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Frieza is up to his usual, he's trying to conquer the universe. This time Ben is standing in his way.

Ben has his ultimate omnitrix. He can change freely between his aliens and has no time limits.

1. Both guys fight in character
2. Both are bloodlusted


Who wins?

Frieza, both times.

If Ben can change into his ultimate universe creating alien he'd casually wipe out both Frieza and the entire DBZ verse for that matter.

Otherwise lolstomp in favor of Frieza.

Why would they give him something like that?

He still loses round one, at least, though I'm pretty sure Frieza can blitz him both times.

Putting BEN 10 against a Planet Buster is just absurd.

lol


Frieza ****in stomps.

...frieza

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Why would they give him something like that?

He still loses round one, at least, though I'm pretty sure Frieza can blitz him both times.

He could quite easily. But he is overly confident so it would be possible. But yeah this is in no way fair.

Frieza beats up Ben 10

If Ben is bloodlusted.. and his alien forms are still him.. and the other two heads in his Alien X form are him.. would they be bloodlusted too?


If so he stomps.

Chromostone/upchuck can redirect all energy based attacks. Plus aliens likw goop, bigchill, ghostfreak, and nanotech would be pretty hard to punch out. Not to mention most of his alien can survive in space, so the whole blowing up the planet may not be the best strategy for freiza.

The energy he's eaten doesnt compete with what Freeza's packin'. The only things that can survive a punch is intangible ones, who can do very little here.

They can survive in space, not so much planetary explosion that leads to that situation.

BigChill has a shot though. He can become intangible and still attack with his frosty freeze. . . Also he can eat metal, so there.

Actually, Chromastone would have ZERO problems absorbing anything Frieza threw at him.

Why? Because Upchuck, Ben's very first energy absorbing alien, consumed an anti-matter bomb that was stated to have the power of a star. Upchuck harmlessly ate the bomb and absorbed into him.

Chromastone is a sort of an upgrade to Upchuck and they once had an energy absorption 'duel' which proved to be a stalemate. (An episode where random aliens from the omnitrix got loose)


Secondly, The Way Big species can fairly easily planet bust with their Cosmic Ray as seen in the Cosmic Destruction video game.

Also, Way Big is faster than Frieza. No shit. He's also easily stronger.

Upchuck has a storage limit to how many he can take, and would get all chunky before he can fire them back. What about attacks much larger than himself?

Wasn't there an up where a mass of mana was too much for him?

What are those 3 category feats?

All members of the upchuck species digest the energy/matter in a shared pocket dimension stomach. Unless freiza has enough power to rip through that, it shouldn't be a problem.

It was an episode where some sort of trans-dimensional beam overloaded Chromastone. But that's unquantifiable. He also absorbed Diagon's energy rays in the last fight, but who knows how much power he packed into them. At any rate, Diagon is immensely more powerful than Frieza as with his power, Ben could've actually reality warped at a universal scale.

As for Way Big, he's faster than light by a great deal once Ben realized his speed. The mere wind from Way Big's running in a circle alone was strong enough to propel a giant Golden Gate Bridge sized monster into the sun.

Way Big was strong enough to partially rip a warp gate that towered over him (he was maybe 10% as tall as it was IIRC) out of the ground, and the kicker was that it was made of Neutronium as stated by Doctor Paradox.

Some powerscaling as well, Way Big is canonically Ben's physically strongest alien (not counting Alien X hax). So he's stronger than Armodrillo, who while Aggregor had that species' strength, was strong enough to punch the hand of one of the giant Celestialsapiens, and actually made the hand quake. The Celestialsapien in question was large mountain sized in that scene, as the Rust Bucket 3, which is the same size as a large commercial jet, was smaller than a thumb tack compared to the fingers when it landed on its hand.

I've seen Upshuck get close to that limit.


Daigon had planet-level beams?

He ran in circles, created a huge water vortex and it lifted the garbage monster into space. Nothing about the Sun was mentioned besides it going in that direction.

Agg didn't move the entire hand, just the area around them. The whole hand moving would make every character move. [And its about a 1x4km area, Town+ in size?) Anyhow, wasn't disagreeing with strength as Freeza hits in the Multi-Cityblock level.




Y'anyhow.. Chuck, Stone and Armo, whether I'm right or you are, will not survive a fight. The only opponent is WayBig who is a threat due to his physical strength. He's going to have trouble tagging him and taking his attacks, seeing as much lesser things have damaged him.

Diagon's beams don't have to be planet level. They just have to pack more power, even if they don't destroy as large an area. Standard issue Infantry plumber rifles have maximum firepower bursts as retardedly high as 3 petawatts according to a Magister. Visually they don't ever destroy a large area of course.

What do you mean he didn't move the entire hand? You could see the edge of the hand moving.

Eugene Son the writer of the episode confirmed Ben sent the garbage monster into the sun in a post at Dwayne McDuffie's forum in one of the main discussion threads. Seemed pretty obvious either way.

It's a superior speed feat to anything Frieza has that's for sure.

Watts over X seconds, and he said maximum bust which says nothing about normal shots or if that is the total power contained. Likely adjustable levels. Pointlessmecomment aside, what makes Daigon's beams more 'powerful' then?

Because if the whole hand moved Agg, Ben, Ben, Kev and the ship would have moved too. Only Gwen did. Watching again its definitely the shockwave as the initial level of the hand doesn't change, it just bubbles up then back down. Less area if its just the base/palm part of its ring finger.. still impressive for shooting a shockwave though like 300m of hand in that manner. And still probably physically stronger than Freeza.

I can walk from London to Scotland, and just like this it doesn't mean anything without a timeframe. Neither the quote or the scene says anything about sending it there in under 8 mins. In 20 seconds its barely away from the Earth, wouldn't even say it passed the moon at that point. Not faster than Freeza.