Graboids vs Predators
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thanos-prime
3 graboids vs 3 predators, same setting as the first pred movie they are hunting each other.
Who wins?
Kazenji
Predator's, all they have to do is stay up in the tree tops.
thanos-prime
They can knock the trees over.
Kazenji
Only if the predator's make noise
and yes i've seen the Tremor's movies.
thanos-prime
They're not going to make noise jumping from tree to tree? Also it's not enough for the preds to just survive they have to actively hunt the graboids.
Kazenji
All they have to do is grab a large branch and drop it.
thanos-prime
Can't confirm this but i don't think anything other than continuous movement will draw the graboids as iirc when the chick was running in the first one the graboid followed then when she stopped it stopped chasing her.
Placidity
tri lazor wins, tell them Mindset.
BruceSkywalker
do the graboids have infrared, heat vision or something that will them something is being camouflaged?? if not Preds destroy them
Silent Master
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
do the graboids have infrared, heat vision or something that will them something is being camouflaged?? if not Preds destroy them
They sense vibrations through the ground.
Kazenji
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
do the graboids have infrared, heat vision or something that will them something is being camouflaged?? if not Preds destroy them
Never seen the movie Tremors?
doesn't sound like it.
juggerman
Predators easily. The Graboids were figured out and defeated by hicks lol. Loved "Tremors" tho.
the ninjak
Originally posted by juggerman
Predators easily. The Graboids were figured out and defeated by hicks lol. Loved "Tremors" tho.
Yeah awesome movie. And the Predators make a living flying from planet to planet killing such things.
Kazenji is correct. The Predators just need to hit the trees. Create decoys and shoot the bastards through the brain.
If the worms compromise the ground beneath the trees they simply jump.
Rinse and repeat.
Looking forward to more Tremors threads though.
thanos-prime
What exactly are they going to create decoy's with tho? And even if they were able to get 1 with this tactic i have a hard time seeing them getting more the worms are very smart and catch on fast. And as for the jumping from tree to tree strategy sure they could do that but not for long or the graboids would just starve them out.
juggerman
They could decoy with anything really. The Graboids are attracted to noise so a plasma cannon blast would make them run towards where it hit. Plus they have weapons that could probably go thru the ground.
EDIT: And you don't know how long a Pred can go without food. The Graboids could easily starve themselves out
thanos-prime
Originally posted by juggerman
They could decoy with anything really. The Graboids are attracted to noise so a plasma cannon blast would make them run towards where it hit. Plus they have weapons that could probably go thru the ground.
EDIT: And you don't know how long a Pred can go without food. The Graboids could easily starve themselves out As i said they might be able to get 1 with a plasma cannon decoy but that's the only kind they can really make i don't think they would get the other 2 with the same kind of decoy and none continuous seismic activity won't draw them imo.
Well from what we saw in the first movie they were willing to wait for the guy on top of the poll to die of dehydration so they can probably go awhile w/o eating, And besides it's not like all of them have to be there at the same time to watch them.
juggerman
The Graboids didn't really seem to "work together" all that much iirc
Silent Master
Originally posted by juggerman
The Graboids didn't really seem to "work together" all that much iirc
You mean other than when they worked together to set a trap for the fleeing humans?
juggerman
Yeah i totally forgot about that. How many Graboids were in the 1st movie? I remeber one died from Bert shooting it, one died from the dragging dynamite, one went off the cliff, and one died in the beginning but i forgot how. Any others?
juggerman
How did the first one die?
thanos-prime
ran into a cement wall
Silent Master
Originally posted by juggerman
How did the first one die?
It chased Kevin Bacon so god dropped a cement wall in front of it.
juggerman
Hmmmmmm.... I don't really see how the Graboids win here. They fell for decoys and traps the entire movie and only really adapted at the end. All it would take is two or three well thought out traps for the Preds to win, and let's face it, that's what they do.
Plus their weapons may be able to harm a submerged Graboid. And if all else fails a Pred goes under after starting the wrist bomb.
thanos-prime
They have no means of implementing a decoy, There only means of trap is the shoulder cannon which might get 1 but i don't think the other 2 would fall or it. and it's kind of hard to setup a decoy when every tree you jump too get's felled in a matter of minutes or they could just sink the whole area. What weapons do they possess that could harm them while submerged?
juggerman
They have a plethora of weapons they carry one them and just about anything can be turned into a decoy. And i don't really recall the Graboids knocking down trees all willy nilly. Iirc when a guy climbed a tree like object they just sat around and waited. The bulidings "sinking" could be explained by the fact that giant monsters were circling them making the ground unstable which compromises the foundation. Just a theory of course.
Lasers for one. And the Graboids fell for many tricks before finally catching on. And iirc only one actually caught on at all. Then in the Predator movie with the jungle the were many cliffs to "scare" them off of.
EDIT: So bomb trick kills first, cliff kills second and suicide kills third
thanos-prime
Originally posted by juggerman
They have a plethora of weapons they carry one them and just about anything can be turned into a decoy. And i don't really recall the Graboids knocking down trees all willy nilly. Iirc when a guy climbed a tree like object they just sat around and waited. The bulidings "sinking" could be explained by the fact that giant monsters were circling them making the ground unstable which compromises the foundation. Just a theory of course.
Lasers for one. And the Graboids fell for many trick before finally catching on. And iirc only one actually caught on at all. Then in the Predator movie with the jungle the were many cliffs to "scare" them off of. The only ranged weapons they have are the cannon and spear and the spear isn't standard gear as iirc it was only seen in 1 movie. What exactly can they use as a decoy? The graboids don't just go for anything that moves it has to be continuous seismic movement the only thing they have that can do that is the cannon which they would grow accustomed to. Pis that they didn't knock down the poll, And the buildings being knocked down could be explained the way it was in the movie they tested the buildings then started knocking them down.
juggerman
Are you only allowing the Predators the weapons that were seen in the 1st movie?
EDIT: And the Spear was seen in Predator 2, AVP and possibly Predators. I'm not sure about AVPR
thanos-prime
Originally posted by juggerman
Are you only allowing the Predators the weapons that were seen in the 1st movie?
EDIT: And the Spear was seen in Predator 2, AVP and possibly Predators. I'm not sure about AVPR Ah i have not seen pred 2 in a long time, yes the gear they had in the first movie.
the ninjak
What's stopping them from throwing spears into the ground then blasting one as it arises?
juggerman
Also a good idea. Or throw anything into the gound really
Silent Master
Maybe the fact that just throwing something on the ground didn't work in the movies?
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Silent Master
They sense vibrations through the ground.
iirc, the Preds don't vibrate in camou mode, but might be wrong..
Originally posted by Kazenji
Never seen the movie Tremors?
doesn't sound like it.
its been years since I've seen Tremors
juggerman
Originally posted by Silent Master
Maybe the fact that just throwing something on the ground didn't work in the movies?
It did. The guys were throwing rocks and the Graboids stuck it's snake head things outta the ground
Silent Master
Originally posted by juggerman
It did. The guys were throwing rocks and the Graboids stuck it's snake head things outta the ground
Multiple rocks being thrown my multiple people IOW continuous vibrations, and IIRC didn't it only work once?
Silent Master
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
iirc, the Preds don't vibrate in camou mode, but might be wrong..
So their camo mode somehow stops the vibrations caused by them making noise, walking, breathing etc etc, where exactly was this stated in the movies?
juggerman
Originally posted by Silent Master
Multiple rocks being thrown my multiple people IOW continuous vibrations, and IIRC didn't it only work once?
Ok so multiple rocks from multiple Preds works just the same way. And no it(making noise to attract them) worked several times in the movie. Rocks, shouts, water, stomping, running, empty vehicle ect.
Silent Master
Originally posted by juggerman
Ok so multiple rocks from multiple Preds works just the same way. And no it(making noise to attract them) worked several times in the movie. Rocks, shouts, water, stomping, running, empty vehicle ect.
Distracting them isn't the same thing as making them come above ground long enough to be blasted.
juggerman
The way we "saw" that it worked was that they came up. The only time i know they didn't for sure was with the go-cart.
Silent Master
IIRC, they also attacked the farmer, the road crew, the Doc, the horses, the pongo stick and the guy on the tire without exposing more than their tongues/tentacles.
Plus, where are the Preds even getting the stuff to throw from?
Scarlet Fox
The way Graboids hunt is Vibrations through the ground. even in the Trees the Graboids would know which tree they were on. Not only that the Predators cant SEE them under the ground to begin with until they pop up.
I wouldnt be surprised if one Predator got eatten here tbh.
I thought that a Predator could use his staff to just spear into the ground but since they cant see the Graboids heat signature then that wouldnt work either.
As far as we know from the movies the Predators have three visions. Heat vision, the green vision to see the aliens signature(Not sure what to call that.), and then the white one that seems to be able to track lights. If I am missing one or two update me. Even with these Visions they still cant see through solid objects, IOW the ground.
Graboids tend to surprise people by reacting right away to vibrations. Now to be fair a Graboid wouldnt just take a tree down in an instant. They would have to dig around the Tree roots in order to knock it down. Predators could use this time, knowing the Graboids are under the certain tree, fire upon that area.
As for using their explosive wrist device that would only work under the ground and even then might even take out the predators but doutful it would go into the ground enough to kill the rest of the Graboids.
Now IF it was the different stages of graboids, The little flying burrowers, the Graboids, then the heatseeker Graboids, the Predators would lose. But up against normal Graboids it is hard to tell.
IMO, If the Predators do happen to win I dout they would be Flawless victory.
BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Silent Master
So their camo mode somehow stops the vibrations caused by them making noise, walking, breathing etc etc, where exactly was this stated in the movies?
dunno,, too busy doing homework to think about sillyness...
Ascendancy
As already said, if a bunch of random citizens can figure out how to survive I'm sure the Preds can manage.
Kazenji
What i can see happening is the pred's manage to take out two of them and the last one changes to a Shriekers....dumb move worm.
juggerman
Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC, they also attacked the farmer, the road crew, the Doc, the horses, the pongo stick and the guy on the tire without exposing more than their tongues/tentacles.
Plus, where are the Preds even getting the stuff to throw from?
Aren't they in a jungle? You saying there are no rocks in a jungle? I can def see the Preds losing one or two of their guys but the Graboids lose all three. If they change they lose harder imo
BruceSkywalker
to better gauge these "graboids" can someone post vids
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