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KMC your challenge is to find someone who could resist TAO in a battle of wills.

Here is the opening opponent for the gauntlet.

Hal Jordan

Grunge

Originally posted by Silent Master
Grunge

How can Grunge resist the mighty TAO?

Cap somehow

just willpower or do you mean people who could avoid being manipulated by him? off the top of my mind I think about cypher

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
How can Grunge resist the mighty TAO?

Well, him resisting TAO in the comics might have something to do with my opinion.

Originally posted by 753
just willpower or do you mean people who could avoid being manipulated by him? off the top of my mind I think about cypher

You can consider both.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Well, him resisting TAO in the comics might have something to do with my opinion.

TAO ended the Wildstorm Universe.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
TAO ended the Wildstorm Universe.

That's nice, Grunge was still able to resist him when they fought.

alright,

cypher (doug ramsey) - might be able to counter TAO's people hacking with a similar hack of his own.

doctor manhatan by the end of watchmen- too alien, powerful and distant to care.

Genis - Cosmic awareness can offer a counter as might high end telepathy

Some characters might be too dumb/mindless to be manipulated:
Doomsday, Boom Boom (not a joke, nextwave is canon), etc.

Tao has affected some strong willed characters. The only reason grunge resisted is because hes pretty dumb.

I think Hal would actually win a willpower battle, even though he's the opening opponent.

Man-Thing

Batman. sneer

Originally posted by Badabing
Batman. sneer

NO.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
NO. ohno


Time to abuse some mod powers...evillaugh

Originally posted by Badabing
ohno


Time to abuse some mod powers...evillaugh







































http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bdVR-JIDi2g/RgwUgartYNI/AAAAAAAAA8k/wca3AsxMU68/s400/vs.-dinosaur.jpg

Originally posted by Oliver North
Man-Thing nah current manthing is all human-like now. although he is a transcendent cosmic big deal, so that might suffice

Originally posted by 753
nah current manthing is all human-like now. although he is a transcendent cosmic big deal, so that might suffice

oh, I know he is

as far as I'm concerned, everything since he joined the Thunderbolts never happened... Its just a bad dream...

Doom and/or Thanos.

Lucifer Morningstar.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Doom and/or Thanos.

THANOS, THANOS, THANOS, DID YOU SAY THANOS?

This Thanos?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee163/aaron_boruque/InfinityGauntlet5p35.jpg

No way.

DOOM has mother issues.

Doom resisted Purple Man

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Doom resisted Purple Man

TAO's power works differently than Purple Man's. There is a universal stream of information where all things are contained and TAO can tap into it.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
THANOS, THANOS, THANOS, DID YOU SAY THANOS?

This Thanos?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee163/aaron_boruque/InfinityGauntlet5p35.jpg

No way.

DOOM has mother issues.
They both have 2 of the strongest wills in Marvel. You don't know what you're talking. You're just another low-feat cherrypicking smack-talker who can't ruffle my jimmies. Better luck next time, tonto oso de peluche.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
They both have 2 of the strongest wills in Marvel. You don't know what you're talking. You're just another low-feat cherrypicking smack-talker who can't ruffle my jimmies. Better luck next time, tonto oso de peluche.

I've forgotten more canon than you'll ever know.

DOOM was obsessed with his mother and went as far as to risk his immortal soul for her. You think TAO won't pick up on that? He also has an obsession with some scientist/adventurer you may have heard of.

TAO breaks DOOM.

How on Earth can the DEFINITIVE take on Thanos's personality, from the DEFINITIVE Thanos writer be "Low-feat cherrypicking"?

That is absolutely laughable!

If I'm "Low-feat cherry picking" Starlin did it first.

John Lynch IIRC he gave Grifter telepathic immunity when he shutdown Tao's syndicate to stop Tao from mindraping him.

Superman

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I've forgotten more canon than you'll ever know.
Concession accepted.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Concession accepted.

Please, I have no doubt I actually know more about Thanos than you do despite your shtick.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman

Superman has a very poor history against mind manipulation. Although the Lord feat took several years to pull off.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Superman has a very poor history against mind manipulation. Although the Lord feat took several years to pull off.

Oh really? You must've been reading a very different superman than me or not reading at all. Lord could only manipulate superman because of superman's guilt over killing alternate reality kryptonians acting as a backdoor for him to enter into his mind and it took him years to do it. Telepaths have died trying to enter superman's mind and his feats against telepathy are monstrous.

So are we talking strictly about willpower here, or just their ability to resist Tao's mental manipulation?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Please, I have no doubt I actually know more about Thanos than you do despite your shtick.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Concession accepted.

Originally posted by StyleTime
So are we talking strictly about willpower here, or just their ability to resist Tao's mental manipulation?

Either or.

With TAO though there is really no way out as he taps into the stream of knowledge where nothing is concealed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh really? You must've been reading a very different superman than me or not reading at all. Lord could only manipulate superman because of superman's guilt over killing alternate reality kryptonians acting as a backdoor for him to enter into his mind and it took him years to do it. Telepaths have died trying to enter superman's mind and his feats against telepathy are monstrous.

Two words..Barda porn!

In all seriousness, Superman has issues surrounding the use of his power, it is these reservations that hold him in check. TAO could play with that very easily.

TAO is working on a level Superman has never faced. You can't hide anything from TAO so it is not a question of "Entering" since everything is exposed.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Two words..Barda porn!

In all seriousness, Superman has issues surrounding the use of his power, it is these reservations that hold him in check. TAO could play with that very easily.

TAO is working on a level Superman has never faced. You can't hide anything from TAO so it is not a question of "Entering" since everything is exposed.
That shouldn't be mentioned as that was just Byrne playing out his fantasies.

Should I mention Emperor Joker here? Superman hasn't faced someone like TAO?

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Willpower/psi%20resistance/adventuresof623b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Willpower/psi%20resistance/adventuresof623c.jpg

Tell me that again what you said.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Either or.

With TAO though there is really no way out as he taps into the stream of knowledge where nothing is concealed.

unless the character has no mind to stream said knowledge :P

Originally posted by Oliver North
unless the character has no mind to stream said knowledge :P

Man-Thing no longer presents that problem.

So sorry.

John Constantine

Originally posted by abhilegend
That shouldn't be mentioned as that was just Byrne playing out his fantasies.

Should I mention Emperor Joker here? Superman hasn't faced someone like TAO?

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Willpower/psi%20resistance/adventuresof623b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Willpower/psi%20resistance/adventuresof623c.jpg

Tell me that again what you said.

I have 2 instances in mind to deal with you but I don't want to rely on memory. You've obviously stockpiled evidence so I want to be exact when citing them.

TAO takes down Superman.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Man-Thing no longer presents that problem.

So sorry.

considering Tao isn't psychic, I'm not sure that is totally correct

Originally posted by Endless Mike
John Constantine hax.

alrigh LoB, what about doug ramsey? I say he'd hack TAO right back.

the drummer (planetary) might be able to hold his own

Originally posted by 753
alrigh LoB, what about doug ramsey? I say he'd hack TAO right back.

the drummer (planetary) might be able to hold his own

Ramsey is troublesome and I've been avoiding him as you can see.

I think TAO can hack him but there is a Wildstorm expert I need to contact.

Now onto Lucifer Morningstar.

If Dream can get the better of him I am sure that there is something for TAO to exploit.

The lightbearer is dimmed by the master.

Dream didn't get the better of him, Lucifer didn't care and was planning to leave Hell anyway.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I have 2 instances in mind to deal with you but I don't want to rely on memory. You've obviously stockpiled evidence so I want to be exact when citing them.

TAO takes down Superman.

Go on and tell me about those instances.

Maybe in your dreams.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Ramsey is troublesome and I've been avoiding him as you can see.

I think TAO can hack him but there is a Wildstorm expert I need to contact.

Now onto Lucifer Morningstar.

If Dream can get the better of him I am sure that there is something for TAO to exploit.

The lightbearer is dimmed by the master.
Did you just compared Morpheus, The Lord of dreams to some punk that got taken down by Grunge? Epic fail.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Did you just compared Morpheus, The Lord of dreams to some punk that got taken down by Grunge? Epic fail.

You really have no idea who TAO is do you?

Oh, and I haven't forgotten about Clark crumbling to TAO's power as well. The Byrne excuse won't hold weight.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You really have no idea who TAO is do you?

Oh, and I haven't forgotten about Clark crumbling to TAO's power as well. The Byrne excuse won't hold weight.
Do you have ANY idea who Morpheus is? Or Lucifer Morningstar? TAO would be lucky to lick their shoes clean.

Yeah, byrne fancied Barda and used superman as a author avatar. He even accepted that later. You might as well bring silver surfer getting koed by mexicans in every fight. It was blatant PIS.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Did you just compared Morpheus, The Lord of dreams to some punk that got taken down by Grunge? Epic fail.

Grunge was PIS and TAO has done well against guys like Majestic and nearly took down the WS universe. TAO is a beast, don't underestimate him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you have ANY idea who Morpheus is? Or Lucifer Morningstar? TAO would be lucky to lick their shoes clean.

Yeah, byrne fancied Barda and used superman as a author avatar. He even accepted that later. You might as well bring silver surfer getting koed by mexicans in every fight. It was blatant PIS.

TAO essentially taps into a stream of UNIVERSAL information. What would make Morpheus and Lucifer exempt from it?

You have battles within their reals of existence all the time.

As for Byrne, show me where he admitted that.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller


Run from me Godkiller, run in fear!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Run from me Godkiller, run in fear!
http://i.qkme.me/353ljn.jpg

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You have battles within their reals of existence all the time.
An omniscient being's vision was ****ed up after it entered Lucifer's creation. LOL at you anyways for even bringing them into the equation.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
TAO essentially taps into a stream of UNIVERSAL information. What would make Morpheus and Lucifer exempt from it?

You have battles within their reals of existence all the time.

As for Byrne, show me where he admitted that.
One universe? ***** please, Dominus tries to break superman by experiencing infinite realities and their information. Guess what happened?

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9112/ccf0528201200007.jpg

Nothing of course

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/galan398/th_powers84_zps98d87b1b.jpg

As for Lucifer

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
An omniscient being's vision was ****ed up after it entered Lucifer's creation. LOL at you anyways for even bringing them into the equation.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You might as well bring silver surfer getting koed by mexicans in every fight. It was blatant PIS.

Actually it was CIS. He pretended to be KO'd because he didn't feel like fighting or hurting anyone.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Actually it was CIS. He pretended to be KO'd because he didn't feel like fighting or hurting anyone.
Whatever...........

People always forget the context of that one (same with Batman kicking Spectre).

Originally posted by Endless Mike
People always forget the context of that one (same with Batman kicking Spectre).
You got the point, that's the most famous anyway.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
TAO essentially taps into a stream of UNIVERSAL information. What would make Morpheus and Lucifer exempt from it?

You have battles within their reals of existence all the time.

As for Byrne, show me where he admitted that.

Actually it was UniverseS. He was also affecting multiple reality as well. This was when he had the power of 3 reality warpers.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Actually it was UniverseS. He was also affecting multiple reality as well. This was when he had the power of 3 reality warpers.

Thanks for the correction.

tao would decimate thanos and doom

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
http://i.qkme.me/353ljn.jpg

TAO vs Thanos Battlezone involving the topic under discussion.

LOSER LEAVES KMC!

No memes. No obfuscation. No cowardice.

Accept or decline.

What say you Thanosite?

http://i.imgur.com/rnE90.gif

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
http://i.imgur.com/rnE90.gif

COWARD!

You have shamed Thanos.

^If that was directed at me, sorry to say buddy, can't see you no more. Ignore is a beautiful function:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/223/ignorelist.jpg

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^If that was directed at me, sorry to say buddy, can't see you no more. Ignore is a beautiful function:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/223/ignorelist.jpg

THIS is what Thanos has as his defender?

I've sent him proof of your betrayal and this was his response.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10986/1482382-thanos_crying.jpg

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?

Multiple Man?

^I'm intrigued

Originally posted by Oliver North
Multiple Man?

Interesting.

I want to say yes for TAO by default but let me see what the guy at The Higher Authority says.

Well, I'd say for sure Tao could control any one or few of Maddrox's dupes, but what is his highest feat in terms of number of people controlled?

It's kind of a technicality, but I'd imagine Maddrox's highest number of dupes feat would outnumber the number of people Tao could control, given his powers aren't psychic or anything like that, but require him to actively control a person.

Originally posted by Oliver North
Well, I'd say for sure Tao could control any one or few of Maddrox's dupes, but what is his highest feat in terms of number of people controlled?

It's kind of a technicality, but I'd imagine Maddrox's highest number of dupes feat would outnumber the number of people Tao could control, given his powers aren't psychic or anything like that, but require him to actively control a person. madrox can put out thousands of dupes. this might limit the interaction tao can have with them. its a maybe http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/12549/moment-of-the-week-124

Originally posted by Oliver North
Well, I'd say for sure Tao could control any one or few of Maddrox's dupes, but what is his highest feat in terms of number of people controlled?

It's kind of a technicality, but I'd imagine Maddrox's highest number of dupes feat would outnumber the number of people Tao could control, given his powers aren't psychic or anything like that, but require him to actively control a person.

His powers are vague, but they have been hinted that they very well could be psychic in nature.

Captain America.

Echo

Thanos easily

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos easily

Thanos is easily CONQUERED.

The Titan's insecurities would be a playground for TAO.

Like I said on page 1, Grunge.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thanos is easily CONQUERED.

The Titan's insecurities would be a playground for TAO. he over came and mastered the power of TOAA and Magus had to use the power of 5 Infinity gems to get him to now against his will.

Try again.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he over came and mastered the power of TOAA and Magus had to use the power of 5 Infinity gems to get him to now against his will.

Try again.
He never mastered the power of the TOAA.

As far as this thread goes I'm not sure if anyone could resist it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Echo

Doom. Maybe Thanos, though I wouldn't put money on it. Probably the companies' respective boyscouts (Kal, Cap), just because of company/writer wank. And Grunge apparently.

Sticking with Wildstorm, I'd love to see Henry Bendix go will-to-will with TAO. Arguably the two biggest villains of Wildstorm, and both badasses.

I always thought Bendix was just a shitter. They did too good a job creating a villain there.

From what I've understood TAO is far more about intelligence than willpower. In my opinion Doom and Brainiac would be better candidates than say Thanos or Captain America.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he over came and mastered the power of TOAA and Magus had to use the power of 5 Infinity gems to get him to now against his will.

Try again.

When did Thanos master the power of TOAA?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
When did Thanos master the power of TOAA? Marvel :The End , he even says on panel he mastered the naked energies of the HOTU in willpower alone.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He never mastered the power of the TOAA.

As far as this thread goes I'm not sure if anyone could resist it. he did he overcame and controlled the naked energy of HOTU on willpower alone.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he did he overcame and controlled the naked energy of HOTU on willpower alone.

That was HOTU.

Not the full power of the TOAA.

The full power of the TOAA would in example have included the extra space where Warlock was.

Stop saying naked energies lol.

Not that it matters. TAO has nothing to do with willpower, it's not a foreign intelligence trying to take over his body.

Being persuaded is not the same thing as being forced.

If Thanos resists then it would be his intelligence, not his willpower.

Thanos isn't known for his intelligence...

Originally posted by krisblaze
That was HOTU.

Not the full power of the TOAA.

The full power of the TOAA would in example have included the extra space where Warlock was. it was still power of TOAA which greater than every being within the universe combined.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
it was still power of TOAA which greater than every being within the universe combined.

If it was TOAA then it would've been all encompassing.

Still not relevant to this thread, as TAO is not trying to win over Thanos' will

Originally posted by krisblaze
If it was TOAA then it would've been all encompassing.

Still not relevant to this thread, as TAO is not trying to win over Thanos' will
The OP states this:
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
KMC your challenge is to find someone who could resist TAO in a battle of wills.
How can you be this bad at reading comprehension?

Originally posted by Digi
Maybe Thanos, though I wouldn't put money on it.
Why not?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Like I said on page 1, Grunge.

Originally posted by Epicurus
The OP states this:

How can you be this bad at reading comprehension?

Thank you, no need to sass me.

TAO doesn't take over minds in the sense that it's a battle of will, hence my confusion.

It's been days since I glanced over the OP.

Although, FWIW, OP clarified:

Originally posted by 753
just willpower or do you mean people who could avoid being manipulated by him? off the top of my mind I think about cypher

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You can consider both.

Lobo could also do it.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Why not?

Because Thanos's will is legendary, but as someone else pointed out, he's got a fair amount of existential insecurities, and TAO tends to feed off of that stuff and exploit it better than anybody. I can't be sure how an encounter would go that was strictly a battle of wills. As such, I'm not opposed to those saying Thanos here, but I also wouldn't label it a sure thing.