of that response, it becomes a case of whether he can retreat and comeback, and I say Superman 6/10 in that case, for he is fairly durable and faster than what Tony normally encounters.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Current Superman


Vs


Iron Man


Who wins?




Research a bit on Iron Man.

His strength at his best is in creating or adapting suits to opponents he has some knowledge of.



Would that I knew how he created the armor in THIS engagment, though ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5JqE5HGe4g

iceman24567
Superman everytime

Lord Feron
Idk why ppl are talking prep time.. there is none here.

Superman should win. IM should be able to deal some damage because Supes has just shittastic fighting ability. IM can exploit this. He is a seasoned vet but just don't got the stats to compete; so superman each and every time.

carver9
Superman wins this after a good fight.

Batman-Prime
Superman 10/10

-Pr-
Superman obviously. Borderline spite.

People need to read about the characters they're talking about.

ColossusGrundy
This isn't even an interesting fight.

Supes wins after ripping Tony's armor off like an eggshell.

Rao Kal El
Iron Man stick out tongue laughing out loud

Damborgson
Originally posted by carver9
Superman wins this after a good fight. Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman obviously. Borderline spite.

People need to read about the characters they're talking about.
laughing out loud

Damborgson
Oh and Superman after a decent scrap. Ironman can play with the big boys just fine when they're holding back a bit.

carver9
Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh and Superman after a decent scrap. Ironman can play with the big boys just fine when they're holding back a bit.

Yep.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh and Superman after a decent scrap. Ironman can play with the big boys just fine when they're holding back a bit.

"I'm going to let you hit me so you'll have a chance to realise the futility of your behaviour" isn't the same thing as "you're actually a threat to me".

Superman is the former.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Iron Man stick out tongue laughing out loud
Nice sig.

ThereIsHope
Id buy Iron Man but I dont know any action packed runs. Alot of the old run sounds like alot of drama for his mama.

armedforbattle
Ironman stands a good cha.....

Never mind...

http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/wsg/image/1342/18/1342189751353.gif

deathlife
Superman.

deathlife
Originally posted by armedforbattle
Ironman stands a good cha.....

Never mind...

http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/wsg/image/1342/18/1342189751353.gif

Jeez, that dude must have broken his neck!

Endless Mike
Superman

PillarofOsiris
Superman 10/10. This is a spite thread. Anyone who thinks this is a good fight is a bit delusional.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nice sig.

Thanks. embarrasment

juggerman
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Superman 10/10. This is a spite thread. Anyone who thinks this is a good fight is a bit delusional.

bluewaterrider
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Idk why ppl are talking prep time.. there is none here.


I don't know why anybody else is talking prep time, but I'M doing so because I realize the original poster is not very familiar with either character, yet has probably seen Superman getting tossed around like so much trash even since this recent reboot in multiple issues, and has, conversely, likely seen Iron Man going against heavy hitters routinely ranked on or even ahead of Superman in terms of strength and durability.

Sentry, Hulk, and Thor, to name the most obvious.
Magneto, too.
And not just Hulk but World War Hulk.
And for that matter, not merely Thor but King Thor.

Any of the above characters would give DCnU Superman hell in a fight, if not beat DCnU Supes handily.


If Iron Man is giving a good account of himself against THESE people, why WOULDN'T he give a good account of himself against Superman, who gets smacked around by his cousin Supergirl, who herself has been plagued and taken down by strange robots like Tycho's, or nanotech like in the first reboot run of the Superman title, just like Superman himself got taken down?

Or Wonder Woman, who has trouble with charging bull-creatures and horse-men in her own series, yet draws blood from Superman with an errant kick in the pages of Justice League, while skirmishing with Hal Jordan?

Or, of all people, Aquaman, long considered one of DC's biggest "joke" characters, and lampooned historically in most media?

No new reader is going to be able to make sense of that unless you clarify HOW Iron Man was able to go up against the big boys, or unless you do some gymnastics and explain WHY Aquaman, widely considered the rough equivalent of Namor, whom Iron Man has fought numerous times, should be able to handball Superman away like some red-and-blue shuttlecock, but Iron Man himself should be disposed of like some coke can if HE went against Big Blue.

It makes sense to people who spend as much time on comic books and on comic forums as you guys.

Not so much for more casual participants genuinely trying to learn the strange, counter-intuitive, and sometimes illogical philosophies that guide threads in THIS forum.

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