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Battle of prep.

What is the origin of his mind switch, is he a tp?

He does have TP as well, I believe.

Tony could probaly solo then, ultra humanite isnt really top tier...

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Tony could probaly solo then, ultra humanite isnt really top tier...

Come on, man. UH has build robots to give PC Superman a fight and his body is durable enough to fight the JSA. Besides, this is a PREP battle.

Even Post Crisis, UH was smart enough to take a 5-D Imps power.

Tony has really solid hacking feats, has anti Tp generators, and has access to the space Gem...

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Tony has really solid hacking feats, has anti Tp generators, and has access to the space Gem...


Ultra has a better grasp on time and better prep feats, which is why tony gets the avengers.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
and has access to the space Gem... unless I ahve missed something the gem just blew up

I haven't been following new Avengers, it seem like it has to be non canon Tony is in space in his solo and gotg, and Reed is god knows where..... Yet they are in NA somehow...

hyperion throws him into the sun.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
unless I ahve missed something the gem just blew up

How did the gem blow up?

I heard they put it together to form the IG and tried to do something cosmic and it blew up.

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Battle of prep. That's one ghey monkey.



But, he's got a rep.

In a prep war Ultra should take this.

With prep he has

Bested the All Star Squadron and Infinity Inc combined ( that's over 60 heroes with a lot more power than the Avengers). Eventually defeated only because two of the underlings he genetically altered to have super powers turned on him.

Taken on the JSA and Infinity Inc combined ( making them fight each other - defeated only because he considered the street levelers like huntress beneath his notice.

Defeated the JLA and JSA resulting in all heroes on Earth 2 being wiped from existence by his planned upsetting of the cosmic balance. Only defeated because of the unthinkable act of Earth 1 Cheetah saving her arch enemy Wonder Woman to get back at Ultra's betrayal.

Taken the power of the reality warping 5th dimension Djinn Thzz and taken over the world keeping Superman, and every major hero on the planet as his play things and puppets. Again only eventually loosing because another villain against all character changes sides

Add those and many more to the fact that he is a strong enough TPer to match and defeat Brain Wave Sr in psionic battle ( the same BW who in All Star Squadron 19 casually TP commands the entire JSA including Spectre and fate to do his wishes). Telepathically knock out several heroes while trapped in another dimension (Limbo) and tp communicate with himself across four decades.

WITH the physical power to man handle E-2 Superman, beat the crap out of Powergirl when enraged. As well as take the combined power of New Earth Superman, Martian Manhunter and Guy Gardner to take him on

He should take this quite easily. he can and has created minions who are more powerful than most of the Avengers

Originally posted by beatboks


WITH the physical power that takes the combined power of New Earth Superman, Martian Manhunter and Guy Gardner to take him on

That last one was supposed to have the image of the Three taking on Ultra and struggling.

Since I can't load URL's or apparantly images here ( with the WWW added at teh front obviuosly) comicvine.com/myvine/beatboks1/ultra-humanite/108-645565/ you find the images of ALL these feats and more.

Originally posted by beatboks
In a prep war Ultra should take this.

With prep he has

Bested the All Star Squadron and Infinity Inc combined ( that's over 60 heroes with a lot more power than the Avengers). Eventually defeated only because two of the underlings he genetically altered to have super powers turned on him.

Taken on the JSA and Infinity Inc combined ( making them fight each other - defeated only because he considered the street levelers like huntress beneath his notice.

Defeated the JLA and JSA resulting in all heroes on Earth 2 being wiped from existence by his planned upsetting of the cosmic balance. Only defeated because of the unthinkable act of Earth 1 Cheetah saving her arch enemy Wonder Woman to get back at Ultra's betrayal.

Taken the power of the reality warping 5th dimension Djinn Thzz and taken over the world keeping Superman, and every major hero on the planet as his play things and puppets. Again only eventually loosing because another villain against all character changes sides

Add those and many more to the fact that he is a strong enough TPer to match and defeat Brain Wave Sr in psionic battle ( the same BW who in All Star Squadron 19 casually TP commands the entire JSA including Spectre and fate to do his wishes). Telepathically knock out several heroes while trapped in another dimension (Limbo) and tp communicate with himself across four decades.

WITH the physical power to man handle E-2 Superman, beat the crap out of Powergirl when enraged. As well as take the combined power of New Earth Superman, Martian Manhunter and Guy Gardner to take him on

He should take this quite easily. he can and has created minions who are more powerful than most of the Avengers

Nice feats.

yeah ultra is highly underestimated. As far as prep goes he is easily one of the best if not the number one villain in DCU. his mental powers are very formidable and physically he's top tier. Also one of the top super scientists at DC. heavily underestimated

Originally posted by beatboks
yeah ultra is highly underestimated. As far as prep goes he is easily one of the best if not the number one villain in DCU. his mental powers are very formidable and physically he's top tier. Also one of the top super scientists at DC. heavily underestimated

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Tony could probaly solo then, ultra humanite isnt really top tier...

Completely and utterly disagree. Ultra is easily the closest thing DC has to a Doom equivalent. Top tier is the only way to describe him and here is why.

1. His ape body has been genetically modified to be in the physical league of Superman. Pre COIE he went toe to toe with E-2 Supes a few times and had the upper hand. post COIE he has beated Powergirl to a bloody pulp when mad and single handedly fought in physical battle Superman, Martian Manhunter and Guy Gardner.

2. His mental powers powers were shown to be at the peak levels of DC TPers. In early Infinity Inc he has telepathically controlled and dominated several members of Inf Inc from another dimension even though two of them had known TP resistance. He was also shown to be the telepathic equal to Brainwave Snr ( the same Brainwave who on debut before his powers fully matured telepathically pushed Spectre to go elsewhere for another perceived threat while implanting a suggested command in the rest of the JSA ( All Star Squadron 19). He also bested in TP battle MM, Hector Hammond, Gorilla Grodd and others and has telepathically controlled most of the worlds powerhouses at the same time. This was achieved because he developed devices to amp his TP or simply shut down a brain.

3. Prep

With Prep Ultra has soloed the combined JSA and Infinity inc.

He has altered the cosmic balance so that all heroes on his Earth no longer existed

He has usurped the power of reality warpers ( 5th Dimensional Imps)

He has given super powers to ordinary humans. In All Star Squadron with his war on America he careated a few Super powered minion. One was Deathbolt a character who could generate limitelss electricity.. Amazing man who could alter his molecular Straucture, Cyclotron who had full control over atoms and could cause atomic blasts, restructure matter and fly etc, plus a Thor like Character.

He has acquired artifacts of power like the power stone and Hammer of Thor ( the former is actually how he gained his mental powers having absorbed it's power into his mind). Plus only just been stopped from acquiring the Helm of Nabu three times as I recall.

He has time manipulated an orchestrated many events to go just the way he wanted. His plans have almost brought down the combined JLA and JSA several times and he has been absolute ruler of Earth at least twice.

4. His inventions
in the 40's/50's
Robot's capable of fighting Superman
Death rays
Force fields
Tekleporters
time machines
devices that control magma and volcanoes ( both active and inactive)
perfected brain transplants
developed deadly viruses that could wipe out most of Earths population

If you start adding in his inventions since he would be like adding Stark, Pym, and Hank ( Beast ) together. He may not be Reed or Doom but he's not far off. he makes Luthor look like an idiot.

The only reason he's lost each time has been because either
a) Some villain or sap that he was using that he thought he had complete control over turned on him ( in some cases even though the control was due to threats on their closest ones or promises to save them from some medical ailment that only he had developed the cure to)

b) He was defeated because some street level hero he thought to insignificant to be a threat undermined his plan with some massive plot twist.

Guess I forgot I'd already posted on this thread. *smacks back of own head* should read through at least a full page before inserting foot into mouth LOL