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Who would win?

Diana via lasso.

Originally posted by Bentley
Diana via lasso.

Does the lasso have any sealing feature? if not, then she losses.

Diana stomps Itachi.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Diana stomps Itachi.

He can TRAP her in an Eternal Tsukiyomi until she goes insane.

Then again he can get blitzed to hell and back before he can even think about it.

TBH I think it is almost spite.

Diana is strong enough to destroy Susano'o. She is also strong enough to literally make his corpse explode in one hit if she wanted to, granted he will regen. She can fly and is probably the more skilled fighter. She is a light speedster to boot. She has the bracers to deflect/tank amaterasu. And most important of all she has a very Plot Device weapon in her lasso.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Then again he can get blitzed to hell and back before he can even think about it.

TBH I think it is almost spite.

Diana is strong enough to destroy Susano'o. She is also strong enough to literally make his corpse explode if she wanted to, granted he will regen. She can fly and is probably the more skilled fighter. She has the bracers to deflect/tank amaterasu. And most important of all she has a very Plot Device weapon in her lasso.

Remember that this is EDO Tensie revived ITACHI.
Ergo. Cannot die and unlimited amount of chakra.

Diana can beak out of Eternal Tsukiyomi or resist it. Then she can tie him up with the lasso.

Diana puts him in the sun and then flies back.

BFR, and Itachi spends all eternity on the sun. Or at least until it supernovas.

gg

He is gonna wish he could die.

His only chance is Tsukuyomi, and chances of him pulling that off are very slim. There is a possibility that as the champion/embodiment/whatever it is she is/ of truth she could see through the entire illusion. Not saying she will though. Just throwing that out there.

Itachi is pretty tough, intelligent and has a nice bag of abilities with the Mangekyo, but I think Diana is just too much.

This is ITACHI, he will not show himself immediately, Diana will be too busy with clones.

Plus, he is a GENJUTSU specialist, he could have planted a genjutsu in a clone or in the very battlefield.

Remember the Mangekyo rule:

Tsukiyomi can only be broken by a stronger eye or layered by a stronger command such as koto amtsukami.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Diana can beak out of Eternal Tsukiyomi or resist it. Then she can tie him up with the lasso.

HOW?

You have to ask yourself is she invulnerable enough to withstand the intense inextinguishable black flames of amatarasu forever, and can she beat the list of genjutsus like tsukiyomi, izanagi and izanami. Unless she has understanding of chakra she cannot disrupt it to break the genjutsu, and no one one the outside would know how to help her, and these are the only ways to escape genjutsu, especially ones as strong as the ones that come from the mangekyo sharingan that can manipulate reality and control fate. Heck I know Kakashi could beat Wonder Woman, he could use kamui to lock her in another dimension or send her to the sun himself.

I love Itachi, I truly do, heck the Uchiha Clan is my favorite....that being said...Diana is in a league of her own :/....I don't like to admit it but stat wise I'm pretty certain she's head and shoulders above him, like Zack said he's gonna wish he could die :/...Itachi is a truly skilled ninja, but outside his world when placed against a woman who's been shown before to tangle with Supes...I just don't see Itachi even laying a finger on her :/. The speed difference alone is huge..

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Then again he can get blitzed to hell and back before he can even think about it.

TBH I think it is almost spite.

Diana is strong enough to destroy Susano'o. She is also strong enough to literally make his corpse explode in one hit if she wanted to, granted he will regen. She can fly and is probably the more skilled fighter. She is a light speedster to boot. She has the bracers to deflect/tank amaterasu. And most important of all she has a very Plot Device weapon in her lasso.

"Almost spite"?

There's no 'almost' here brah. It is spite.

DCAU Wonder Woman is a different story though.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
"Almost spite"?

There's no 'almost' here brah. It is spite.

DCAU Wonder Woman is a different story though. Yeah. I was being extremely generous to Itachi.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
Does the lasso have any sealing feature? if not, then she losses.

The lasso can extract the soul of Itachi from the body, it can also make him come to face with his personar truth -which has undone other Edo bodies before-, and can simply prevent him from doing anything while Diana throws him into space or whatever.

Diana can also break any genjutsu thanks to the lasso and her goddess of truth attribute, she cannot be fooled by any kind of illusion. The only sort of weapon that Itachi has and might work it's his black fire, which Itachi won't be able to use before getting punked. Heck, Diana can take the fire, then lasso Itachi and use the power of the lasso to make him stop the fire.

This is stupid, Diana is not only leagues beyond him, but she also has the tools to make anything Itachi can throw at her utterly useless.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
HOW?

She's ****ing Wonder Woman. She used to be the God of Truth, she can resist almost any illusions and forms of mind control and dispel illusions with the Lasso of Truth.

Amaratsu would also do nothing, this is woman who's punched nukes and casually flown away afterwards and who can swim in magma.

So by making Itachi an Edo Tensei Zombie the OP is clearly trying to give him an edge because bias and stuff.

I mean it's nigh irrelevant anyway. She wouldn't even half to take him to the Sun like that loser NemeBro said. She could just leave him drifting in space.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
So by making Itachi an Edo Tensei Zombie the OP is clearly trying to give him an edge because bias and stuff.

I mean it's nigh irrelevant anyway. She wouldn't even half to take him to the Sun like that loser NemeBro said. She could just leave him drifting in space.

I'm using Edo Tensei Itachi for him to stand a chance, in his normal form (alive), he is limited in power and chakra.

Remember that genjutsu type ninjas do not fight head-on they use trickery, when you think you are winning and your guard is down that is the time they strike.

YOu are also forgetting Totsuka-no-Tsurugi and Yata no Kagami and he can infinitely spam Susanoo.

At best he can get some genjutsu off. Diana would stomp Susanoo though and if she wants she can chuck him to the other side of the planet.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
I'm using Edo Tensei Itachi for him to stand a chance, in his normal form (alive), he is limited in power and chakra.

Remember that genjutsu type ninjas do not fight head-on they use trickery, when you think you are winning and your guard is down that is the time they strike.

YOu are also forgetting Totsuka-no-Tsurugi and Yata no Kagami and he can infinitely spam Susanoo.

So yeah, bias. You want to allow Itachi to be able to spam everything and well not be killable by easy means.

Not that it really matters. It really doesn't. Itachi barely survived a lightning bolt(in part due to Sasuke giving him time) and Wonder Woman is far faster than that.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
So yeah, bias. You want to allow Itachi to be able to spam everything and well not be killable by easy means.

Not that it really matters. It really doesn't. Itachi barely survived a lightning bolt(in part due to Sasuke giving him time) and Wonder Woman is far faster than that.

Ok, can she resist Totsuka-no-Tsurugi?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
So yeah, bias. You want to allow Itachi to be able to spam everything and well not be killable by easy means.

Not that it really matters. It really doesn't. Itachi barely survived a lightning bolt(in part due to Sasuke giving him time) and Wonder Woman is far faster than that.
That was a hell of a lightning bolt.

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That thing was huge. Diana still stomps him, just saying.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That was a hell of a lightning bolt.

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That thing was huge. Diana still stomps him, just saying.

He was hit because his eyesight is dwindling.

He popped Susanoo before it hit. That's the only way he survived.

Diana pokes his eyes out.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He popped Susanoo before it hit. That's the only way he survived.

Oh, sorry I was thinking of the dragon fire.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Diana pokes his eyes out.

ans realized that it was a clone

That will only annoy her.

You don't want to piss off an amazonian dyke

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
Ok, can she resist Totsuka-no-Tsurugi?

Likely not. Doesn't matter though. She won't be hit by it or anything else in his ninjutsu arsenal. Far too fast and far too agile.



~ But yeah, the King wins and gets a hawt sex slave for his troubles. awesome

Justice League vs Edo Army mmm

Originally posted by Zack Fair
That will only annoy her.

You don't want to piss off an amazonian dyke

That's the thing, ninjas fight by trickery and pissing you opponent until they are lost in it, by now Itachi will know how powerful she is and will not initiate a head on fight.

Itachi is not Naruto with a "HULK SMASH" attitude.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Justice League vs Edo Army mmm

Really would depend on the Justice League. The comics would out and out win but maybe against the Cartoon the battle would be more fair.

But I'm unfamiliar with the Justice League cartoon since it has been quite a while. Sad thing too since DC has an animated universe akin to the awesome Marvel Movieverse.

You should take away her super speed if you want to make it better for Itachi.

As it stands he gets owned for all eternity or until Diana gets bored.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Really would depend on the Justice League. The comics would out and out win but maybe against the Cartoon the battle would be more fair.

But I'm unfamiliar with the Justice League cartoon since it has been quite a while. Sad thing too since DC has an animated universe akin to the awesome Marvel Movieverse. DC animated universe is awesome. You should check out Justice League Doom, Dark Knight Returns part 1 & 2, Wonder Woman, Under the Red Hood, Superman/Batman Apocalype, Superman vs The Elite etc. Great animation and story in all of them.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
You should take away her super speed if you want to make it better for Itachi.

As it stands he gets owned for all eternity or until Diana gets bored.

If you take away her speed would it be WW anymore?

So, does Itachi get the drop on her or something? You're talking as if he has infinite time to prepare and knows all about her while Diana is completely oblivious.

She still stomps him, but its feeling kind of cheap how you're sculpting the fight on the fly to make Itachi win. Some info on how the fight is taking place would be appreciated.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
If you take away her speed would it be WW anymore? Yeah, but at least Itachi has a chance to pull out a new genjutsu out of his ass called "Screw you. Game Over *****!"

She still has vastly superior strength, durability, skill and her equipment that can handle his arsenal, but at least she won't be fighting at speeds that will simply render Itachi a useless slug.

Originally posted by Nephthys
So, does Itachi get the drop on her or something? You're talking as if he has infinite time to prepare and knows all about her while Diana is completely oblivious.

She still stomps him, but its feeling kind of cheap how you're sculpting the fight on the fly to make Itachi win. Some info on how the fight is taking place would be appreciated.

Have you seen Itachi fight? Yes he is a cheap bastard, if you call fighting smartly cheap. He will send clones to estimate his opponents strength then decide on how to do with it, remember that he is no chakra tank when he is alive.

The only time he came-out himself was when he is fighting emoboy (you know the reason) and Jiraiya which is his not so implied contact in leaking AKATSUKI info.

The only time Itachi has used clones in a fight, that I recall, is his very first fight in the series. Otherwise he uses them for communication like twice in the Hunt for Itachi Arc.

Edo Itachi never uses Shadow Clones. Probably because he relies on his immortality instead.

As for analyzing his opponents skills before the fight...he really doesn't. He is basically so strong that he can just beat all of the ninja who fight him. The only fight that legitimately asked him to think was Kabuto but that was thrown out the window once he retrieved Izanami from the deepest recesses of his anus.

The most observant Itachi has been was figuring out Chibaku Tensei.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
The only time Itachi has used clones in a fight, that I recall, is his very first fight in the series. Otherwise he uses them for communication like twice in the Hunt for Itachi Arc.

Edo Itachi never uses Shadow Clones. Probably because he relies on his immortality instead.

As for analyzing his opponents skills before the fight...he really doesn't. He is basically so strong that he can just beat all of the ninja who fight him. The only fight that legitimately asked him to think was Kabuto but that was thrown out the window once he retrieved Izanami from the deepest recesses of his anus.

The most observant Itachi has been was figuring out Chibaku Tensei.

My point is he does not fight head-on, when did you see him in slugfest?

Bee, Kakashi, Nagato(admittedly he had an advantage here), Kabuto, Naruto, and of course Sasuke(but he was planning to die here).

Does Itachi fight with some semblance of strategy? Of course. Most of the ninja in the series do. But Itachi mostly relies on his ability to completely overpower his opponents with his Sharingan techs. Nothing against him that is just how he does things.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Bee, Kakashi, Nagato(admittedly he had an advantage here), Kabuto, Naruto, and of course Sasuke(but he was planning to die here).

Does Itachi fight with some semblance of strategy? Of course. Most of the ninja in the series do. But Itachi mostly relies on his ability to completely overpower his opponents with his Sharingan techs. Nothing against him that is just how he does things.

By slugfest, I mean punching, kicking, trading blows H2H, etc. Admittedly he is not physically as strong as GUY. Plus the fact that he is sick when he is alive (Terminal).

He is a TECH type of ninja. Plus spamming IZANAGI practically turns you invincible. He can buy his time and land Totsuka-no-Tsurugi.

how far apart are they at the start? and do they have knowledge of each others abilities?

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
By slugfest, I mean punching, kicking, trading blows H2H, etc. Admittedly he is not physically as strong as GUY. Plus the fact that he is sick when he is alive (Terminal).

He is a TECH type of ninja. Plus spamming IZANAGI practically turns you invincible. He can buy his time and land Totsuka-no-Tsurugi.

Bee and Kabuto then. Both Edo Tensei version, hinting that he relies on his immortality.

Spamming Izanagi with 2 eyes would buy him, at most, 2 minutes. Most likely less sense he doesn't have Senju Cells but only point of reference.

But he will never land a hit on somebody as fast as Wonder Woman.

i'm guessing you quoted the wrong post.


if the starting distance is decent enough and Wonder Woman doesn't know not to look in his eyes, what exactly is keeping her from getting caught in a genjutsu?

Originally posted by marwash22
how far apart are they at the start? and do they have knowledge of each others abilities?

General Knowledge

Originally posted by marwash22
i'm guessing you quoted the wrong post.


if the starting distance is decent enough and Wonder Woman doesn't know not to look in his eyes, what exactly is keeping her from getting caught in a genjutsu?

What chu talkin bout? uhuh

Originally posted by AuraAngel
The only time Itachi has used clones in a fight, that I recall, is his very first fight in the series. Otherwise he uses them for communication like twice in the Hunt for Itachi Arc.

Edo Itachi never uses Shadow Clones. Probably because he relies on his immortality instead.

As for analyzing his opponents skills before the fight...he really doesn't. He is basically so strong that he can just beat all of the ninja who fight him. The only fight that legitimately asked him to think was Kabuto but that was thrown out the window once he retrieved Izanami from the deepest recesses of his anus.

The most observant Itachi has been was figuring out Chibaku Tensei.

Please tell me you are trolling with the clones comment.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Bee and Kabuto then. Both Edo Tensei version, hinting that he relies on his immortality.

Spamming Izanagi with 2 eyes would buy him, at most, 2 minutes. Most likely less sense he doesn't have Senju Cells but only point of reference.

But he will never land a hit on somebody as fast as Wonder Woman.

Does not edo tensie, specially oro's (the one kabuto is using), bring you to the strongest point and if damaged instantly heal the damage. The thing here is annoying your opponent till they let their guard down or lose hope (Norm for genjutsu users).

Originally posted by marwash22
i'm guessing you quoted the wrong post.


if the starting distance is decent enough and Wonder Woman doesn't know not to look in his eyes, what exactly is keeping her from getting caught in a genjutsu?

He can cast genjutsu even if you do not look into his eyes. He can implant it anywhere.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
General Knowledge what exactly does "general knowledge" entail?


Originally posted by AuraAngel
What chu talkin bout? uhuh lol

Originally posted by marwash22
what exactly does "general knowledge" entail?


lol

What the general public know, not the SHIELD Bios one.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Please tell me you are trolling with the clones comment.

I'm not implying that he can't use clones just that while Edo he doesn't seem to care to since his immortality allows him to do the analyzing without having to make clones. O:

It's certainly possible for him to make clones but I'm just looking at the actions of the character.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
Does not edo tensie, specially oro's (the one kabuto is using), bring you to the strongest point and if damaged instantly heal the damage. The thing here is annoying your opponent till they let their guard down or lose hope (Norm for genjutsu users).

Cause enough damage, and "even an Edo Tensei body will take time to regenerate."

Guess what, Wonder Woman's power output is orders of magnitude higher than Naruto's Planetary Rasengan.
You fail to understand the gap in power between Itachi and Wonder Woman. Imagine Part 1 Hinata fighting against Madara Uchiha, and you'll get an idea of just how outmatched Itachi is here.

Yes, Itachi possesses abilities/techniques that will give him the win, but it doesn't matter as he won't be able to hit Wonder Woman. Just like Hinata has a move that could take out Madara, but it wouldn't matter in the end since Madara could just use her to wipe his ass clean without breaking a sweat.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yes, Itachi possesses abilities/techniques that will give him the win, but it doesn't matter as he won't be able to hit Wonder Woman. why wouldn't genjutsu work?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Cause enough damage, and "even an Edo Tensei body will take time to regenerate."

Guess what, Wonder Woman's power output is orders of magnitude higher than Naruto's Planetary Rasengan.
You fail to understand the gap in power between Itachi and Wonder Woman. Imagine Part 1 Hinata fighting against Madara Uchiha, and you'll get an idea of just how outmatched Itachi is here.

Yes, Itachi possesses abilities/techniques that will give him the win, but it doesn't matter as he won't be able to hit Wonder Woman. Just like Hinata has a move that could take out Madara, but it wouldn't matter in the end since Madara could just use her to wipe his ass clean without breaking a sweat.

Ok, let say that WW land a Planet Busting Shot on Itachi or his clone, Thinking that she won, she will let her guard down while ITACHI reemerges and back-stab her with Totsuka-no-Tsurugi. Since is in the assassination squad, erasing his presence is natural for him.

Don't tell me that she has not been back-stab before or taken by surprise.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
I'm not implying that he can't use clones just that while Edo he doesn't seem to care to since his immortality allows him to do the analyzing without having to make clones. O:

It's certainly possible for him to make clones but I'm just looking at the actions of the character.

We've seen him in what, 6 fights?

He used clones against Kakashi and co. in Part 1.
Didn't use clones against Jiraiya (as far as I can recall).
Used them against Kakashi and co. again in Part 2.
Used them against Sasuke.
Used them against Bee & Naruto (but he was on ET auto-pilot when he did).
Used them against Kabuto (Initiating Izanami)

So that's 4 fights with, 1 without, and 1 that is on the fence, but probably counts.

Certainly he never used them to analyze Kabuto's techniques, and he no doubt let his guard down, but I'm guessing that also may have been because he had an EMS user with equally observant eyes right beside him.

Also, you could do better at concealing your hatred for him.

Originally posted by marwash22
why wouldn't genjutsu work?

He needs eye contact to land all of his genjutsu barring Izanami.

General Knowledge likely means Wonder Woman will know to avoid eye contact with Itachi at the start of the fight. After that, he won't be able to track her.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
We've seen him in what, 6 fights?

He used clones against Kakashi and co. in Part 1.
Didn't use clones against Jiraiya (as far as I can recall).
Used them against Kakashi and co. again in Part 2.
Used them against Sasuke.
Used them against Bee & Naruto (but he was on ET auto-pilot when he did).
Used them against Kabuto (Initiating Izanami)

So that's 4 fights with, 1 without, and 1 that is on the fence, but probably counts.

Certainly he never used them to analyze Kabuto's techniques, and he no doubt let his guard down, but I'm guessing that also may have been because he had an EMS user with equally observant eyes right beside him.

Also, you could do better at concealing your hatred for him.



He needs eye contact to land all of his genjutsu barring Izanami.

General Knowledge likely means Wonder Woman will know to avoid eye contact with Itachi at the start of the fight. After that, he won't be able to track her.

He did cast a genjutsu on Naruto without Naruto looking in his eyes.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He needs eye contact to land all of his genjutsu barring Izanami.

General Knowledge likely means Wonder Woman will know to avoid eye contact with Itachi at the start of the fight. After that, he won't be able to track her. that's why i was asking what general knowledge entails. If shes knows not to look him in the eye, he has no chance.

Originally posted by marwash22
that's why i was asking what general knowledge entails. If shes knows not to look him in the eye, he has no chance.

That is for TSUKIYOMI, some genjutsu users can cast it as a trap (battlefield or random location), when the victim walks in your tagged.

Does WW know what a Genjutsu is, she is not a ninja. The closest to a ninja she has encounter is BATMAN (tell me if there are others).

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
We've seen him in what, 6 fights?

He used clones against Kakashi and co. in Part 1.
Didn't use clones against Jiraiya (as far as I can recall).
Used them against Kakashi and co. again in Part 2.
Used them against Sasuke.
Used them against Bee & Naruto (but he was on ET auto-pilot when he did).
Used them against Kabuto (Initiating Izanami)

So that's 4 fights with, 1 without, and 1 that is on the fence, but probably counts.

Certainly he never used them to analyze Kabuto's techniques, and he no doubt let his guard down, but I'm guessing that also may have been because he had an EMS user with equally observant eyes right beside him.

Also, you could do better at concealing your hatred for him.

Almost each of those cases are genjutsu, not actual clones. In the case of Kakashi and co. it was a body double created by Pain, not Itachi directly. Apparently the Kabuto one couldn't have been because he couldn't cast genjutsu but pardon me for forgetting the incredibly stupid crow clone technique.

I do not feel like it. uhuh

Also I would make the case that Sasuke is a better strategist. awesome

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Almost each of those cases are genjutsu, not actual clones. In the case of Kakashi and co. it was a body double created by Pain, not Itachi directly. Apparently the Kabuto one couldn't have been because he couldn't cast genjutsu but pardon me for forgetting the incredibly stupid crow clone technique.

I do not feel like it. uhuh

Also I would make the case that Sasuke is a better strategist. awesome

EMOBOY?? HHMMM.

That retard only thinks of himself.

Quite but that really doesn't make a bad strategist.

Just compare their Deidara battles. Who overpowers him and who beats him through legitimate strategy and foresight? 313

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
That is for TSUKIYOMI, some genjutsu users can cast it as a trap (battlefield or random location), when the victim walks in your tagged. There's no prep in this scenario and he wouldn't have time to set traps once the fight starts, so that's not even worth discussing... eye contact would be the only possible way to trap her in a genjutsu.

general knowledge doesn't include details about techs, so I'm gonna say that it's reasonable that he catches her in genjutsu before she blows him up with a punch... if the starting distance is decent enough.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Quite but that really doesn't make a bad strategist.

Just compare their Deidara battles. Who overpowers him and who beats him through legitimate strategy and foresight? 313

I will give you that specially with ORO's Power Set involved.

Originally posted by marwash22
There's no prep in this scenario and he wouldn't have time to set traps once the fight starts, so that's not even worth discussing... eye contact would be the only possible way to trap her in a genjutsu.

general knowledge doesn't include details about techs, so I'm gonna say that it's reasonable that he catches her in genjutsu before she blows him up with a punch... if the starting distance is decent enough.

Agreed with you and I'm not discounting DIANA's strength and battle EXP., what I'm saying is, if the opportunity presents itself, Itachi will surely grab it.

As for the pre-cast genjutsu, I'm just stating a fact and Kurenai can whip one in a flash and Itachi is better than her.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
If you take away her speed would it be WW anymore?


Diana can still counter everything he throws at her, the lasso and the bracelets are still imprevious to all of Itachi's attacks. The lasso is perfect to deal with the likes of Itachi, and Diana has a long history of pulling the lasso on opponents even faster than she is. He cannot really hurt her in anyways and Genjutsu is still useless... So yeah, at some point she'll catch him and take its soul away with the lasso.

Originally posted by Bentley
Diana can still counter everything he throws at her, the lasso and the bracelets are still imprevious to all of Itachi's attacks. The lasso is perfect to deal with the likes of Itachi, and Diana has a long history of pulling the lasso on opponents even faster than she is. He cannot really hurt her in anyways and Genjutsu is still useless... So yeah, at some point she'll catch him and take its soul away with the lasso.

BRACELET - Can it protect her back?

LASSO - Who, a clone or a kawarime (Hope my spelling is right)?

When she is caught in a GENJUTSU, ITACHI will follow with a TSUKIYOMI, activate SUSANOO and finish her with a Totsuka-no-Tsurugi.

If she is not careful, she can be a victim of her own strength via Yata no Kagami

With her speed, she's deflected people shooting at her from front and back at the same time, and even blocked lightning coming from multiple directions.



Oh, yea... at one point she lost her eyes, so the goddess Athena gave her new eyes, that could see through illusions and all that.

Also she can fight at full power completely blind.

I would not bet on genjutsu being too effective on her.

Originally posted by Q99
With her speed, she's deflected people shooting at her from front and back at the same time, and even blocked lightning coming from multiple directions.



Oh, yea... at one point she lost her eyes, so the goddess Athena gave her new eyes, that could see through illusions and all that.

Also she can fight at full power completely blind.

I would not bet on genjutsu being too effective on her.

So how can she hit him if she gauge her eyeballs again, your talking about an assassin who can make his presence disappear or is DIANA a sensor type also?

Diana once beat up the Justice League while blindfolded relying totally on sound and yes, at one point Batman tried to sneak attack her (he wasn't supposed to be in the fight) and she detected him and took him down.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Diana once beat up the Justice League while blindfolded relying totally on sound and yes, at one point Batman tried to sneak attack her (he wasn't supposed to be in the fight) and she detected him and took him down.

So tell me, who is better at sneaking BATS or Weasel?

Would Wonder woman even know enough about Itachi to know to avoid or even how to avoid his genjutsu? Its not like you can see the genjutsu coming your way to dodge it, all you have to do is look in his eyes, or have him point a finger at you and he got you, and some of his most powerful genjutsu aren't as simple as that.

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
Would Wonder woman even know enough about Itachi to know to avoid or even how to avoid his genjutsu? Its not like you can see the genjutsu coming your way to dodge it, all you have to do is look in his eyes, or have him point a finger at you and he got you, and some of his most powerful genjutsu aren't as simple as that.

Agreed

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
Agreed At last someone who can agree with me.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
BRACELET - Can it protect her back?

LASSO - Who, a clone or a kawarime (Hope my spelling is right)?

When she is caught in a GENJUTSU, ITACHI will follow with a TSUKIYOMI, activate SUSANOO and finish her with a Totsuka-no-Tsurugi.

If she is not careful, she can be a victim of her own strength via Yata no Kagami

The lasso and her God of truth powers make it so she won't be tricked by clones -she can see through any illusions-, she won't be affected by Genjutsu -she can see through any illusions-. And frankly, the rest of Itachi's abilities barring maybe the mirror are pretty useless considering she only needs to bind him with the lasso.

What are the mirror's best feats anyways? I don't exactly see how the mirror will keep Itachi from being lassoed.

Originally posted by Bentley
The lasso and her God of truth powers make it so she won't be tricked by clones -she can see through any illusions-, she won't be affected by Genjutsu -she can see through any illusions-. And frankly, the rest of Itachi's abilities barring maybe the mirror are pretty useless considering she only needs to bind him with the lasso.

What are the mirror's best feats anyways? I don't exactly see how the mirror will keep Itachi from being lassoed.

The mirror/shield is said to reflect anything thrown at it (that's what I read, could not remember, correct me if I'm wrong)

The problem with such a definition is that it leads to an infinity fallacy pretty quickly

Originally posted by Q99
Oh, yea... at one point she lost her eyes, so the goddess Athena gave her new eyes, that could see through illusions and all that.

Also she can fight at full power completely blind.

I would not bet on genjutsu being too effective on her. genjutsu isn't a magical projection that exists in the outside world that can be seen through with the eyes, it's something that directly messes with your body... it's literally inside of the victim's head, there's no seeing through it, you have to detect that something is wrong with your body.

That said, if she somehow figures out that she's under, how would she know how to break herself out of it?

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
The mirror/shield is said to reflect anything thrown at it (that's what I read, could not remember, correct me if I'm wrong)

Here is the real deal

The Yata Mirror was equipped to Itachi's Susanoo, in its left hand and, is considered one of the three sacred treasures. It is said to be endowed with all nature transformations and as such changes its own characteristics depending on those of the attack it receives, making the attack entirely ineffective. Zetsu claimed that this, combined with the Sword of Totsuka held in its right hand, essentially made Itachi's Susanoo invincible.

It does not return attacks but rather nullifies it.

Originally posted by marwash22
genjutsu isn't a magical projection that exists in the outside world that can be seen through with the eyes, it's something that directly messes with your body... it's literally inside of the victim's head, there's no seeing through it, you have to detect that something is wrong with your body.

That said, if she somehow figures out that she's under, how would she know how to break herself out of it?

She has no idea what chakra is. So no.

Originally posted by remigio_coldez
So tell me, who is better at sneaking BATS or Weasel?

Batman is a better ninja than Itachi.

Originally posted by marwash22

That said, if she somehow figures out that she's under, how would she know how to break herself out of it?

Lasso of truth. Magical enchantments that break illusions of any sort.

She doesn't need to know the ninja way, she can use her way.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Almost each of those cases are genjutsu, not actual clones. In the case of Kakashi and co. it was a body double created by Pain, not Itachi directly. Apparently the Kabuto one couldn't have been because he couldn't cast genjutsu but pardon me for forgetting the incredibly stupid crow clone technique.

I do not feel like it. uhuh

Also I would make the case that Sasuke is a better strategist. awesome

Clones were used at some point in most of those battles. The Kakashi and co. fight in Part 2 may have been a body double created by Pain, but it was still fighting with Itachi's mindset.

And you have the gall to grill someone else because of their Itachi related bias. ahah

Naruto & Bee disagree. vin

EDIT: Nevermind, was recalling incorrectly, couldn't see any clone usage in Kakashi and co. fight in Part 2, apart from the one inside Naruto's genjutsu, but that doesn't count. Ah well, he does use a clone when telling Sasuke where they would have their final battle. 131

Originally posted by marwash22
genjutsu isn't a magical projection that exists in the outside world that can be seen through with the eyes, it's something that directly messes with your body... it's literally inside of the victim's head, there's no seeing through it, you have to detect that something is wrong with your body.

That said, if she somehow figures out that she's under, how would she know how to break herself out of it?

Diana's eyes are magical so they are actually revealing the truth to Diana's soul without passing for her body. It gives her the ability to see through psychic powers which also "mess with your body" and is also literally "inside the victim's head".

Don't make me try to explain how magic in WW comics actually happens

Pit Itachi against someone a few notches below Diana and we will have a fight.

As it stands Diana is vastly physically superior to Itachi in every way, barring Edo regen, and literally has the equipment/skills/abilities to deal with everything Itachi throws at her.

Seriously you will realize Diana just outclasses Itachi and pretty much all Narutoverse when you decide to put fanboy bias aside and simply accept that this dyke can hang on even terms with the likes of Superman and Captain Marvel

Originally posted by Q99
Lasso of truth. Magical enchantments that break illusions of any sort.

She doesn't need to know the ninja way, she can use her way. But how would she even realize she's under, and when (if) she does realizse, she needs to touch the lasso or put it around herself which she wont be able to do because she wont be able to move her body once she's under.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Pit Itachi against someone a few notches below Diana and we will have a fight.

As it stands Diana is vastly physically superior to Itachi in every way, barring Edo regen, and literally has the equipment/skills/abilities to deal with everything Itachi throws at her.

Seriously you will realize Diana just outclasses Itachi and pretty much all Narutoverse when you decide to put fanboy bias aside and simply accept that this dyke can hang on even terms with the likes of Superman and Captain Marvel you can say that as many times as you want, i don't even think anyone disagrees, but it doesn't matter until you answer the question of how she gets out of genjutsu.

Originally posted by Bentley
Diana's eyes are magical so they are actually revealing the truth to Diana's soul without passing for her body. It gives her the ability to see through psychic powers which also "mess with your body" and is also literally "inside the victim's head".

Don't make me try to explain how magic in WW comics actually happens oh, so her eyes will just reveal to her how this completely foreign ability works and give her the answer of how to break free from it?

Originally posted by marwash22
you can say that as many times as you want, i don't even think anyone disagrees, but it doesn't matter until you answer the question of how she gets out of genjutsu. Everyone has answered this question. Denial is a *****? Besides that is assuming she gets caught in it in the first place and given her vast speed advantage that won't be happening.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Everyone has answered this question. Must have missed it. What was the answer?


Originally posted by Zack Fair
Besides that is assuming she gets caught in it in the first place and given her vast speed advantage that won't be happening. lol

Originally posted by marwash22
oh, so her eyes will just reveal to her how this completely foreign ability works and give her the answer of how to break free from it?

No, it probably just won't affect her. Theres a villain named Doctor Psycho who uses illusions and mind-****ery on his opponents.... except Wonder Woman who can't even tell what he's trying to make her see. Shit just slides right off her.

Itachi would have a better chance against Superman than Diana tbh.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, it probably just won't affect her. Theres a villain named Doctor Psycho who uses illusions and mind-****ery on his opponents.... except Wonder Woman who can't even tell what he's trying to make her see. Shit just slides right off her.

Originally posted by marwash22
genjutsu isn't a magical projection that exists in the outside world that can be seen through with the eyes, it's something that directly messes with your body... it's literally inside of the victim's head, there's no seeing through it, you have to detect that something is wrong with your body.


genjutsu isn't the same thing as an illusion projected into reality.

Originally posted by marwash22


lol http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27214373.jpg

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, it probably just won't affect her. Theres a villain named Doctor Psycho who uses illusions and mind-****ery on his opponents.... except Wonder Woman who can't even tell what he's trying to make her see. Shit just slides right off her.

Itachi would have a better chance against Superman than Diana tbh. Torquam Vo/Rao(Forget which one it is) owns the shit out of Itachi's genjutsu.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27214373.jpg no one is forcing you to participate in this discussion; it's okay if you don't have an answer to the question, or simply don't want to answer it for whatever reason, but I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by responding in a manner that completely dodges the question altogether.

Except I never claimed she would get out of the genjutsu. I said there was a possibility that she can and others have gone on to explain how/why they think she can.

yeah, and i went on to explain that the illusions she has seen through in the past (projections into the physical world) work NOTHING like genjutsu.

Genjutsu is also very different from telepathy.

Cool.

Yeah because literally getting into someones head and making them see what you want them to see through genjutsu is so different from literally getting into someones head and making them see what you want them to see through telepathy.

oh wait!

i don't believe you're a dumb person, so I'm not gonna explain why that's wrong.

No, I get it. Obviously telepathy wouldn't affect the persons brain or anything like what genjutsu would do. Telepathy having anything to do with affecting someone mentally is just an urban legend. Like sarcasm.

The end result is the same, but do you really not understand that the method of accomplishing that result is vastly different, or are you trolling?

I don't care if you're trolling, i just wanna know if i should ignore you in this thread or not.

Originally posted by marwash22
oh, so her eyes will just reveal to her how this completely foreign ability works and give her the answer of how to break free from it?


Not really, Genjutsu is an illusion, she will just be able to act as if the illusion wasn't there. It makes you believe as if you were acting when you aren't, but if you actually realize you're inactive, I don't exactly see why you wouldn't just be able to act accordingly. I mean, throwing your notion of time and space entirely results in inaction, it's not as if the inaction was entirely unrelated from the illusion: no illusion means Genjutsu is doing nothing.

Hence, if Diana is able to see through the illusions, she's unaffected by Genjutsu.

I understand that the end result of genjutsu is an illusion... what I'm trying to get you to understand is that the process of creating the illusion is completely different than just casting a spell that projects false images into the physical world. Genjutsu works by changing something in your body... when the genjutsu is performed, there is nothing for her eyes to see... in order to even know that she's under genjutsu, she has to detect the change in her body.

Genjutsu isn't a David Copperfield trick that can be seen through with the eyes.

Originally posted by Bentley
The lasso and her God of truth powers make it so she won't be tricked by clones -she can see through any illusions-, she won't be affected by Genjutsu -she can see through any illusions-. And frankly, the rest of Itachi's abilities barring maybe the mirror are pretty useless considering she only needs to bind him with the lasso.

What are the mirror's best feats anyways? I don't exactly see how the mirror will keep Itachi from being lassoed. The Yata mirror is a spirit shield one of the three sacred treasures that not only reflects everything but nullifies everything, at least as far as we know from Itachi and Sasuke's battle. Besides Itachi uses susanoo to use the yata mirror so the lasso wouldn't be able to reach Itachi to take affect.

"Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques" are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.
This is often used to create false images or to cause pain from trauma (because the body is led to believe it is in pain); however, there are plenty of other uses depending on the situation. They are not used as often as ninjutsu because they don't physically harm the opponent, but several characters have made themselves well-known for their great prowess with genjutsu like Itachi Uchiha, Kurenai Yūhi, the Second Mizukage and Tayuya. Genjutsu can also be used to manipulate others, similar to brainwashing by feeding the victim illusive suggestions, the primary example being Tobi controlling Yagura. However, there exists at least one genjutsu, Izanagi, that has the opposite effects to normal genjutsu, by changing reality to illusion and vice versa. Genjutsu can also be used for other supplementary purposes such as interrogating an individual by breaking their will."

Ok, this settles it, a Genjutsu is the use of an attackers chakra to mess up the opponents brain that explains the AoE genjutsu, you do not need to have eye contact.

Be glad that I do not include KOTO AMATSUKAMI in his power set he does have Shisui's eye at one point.

Originally posted by Bentley
Not really, Genjutsu is an illusion, she will just be able to act as if the illusion wasn't there. It makes you believe as if you were acting when you aren't, but if you actually realize you're inactive, I don't exactly see why you wouldn't just be able to act accordingly. I mean, throwing your notion of time and space entirely results in inaction, it's not as if the inaction was entirely unrelated from the illusion: no illusion means Genjutsu is doing nothing.

Hence, if Diana is able to see through the illusions, she's unaffected by Genjutsu.

Have you seen the SASUKE (Young) and ORO encounter, he has sharingan and knows that he is affected by genjutsu non-the less he was unable to move. Happens to Naruto too via Itachi.

Originally posted by KAIKAGE
The Yata mirror is a spirit shield one of the three sacred treasures that not only reflects everything but nullifies everything, at least as far as we know from Itachi and Sasuke's battle. Besides Itachi uses susanoo to use the yata mirror so the lasso wouldn't be able to reach Itachi to take affect.

Nice one.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Then again he can get blitzed to hell and back before he can even think about it.
Because Diana's top speed of mach five is fast enough to keep up with someone like Itachi.

We have been over this. Even Haku is a confirmed light-speedster. The author said that Haku literally moved at the speed of light. And Haku is mere Genin-level.

Itachi is faster than Diana in his sleep.

Oh my blag, Effect's back, and he's still trying to peddle lightspeed ninja!

Originally posted by Q99
Oh my blag, Effect's back, and he's still trying to peddle lightspeed ninja!
Oh, I almost forgot. You are one of those people who ignore the canon you do not like.

"For Haku, it's possible to move between the mirrors at the speed of light. It's impossible to see attacks send out from this literal light speed movement. For the opponent, nothing is left but to wait in amazement." - Masashi Kishimoto, 1st Data Book of Naruto

Anyone who denies this as canon fact is an idiot.

If Naruto ninja moved at the speed of light then Mabui's Heavenly Transfer Technique would not be required at all.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
If Naruto ninja moved at the speed of light then Mabui's Heavenly Transfer Technique would not be required at all.
Combat speed =/= travel speed.

There's nothing to debate. It's canon.

Why doesn't combat speed=travel speed again?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Why doesn't combat speed=travel speed again?
Because logic.

A Black Belt Karate master kicks at 60 m/s, Usain Bolt runs at 10 m/s.

You're looking at the speed of an attack compared to movement speed. Sasuke must have been moving at lightspeed to dodge Haku and he is only a genin, meaning all ninja above him would have the ability to move at lightspeed.

Sasuke has precog. K1 Naruto was FTL though.

Yet he still must have been moving at faster than light speeds in order to dodge.

And of course characters like Lee and Guy must move at lightspeeds in order to hit Haku.

They aren't just attacking at these speeds, they are moving. There is no difference.

You can't support Combat speed =/= Movement speed then go and say that Haku moving his whole body about 20ft is also combat speed.. less so if you want to compare that movement to a punch or kick.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Yet he still must have been moving at faster than light speeds in order to dodge.
Logic fail.

If he moves out of the path before Haku attacks then Haku will miss.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You can't support Combat speed =/= Travel speed
Support? It's a real life fact. Any anyone who thinks combat speed = travel speed is retarded.

http://i.imgur.com/kKXRsEr.png

By your logic, that man would be the world's fastest runner, by far.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Logic fail.

If he moves out of the path before Haku attacks then Haku will miss.


Support? It's a real life fact. Any anyone who thinks combat speed = travel speed is retarded.

http://i.imgur.com/kKXRsEr.png

By your logic, that man would be the world's fastest runner, by far.

Sasuke was moving out of the way before he awakened the Sharingan per Haku's words and you still haven't addressed Guy and Lee moving at FTL speeds.

The difference there is simple: one guy is moving his leg, runners move their entire body.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Sasuke was moving out of the way before he awakened the Sharingan
Sasuke awakened the Sharingan when Itachi killed his clan. Read the manga.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
The difference there is simple: one guy is moving his leg, runners move their entire body.
Are you being dumb on purpose? You honestly believe that Bolt could kick harder? Get out....

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Oh, I almost forgot. You are one of those people who ignore the canon you do not like.

"For Haku, it's possible to move between the mirrors at the speed of light. It's impossible to see attacks send out from this literal light speed movement. For the opponent, nothing is left but to wait in amazement." - Masashi Kishimoto, 1st Data Book of Naruto

Anyone who denies this as canon fact is an idiot.

Even if he said that, he clearly retconned this when he explicitly had a character explain that no shinobi can possibly dodge a lightning bolt.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Sasuke awakened the Sharingan when Itachi killed his clan. Read the manga.


Are you being dumb on purpose? You honestly believe that Bolt could kick harder? Get out....

Started using it in the fight.

Didn't say that. Running and kicking are two different types of movement. Bolt could probably kick pretty hard but that's besides the point. Sasuke, Lee, and Guy are MOVING(ninja running) at ftl speeds when they dodge Haku.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Because Diana's top speed of mach five is fast enough to keep up with someone like Itachi.


"For Haku, it's possible to move between the mirrors at the speed of light. It's impossible to see attacks send out from this literal light speed movement. For the opponent, nothing is left but to wait in amazement." - Masashi Kishimoto, 1st Data Book of Naruto

Anyone who denies this as canon fact is an idiot.

http://ebengregory.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mj-laughing.gif

facepalm @ this lightspeed angle.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Even if he said that, he clearly retconned this when he explicitly had a character explain that no shinobi can possibly dodge a lightning bolt.
A lightning bolt that turned the mountain they were fighting on into a glass crater? What part of combat speed =/= travel speed don't you understand?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Started using it in the fight.
Sasuke was using it the entire time, it took time for Haku to notice it. If you read the manga you'd know this.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Didn't say that. Running and kicking are two different types of movement.
Point and case. Combat speed =/= travel speed.

After all this bullshit of trying to disprove facts, in the end all you managed to conclude that I was right.

you're an idiot if you think combat speed is the same thing as running speed, but you're also an idiot if you think anyone in Naruto is ftl.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Sasuke was using it the entire time, it took time for Haku to notice it. If you read the manga you'd know this.

Point and case. Combat speed =/= travel speed.

After all this bullshit of trying to disprove facts, in the end all you managed to conclude that I was right.

Oh really? Clearly Sasuke was dodging attacks offscreen without the Sharingan opened.

Well no. Attack speed=/=travel speed. Running to intercept an opponent and the like is still traveling since you're moving.

anyhow, this thread has been derailed.

the arguments for Wondy countering genjutsu have ceased, so i take that as concession that Itachi wins this match.

Originally posted by marwash22
anyhow, this thread has been derailed.

the arguments for Wondy countering genjutsu have ceased, so i take that as concession that Itachi wins this match. http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG

Originally posted by Zack Fair
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG http://clean.alltheragefaces.com/img/usercreated/4fdfbbb3041be.png


mine is bigger. hmph

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Oh really? Clearly Sasuke was dodging attacks offscreen without the Sharingan opened.
Fine, Sasuke was FTL.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Well no. Attack speed=/=travel speed. Running to intercept an opponent and the like is still traveling since you're moving.
Is the concept of acceleration alien to you?

Travel Speed = Low acceleration over a great period of time

Combat Speed = Great acceleration over a short period of time

That would be true...if we weren't talking about lightspeed. Sustaining that speed for even a few miliseconds would allow them to travel hundreds of miles. Meaning that Mabui's technique is, indeed, worthless.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
That would be true...if we weren't talking about lightspeed. Sustaining that speed for even a few miliseconds would allow them to travel hundreds of miles. Meaning that Mabui's technique is, indeed, worthless.
Milliseconds? That's a nice ass-pull.

Anyone with any actual knowledge of science could tell you that acceleration comes in three forms, increasing speed, changing direction, and decreasing speed (deceleration).

But let's disregard the fact that Shinobi are light speed. Because that really doesn't matter to this thread.

What makes you think that Diana who has trouble keeping up with Batman (Her mach 5 is limited to travel speed) could blitz Itachi who can summon Susanoo before in between lightning strikes? (You need both eyes open to summon Susanoo).

http://i.imgur.com/B7emTCw.png

This is priceless.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Support? It's a real life fact. Any anyone who thinks combat speed = travel speed is retarded.

By your logic, that man would be the world's fastest runner, by far.
Way to ignore everything in my post.

I said you cant say you support that while saying that Haku moving his whole body about 20ft is also combat speed, that you can't compare a kick to movements which Haku is doing.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Way to ignore everything in my post.
I usually stop reading a post after I realize that it's based on faulty assumptions and illogic. And simply explain why it's illogical. If I wanted to help retarded kids I'd be a special ed teacher.

Originally posted by BloodRain
I said you cant say you support that while saying that Haku moving his whole body about 20ft is also combat speed, that you can't compare a kick to movements which Haku is doing.
This has to be one of the worst failure of comprehension I've seen to date.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Logic fail.

If he moves out of the path before Haku attacks then Haku will miss.


Support? It's a real life fact. Any anyone who thinks combat speed = travel speed is retarded.

http://i.imgur.com/kKXRsEr.png

By your logic, that man would be the world's fastest runner, by far.

*anyone

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
I usually stop reading a post after I realize that it's based on faulty assumptions and illogic. And simply explain why it's illogical. If I wanted to help retarded kids I'd be a special ed teacher.
Except nothing I said had anything to do with being for or against combat speed. Try reading a post next time.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
This has to be one of the worst failure of comprehension I've seen to date.
Showing a man kicking shows attack speed, which has nothing to do with Haku dashing around, which is whole body movement.

Originally posted by marwash22
Genjutsu works by changing something in your body...

Psychic powers too, Diana has got over those easily.

Also, since nullifying the illusion simply happens... Why do we care how the illusion is made?

Originally posted by Bentley
Psychic powers too, Diana has got over those easily.

Also, since nullifying the illusion simply happens... Why do we care how the illusion is made?

Genjutsu is not a psychic attack, it goes beyond sight, it literally hi-jack someones brains. Some genjutsu victims (non-lethal) are down in the ground and drooling because their brain are virtually in a different world by manipulating it by chakra.

Originally posted by Bentley
Psychic powers too, Diana has got over those easily.

Also, since nullifying the illusion simply happens... Why do we care how the illusion is made? Originally posted by remigio_coldez
"Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques" are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.
This is often used to create false images or to cause pain from trauma (because the body is led to believe it is in pain); however, there are plenty of other uses depending on the situation. They are not used as often as ninjutsu because they don't physically harm the opponent, but several characters have made themselves well-known for their great prowess with genjutsu like Itachi Uchiha, Kurenai Yūhi, the Second Mizukage and Tayuya. Genjutsu can also be used to manipulate others, similar to brainwashing by feeding the victim illusive suggestions, the primary example being Tobi controlling Yagura. However, there exists at least one genjutsu, Izanagi, that has the opposite effects to normal genjutsu, by changing reality to illusion and vice versa. Genjutsu can also be used for other supplementary purposes such as interrogating an individual by breaking their will."

Ok, this settles it, a Genjutsu is the use of an attackers chakra to mess up the opponents brain that explains the AoE genjutsu, you do not need to have eye contact.

Be glad that I do not include KOTO AMATSUKAMI in his power set he does have Shisui's eye at one point.

Originally posted by marwash22

^

Originally posted by Nephthys
Batman is a better ninja than Itachi.

Eh???