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1. Stricly Hand to Hand (no venom for Bane)
2. Bane on Venom, Silver Samurai has a katana

Harada loses one, but stomps round two

sounds fair

Silver samurai gets beaten around before getting his katana back and a bigger target to carve up til nothing is left.

1.Bane
2.SSamurai

1. Bane breaks him.
2. Bane breaks him again.

A bit too early for DCnU Bane.

Harada has been stated to be Class 10, he broke Spider Woman's hold, KO'd Spiderman and grabbed Wolverine's hand (who is superhuman in the strength department himself), preventing Logan from stabbing him.

DCnU Bane w/o Venom has no feats, I'm afraid. Or does some pre-flashpoint stuff still "count" for him?

yeah
1 venom wins
2 SS stomps

The Batverse is pretty much unchanged. We did see Batman on venom give Superman a bloody nose or whatever, so it's pretty powerful. Bane on venom is too much.

Bloody lip. No big deal, even Aquaman sent Supes flying with a punch...

In the 2nd scenario, Harada needs to land just one hit. And his durability is more than good enough to tank some hits from Bane.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Bloody lip. No big deal, even Aquaman sent Supes flying with a punch...

In the 2nd scenario, Harada needs to land just one hit. And his durability is more than good enough to tank some hits from Bane.

Of course Aquaman did. He's class 100 or so.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Of course Aquaman did. He's class 100 or so.

Low class 100 that talks to fish.

Taskmaster drew blood from Thor with a single shield strike... and his shield is not even 100% bulletproof.

bane simply lacks the durabilty for this.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Low class 100 that talks to fish.

Taskmaster drew blood from Thor with a single shield strike... and his shield is not even 100% bulletproof.

not from what he has done in the past and Thor sucks.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Low class 100 that talks to fish.

Taskmaster drew blood from Thor with a single shield strike... and his shield is not even 100% bulletproof.
You are using Janithor as a reference of strength?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are using Janithor as a reference of strength?



I... I must have lost my mind for a moment

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Much better example is Cap drawing blood from the Hulk even w/o using his shield. Stuff like this happens in comics all the time.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I... I must have lost my mind for a moment That's right. Don't let this happen again. Got it?
uhuh


Bah, low showing for Lord Rogers. Hulk should've been at least killed. Even worse example than before. You're losing it stilt.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's right. Don't let this happen again. Got it?
uhuh

I think I was under some kind of mind-control.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bah, low showing for Lord Rogers. Hulk should've been at least killed. Even worse example than before. You're losing it stilt.

That's just another example of his insane skill. It's like punching an ant without killing it, he lowers his chi level and holds back his punch so he only taps the Hulk. Even then all that keeps Banner alive is writer's armor...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I think I was under some kind of mind-control.


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They both lose to Daredevil.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I think I was under some kind of mind-control. Rage is now doing it from shadows.



That's my pal. You are forgiven by Lord Rogers.

1. Bane, unless StiltmanFTW is right about Silver Samurai having Class 10 strength.
2. Silver Samurai

His strength level was revealed in the Elektra comic. Scan courtesy of srank:

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That settles it then.

Silver Samurai wins in both scenarios.

Nah, Bane has gone up against class 50 or so and Secret Six on Venom can go toe to toe with some of the League not to mention Azrael on Venom was class 10 at the end of his run. Bane still stomps in round 1.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nah, Bane has gone up against class 50 or so and Secret Six on Venom can go toe to toe with some of the League not to mention Azrael on Venom was class 10 at the end of his run. Bane still stomps in round 1.

So Bane without venom is beating the class 10 Silver Samurai/Expert fighter? Wow. Just wow.

Originally posted by Raisen
So Bane without venom is beating the class 10 Silver Samurai/Expert fighter? Wow. Just wow.

Bane is an expert fighter as well. As stated by both Deathstroke and Ra's. Not to mention Bane without Venom can rip limbs off from bodies like it was nothing. Now what has SS done that is class 10?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Now what has SS done that is class 10?

Seconded.

Bane, without venom, has ripped the limbs off of people wearing power armor and beaten them to death with it. Even though he should be human level, he's a ringer, kind of like Kingpin.

Originally posted by cdtm
Seconded.

Bane, without venom, has ripped the limbs off of people wearing power armor and beaten them to death with it. Even though he should be human level , he's a ringer, kind of like Kingpin.

What I emboldened is what I was thinking. He should be human level without venom; him ripping off arms is PIS, intended to bolster his flagship character counterpart. i.e. Batman

Silver Samurai wins

Wasn't it pointed out that Bane was on venom for so long that he retained a lot of his strength, even without the venom? Anyway, he has displayed super human strength in SS all the time, so it's not PIS.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Now what has SS done that is class 10?

He's broken free from Spider Woman's hold, one-shotted her, KO'd Spider-Man, stopped Logan from stabbing him by grabbing his hand...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's broken free from Spider Woman's hold, one-shotted her, KO'd Spider-Man, stopped Logan from stabbing him by grabbing his hand...

It's not the first time Spidey has had trouble with skilled fighters. He used to suck in that department.

Originally posted by Golgo13
It's not the first time Spidey has had trouble with skilled fighters. He used to suck in that department.

Yeah, but he got tossed with enough force to crack a chimney. And described the experience as if Harada pulverized every bone in his body.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, but he got tossed with enough force to crack a chimney. And described the experience as if Harada pulverized every bone in his body.

He's not very durable. Bane survived some serious explosions point blank.

Silver Samurai in both scenarios

1. Bane
2. SS

Originally posted by Golgo13
He's not very durable. Bane survived some serious explosions point blank.

Care to show these phenominal explosions?

Originally posted by Golgo13
He's not very durable. Bane survived some serious explosions point blank.

Are you kidding me? You wank DC 99% of the time

Originally posted by Golgo13
He's not very durable. Bane survived some serious explosions point blank. so bane is more durable than spider-man huh?

Originally posted by 753
so bane is more durable than spider-man huh?

That's what he's saying. Have you seen this guy vote Marvel unless it's an over the top mismatch? It's always DC with this guy

I just can't get that image of Harada getting tooled by a holding back Wolverine. But he should beat Bane.

Originally posted by 753
so bane is more durable than spider-man huh?

He can certainly take a lot of damage. Batman on venom was able to take Superman's heat vision as stupid as that might sound. Bane was able to take lightning and Thunder point blank as well as huge explosions point blank.

Samurai mutilates him.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I just can't get that image of Harada getting tooled by a holding back Wolverine. But he should beat Bane.

Who has Samurai destroyed on Bane's level? In HTH, of course.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Batman on venom was able to take Superman's heat vision as stupid as that might sound. Superman can regulate his HV

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Superman can regulate his HV

It looked like he was going all out. Did he say he was regulating it at the time?

its hotter than the sun

Originally posted by Golgo13
It looked like he was going all out. Did he say he was regulating it at the time?

You think he'd shoot an all out HV blast at batman?

Originally posted by Damborgson
You think he'd shoot an all out HV blast at batman?

He was pretty pissed at the time, IIRC. Doesn't matter, we have seen Bane take both Thunder and Lightning, Fire (DC female), and electricity with no effects. Bane has proven he's very durable. Not to mention class 50 or above punishment.

Sorry, it was Bane who took the punishment. Not Batman.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
Who has Samurai destroyed on Bane's level? In HTH, of course.

One-shotted Spider Woman (Drew).

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
One-shotted Spider Woman (Drew).

Hitting women. Not a very impressive feat.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Who has Samurai destroyed on Bane's level? In HTH, of course. Nobody.

Yep since SW is above venomless Bane's lv.

Bane has those types of feats, too. It's primarily skill, IMO. Strength as well.