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This is Cain at his 7th-8th day best. Now lets say that he is contained within an inescapable arena type setting vs your choice of Tank. Which character beneath High Trans could beat him senseless?

Only tanks are allowed to enter which includes Superman types.

No power negation, or mind rape/control allowed.

No one.

WB Hulk

Bob

Aquarian w/martial arts training from Karate Kid

Wb hulk would go to town on him. Featwise 8th day juggernaut was hardly impressive in comparison

Supes, Black Adam, Cap Marvel, Hulk...

Maybe a few choice others.

Worthy juggy with both enhancements.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Bob
how?
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Supes, Black Adam, Cap Marvel, Hulk...

Maybe a few choice others.
No. No. No. And No.
None of them are bullying 8day juggs

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Bob

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Worthy juggy with both enhancements.

High Trans? Is there a Mid Trans?

Any version of Hulk or Grundy would probably so strong that while they'd never hurt Juggernaut they would be strong enough to toss him around effortlessly. They won't beat him, but they'd be strong enough to bully him

But its not really bullying if he tosses them back just as hard while not being hurt himself.

Originally posted by SamZED
But its not really bullying if he tosses them back just as hard while not being hurt himself.

You are right

WM Thor, WB or HOTM Hulk, Classic Mangog, Destroyer, any sky father level being

Originally posted by kgkg
No one.

Originally posted by Supra
WB Hulk No. he cant hurt him in any way possible

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Worthy juggy with both enhancements. maybe

Onslaught apparently

Originally posted by golem370
Onslaught apparently that was retconed

That was?

Validus.

Originally posted by SamZED
That was? there has been a few Juggernaut Retcons recently

Originally posted by golem370
Onslaught apparently

Originally posted by googol
that was retconed

Retconed or not doesn't matter since The OP is asking for a tank under high trans tier.

Kurse

Classic Glob might be a tough one for Juggernaut.

Tutinax might cause a problem with his power and powers.

Graviton might be able to present some non-physical problems.

Ant Man could get in Cain's helmet and do awful things until Cain begged him to come out. He could go into Cain's ear canal with a stereo system, food and water, and a bunch of Wiggle's music for instance.

Blink could probably get creative with girlie underwear, porcupines or dog poop. Or, a hamster.

Sandman can perpetually place sand in Cain's underwear.

Professor Hulk tore Glob apart in a couple panels. I don't see that muck man doing anything.

Originally posted by googol
that was retconed when? what was said about it?

Originally posted by Stoic
Professor Hulk tore Glob apart in a couple panels. I don't see that muck man doing anything. True.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Kurse

Classic Glob might be a tough one for Juggernaut.

Tutinax might cause a problem with his power and powers.

Graviton might be able to present some non-physical problems.

Ant Man could get in Cain's helmet and do awful things until Cain begged him to come out. He could go into Cain's ear canal with a stereo system, food and water, and a bunch of Wiggle's music for instance.

Blink could probably get creative with girlie underwear, porcupines or dog poop. Or, a hamster.

Sandman can perpetually place sand in Cain's underwear.

How is that torture? The Wiggles are great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDHSbrPZH4A

furries > bronies > this guy ^

Originally posted by kgkg
No one.



This is 8th Day Juggs peeps...no pure tank Trans and under is bullying him under these conditions...

^Based on what? I think a lot of people in this thread haven't read the 8th day arc.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
^Based on what? I think a lot of people in this thread haven't read the 8th day arc. he trated thor like a 5 year old girl

nimrod, oh this is 8th day... hmmm

Originally posted by The Sorrow
^Based on what? I think a lot of people in this thread haven't read the 8th day arc.

Well I've read it and 8th Day Juggs dominated Thor...

So yeah, I'm basing my belief upon something...

Unless you have a convincing argument to the contrary, I dont believe any pure brick thats Trans or under can bully Juggs under these conditions...

And since you believe a pure brick thats Trans and under can bully this version of Juggs, surely you dont mind providing both a person that could do it along with an argument to back up that belief...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Well I've read it and 8th Day Juggs dominated Thor...

So yeah, I'm basing my belief upon something...

Unless you have a convincing argument to the contrary, I dont believe any pure brick thats Trans or under can bully Juggs under these conditions...

And since you believe a pure brick thats Trans and under can bully this version of Juggs, surely you dont mind providing both a person that could do it along with an argument to back up that belief...
He dominated Thor... so all of a sudden no-one under trans can beat him. Great logic

What did 8th day Juggernaut do to suggest an upper end non-retarded Thor/Superman/Hulk couldn't bully him?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
He dominated Thor... so all of a sudden no-one under trans can beat him. Great logic

What did 8th day Juggernaut do to suggest an upper end non-retarded Thor/Superman/Hulk couldn't bully him?

I see you've fail to provide a pure brick Trans and under who could bully him under these conditions...

Concession accepted...




Edit: Thor couldnt penetrate Classic Juggs force field with the God Blast how the hell are Thor, Hulk, or Supes going to bully Juggs with an even more powerful Force Field with punches and kicks!??

Aint gonna happen...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I see you've fail to provide a pure brick Trans and under who could bully him under these conditions...

Concession accepted...




Edit: Thor couldnt penetrate Classic Juggs force field with the God Blast how the hell are Thor, Hulk, or Supes going to bully Juggs with an even more powerful Force Field with punches and kicks!??

Aint gonna happen...
I just named you 3 read my post.

There's nothing to concede calm down little one.

When did 8th Day Juggernaut show any forcefields? Hulk himself has already bullied Juggernaut, in fact Juggernaut was dominated in the 8th day arc by the other examplars at one point or another.

Originally posted by The Sorrow

What did 8th day Juggernaut do to suggest an upper end non-retarded Thor/Superman/Hulk couldn't bully him? Because none of them have done that to classic juggernaut

Originally posted by The Sorrow

When did 8th Day Juggernaut show any forcefields? Hulk himself has already bullied Juggernaut, in fact Juggernaut was dominated in the 8th day arc by the other examplars at one point or another. you Fail yet again, 8th day juggernaut is the same classic juggernaut he can still use his Forcefield here,

When has Hulk with rage alone been able to dominated juggernaut? Hulk has NEVER dominated Juggernat, NEVER under his own powers

and the other examplars were empowered by magic something Hulk lacks...

Wait is 8th day juggy the same as classic? I must of looked over the part of the OP that said 8th day because I thought this was just classic juggy and 8th seemed much more impressive than normal classic juggy. The name of the thread kinda threw me off.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Wait is 8th day juggy the same as classic? yes but more determined to get his task done

^wow considering how impressed I was with 8th day that just makes me look at 'normal' classic juggs as a lazy ass bum lmao.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Kurse

Classic Glob might be a tough one for Juggernaut.

Tutinax might cause a problem with his power and powers.

Graviton might be able to present some non-physical problems.

Ant Man could get in Cain's helmet and do awful things until Cain begged him to come out. He could go into Cain's ear canal with a stereo system, food and water, and a bunch of Wiggle's music for instance.

Blink could probably get creative with girlie underwear, porcupines or dog poop. Or, a hamster.

Sandman can perpetually place sand in Cain's underwear. I'd agree with this but IIRC he can still suffocate after a few days. Other than that though I'd say good choice. I think he is far stronger in terms of raw strength post beyonder upgrade and I don't see juggs doing anything that would significantly injure him.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
I just named you 3 read my post.

There's nothing to concede calm down little one.

When did 8th Day Juggernaut show any forcefields? Hulk himself has already bullied Juggernaut, in fact Juggernaut was dominated in the 8th day arc by the other examplars at one point or another.

Little one? F**k off...how about that?

Examplars had magic...

I say again, no pure brick Trans and under is bullying 8th day Juggs with nothing but punches and kicks...

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Wait is 8th day juggy the same as classic?
They're the same person, but 8th day is also a more powerful version of classic Juggs.

NO ONE LOL NOT EVEN CLOSE

Juggs was getting the better of wwhulk till hulk bfr him.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Wait is 8th day juggy the same as classic? I must of looked over the part of the OP that said 8th day because I thought this was just classic juggy and 8th seemed much more impressive than normal classic juggy. The name of the thread kinda threw me off.


I was under the impression that 8th Day Juggernaut was just classic Juggernaut at his best albeit without the face mask. He was simply more focused than usual.

Originally posted by Stoic
I was under the impression that 8th Day Juggernaut was just classic Juggernaut at his best albeit without the face mask. He was simply more focused than usual.

he gets more of the ability of the gem of cyttorak he gets massive and instead of getting like 12% of the gems power he gets 100% and just is unstoppable there isnt a tank without going super high lvl that can stop him not even close hes super high himself

Originally posted by Stoic
I was under the impression that 8th Day Juggernaut was just classic Juggernaut at his best albeit without the face mask. He was simply more focused than usual.
Ah I see. My exp is classic juggy and 8th day are usually differentiated from each other and seen/handled as two different beasts of the same name. Not to mention 8th day juggy treated Thor like a chump where usually they are more or less on even footing (VS classic) which seemed to be more of a measuring stick to let us know how much more 8th day was.

Classic leaves room for someone to bully him in some various way more than 8th day. can't think of anyone who could bully 8th day juggy other than cyttorak himself just messing with his power lvls then pointing and laughing and even then he wouldn't be 8th day juggy anymore

Post-crisis Superman and WWH.

Originally posted by Dolos
Post-crisis Superman and WWH.

NEITHER EVEN HAVE A PRAYER AT GETTING 1 VICTORY IN A FIGHT AND U THINK THEY CAN BULLY HIM? NO SHOT BUT U R A SUPERMAN FAN I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE

Originally posted by googol
you Fail yet again, 8th day juggernaut is the same classic juggernaut he can still use his Forcefield here,

When has Hulk with rage alone been able to dominated juggernaut? Hulk has NEVER dominated Juggernat, NEVER under his own powers

and the other examplars were empowered by magic something Hulk lacks...


Yes, he has bullied him, more than once. I can provide scans if you want.?

Originally posted by carver9
Yes, he has bullied him, more than once. I can provide scans if you want.? on a none Carver what if world? show them scans, where Hulk(not powered by celestial tech) Bully Juggernat, and when I mean bully I mean just like when you as a 8 year old boy/birl were bullied

Originally posted by Dolos
Post-crisis Superman and WWH. Classic Juggernaut was busted Hulk's mouth, Hulk was bleeding like a pig, WWH had to BRF him.

Originally posted by googol
Classic Juggernaut was busted Hulk's mouth, Hulk was bleeding like a pig, WWH had to BRF him.
Yeah nothing in the brief juggy WWH fight seemed like he could bully him. Too evenly matched / close in power for hulk to Bully him there.

Originally posted by carver9
You'll have to post the scans before he used the God blast. He states that his power came back. He was pretty much at full power during the end of the fight...juggernaut was just too much for him...during and after the dizzy spells. I already knew he was suffering from spells during some of the fight.

You need re-read the fight. At the end, Thor regained his strength -to whatever extent that he could- and he God Blasted the Juggernaut. Before that, Juggernaut and Thor only ever traded blows when Thor was suffering from the equivalent of Asgardian epilepsy and could barely walk.

Here:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut1.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut2.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut3.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4.jpg.html
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4-1.jpg
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut5.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut6.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut7.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut8.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut9.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut10.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut12.jpg.html

And in the following issue:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16187296_Thor_1990_413_02.jpghttp://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16187291_Thor_1990_413_03.jpg

"Those spells seem to be growing in intensity and frequency! Each new attack leaves me far weaker than the previous one."

After all these years, I have no idea why this fight gets brought up in Juggernaut vs. Thor discussions as if their physical exchange is in anyway relevant. The only time they ever had a clean hand to hand scrap, Thor kicked dirt in his face, gave him a wedgie, and took his lunch money.

This being humbles 8th Day Juggernaut.

http://thefwoosh.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/validus-hands.jpg

The easy answer is Hulk.

Giant form overweight Apocalypse might do it.
Then again, celestial tech (messes with Juggs` enchantment) might be cheating according to OP.

http://www.ensabahnur.net/images/cyc1.jpg

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large_lightbox/hash/2e/d9/2ed9aaf813cb25ab6309c8764c8d2f36.jpg?itok=O4xmExJv

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You need re-read the fight. At the end, Thor regained his strength -to whatever extent that he could- and he God Blasted the Juggernaut. Before that, Juggernaut and Thor only ever traded blows when Thor was suffering from the equivalent of Asgardian epilepsy and could barely walk.

Here:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut1.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut2.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut3.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4.jpg.html
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4-1.jpg
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut5.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut6.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut7.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut8.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut9.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut10.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut12.jpg.html

And in the following issue:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16187296_Thor_1990_413_02.jpghttp://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16187291_Thor_1990_413_03.jpg

"Those spells seem to be growing in intensity and frequency! Each new attack leaves me far weaker than the previous one."

After all these years, I have no idea why this fight gets brought up in Juggernaut vs. Thor discussions as if their physical exchange is in anyway relevant. The only time they ever had a clean hand to hand scrap, Thor kicked dirt in his face, gave him a wedgie, and took his lunch money.

Exactly...which is what I said. Thor was at full power during the end which means he hit Juggernaut with a full power god blast. Juggernaut withstood which means Thor strength even at full power would have been worthless. His power was going on and off during that fight and even when he was fully active, he was still getting slapped around.

Look at that doublechin.

Originally posted by carver9
Exactly...which is what I said. Thor was at full power during the end which means he hit Juggernaut with a full power god blast. Juggernaut withstood which means Thor strength even at full power would have been worthless. His power was going on and off during that fight and even when he was fully active, he was still getting slapped around.

The seizures had aftereffects that weakened Thor, I posted the scans saying so.

Thor never fought Juggernaut hand to hand in that issue legitimately. He could barely walk when he first chased after him:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4-1.jpg.html

And although he seemed to be fine when he tossed the hammer, as he explained here, it was the seizures that caused his collapse:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut10.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html

He doesn't have a momentarily spell and regain himself completely. Even if he's not falling over every few moments, he's still weakened.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The seizures had aftereffects that weakened Thor, I posted the scans saying so.

Thor never fought Juggernaut hand to hand in that issue legitimately. He could barely walk when he first chased after him:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut4-1.jpg.html

And although he seemed to be fine when he tossed the hammer, as he explained here, it was the seizures that caused his collapse:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut10.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html

He doesn't have a momentarily spell and regain himself completely. Even if he's not falling over every few moments, he's still weakened.

http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html

At last, the Delirium leaves and strength return to my limbs. Obvious his power came back and he didn't suffer any spells during his god blast either. When he suffered from spells, he was falling all over the place...that didn't happen during the end. Juggernaut withstood the blunt of his power and was shocked that he couldn't walk through it. Do you honestly believe Thor using his strength would have made a difference? Wait, I have proof that it wouldn't have made a difference. During their second encounter...Thor took away Juggernauts forcefield and was pounding him, when it returned, Thor punches did nothing which resulted in Thor bfring him. Thor didn't suffer "any" seizures during their second encounter which gives us a good indication on how a fight would have played out between the two. Thor would have lost and badly. Thor played his cards right and bfred Juggernaut before losing.

Originally posted by carver9
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut11.jpg.html

At last, the Delirium leaves and strength return to my limbs. Obvious his power came back and he didn't suffer any spells during his god blast either. When he suffered from spells, he was falling all over the place...that didn't happen during the end. Juggernaut withstood the blunt of his power and was shocked that he couldn't walk through it. Do you honestly believe Thor using his strength would have made a difference? Wait, I have proof that it wouldn't have made a difference. During their second encounter...Thor took away Juggernauts forcefield and was pounding him, when it returned, Thor punches did nothing which resulted in Thor bfring him. Thor didn't suffer "any" seizures during their second encounter which gives us a good indication on how a fight would have played out between the two. Thor would have lost and badly. Thor played his cards right and bfred Juggernaut before losing.

Read the scans, I know he regained some strength but as was clarified in the next issue, each seizure left him far weaker then the last one.

That's not true, what did I just say? Thor was under the effects of the actual seizure (Nevermind the aftereffects) in this scene but you wouldn't know it:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/WeakThorvsJuggernaut6.jpg.html

That's what Thor does, he pushes through. Yes I believe Thor not suffering from a loss of strength that reduced him to the point of barely being conscious would have made a huge difference. Since you know, he ended up beating Juggernaut in the second fight soon after when he wasn't weakened.

I don't believe his full strength would have gotten past the force field, but if he didn't have to deal with f*cking passing out and shit he could have found a way around it and wouldn't be so easily knocked out. Like in the second fight!

Originally posted by curryman
High Trans? Is there a Mid Trans?

Any version of Hulk or Grundy would probably so strong that while they'd never hurt Juggernaut they would be strong enough to toss him around effortlessly. They won't beat him, but they'd be strong enough to bully him

so by your logic anyone who can lift his weight which is around 800 lbs as i remember, and toss that weight for a fair distance can bully him? if we use your logic then the list is very very long....

Man-Thing

Despero or the destroyer, hands down bully juggernaut, i dont know why but i seem to have a growing hatred for juggy, because of all the fabiy wanks he gets on this forum
sentry, superman, despero, the destroyer, full confidence gladiator, king hyperion or just hyperion
Not a tank but would absolutely bully juggs is wally west, bart allen or professor zoom