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Pre Reboot Supergirl.

No bfring. Who wins?

BRB 6/10.

Bill Solidly

Bill takes a healthy majority.

speed kills

Bill convincingly

Bill, but not easily.

BRB for a good majority.

BRB 8/10

Originally posted by -Pr-
Bill, but not easily.

Beta.

This would be a fun fight to watch but I think Beta Ray Bill would win after a brutal fight.

I think Supergirl spanks him good. Especially when she gets close to him.
I don't really see BRB even beating her at all.

Originally posted by h1a8
I think Supergirl spanks him good. Especially when she gets close to him.
I don't really see BRB even beating her at all.
You are forgetting that nobody cares about your opinion.

A crazy ruthless alien horse version of Thor? Puts SG in her place.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
You are forgetting that nobody cares about your opinion.

A crazy ruthless alien horse version of Thor? Puts SG in her place.

Irrelevant!
I speak the truth.
If both characters existed in reality (or some reality) then SG would own BRB easily.
She's too damn fast for him plus a lot stronger. She could palm the hammer if she wanted to. But she doesn't need to as she can just go to town on him using speed.

Originally posted by h1a8
Irrelevant!
I speak the truth.
If both characters existed in reality (or some reality) then SG would own BRB easily.
She's too damn fast for him plus a lot stronger. She could palm the hammer if she wanted to. But she doesn't need to as she can just go to town on him using speed.
You speak lies

Let me remind you of who Beta Ray is

-Bill has taken out Grey Gargoyle with ease
-fought a warriors madness Thor and did pretty well (didn't want to fight him)
-and of course CRACKED GALACTUS ARMOR

and I know its in one of his respect threads: Shows him dodging energy blasts that were coming at him multiple times faster then the speed of light, so you can stop with the "speed kills" argument

And besides its not like SG speed blitzes the crap out of everyone. Thats Just the argument you use when a DC character will lose a fight

Edit: AND LOL at SG palming storm breaker, a couple hits from storm breaker and she is screwed.

Beta ray bill stomped stardust a herald of Galactus destroying a planet in the process.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73574/2007228-thor_brb_feat_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73574/2007229-thor_brb_feat_i.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73574/2007232-thor_brb_feat_ii.jpg
(best scans I could find in short notice)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73574/2007234-thor_brb_feat_planet_busting_boast.jpg
"I've shattered planets with this hammer"

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Beta ray bill stomped stardust a herald of Galactus destroying a planet in the process.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73574/2007228-thor_brb_feat_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73574/2007229-thor_brb_feat_i.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73574/2007232-thor_brb_feat_ii.jpg
(best scans I could find in short notice)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/7/73574/2007234-thor_brb_feat_planet_busting_boast.jpg
"I've shattered planets with this hammer"
Great scans!

That was a Tanaraq empowered Sasquatch right?

Originally posted by armedforbattle
Great scans!

That was a Tanaraq empowered Sasquatch right?
That it was (omega flight comics)

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4946/249578-brb_physical15_super.jpg
I'm sure everyone has seen it, but Bill and Thor supporting the weight of Asgard on there backs. And idk how much Asgard weighs but my guess is: Absurd Amount of Tons.

Why does he look like a horse?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider


Why does he look like a horse?
...because he is an alien. Also he looks different from the rest of his kind being their 'champion' and getting cybernetic enhancements that seemed to have given him his horse like face. Makes him look more fierce I suppose.

Yeah its weird

Here is Omega Ray. Horse lookin.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060310172349/marveldatabase/images/a/af/OmegaRay.JPG

Here is Alpha & Beta Ray. Alpha isn't Not so horse lookin.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/alpharaybrb2.jpg

Here is some regular Korbinites. Not horse lookin at all
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1wub1BtQj1qj6hgh.jpg

And there is Red Shift, who IMO looks to be Korbinite.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9d/Red_Shift.jpg/250px-Red_Shift.jpg

He did not "stomp" Stardust. Even though Bill had help from his ship Stardust was fighting him evenly, until he opened the portal to Asteroth's dimension, and they both had to team up against her.

BRB didn't destroy a planet solo, that was more like a planetoid. Also when he actually destroyed a planet with help from stardust, he was KTFO. Supergirl has destroyed one of jupiter's moons and survived new krypton exploding while its core turned into kryptonite. This isn't how this fight would be decided though.

BRB destroyed a planet, plus we don't know how big the planet was, but the shock waves was powerful enough to KO both BRB and Stardust. BRB wins the vast majority 6-7/10

Originally posted by abhilegend
BRB didn't destroy a planet solo, that was more like a planetoid. Also when he actually destroyed a planet with help from stardust, he was KTFO. Supergirl has destroyed one of jupiter's moons and survived new krypton exploding while its core turned into kryptonite. This isn't how this fight would be decided though.

What are you talking about? He hit Stardust so hard that the planet they were on was destroyed:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike1.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike2.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike3.jpg

Second time he shrugs off planetary destruction:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_durability11.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_durability12.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_durability13.jpg

I can't find scans of the scene where Stardust rams into Asteroth but I'm pretty certain Beta Ray Bill recovers almost instantly.

You mean by being kept safe from the blast in that vault or whatever? If that's what you're referring to, you still haven't grasp the meaning of "context".

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you talking about? He hit Stardust so hard that the planet they were on was destroyed:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike1.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike2.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike3.jpg

Second time he shrugs off planetary destruction:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_durability11.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_durability12.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_durability13.jpg

I can't find scans of the scene where Stardust rams into Asteroth but I'm pretty certain Beta Ray Bill recovers almost instantly.

You mean by being kept safe from the blast in that vault or whatever? If that's what you're referring to, you still haven't grasp the meaning of "context".
Yeah, that's more like a planetoid than a planet considering how small it was depicted. Feel free to disagree.

That's not what I was talking about. Those scans are from Godhunter, I was talking about the fight with Asteroth where he and stardust ram Asteroth into the planet and he was KTFO.

That vault was a radiation proof room which Alura sent SG into so that she doesn't get depowered by gold kryptonite. Radiation proof vault was supposed to protect her from the planet blowing up? LOL.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that's more like a planetoid than a planet considering how small it was depicted. Feel free to disagree.

That's not what I was talking about. Those scans are from Godhunter, I was talking about the fight with Asteroth where he and stardust ram Asteroth into the planet and he was KTFO.

That vault was a radiation proof room which Alura sent SG into so that she doesn't get depowered by gold kryptonite. Radiation proof vault was supposed to protect her from the planet blowing up? LOL.
Wow! Figures. BRB was beastly in both arcs (Saga of BRB and Godhunter). I can't believe ure trying to discredit those feats. The second group of scans Rage showed was a full-sized planet. U'd be hard pressed to find other arcs that saw so much planetary level destruction by herald level beings. The collateral damage was just nuts. And yes, He was up almost immediately after Stardust dive-bombed Asteroth while being full-nelsonned by BRB.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that's more like a planetoid than a planet considering how small it was depicted. Feel free to disagree.

That's not what I was talking about. Those scans are from Godhunter, I was talking about the fight with Asteroth where he and stardust ram Asteroth into the planet and he was KTFO.

That vault was a radiation proof room which Alura sent SG into so that she doesn't get depowered by gold kryptonite. Radiation proof vault was supposed to protect her from the planet blowing up? LOL.

Cool.

Yes, I know what scene you're referring to, unfortunately I couldn't find the scans. Still, he was up almost immediately IIRC.

I specifically remember her being sent into the vault so she could survive or something along those lines. Even if it only shielded her from the Kryptonite part (I'd have to see the scans to be sure), that's still a huge bit of context to leave out seeing as how you said she survived the explosion despite a Kryptonite core.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Cool.

Yes, I know what scene you're referring to, unfortunately I couldn't find the scans. Still, he was up almost immediately IIRC.

I specifically remember her being sent into the vault so she could survive or something along those lines. Even if it only shielded her from the Kryptonite part (I'd have to see the scans to be sure), that's still a huge bit of context to leave out seeing as how you said she survived the explosion despite a Kryptonite core.
Cool.

No, he was woken up by Stardust.

She was shielded from gold kryptonite. You think a radiation proof vault would let her survive a planet blowing up?

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15373094_warofthesupermen01i.jpg

The kryptonians died because they got depowered by gold kryptonite first.

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15373093_warofthesupermen01h.jpg

Supergirl survived because she was shielded by gold kryptonite, but not the planet blowing up and green kryptonite though. She was sitting on rocks the next superman finds her, no vault in the sight.Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wow! Figures. BRB was beastly in both arcs (Saga of BRB and Godhunter). I can't believe ure trying to discredit those feats. The second group of scans Rage showed was a full-sized planet. U'd be hard pressed to find other arcs that saw so much planetary level destruction by herald level beings. The collateral damage was just nuts. And yes, He was up almost immediately after Stardust dive-bombed Asteroth while being full-nelsonned by BRB.
Post the scans then. Collateral damage as ever isn't a parameter for the power.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you talking about? He hit Stardust so hard that the planet they were on was destroyed:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike1.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike2.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_brb_strike3.jpg


I can't find scans of the scene where Stardust rams into Asteroth but I'm pretty certain Beta Ray Bill recovers almost instantly.

You mean by being kept safe from the blast in that vault or whatever? If that's what you're referring to, you still haven't grasp the meaning of "context". lol it amazes me that people still use that feat to display brb's power like its relevant in a forum fight.

1. He rammed into the planet from light years away flying faster than light speed. This is not applicable in a forum fight since leaving the battlefield is not an option.

2. After a large portion of the planet was destroyed (from ramming it from light years away) they were on a small rock. He hit stardust and the rock broke some more. This ain't a good feat.

Originally posted by SevenShackles


because he is an alien. Also he looks different from the rest of his kind being their 'champion' and getting cybernetic enhancements that seemed to have given him his horse like face. Makes him look more fierce I suppose.




So it's not anything from Norse Mythology, like how Ganesh has the face of an elephant even though he was born human in Hindu mythology ...

Thanks, Seven.
Thanks armedforbattle.

You know, regarding the "fearsome" aspect, Beta Ray vaguely resembles the "Werehorse" that appeared in the Castlevania series about 12 years ago.

Fast forward to roughly the 10 minute mark of the following YouTube video to see that character:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HoG7vJtsms

Supergirl with ease.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Bill Solidly





BRB 10/10

Super girl ends him. Not even sure how beta ray bill could even touch her. He doesn't even have thors speed feats.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider

You know, regarding the "fearsome" aspect, Beta Ray vaguely resembles the "Werehorse" that appeared in the Castlevania series

They do look pretty similar. Lol
I miss that game it awesome.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
So it's not anything from Norse Mythology, like how Ganesh has the face of an elephant even though he was born human in Hindu mythology ...

Thanks, Seven.
Thanks armedforbattle.

You know, regarding the "fearsome" aspect, Beta Ray vaguely resembles the "Werehorse" that appeared in the Castlevania series about 12 years ago.

Fast forward to roughly the 10 minute mark of the following YouTube video to see that character:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HoG7vJtsms
Your welcome bud
Lol I see what you mean about the werehorse, thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cool.

No, he was woken up by Stardust.

Post the scans then.
Seriously why discredit his durability and power? This sequence wasn't just a planet blowing up. While Bill was subduing Asteroth, U have Stardust dive-bombing both into the planet. Last scan shows he was right back up. Rage already showed u scans of him shrugging off another instance of a planet blowing up in his face.
http://imageshack.us/f/855/stormbreaker41415.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/255/stormbreaker41617.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/18/stormbreaker418.jpg/

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Seriously why discredit his durability and power? This sequence wasn't just a planet blowing up. While Bill was subduing Asteroth, U have Stardust dive-bombing both into the planet. Last scan shows he was right back up. Rage already showed u scans of him shrugging off another instance of a planet blowing up in his face.
http://imageshack.us/f/855/stormbreaker41415.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/255/stormbreaker41617.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/18/stormbreaker418.jpg/

Most heralds can survive plantery explosions or greater when written on their high end. This doesn't mean much really, especially since any herald level being can damage any other herald level being, including Bill.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Bill takes a healthy majority.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Seriously why discredit his durability and power? This sequence wasn't just a planet blowing up. While Bill was subduing Asteroth, U have Stardust dive-bombing both into the planet. Last scan shows he was right back up.
H1 & Abhi always discredit good feats by marvel characters. Buy will always back a ridiculous DC feat

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Seriously why discredit his durability and power? This sequence wasn't just a planet blowing up. While Bill was subduing Asteroth, U have Stardust dive-bombing both into the planet. Last scan shows he was right back up. Rage already showed u scans of him shrugging off another instance of a planet blowing up in his face.
http://imageshack.us/f/855/stormbreaker41415.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/255/stormbreaker41617.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/18/stormbreaker418.jpg/
Oh, I mis-remembered that he was woken up by Stardust. I am not degrading his durability with that scene though, just saying both have survived planets blowing up in their faces. Supergirl's feat is more impressive though since we know new krypton was Earth's size and she was weakened by kryptonite. Also these kinds of feats are meaningless in assessing characters' durability. By this standard superman would likely be more durable than all the other high heralds combined.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
H1 & Abhi always discredit good feats by marvel characters. Buy will always back a ridiculous DC feat
durly

BRB was knocked out by that planet blowing up, no matter how briefly he remained knocked out.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4946/249578-brb_physical15_super.jpg
I'm sure everyone has seen it, but Bill and Thor supporting the weight of Asgard on there backs. And idk how much Asgard weighs but my guess is: Absurd Amount of Tons.

Those are some bad ass pics!

Originally posted by abhilegend
BRB was knocked out by that planet blowing up, no matter how briefly he remained knocked out.

Anyway, pre-boot Supergirl 6/10, post-boot Supergirl sucks at combat, so she likely loses 7/10.

bill wins a solid majority.

Bill looks like Sarah Jessica Parker.

Look

Bill and OF Thor lifted Asgard which is a city. Superman, supergirl, superboy and steel slowed down a ship containing a pocket universe going at near lightspeed which was going to destroy earth. I don't need to say which is superior shared feat, do I?

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389669_action_comics_901__005_zps2a6fea30.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389670_action_comics_901__013_zps81454bd4.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389671_07_zps94fa020b.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389672_08_zps24c8cc80.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389673_09_zps87ec5490.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389674_10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389675_11_zps9e04be17.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389676_13_zps26c291dd.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bill and OF Thor lifted Asgard which is a city. Superman, supergirl, superboy and steel slowed down a ship containing a pocket universe going at near lightspeed which was going to destroy earth. I don't need to say which is superior shared feat, do I?

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389669_action_comics_901__005_zps2a6fea30.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389670_action_comics_901__013_zps81454bd4.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389671_07_zps94fa020b.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389672_08_zps24c8cc80.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389673_09_zps87ec5490.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389674_10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389675_11_zps9e04be17.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389676_13_zps26c291dd.jpg

EPIC feat, but I don't think the pocket universe was inside the ship. Probably on the outside.

I see him hammering her out, then taking her unconcious body back to asgard to do wicked wicked things.

Kara, as Dark Supergirl, took on one of those evolved Doomsdays.
Think it was around Justice League 55 or something like that?

She was winning until Henshaw, fearing the girl would succeed alone where he had failed, betrayed and treacherously attacked her.

Looking at her pre-52 record, actually, Kara succeeds against nearly everyone in Superman's class, sometimes even above, that possesses his level of power --IF they lack Superman's extensive fight experience.
She's handled some of these guys multiple times.
Unless someone can show me Beta Ray Bill operating above the level of Ultraman or Bizarro, then, or utilizing some really good strategy or weird-Mjolnir-mojo, I'd have to Kara the majority of wins.

All bets are off if he can create kryptonite, trap targets in black holes and gravity wells, or teleport people to red sun systems, though.

Originally posted by Golgo13
EPIC feat, but I don't think the pocket universe was inside the ship. Probably on the outside.
Nope

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/th_action_comics_901__017_zpsba923a67.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bill and OF Thor lifted Asgard which is a city. Superman, supergirl, superboy and steel slowed down a ship containing a pocket universe going at near lightspeed which was going to destroy earth. I don't need to say which is superior shared feat, do I?

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389669_action_comics_901__005_zps2a6fea30.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389670_action_comics_901__013_zps81454bd4.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389671_07_zps94fa020b.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389672_08_zps24c8cc80.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389673_09_zps87ec5490.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389674_10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389675_11_zps9e04be17.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389676_13_zps26c291dd.jpg

Not saying the spaceship thing wasn't nice but that's more of a flight feat then a strength feat so yeah... can't really compare that.

Originally posted by ThereIsHope
I see him hammering her out, then taking her unconcious body back to asgard to do wicked wicked things.
Since he's a horce-faced mofo, I guess we can call it beastiality.
It works beacuase it's in line with her being a farm (Kent farm) girl.
Crazee hicks..

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Not saying the spaceship thing wasn't nice but that's more of a flight feat then a strength feat so yeah... can't really compare that.
You think they used their flight to stop the ship? Angel and hawkman could do that too, I presume? After all flight is all you need to stop things, right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cool.

No, he was woken up by Stardust.

He was temporarily taken out (Or stunned) for a brief moment before getting up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She was shielded from gold kryptonite. You think a radiation proof vault would let her survive a planet blowing up?

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15373094_warofthesupermen01i.jpg

The kryptonians died because they got depowered by gold kryptonite first.

http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t1/15373093_warofthesupermen01h.jpg

Supergirl survived because she was shielded by gold kryptonite, but not the planet blowing up and green kryptonite though. She was sitting on rocks the next superman finds her, no vault in the sight.
Post the scans then. Collateral damage as ever isn't a parameter for the power.

I think it had a crucial part in her surviving, yes. Kara's mother says she'd be safe in the vault:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15391843_05-09-10_01_10.jpg

She then comes out of the explosion almost unharmed, after this event made it clear Kryptonians are nowhere near planetary level solo? Yes, I think it was the major factor in her surviving.

That entire room was built out of some next level shit, IIRC Reactron's helmet, a Kryptonian flag and the outer layer of the building also survived relatively unharmed. But yea, clearly neither it or the vault provided any protection aside from shielding her from radiation.

You'd think that Supergirl pounding on the glass and being unable to make a dent would give you a clue but whatever.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He was temporarily taken out (Or stunned) for a brief moment before getting up.



I think it had a crucial part in her surviving, yes. Kara's mother says she'd be safe in the vault:
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15391843_05-09-10_01_10.jpg

She then comes out of the explosion almost unharmed, after this event made it clear Kryptonians are nowhere near planetary level solo? Yes, I think it was the major factor in her surviving.

That entire room was built out of some next level shit, IIRC Reactron's helmet, a Kryptonian flag and the outer layer of the building also survived relatively unharmed. But yea, clearly neither it or the vault provided any protection aside from shielding her from radiation.

You'd think that Supergirl pounding on the glass and being unable to make a dent would give you a clue but whatever.
He was knocked out however briefly.

From Reactron's gold kryptonite rays. She wasn't talking about the planet blowing up. Its radiation deck for crying out loud.

You're really grasping at the straws here. The same radiation deck was blown apart by Zor-El purging green kryptonite out of supergirl. Now it shields supergirl from a planetary explosion. Way to generalize dude, superman or supergirl are not ordinary kryptonians.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He was knocked out however briefly.

From Reactron's gold kryptonite rays. She wasn't talking about the planet blowing up. Its radiation deck for crying out loud.

You're really grasping at the straws here. The same radiation deck was blown apart by Zor-El purging green kryptonite out of supergirl. Now it shields supergirl from a planetary explosion. Way to generalize dude, superman or supergirl are not ordinary kryptonians.

Okay, I'll go with Beta Ray Bill being stunned instead of a knock out.

I haven't read the entire event in a while but I do have the issue infront of me and so far the facts that I have are:

- Supergirl was shoved into a vault that would keep her safe.
- The foundations of the tower seem to be relatively unharmed.
- Other items such as a tool kit, Reactron's helment, and the Kryptonian flag in the same room survive relatively unscathed.
- The glass panel of the vault wouldn't even crack under blows from a distressed Supergirl.

How else am I suppose to come to any conclusion other than that building, particularly that vault, kept her safe? If it makes you feel assume they rebuilt it far sturdier.

No, I mean Superman and Supergirl as well. No Kryptonian was anywhere close to surviving a planet blowing up, much less unharmed and with Kryptonite in the fray. I don't want to lowball, and I assume you know exactly the scenes I'm talking about.

When I read it, I honestly got the impression that the vault was to protect her in general... shrug

Especially seeing as the writer was a hack who took great pains to make Kryptonians seem weaker than the years of established continuity had represented them as.

Originally posted by -Pr-
When I read it, I honestly got the impression that the vault was to protect her in general... shrug

Especially seeing as the writer was a hack who took great pains to make Kryptonians seem weaker than the years of established continuity had represented them as.

Pretty much my thoughts.

Nice sig btw.

Thanks.

It gets unbelievably grating when every time a writer wants to tell a standalone Thor story, it's his arrogance that's brought up (Even after the Reigning, Ragnarok, and Thor's return saw him evolve significantly) but that issue was somewhat fun.

Yeah, I can see that. You'd think writers would be over it by now.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, I'll go with Beta Ray Bill being stunned instead of a knock out.

I haven't read the entire event in a while but I do have the issue infront of me and so far the facts that I have are:

- Supergirl was shoved into a vault that would keep her safe.
- The foundations of the tower seem to be relatively unharmed.
- Other items such as a tool kit, Reactron's helment, and the Kryptonian flag in the same room survive relatively unscathed.
- The glass panel of the vault wouldn't even crack under blows from a distressed Supergirl.

How else am I suppose to come to any conclusion other than that building, particularly that vault, kept her safe? If it makes you feel assume they rebuilt it far sturdier.

No, I mean Superman and Supergirl as well. No Kryptonian was anywhere close to surviving a planet blowing up, much less unharmed and with Kryptonite in the fray. I don't want to lowball, and I assume you know exactly the scenes I'm talking about.
Feel free to disagree, the scan is there for everyone to see that he was knocked out.

Because the radiation deck isn't enough durable to keep her safe, that's it.

Reactron and the flag weren't in the radiation deck with supergirl. You trying to downplay this feat by bringing out reactron surviving the explosion and thus saying the radiation deck kept supergirl safe is just laughable. Think hard before you post shit like this, the writers don't take the account of flags surviving planetary explosion the same way hulk's pants survive everything including WBH punch.

So, the deck gets blown apart by supergirl discharging remaining kryptonite from her body but it protects her from planetary explosion. Good story bro.

Funnily enough superman was caught up in the explosion along with kryptonite radiation, the scan is just one post away. So in a story which nerfed kryptonians beyond belief and the at their weakest superman and supergirl tank planetary level destruction along with a planet of kryptonite radiation to weaken them which is the highest feat for BRB yet and he got knocked out in one of those blasts. Even Byrne superman has better feats than that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You think they used their flight to stop the ship? Angel and hawkman could do that too, I presume? After all flight is all you need to stop things, right?

1. They used some strength but prob not the same way two people with their feet on the ground used. I am 100% certain they used their flight powers for their feat but not flight alone (of course your body must be able to be able to take on such weight without breaking)

2. I do not believe Angel and hawkman have the the same degree of power as a krptonian.

3. Also im sure you don't think that just because 2 beings have the same powers (even though the very nature of producing it is different) means that they can share the same feat... i hope at least.

right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Feel free to disagree, the scan is there for everyone to see that he was knocked out.

Because the radiation deck isn't enough durable to keep her safe, that's it.

Reactron and the flag weren't in the radiation deck with supergirl. You trying to downplay this feat by bringing out reactron surviving the explosion and thus saying the radiation deck kept supergirl safe is just laughable. Think hard before you post shit like this, the writers don't take the account of flags surviving planetary explosion the same way hulk's pants survive everything including WBH punch.

So, the deck gets blown apart by supergirl discharging remaining kryptonite from her body but it protects her from planetary explosion. Good story bro.

Funnily enough superman was caught up in the explosion along with kryptonite radiation, the scan is just one post away. So in a story which nerfed kryptonians beyond belief and the at their weakest superman and supergirl tank planetary level destruction along with a planet of kryptonite radiation to weaken them which is the highest feat for BRB yet and he got knocked out in one of those blasts. Even Byrne superman has better feats than that.

Agree to disagree then.

The evidence is there for whoever wants to judge themselves.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bill and OF Thor lifted Asgard which is a city. Superman, supergirl, superboy and steel slowed down a ship containing a pocket universe going at near lightspeed which was going to destroy earth. I don't need to say which is superior shared feat, do I?

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389669_action_comics_901__005_zps2a6fea30.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389670_action_comics_901__013_zps81454bd4.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389671_07_zps94fa020b.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389672_08_zps24c8cc80.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389673_09_zps87ec5490.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389674_10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389675_11_zps9e04be17.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/15389676_13_zps26c291dd.jpg

The Thor and Bill ft is far more impressive IMO.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
1. They used some strength but prob not the same way two people with their feet on the ground used. I am 100% certain they used their flight powers for their feat but not flight alone (of course your body must be able to be able to take on such weight without breaking)

2. I do not believe Angel and hawkman have the the same degree of power as a krptonian.

3. Also im sure you don't think that just because 2 beings have the same powers (even though the very nature of producing it is different) means that they can share the same feat... i hope at least.

right?
That theory isn't applicable here. Superman and supergirl don't use flight to support weight, they specifically use their strength. Don't use real life science for comics.

Rogue? Ms Marvel? Any marvel character with flight could've accomplished that then. Of course if it isn't a strength feat anybody with flight can do it irrespective of their strength. Don't back-paddle. Its either just flight or just power.

Your point isn't clear here. What are you trying to say here?Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Agree to disagree then.

The evidence is there for whoever wants to judge themselves.
Just accept you messed up here.

uhuhOriginally posted by carver9
The Thor and Bill ft is far more impressive IMO.
Excluding you of course.

No telling how much speed they took away from the ship since it was never stated. They slowed it down, but to what degree. Then this scan says a lot...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389675/11_zps9e04be17.jpg.html

Whatever Kryptonian under the ship explosion (that has enough power to take out north America) gets annihilated. Bill was tanking attacks that took out planets.

Also, what does the pocket universe have to do with anything? It was contained.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just accept you messed up here.

I'm sorry, but you aren't so important that I can go around in circles with you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Bill and OF Thor lifted Asgard which is a city. Superman, supergirl, superboy and steel slowed down a ship containing a pocket universe going at near lightspeed which was going to destroy earth. I don't need to say which is superior shared feat, do I?


So I don't misunderstand you here, are you saying that the feat was impressive because working together they managed to slow down a decently large ship (Barely, until the engines were reversed) or are you arguing that they lifted a pocket Universe or whatever?

Originally posted by carver9
No telling how much speed they took away from the ship since it was never stated. They slowed it down, but to what degree. Then this scan says a lot...

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389675/11_zps9e04be17.jpg.html

Whatever Kryptonian under the ship explosion (that has enough power to take out north America) gets annihilated. Bill was tanking attacks that took out planets.

Also, what does the pocket universe have to do with anything? It was contained.
Steel was speculating of course. You think slowing down a ship containing a pocket universe going near lightspeed is inferior to lifting a city? Also you want durability feats, compare them with actual durability feats not with speculations. So contained things don't weigh, I see. Also it was breached to the outside universe.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389674/10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg.html

You suck as usual at this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Steel was speculating of course. You think slowing down a ship containing a pocket universe going near lightspeed is inferior to lifting a city? Also you want durability feats, compare them with actual durability feats not with speculations. So contained things don't weigh, I see. Also it was breached to the outside universe.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389674/10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg.html

You suck as usual at this.

Lol...so Steel was speculating even though Superman pretty much agreed with him after his statement? Picking and choosing again bro. You use statements all of the time "except when its going against what you are trying to prove oooorrrr your character".

Don't know why you are bringing up the pocket universe...even with the "barrier being breached, the ship still only had enough force to wipe out a continent and that wasn't due to the size or the weight, it was mainly the speed the ship was going.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm sorry, but you aren't so important that I can go around in circles with you.
That supposed to mean something to me?Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So I don't misunderstand you here, are you saying that the feat was impressive because working together they managed to slow down a decently large ship (Barely, until the engines were reversed) or are you arguing that they lifted a pocket Universe or whatever?
They slowed down a ship going at lightspeed and containing a pocket universe. Take it however it suits you, I'm not going to spoon-feed information to you here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Steel was speculating of course. You think slowing down a ship containing a pocket universe going near lightspeed is inferior to lifting a city? Also you want durability feats, compare them with actual durability feats not with speculations. So contained things don't weigh, I see. Also it was breached to the outside universe.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389674/10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg.html

You suck as usual at this.

How dense was the pocket Universe, how much matter and energy did it contain? At lightspeed in normal space all calculations on moving mass go infinite. An object as large as Asgard being held by two human sized objects would crack the Earth. Both feats defy the laws of Physics and in the Kryptonians case involve the Psionic nature of pre-reboot Kryptonian powers to make sense and in the Asgardians it involves magic. Neither really means physical strength.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so Steel was speculating even though Superman pretty much agreed with him after his statement? Picking and choosing again bro. You use statements all of the time "except when its going against what you are trying to prove oooorrrr your character".

Don't know why you are bringing up the pocket universe...even with the "barrier being breached, the ship still only had enough force to wipe out a continent and that wasn't due to the size or the weight, it was mainly the speed the ship was going.
Yes, he was considering superman stopped it and was no worse for wear after stopping it. This is not choosing and picking, this is simple common sense. Match feats for feats and not feats with statements. I can bring out much low statements than a continent destroying blast killing kryptonians for bill.

That was after the speed was slowed, when they slowed it down it was going to destroy earth. It was still a pocket universe whether it was going to destroy a continent or a house.

Originally posted by Anthony Stark
How dense was the pocket Universe, how much matter and energy did it contain? At lightspeed in normal space all calculations on moving mass go infinite. An object as large as Asgard being held by two human sized objects would crack the Earth. Both feats defy the laws of Physics and in the Kryptonians case involve the Psionic nature of pre-reboot Kryptonian powers to make sense and in the Asgardians it involves magic. Neither really means physical strength.
Kryptonians no longer have TTK to support weight. Its all strength now.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he was considering superman stopped it and was no worse for wear after stopping it. This is not choosing and picking, this is simple common sense. Match feats for feats and not feats with statements. I can bring out much low statements than a continent destroying blast killing kryptonians for bill.

That was after the speed was slowed, when they slowed it down it was going to destroy earth. It was still a pocket universe whether it was going to destroy a continent or a house.

I can dissect this statement and your scans if I want but I am not going to continue with this because you just don't get it and this isn't going anywhere.

Lol...read above. I'm leaving this one alone bro. Not going anywhere.

The ship moved at lightspeed and it's size was definetly larger then a small village or city, judging from the art. Speed increases the mass of an object, so this object moving at the speed of light had definitely greater mass then Asgard... by far. That's not arguable.

This feat is more impressive. Fact.

And lot at flight slowing this down. It's plain and simple the writer wanted to show a strength feat.

Originally posted by carver9
I can dissect this statement and your scans if I want but I am not going to continue with this because you just don't get it and this isn't going anywhere.

Lol...read above. I'm leaving this one alone bro. Not going anywhere.
Concession accepted carv.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Concession accepted carv.



you have the scan how it ends? How it's stopped etc. Never read the Doomslayer arc to the end.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Concession accepted carv.




I'm not conceding...I'm trying to help you.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
you have the scan how it ends? How it's stopped etc. Never read the Doomslayer arc to the end.
Superman stops it. I don't have the scans atm.Originally posted by carver9
I'm not conceding...I'm trying to help you.
Just like Hulk/GL scene, you are too stubborn for your own good.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not conceding...I'm trying to help you.

http://i.imgur.com/QHshXJn.gif

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman stops it. I don't have the scans atm.
Just like Hulk/GL scene, you are too stubborn for your own good.

Me posting a scene from that fight isn't an impact on me, its me showing Hulk strength. Like I've told you before, we are going in circles with something that is obvious. I admit when I am wrong and this topic I am 100% correct.

Originally posted by -Pr-
http://i.imgur.com/QHshXJn.gif

Originally posted by carver9
Me posting a scene from that fight isn't an impact on me, its me showing Hulk strength. Like I've told you before, we are going in circles with something that is obvious. I admit when I am wrong and this topic I am 100% correct.


I don't know what is sadder, you trying to save face from that cluster**** or your delusions here.

Originally posted by abhilegend


I don't know what is sadder, you trying to save face from that cluster**** or your delusions here.

Originally posted by carver9


Do you think anyone actually believes what you said?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That theory isn't applicable here. Superman and supergirl don't use flight to support weight, they specifically use their strength. Don't use real life science for comics.

Rogue? Ms Marvel? Any marvel character with flight could've accomplished that then. Of course if it isn't a strength feat anybody with flight can do it irrespective of their strength. Don't back-paddle. Its either just flight or just power.

Your point isn't clear here. What are you trying to say here?
Just accept you messed up here.

uhuh
Excluding you of course.

i will be more direct with you...

I believe it was the power of their flight plus body strength (but still more their flight than anything as I already said) that allowed them to do it. But you don't believe that. Okay, i guess we disagree.

Again i said not all people with similar powers have the exact same power level. DO YOU GET THAT? It would be like comparing Mystque to Plastic man ... they can mold their body but they are on totally different levels. DO YOU GET THAT? having similar powers does not make you =. Idk why you are trying to claim the contrary.

Also i don't think you know what back-peddle means or you just don't know how to use it properly.

anyway back on topic...

The 3rd part was to basically a coy way to help you not look silly but forget about that....

Originally posted by carver9

Exactly.Originally posted by Lord Feron
i will be more direct with you...

I believe it was the power of their flight plus body strength (but still more their flight than anything as I already said) that allowed them to do it. But you don't believe that. Okay, i guess we disagree.

Again i said not all people with similar powers have the exact same power level. DO YOU GET THAT? It would be like comparing Mystque to Plastic man ... they can mold their body but they are on totally different levels. DO YOU GET THAT? having similar powers does not make you =. Idk why you are trying to claim the contrary.

Also i don't think you know what back-peddle means or you just don't know how to use it properly.

anyway back on topic...

The 3rd part was to basically a coy way to help you not look silly but forget about that....
Ooh, I'm scared.

Its not. I can produce any number of proofs to support my stance. What do you have to prove your stance? Your opinion?

I was mocking your point that it was just flight, don't get all riled up. So now flight adds power to lift things up?

Also you don't get to criticize people for their spelling mistake with stuff like "Mystque to Plastic man " in the same post.

durly

Abhi's attitude aside, he is right about one thing: You have to prove that flight in and of itself is both separate to strength and that it boosts it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Abhi's attitude aside, he is right about one thing: You have to prove that flight in and of itself is both separate to strength and that it boosts it.

Learn from this guy ABHI.

Originally posted by carver9
Learn from this guy ABHI.

You could learn a thing or two... Or fifty.

Originally posted by carver9
Learn from this guy ABHI.
@this coming from you. You at least cost pr a dozen porn films which he missed trying to rein you in.

biscuits

Originally posted by -Pr-
You could learn a thing or two... Or fifty.

Lol...I rarely give compliments. Accept it and move on.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I rarely give compliments. Accept it and move on.

I'm trying to help you Carver; why do you fight it?

Originally posted by -Pr-
You could learn a thing or two... Or fifty.
Leave BritneyCarter alone!!!
http://i.imgur.com/7iyWKUd.gif

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not conceding...I'm trying to help you.

You're the one that needs help.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Exactly.
Ooh, I'm scared.

Its not. I can produce any number of proofs to support my stance. What do you have to prove your stance? Your opinion?

I was mocking your point that it was just flight, don't get all riled up. So now flight adds power to lift things up?

Also you don't get to criticize people for their spelling mistake with stuff like "Mystque to Plastic man " in the same post.

durly

scared? not even sure what that refers to... anyway

It just doesn't make sense to me. For example like if you put hulk on a the front of a space ship (doesn't have to be that space ship that you posted) and tell him to slow it down or stop it. it would be pretty hard because he doesn't have any flight but if he had something underneath him he could just toss it away. Just makes sense. I would like to see what you have that proves this. Don't take this as "I DEMAND PROOF OF YOU SIDE WITHOUT ME HAVING TO SHOW ANY" (because this is something you would cry about) I just honestly would like to know that it is a fact that strength = flight.

Mocking my point, so you mean childish dribble, nice. I'll be sure to cut those parts out.

You don't make the rules here spelling nazi! But it's good to know that it pisees u offt adl aodi.

But PR is right i should have some proof but that's probably not gonna be happen to be honest...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Steel So contained things don't weigh, I see. Also it was breached to the outside universe.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15389674/10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg.html

You suck as usual at this.
U kiddin me? U should have stopped at a really big spaceship traveling fast enough to blow up a continent. The pocket universe thing has no bearing. Ure adding to something that's not really there.. Now u saying they slowed down the weight of a whole universe. What's next, they stopped a ship that contributed to 1/4 the energy of a big bang?

If you want to talk about the pocket universe, then the feat becomes unquantifiable.

Stopping the ship alone is a good feat, as is the Asgard one, and people need to stop lowballing.

So stopping a ship by flying in the opposite direction is a strength feat?
No... it would qualify as how fast they could fly, that's what's stopping it not strength.

Why?

How would it be a strength feat if they can't push off anything?
Now if it was Superman standing there lifting it yeah thats strength.
Explain how it is a strength feat, rather then flying?

Originally posted by armedforbattle
How would it be a strength feat if they can't push off anything?
Now if it was Superman standing there lifting it yeah thats strength.
Explain how it is a strength feat, rather then flying?

Because he's using his hands? Because he's pushing his weight against something?

Like I said, you have to prove that flight, as a separate entity, is somehow able to not be linked to his strength and yet at the same time equal to it.

I'm not saying there is no strength used at all, obviously there is a ton of wait he slowing down. Its the same basic idea as moving planets around, its more of a flying feat IMO

I'm also forgetting this is comic book logic we have to use, so it probably doesn't make sense.

Beta Ray Bill version of Supergirl. Would you hit? I'm not talking about Sarah Jessica Parker either.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
scared? not even sure what that refers to... anyway

It just doesn't make sense to me. For example like if you put hulk on a the front of a space ship (doesn't have to be that space ship that you posted) and tell him to slow it down or stop it. it would be pretty hard because he doesn't have any flight but if he had something underneath him he could just toss it away. Just makes sense. I would like to see what you have that proves this. Don't take this as "I DEMAND PROOF OF YOU SIDE WITHOUT ME HAVING TO SHOW ANY" (because this is something you would cry about) I just honestly would like to know that it is a fact that strength = flight.

Mocking my point, so you mean childish dribble, nice. I'll be sure to cut those parts out.

You don't make the rules here spelling nazi! But it's good to know that it pisees u offt adl aodi.

But PR is right i should have some proof but that's probably not gonna be happen to be honest...
Mocking again to your direct approach to me.

Yeah, its not like hulk has stopped a planet from falling apart with his bare hands or something, has he? This isn't real life, superman has specifically said he is using strength to lift things up and not flight.



Happy?

Your whole stance is so laughable that I can't stop mocking it. Its "I don't like this feat, so I would just nitpick it to death" at finest.

Pissed me? I'm just laughing at you and your "back-paddling".
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
U kiddin me? U should have stopped at a really big spaceship traveling fast enough to blow up a continent. The pocket universe thing has no bearing. Ure adding to something that's not really there.. Now u saying they slowed down the weight of a whole universe. What's next, they stopped a ship that contributed to 1/4 the energy of a big bang?

Yeah, that's not what happened. Superman stopped a continent buster alone. When they were all stopping the ship, it was going to destroy Earth. Pick something else, your desperation is showing here.Originally posted by armedforbattle
So stopping a ship by flying in the opposite direction is a strength feat?
No... it would qualify as how fast they could fly, that's what's stopping it not strength.
So anybody who is close to kryptonians in flight speed could've stopped it, right? Dawnstar can actually fly faster than them or maybe Ultra-boy using just his flight power could've stopped it, right?

If someone is looking for the actual size of that pocket universe, here they go. Doomslayer wanted it to destroy Earth by expanding to greater than planetary size and collapse into a black hole.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15397652_06_zps2311b743.jpg

This however shows its true size, doomslayer sttes that even at FTL speed which superman used to breach dimensional walls. it would take superman decades to find ship's core.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15397653_12_zps28f229de.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh, I mis-remembered that he was woken up by Stardust. I am not degrading his durability with that scene though, just saying both have survived planets blowing up in their faces. Supergirl's feat is more impressive though since we know new krypton was Earth's size and she was weakened by kryptonite. Also these kinds of feats are meaningless in assessing characters' durability. By this standard superman would likely be more durable than all the other high heralds combined.

I actually agree with you on this one. Supergirl's feat is far more impressive. Mm maybe you should post scans of her taking out the entire Justice League, taking blows from Doomsday and Ultraman. People are seriously underrating her, if they think BRB takes ten out of ten. I can see it going either way.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
I'm not saying there is no strength used at all, obviously there is a ton of wait he slowing down. Its the same basic idea as moving planets around, its more of a flying feat IMO

I'm also forgetting this is comic book logic we have to use, so it probably doesn't make sense.
The key is Force = mass x acceleration

The more force you apply then the quicker you slow something down or speed something up (the more acceleration you cause).

For example, assuming no other gravity forces acting, if you applied 100lb (444.8N) of force to the moon 7.35 x 10^22 kg then it would take you over 23,000 years just to move it 1 mile.

Proof:

D= 1/2a t^2 (no initial velocity)
=> t= sqrt (2D/a)

Now a = F/m
=444.8N/7.35e22kg
=6.05e-21m/s^2

D= 1 mile = 1609m

so t = sqrt ( 2*1609/6.05e-21)
=7.29e11 seconds
=23,123 years

Now assume the moon was traveling at a speed of 1000m/s (about it's orbital speed). Then how long will it take you to stop it using 100lb of force?

Solution:
V= Vo + a t
=> t = (V-Vo)/a
= (V-Vo) / (F/m)
= (0-1000) / (-444.8/7.35e22)
=1.65e23 seconds or
> 5 trillion years

Conclusion, it takes a very large force (strength) to move or slow down a massive object in decent amount of time and distance. Otherwise it would take you forever (but you can still move it). Thus strength is needed, and a lot of it.

bwahahaha

h1 needs to go back to comicvine.

Originally posted by h1a8
Snip.

It's comics, deal with it.

Originally posted by h1a8
The key is Force = mass x acceleration

The more force you apply then the quicker you slow something down or speed something up (the more acceleration you cause).

For example, assuming no other gravity forces acting, if you applied 100lb (444.8N) of force to the moon 7.35 x 10^22 kg then it would take you over 23,000 years just to move it 1 mile.

Proof:

D= 1/2a t^2 (no initial velocity)
=> t= sqrt (2D/a)

Now a = F/m
=444.8N/7.35e22kg
=6.05e-21m/s^2

D= 1 mile = 1609m

so t = sqrt ( 2*1609/6.05e-21)
=7.29e11 seconds
=23,123 years

Now assume the moon was traveling at a speed of 1000m/s (about it's orbital speed). Then how long will it take you to stop it using 100lb of force?

Solution:
V= Vo + a t
=> t = (V-Vo)/a
= (V-Vo) / (F/m)
= (0-1000) / (-444.8/7.35e22)
=1.65e23 seconds or
> 5 trillion years

Conclusion, it takes a very large force (strength) to move or slow down a massive object in decent amount of time and distance. Otherwise it would take you forever (but you can still move it). Thus strength is needed, and a lot of it.
h1+a8 - pc + kmc = f/ag

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
h1 needs to go back to comicvine.

He'd be a top tier over there He'd also be ruthless.

I've never seen such sensitive posters >_>

Originally posted by Damborgson
He'd be a top tier over there He'd also be ruthless.

I've never seen such sensitive posters >_>
Comicvine is what one gets when people plagiarize stuff from KMC to another forum, and then load up said forum with a bunch of dimwitted morons.

In a nutshell, comicvine is to KMC what Bizarro is to Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that's not what happened. Superman stopped a continent buster alone. When they were all stopping the ship, it was going to destroy Earth. Pick something else, your desperation is showing here.
Smh..
U mad? Whenever u start not making sense that's usually when ure getting desperate. It's just funny u make Supes the central figure in a thread not even about him... Sigh..

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Comicvine is what one gets when people plagiarize stuff from KMC to another forum, and then load up said forum with a bunch of dimwitted morons.

In a nutshell, comicvine is to KMC what Bizarro is to Superman.
That sounds about right.

It has its elite few though. The guy who challenged me to the bastardized battlezone did about as well as anyone could with World War Hulk. The voting system is hilarious though.

Anime/Manga fanboys are a dominant speicies over there also. Frieza's beating Thanos, SSJ3 Goku's challenging entire pantheons yada yada yada.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That sounds about right.

It has its elite few though. The guy who challenged me to the bastardized battlezone did about as well as anyone could with World War Hulk. The voting system is hilarious though.

Anime/Manga fanboys are a dominant speicies over there also. Frieza's beating Thanos, SSJ3 Goku's challenging entire pantheons yada yada yada. I don't know about Frieza beating Thanos, but SS3 challenging entire pantheons seems about right

Originally posted by Damborgson
That sounds about right.

It has its elite few though. The guy who challenged me to the bastardized battlezone did about as well as anyone could with World War Hulk. The voting system is hilarious though.

Anime/Manga fanboys are a dominant speicies over there also. Frieza's beating Thanos, SSJ3 Goku's challenging entire pantheons yada yada yada.
Buckshot is the only "elite" I know about. The fact that comicvine employs trolls like Vance_Astro(the same guy argued for 90+ pages in the Supergirl VS Thanos thread, guess whom he voted for?) as their mods is indicative of the quality of that board.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Buckshot is the only "elite" I know about. The fact that comicvine employs trolls like Vance_Astro(the same guy argued for 90+ pages in the Supergirl VS Thanos thread, guess whom he voted for?) as their mods is indicative of the quality of that board.

TheAcidSkull is another one imo.

90+pages? Jesus. He really wanted to win that one lol.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I don't know about Frieza beating Thanos, but SS3 challenging entire pantheons seems about right

It is over there for sure. Odin's got nothing on that beautiful ssj3 hair.

Me and Carver are going to the new movie when it comes out.

When we get back, we'll tell you how bad the SS God beats Celestials

Originally posted by Damborgson
TheAcidSkull is another one imo.

90+pages? Jesus. He really wanted to win that one lol.

Never heard of that one.

You should check out the Thanos VS Wonder Woman thread. The DC side was being portrayed as the epitome of intelligent debating, while the Marvel side was being disparaged in a manner quite similar to what LordofMurder does with quan.

Edit: It's as Srank once said: their tendency to gang-troll is the most annoying aspect of that board. Judging by the maturity shown by those posters, you'd say most of them haven't even grown pubes yet.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Never heard of that one.

You should check out the Thanos VS Wonder Woman thread. The DC side was being portrayed as the epitome of intelligent debating, while the Marvel side was being disparaged in a manner quite similar to what LordofMurder does with quan.

Edit: It's as Srank once said: their tendency to gang-troll is the most annoying aspect of that board. Judging by the maturity shown by those posters, you'd say most of them haven't even grown pubes yet.
Yeah, I'll give it a look through and see how long it takes for me to black out.

That is absolutely spot on on the gang trolling You post something and bout 5 different posters have said something along the lines of "You can't be serious" "really? lol" "Me no am Bizzaro"

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Me and Carver are going to the new movie when it comes out.

When we get back, we'll tell you how bad the SS God beats Celestials

Oh, well you don't gotta invite or anything...I'll just look at some porn till you guys get back I guess.
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/619/Untitled-1.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Smh..
U mad? Whenever u start not making sense that's usually when ure getting desperate. It's just funny u make Supes the central figure in a thread not even about him... Sigh..
So nothing but your usual "SMH, Are you serious" routine, eh? Go away.

DBZ fanboys are hilarious... if we applied the same kind of illogical powerscaling they did then you could make a case for Spider-Man being able to destroy the solar system.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Super girl ends him. Not even sure how beta ray bill could even touch her. He doesn't even have thors speed feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that's not what happened. Superman stopped a continent buster alone. When they were all stopping the ship, it was going to destroy Earth. Pick something else, your desperation is showing here.

The fruk? That's not what happened. Stopped it alone?
Originally posted by abhilegend
So nothing but your usual "SMH, Are you serious" routine, eh? Go away.
And this weight of the universe thing is laughable.

I literally just randomly picked a page, read two posts and...

Originally posted by -Pr-
When I read it, I honestly got the impression that the vault was to protect her in general... shrug

Especially seeing as the writer was a hack who took great pains to make Kryptonians seem weaker than the years of established continuity had represented them as.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Pretty much my thoughts.

No.



http://www.newsarama.com/comics/War-Supermen-Gates-Spoilers-100512.html

edit: Raoul, notice how it was Sterling and not Robinson who came up with it? Say a lot.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
So stopping a ship by flying in the opposite direction is a strength feat?
No... it would qualify as how fast they could fly, that's what's stopping it not strength.

http://images.wikia.com/theamazingworldofgumball/images/8/89/Funny-gif-man-jump-out-the-window.gif

Yep, hopefully the next thread will be better.

Another day on KMC.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The fruk? That's not what happened. Stopped it alone? Can you read? Steel took supergirl and superboy away from the ship. Honestly?

That's why you're a marvel dickrider. You think your opinion which is pathetically biased means anything? Post a proof that it didn't carry the weight of a universe or GTFO and stop wasting my time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Can you read? Steel took supergirl and superboy away from the ship. Honestly?
U sure u wanna go with that? Last chance...

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's why you're a marvel dickrider. You think your opinion which is pathetically biased means anything? Post a proof that it didn't carry the weight of a universe or GTFO and stop wasting my time.
Wow.. Ure the one who has to prove it was universal weight instead of a really big ship..

Abhi, warned for bashing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Abhi, warned for bashing.
uahahaha. Ish cool.. We just havin fun. It's almost a term of endearment for me.

Consider yourself warned also. badawe

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
U sure u wanna go with that? Last chance... Lulz. Go ahead.


And why would I do that? The ship contained a pocket universe, its your job to prove that it was weightless or some other shit.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Abhi, warned for bashing.
Sorry. Drank too much for our festivel yesterday.

Originally posted by Damborgson

Anime/Manga fanboys are a dominant speicies over there also. Frieza's beating Thanos, SSJ3 Goku's challenging entire pantheons yada yada yada.

It's so out of control right now that there's a ban on anime/manga because of the new DBZ movie with Goku ascending to God Sayian. Funny thing is, it's not even released yet.

Originally posted by Sundipped
It's so out of control right now that there's a ban on anime/manga because of the new DBZ movie with Goku ascending to God Sayian. Funny thing is, it's not even released yet.

Yikes. Imagine when the movie is actually released.

I wonder what would happen if I bash Pr. Hhhhmmm. :P

Just playing buddy.

Originally posted by carver9
I wonder what would happen if I bash Pr. Hhhhmmm. :P

Just playing buddy.

Banned for calling me buddy.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Banned for calling me buddy.

good one.

Let me go back to one of your previous posts.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that's not what happened. Superman stopped a continent buster alone. When they were all stopping the ship, it was going to destroy Earth. Pick something else, your desperation is showing here.
Let's dissect that.

"When they were all stopping the ship, it was going to destroy Earth."
Together (Supes, Kara, Conner, and Steel) they were able to slow the ship down making Doomslayer concerned that the impact may not destroy ALL life on earth. That prompted Doomslayer to change his plans.
http://imageshack.us/f/4/21845299d.jpg/

"Yeah, that's not what happened. Superman stopped a continent buster alone."
No he did not stop the ship alone. Where are you getting that from? I know you love to embellish when Supes is involved, but that's a flat out lie. Together as a group they stopped the ship. Emphasis on together.
http://imageshack.us/f/805/39486816.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/826/45277961.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/18/85484060.jpg/

It's true Supes was the main contributor to the stoppage, but they did as a group. He did not stop it alone. After Doomslayer reversed the engines making it only strong enough to possibly destroy a continent, they slowed the descent as a group. Kara, Conner, and Steel helped enough for him to finish the job. He himself said "wait until the last moment, then fall away to help the relief effort."

Once again ure caught embellishing to prop up ure sweetheart. Smh... Again why did you ever bring this up on a BRB vs Kara thread? Pshh...

BRB still wins.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Let me go back to one of your previous posts.

Let's dissect that.

"When they were all stopping the ship, it was going to destroy Earth."
Together (Supes, Kara, Conner, and Steel) they were able to slow the ship down making Doomslayer concerned that the impact may not destroy ALL life on earth. That prompted Doomslayer to change his plans.
http://imageshack.us/f/4/21845299d.jpg/

"Yeah, that's not what happened. Superman stopped a continent buster alone."
No he did not stop the ship alone. Where are you getting that from? I know you love to embellish when Supes is involved, but that's a flat out lie. Together as a group they stopped the ship. Emphasis on together.
http://imageshack.us/f/805/39486816.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/826/45277961.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/18/85484060.jpg/

It's true Supes was the main contributor to the stoppage, but they did as a group. He did not stop it alone. After Doomslayer reversed the engines making it only strong enough to possibly destroy a continent, they slowed the descent as a group. Kara, Conner, and Steel helped enough for him to finish the job. He himself said "wait until the last moment, then fall away to help the relief effort."

Once again ure caught embellishing to prop up ure sweetheart. Smh... Again why did you ever bring this up on a BRB vs Kara thread? Pshh...

BRB still wins.

*****, please. You fail so hard, its not even funny.

This is what was Doomslayer's idea of destroying ALL LIFE.


http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/06_zps2311b743.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/action_comics_901__016_zpsa5228ce6.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/action_comics_901__013_zps81454bd4.jpg

Also selective scanning is fun. But in this case, you went even ahead. Steel is removing supergirl and superboy in the very next page while they are still in orbit as in the last few scans. Lets see the whole sequence


http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/16_zps770954df.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/15_zpse2a7d092.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/14_zps8ac578bc.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/13_zps26c291dd.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/12_zps1daf926e.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/11_zps9e04be17.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/10_zps3b9e1f5e.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/09_zps87ec5490.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/FTL%20FORCES/08_zps24c8cc80.jpg

Why do you think you can lowball here is beyond me. Its the same case everytime, soulfire darkseid anybody? Remain the marvel dickrider and apologist as always celey. It suits you.
Edit:Oops, the images are in reverse order.