Originally posted by Chozone
Huh..your parents let you back on the internet? Or maybe you're on without permission, I'll type this real fast so you can read it before you get grounded for being online without permission
1. At one point did it state that Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks and Goten died from being deprived of oxygen, oh yeah, NEVER. Goku even stated that the explosion killed them. Vegeta also asked if Buu was suicidal,
and Goku stated that he would survive because he could regenerate. If DBZ characters at this point could of survived planetary explosions then this would never have been mentioned
Ah yes, I forgot that being asleep lowers your durability
2. Strong fighters can hurt other strong fighters, here's the kicker, Android 18 threw Vegeta into Trunks and KO'd him, a weaker character nearly dead survived a planetary explosion, but apparently this was too much for Trunks to handle
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/14/143566/2737971-1119769-trunks_gets_owned_super_super.jpg
18 must of hit Trunks with planet busting force, that must explain why the entire landmass of the area was destroyed...oh..wait..
I know this may be hard for you but THINK for a second. Cell was able to pimp slap Vegeta and nearly kill him
http://s01.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/52939/9.jpg
Hell Gohan gets hit by Cell's attack
http://s01.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/52939/11.jpg
http://s01.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/52939/12.jpg
http://s01.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/52939/13.jpg
even though a concentrated back hand would of caused a massive shock wave and leveled the area, and even though his energy ball barely left a crater in the ground
But yeah, Cell was just casually tossing planet destroying attacks which KO'd Vegeta and crippled Gohan..
If you really believe that than I have some magic beans you'll be interested in buying
3. Apparently not
http://s01.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/52908/9.jpg
Even though Vegeta may be able to do this, Trunks was shitting himself and was afraid Vegeta was going to nuke the planet. Trunks can do this according to you, but apparently he doesn't believe his father who spent his entire life training can, or least be confident enough that his father could concentrate the blast directly on Cell.
Another example would be with Perfect Cell stating Goku would of destroyed the Earth if he fired the kamehamea wave from above, so apparently they don't have pin point accuracy and control like you're implying
Let me explain something else, even if they could accurately control their energy and condense it the explosion would remain the same. If Cell shoots a normal energy blast, than shoots the same energy blast but condenses it, when they hit the explosion will be the same. With the scan I showed above of him hitting Gohan it barely left a small crater in the ground.
4. Agreed, especially Trunks with his mountain busting power, he could definitely destroy a planet
Future 18, the one that killed everyone, planet destroying power right here
http://s01.mpcdn.net/manga/p/280/52944/10.jpg
Intent to kill Trunks so you can't make up the BS of her trying to concentrate her attack, Trunks smacks her blast away but what's this? The planet is still intact? The area too? Awesome, looks like 18 at the best is a building buster
Seriously maybe you should just admit that you don't know what the hell you're talking about?
5. Nice, you just argued yourself into a corner. You just stated that Frieza destroying a planet, in this case Planet Vegeta, had more to do with the design of the attack than raw power.
And just for the record I actually agree with you, the two times Frieza did destroy a planet, he did so by sending an energy ball into the core and vaporizing it, he even tried the same shit on Earth until Trunks threw his attack back at him.
Thanks for killing your own argument, I could of honestly just quoted the last part and you could saved me alot of trouble
You're an idiot. That honestly should be enough but for shits and giggles i'll destroy your points all over again.
1. It was stated that they died because Buu blew up the planet. Did Goku acyually see them die? No. He was already gone so there's no way he knew what exactly killed them. Unless of coure you want to paint him as some all knowing being, at best it was a guess. Second it's been shown numerous times that Gohan and company need to "charge up" to boost their durability. Since you like to use filler in your arguments i'll send one your way slappy. Goku is asleep in SSJ form and Krillin hurts him with a rock. A ROCK!!!!! This is a guy that takes mountain crumbling punches when he's at full power. A ROCK!!!!!! Also Piccolo was able to hurt Gotenks with a punch when he was playing around too much. Guess you think Piccolo can hurt him at all times as well too huh? So yeah them being asleep effect their durability greatly. You should really be aware of this.
2. You really have no point here. So because the planet doesn't explode mean the attacks weren't planetary? At what point did Trunks survive an exploding planet? When did any of the Z Fighters survive being cut in half like Freiza? Freiza's body is much different than the hero's therefore you can really compare them. If two people run in to eachother headfirst many injuries can occur but when rams do it with much greater force they are fine. Difference species are built differently smart guy. Trunks couldn't take half the shit Frieza did due to his biology. A better example would be Vegeta tanking something that Trunks could not at a much higher level. Maybe then you'll actaully have a point.
3. Vegeta also has moments of blood lusted rage when all sanity seems to leave his body so it's only natural for Trunks to be concerned. But yeah i guess you're right since Vegeta has never gotten so crazed that he tried to blow up the Earth before with complete disregard for his own life and everyone else's right? Right?
And with Cell it was more about the angle of the shot. Most of the time the guys shoot an attack foward or up and then it eventually falls and hits the ground, mountain ect. This time it looked as if Goku was trying to fire straight thru the Cell and the planet. It's called context. You do know what that means right? Right? RIGHT?!
Wrong. Different type of attacks produce different results. Which is why Piccolo's SBC is much stronger than most of his other attacks but does not produce as much collateral damage. Also Gohan's body took most of that attack which is why there isn't as much damage to the area.
4. Exactly why would 18 want to destroy the planet? And i forgot , tell me again when Trunks has shown "planet exploding in his face durability" again? Also we know the Androids enjoy toying with their victims so why would you believe she was going all out again?
5. If avoiding the point rather than addressing it is what you want to do then fine. planet Vegeta was not just a core attack as it was shown to have destroyed most of the side of the planet it hit before it ever reached the core.
So far it's been established that your knowledge of DBZ is sub par at best. Way to go now everyone knows you're full of shat.
Get over yourself.