Kingdom Come JLA Vs DCnU JLA

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Golgo13
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Delta1938
.....isn't the KC JLA a lot bigger, has an insanely powerful Flash, and an Alan Scott who merged with his Power Battery....?

pym-ftw
huh

Is there some way this isn't spite...

Delta1938
Originally posted by pym-ftw
huh

Is there some way this isn't spite...

Yes. He's completely clueless.

quanchi112
And yet another spite thread.

guy222
hmm

Uriel005
Just saying alan should solo

Golgo13
Originally posted by Uriel005
Just saying alan should solo

What did Alan do in KC that would make him solo? I haven't read KC in a while.

SevenShackles
This is just freaking horrible. Really.. Why make this?
KC slaughters even with it's roster made even in numbers.

Golgo13
Originally posted by SevenShackles
This is just freaking horrible. Really.. Why make this?
KC slaughters even with it's roster made even in numbers.

Why?

SevenShackles
Originally posted by Golgo13
Why?

You want any sort of serious reply then do yourself the favor and pick out the member of KC JL that will fight this team. KC flash alone is capable of removing flash, batman and cyborg (maybe not in that order) at the opening bell of this fight. Never mind the KC supes with higher magical resistance and proven stronger than Pre flashpoint superman, star man and the Alan Scott who is a power battery and was able of creating a self sustaining, massive and complex emerald space station. (iv seen it argued he could take lesser green lanterns rings away off the death stroke/Kyle Rayner feat) never mind everyone else. Just bring some sort of actual construction to this fight.

Golgo13
Originally posted by SevenShackles
You want any sort of serious reply then do yourself the favor and pick out the member of KC JL that will fight this team. KC flash alone is capable of removing flash, batman and cyborg (maybe not in that order) at the opening bell of this fight. Never mind the KC supes with higher magical resistance and proven stronger than Pre flashpoint superman, star man and the Alan Scott who is a power battery and was able of creating a self sustaining, massive and complex emerald space station. (iv seen it argued he could take lesser green lanterns rings away off the death stroke/Kyle Rayner feat) never mind everyone else. Just bring some sort of actual construction to this fight.

Yeah, KC Flash was practically everywhere, but we really don't know how fast unless it was stated. KC Supes doesn't have any lifting feats like DCnU Supes who lifted the weight of the planet for five days.

And just because Alan is the power battery doesn't mean he can take someone in a fight. I don't remember any feats from him.

How is the KC JLA going to deal with Deadman?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Golgo13
Why? laughing out loud

Golgo13
Any other feats I should know? stick out tongue

Diesldude
Why are you guys messing with the hitman?

It's obvious he is running behind on his quota of creating new threads in a week. So let the man do his job. LOL

abhilegend
The only combat showing of KC alan AFAIK was getting owned by green arrow.
stick out tongue

quanchi112
Originally posted by Diesldude
Why are you guys messing with the hitman?

It's obvious he is running behind on his quota of creating new threads in a week. So let the man do his job. LOL I do agree he's trying to create as many threads daily as he can. It's pretty obvious.

Golgo13
Originally posted by abhilegend
The only combat showing of KC alan AFAIK was getting owned by green arrow.
stick out tongue

Horrible. I guess he doesn't have as much battle feats to compete.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Golgo13
Horrible. I guess he doesn't have as much battle feats to compete. laughing out loud

Golgo13
Still waiting for some feats, BTW. Obsidian might be able to stop Deadman, but not entirely sure.

SevenShackles
Did you read kingdom come or the kingdom?
Not really battle oriented comic.

Golgo13
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Did you read kingdom come or the kingdom?
Not really battle oriented comic.

Then how is it a stomp?

SevenShackles
Originally posted by Golgo13
Then how is it a stomp?

KC jL

Superman: The leader of the League and a silver templed Man of Steel who is growing uneasy with the role of being a world leader during a time of extreme tension. Due to a lifetime of absorbing yellow-solar radiation, he is more powerful than ever, and has even become resistant to kryptonite. His invulnerability is high enough to withstand the nuclear bomb at the Gulag; however he's still vulnerable to magic (In the novelization, it is implied he may no longer be particularly vulnerable to magic after his battle with Captain Marvel). Superman dons his "S" symbol shield on his chest with a black backdrop rather than the original yellow, a color that symbolizes that he is still in mourning not only because of Lois Lane's assassination by the Joker, but his own stance regarding the superhuman issue.

Wonder Woman: Superman's lieutenant is being slowly consumed by an inner rage directed at the state of the world and her exile from Paradise Island. Her fellow Amazons have deemed her mission to bring peace to "man's world" a failure. At the conclusion, she is restored her royal station as Princess, but eschews the ambassadorial role of "Wonder Woman", leaving it to other Amazons. (In the novelization, Cressida becomes the new Wonder Woman.)

Red Robin: Dick Grayson, the first Robin, has replaced Batman on the Justice League and is estranged from his former mentor.

Flash: After melding with the Speed Force, the Flash's molecules have become unstable and as a result, he is constantly in motion; this allows him to see every plane of existence, including ethereal planes. He is referred to as "Wallace West" in the novelization; Waid later confirmed this Flash to be Wally West in The Kingdom, although his costume resembles that of Jay Garrick. He is saved from the Gulag bombing by Green Lantern Jade's shields.

Green Lantern: Ending his vigil among the stars, Alan Scott returns to Earth and joins Superman's crusade. He needs no power ring, having incorporated the lantern that fueled the ring into his armor. His space station, dubbed "New Oa", becomes the Justice League's new satellite headquarters. At the conclusion of the miniseries, he becomes a UN charter member under the nation of New Oa.

Hawkman: Now a literal 'hawk-man', he has become a guardian of nature, though also referred to as an ecological terrorist. The story does not specify which version of Hawkman this is, apart from "combining the spirit of the old with the otherworldly flesh of the new", which suggests Carter Hall in the body of the post-Zero Hour "Hawkgod".

Donna Troy: Seen wearing Amazon robes, it is possible the former Wonder Girl may have replaced her sister/mentor Wonder Woman as Paradise Island's ambassador to the world. She has also aged considerably compared to Diana: going slightly gray and putting on weight.

Red Arrow: The former Speedy and Arsenal is now following in the footsteps of his mentor, the Green Arrow, down to a mustache, goatee and exact copy of Green Arrow's costume, but in red.

Aquaman: Garth, the former Aqualad, now the inheritor of his mentor's mantle as Aquaman.

Aleea Strange: Adam Strange's daughter, who has taken up her father's mantle.

Power Woman

Robotman: The former Cyborg, now composed of liquid metal.

Red Tornado I: A heavily armed Mathilda Hunkel.

Human Bomb: An explosion-causing metahuman. The collected edition calls him "the same combustible hero of old", implying this is Roy Lincoln.

Midnight: The ghost of Dr. Mid-Nite, appearing in the form of a smoke-cloud.

Captain Comet: .

Bulletman and Bulletgirl: The successors of the original Golden Age duo.

Brainiac's Daughter: Brainiac's offspring and the ancestor of Brainiac 5. This character was inspired by the XTC song of the same name, and is visually based on the pre-Crisis Supergirl (who was the object of an unrequited love by Brainiac 5).

Red Tornado: A female Red Tornado with wind-powers. Her identity as Maxine Hunkel is confirmed by Superman in Justice Society of America (vol. 3) #10.

Star man: (The former) Star Boy from the Legion of Super Heroes. As revealed in Justice Society of America (vol 3) #2

Golden Guardian: The second clone of Jim Harper, who took up his predecessor's role.

Hourman: The successor of the first two Hourmen, not having his predecessor's time limit.

Sandman: Formerly Sandy the Golden Boy, then Sand, he's taken up the mantle of Sandman after his mentor, Wesley Dodds, died. The collection edition mentions that "the sands of time have stood still" for him, implying agelessness.

Living Doll: The daughter of Doll Man and Doll Girl.

Tornado: The ghost of the Tornado Champion, the sentient entity that was part of Red Tornado II (John Smith).

Avia: The daughter of Mister Miracle and Big Barda.

Atom Smasher

Ray: Son of the first Ray. He was one of the survivors of the Gulag battle after being teleported out of the fight by Fate. The Ray is responsible for removing the radiation from Kansas, twice - once after the Justice Battalion disaster and the second time after the Gulag bombing.

Power Man: An android programmed by Superman.

Phoebus: Earth's newest fire elemental after Firestorm.

Alloy: The combined form of the Metal Men.

SevenShackles
Then in that pic you used it shows the other heroes in the comic under batman who would be the follow 'outsiders' (which I show since they show up in the op pics which are supposed to tell us who is supposed to be fighting here. Kinda confusing)


-Batman: Since his real identity was made public, the Batman no longer hides behind the carefree appearance of Bruce Wayne; as a result, Wayne Manor was destroyed by Two-Face and Bane. In fact, he is referred to as "The Batman" even in civilian guise and does not bother with the cape and cowl until the final battle. No longer the example of human perfection, he now requires an exoskeleton to move and uses robots and a battle suit to continue his war on crime. He has consequently transformed Gotham City into a police state, his former guise as the cowled vigilante being replaced by an army of large bat-like machines which patrol the streets, controlled by Batman from his sealed-off Batcave. His distrust of both Superman and Luthor leads him to form the Outsiders. He objects to both the League and the MLF's plans for making a better world, feeling mankind should be able to make its own decisions and mistakes.

-Oliver Queen: One of Batman's partners, he has married his long-time love Dinah Lance, Black Canary, and the two have a daughter, Olivia Queen, who also operates as Black Canary. According to the novel, he was killed in the nuclear blast (his skeleton can be seen on page 187, directly to the left of Superman, still cradling his wife).

-Dinah Queen: One of Batman's partners, the former Black Canary now wields a bow like her husband Green Arrow. She was among the fatalities in the Gulag battle, with one panel showing Green Arrow holding her body in his arms after she was accidentally shot in the head by the metahuman Trix. She dies in Queen's arms during the blast.

-Black Canary: Olivia Queen, daughter of Oliver and Dinah Queen.

-Blue Beetle: Ted Kord, one of Batman's partners, who now wears a Blue Beetle armored battle suit powered by the mystical scarab that gave the first Blue Beetle his powers. Kord is also killed in the nuclear blast (the Black Racer is seen behind him just beforehand).

-Jonn Jonzz: Once the Martian Manhunter, he has become a shell of his former self and can no longer control his powers. He tried to touch all humanity's mind at once and could not handle the torrents of hate, love, anger, sadness and joy. A shattered spirit, he maintains a permanently non-corporeal human form at all times now and does not participate in any super heroics until Batman persuades him to help one last time. His presumed daughter's body - in a variation of his classic costume - is seen lying on the ground during the final battle at the Gulag. He is seen a few pages previous in the Justice League headquarters. It is unconfirmed if J'onn himself participated in the Gulag battle.
Kid Flash is the daughter of Wally West. According to the novel, she was among those killed by the nuclear blast. However, she appears in The Kingdom, as well as in The Flash (in the "Chain Lightning" arc) due to Hypertime.

-Darkstar: Son of Donna Troy, who has taken her place as Earth's Darkstar.

-Obsidian: Son of Alan Scott and brother to Jennie-Lynn Hayden. He manipulates shadows and darkness. His appearance resembles that of The Shadow.

-Green Lantern: Jade took up the mantle of Green Lantern after Kyle Rayner. Daughter of Alan Scott. She has all the powers of a Green Lantern without needing a ring. She saves herself, her father and some other heroes from the Gulag bombing with a Green Lantern shield. In Justice Society of America (vol. 3) #22, she is shown 20 years later attending Batman's funeral in the company of a younger man wearing a Green Lantern ring.

-Tula: A seafaring malcontent. Daughter of the former Aqualad and Deep Blue. In the novelization

-Steel: After Superman went into seclusion, Steel switched his devotion to Batman. He now wields an iron bat-shaped battle axe.

-Wildcat: A man-panther with the spirit of the first Wildcat, Ted Grant.

AZatara: The son of the late Zatanna and John Constantine, and grandson of Giovanni Zatara. Besides being a magician, he's inherited his father's ability to see the dead. According to the novel, he was so horrified by the nuclear blast that he was unable to use his magic to escape.

-Nightstar: The daughter of Dick Grayson and the deceased Starfire. She has inherited her mother's powers and abilities, but decides not to join her father in the Justice League. Effectively Batman's adoptive granddaughter, she becomes close to his natural son Ibn al Xu'ffasch. Survived the nuclear blast because, even though they were on opposite sides, she flew her father Red Robin away after he was injured in the fight. Justice Society of America (vol. 2) #22 shows her 20 years later at Batman's funeral, married to Ibn with two kids.
Menagerie: Formerly Beast Boy, whose power is now limited to imaginary creatures.

-Nucloid: An elastic superhero with a nuclear core. His elongated skeleton can be seen amongst the bodies after the Gulag bombing.

-Huntress: An African superheroine based on the Golden Age Huntress Paula Brooks.

-Cossack: A member of The Batmen Of Many Nations, the Champion of Russia.

-Ace: An alien Bat-Hound, the giant winged steed of the Fourth World Bat-woman

-bat woman : A Batman admirer from the Fourth World.

-Samurai: A member of The Batmen Of Many Nations, the Champion of Japan.

-Dragon: A member of The Batmen Of Many Nations, the Champion of China.

-Creeper: Though he has aged, he is still the insane screwball he was when he was young. In the novelization, he switches sides several times during the Gulag battle, and is killed in the nuclear blast.

-Lightning: The daughter of Black Lightning and sister of Thunder.

-Condor: The last Black Condor.

-Ralph Dibny: The former Elongated Man, Ralph is contorted out of shape. It is presumed that he did not participate in the final battle at the Gulag - in Justice Society of America (vol. 3) #22, he is shown 20 years later attending Batman's funeral.

-Spy Smasher: An independent agent, in a post Cold War era.

-Phantom Lady: A literal phantom of the original version, who resembles Bettie Page.

-Red Hood: The daughter of Red Arrow and mercenary Cheshire.

-Fate: Nabu is able to channel his consciousness through the Helm and Cloak without the need for a host body. His primary role in the Gulag battle was using the Cloak as a teleporter - first he transported Batman's entire team to the Gulag battle and then saves several heroes from the nuclear blast by 'swallowing' them with the Cloak during the battle.

-Mr. Scarlet: A bright red devil of a man known for hanging out at Titans Tower bar with Matrix, the new Joker's Daughter, and the new Thunder.


Alot eh? I tried to remove the 'died in the nuke' type stuff so it's not such a long read of seeing the same crap over and over but kinda got lazy near the end.

Alot of it is implied power and experience. Never mind the lvl that flash is operating at but depending on how you go with it you have a older, smarter version of cyborg in a liquid metal body with a no kryptonite, no magic weakness seasoned vet superman behind him with rage filled wonder woman with sword and shield, power woman, gravity manipulating star man and really alot of pain in the ass people who's existence is based off of 'I'm better than my standard version'

Oh about deadman, midnight is a ghost.. Maybe they can rumble if dr.fate doesn't beat him silly.

Oh and I forgot King marvel and lady marvel in supermans team (adult cap marvel jr and Mary marvel)

tkitna
But who do you think would win?

laughing

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