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Wildstorm Lady Zannah vs. Gotg's Gamora

Gam Gam..
At least as skilled, but way too strong for Sister Z. Plus there's her crazy healing factor.

Green Gams

Zealot could win if she taps into her forbidden powers. I don't agree that Gamora is stronger BTW, I mean Z was able to handle a 25 ft Maul in a training Sim.

Gamora stomps.

Zealot.

Originally posted by Stoic
I don't agree that Gamora is stronger BTW, I mean Z was able to handle a 25 ft Maul in a training Sim.
Huh?? She routinely deals with class 100's. She can straight up tank their hits too....

Didn't Wolvie beat Gamorra? WHo has Gamora beaten in HTH that was actually SKILLED?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Didn't Wolvie beat Gamorra? WHo has Gamora beaten in HTH that was actually SKILLED?

She fights cosmic peeps no one has ever heard of. Bottom line she is at least as skilled as Z, but several classes in strength above and has a healing factor. Zealot ain't beating her.

Can Gamora's healing protect her from Z's swords?

Didn't zealot have a healing factor? I vaugly remember a comic her leg got ripped up by machine gun fire and healed rather quickly during combat. Could be wrong but still Zealot shouldn't win.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
She fights cosmic peeps no one has ever heard of. Bottom line she is at least as skilled as Z, but several classes in strength above and has a healing factor. Zealot ain't beating her.
'no one has ever heard of' damn way to be harsh to Ronan the Accuser.

Gamora is CL70 she dominates Z

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Gamora is CL70 she dominates Z

What lifting/strength feats does she have?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Huh?? She routinely deals with class 100's. She can straight up tank their hits too....

Ronan is not a class 100. He's lucky if he cracks class 70. Z can tank heavy hits too. Maul is actually a true class 100. Like I said Z could win this, and if she allows herself to access her forbidden powers she could put Gamora in a lot of trouble. Just saying that she has a chance to win this, so anyone calling for a stomp should check out some Wildcats comics.

Zealot has fought Midnighter (Who has taken blows from similar class 100), Backlash, and hurt beings in the class 50-85 ton range as well. Not to mention her swords can pierce the likes of Mr. Majestic. Gamora might win, but it won't be easy.

Gamora fights Class 100+, hell she spared with Thanos and striking him with nerves shots even though they have no affect on him, she was punking maxium. And she one shot Drax with/ power gem. Gamora is class 25 tons since her resurrection, and better healing factor, next to Champion of the Universe she is the best MA in marvel universe.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Gamora fights Class 100+, hell she spared with Thanos and striking him with nerves shots even though they have no affect on him, she was punking maxium. And she one shot Drax with/ power gem. Gamora is class 25 tons since her resurrection, and better healing factor, next to Champion of the Universe she is the best MA in marvel universe.


It won't be easy even if she does win, Zealot is a beast in a fight, and has thousands of years of hard core MA training. Anyone thinking that this is a stomp has to read up on some older Wildcats books up to present. Plus she has forbidden powers that she could tap into the way that she did with Tapestry. Both work hard for the win.

Her "forbidden powers" are irrelevant: she gave them up ~15 years ago and had next to zero feats with them.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Her "forbidden powers" are irrelevant: she gave them up ~15 years ago and had next to zero feats with them.

Her skill is still enough that this would not be a stomp, and she has proven that she can drop Class 100's.

Gamora literally made Drax throw up the Power Gem with a kick. Before her current upgrade.

Now she just gets all her skin melted off her by a sun and still manages to walk over and shut off a switch.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Didn't Wolvie beat Gamorra? WHo has Gamora beaten in HTH that was actually SKILLED?

Wolverine only won due to a distraction before the distraction it was even.

Didn't Zealot lost to a guy with a mask?

Who has Zealot beaten in HTH that is actually Skilled?

This type of logic can applied for both.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Don't know of direct lifting feats but here are some things to gauge from.

Taking out united nations invasion fleet in 8 minutes (including tanks, fight mostly takes place off panel) strength and speed feat
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/armybattalionln4.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/295/army2strengthvz2.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/badmoveyn5.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/216/army3vd0.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/224/army4cl4.jpg

Damaging rouge and she-hulk with physical attacks
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/216/iwqn9.jpg
Another look at the she hulk kick
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/70/alphaflight11109gb9.jpg

Now for post upgrade feats..

Not much is shown of her fight with Terrax but she does essentially win and you can see her strikes hurt him.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/178/annihilation3016es2.jpg

VS Ronan



Yeah Gamora for the majority. I recall Thanos bleeding from her hits and he stated anyone else would have been dead or something probably because Thanos is immortal.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Gamora literally made Drax throw up the Power Gem with a kick. Before her current upgrade.

Now she just gets all her skin melted off her by a sun and still manages to walk over and shut off a switch.


Nice do you have scans of those two feats?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Nice do you have scans of those two feats?
Here are some.

Kicks drax and makes him puke power gem
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/175/infintywars0429ki5.jpg

Accidenly punches drax with a punch meant for pip (I just like this scan lol)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/warlockandtheinfinitywapr3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/goodshotvt4.jpg

Fights Maxam +100 character
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/warlocktheinfinitywatchci4.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/warlocktheinfinitywatchio6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/warlocktheinfinitywatchse8.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/warlocktheinfinitywatchyj8.jpg

When she's is hit by wolverine. Obviously distracted
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/possiblehealingfactor1vv0.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/241/possiblehealingfactor2aw9.jpg

Takes place after the one shots of rouge and she hulk, she gets tackled by wolverine and this is how they manage to deal with her. Wolverine + Guardian holding her down while strong guy swings at her head. Wolverine was NOT handling her himself. (iv noticed alot of people assume he did because he tackled her)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/iw3hb7.jpg

VS thanos

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Here are some.

Kicks drax and makes him puke power gem
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/175/infintywars0429ki5.jpg

Accidenly punches drax with a punch meant for pip (I just like this scan lol)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/warlockandtheinfinitywapr3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/goodshotvt4.jpg

Fights Maxam +100 character
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/warlocktheinfinitywatchci4.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/warlocktheinfinitywatchio6.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/warlocktheinfinitywatchse8.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/169/warlocktheinfinitywatchyj8.jpg

When she's is hit by wolverine. Obviously distracted
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/possiblehealingfactor1vv0.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/241/possiblehealingfactor2aw9.jpg

Takes place after the one shots of rouge and she hulk, she gets tackled by wolverine and this is how they manage to deal with her. Wolverine + Guardian holding her down while strong guy swings at her head. Wolverine was NOT handling her himself. (iv noticed alot of people assume he did because he tackled her)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/iw3hb7.jpg

VS thanos


Has Gamora actually beaten a class 100? Zealot took it to Maul once.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Nice do you have scans of those two feats?

Found the other feat you wanted to see
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Gamora/Gamora-Sun.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Gamora/Gamora-Sun2.jpg

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Found the other feat you wanted to see
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Gamora/Gamora-Sun.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Gamora/Gamora-Sun2.jpg


I just need to ask, but do you think Gamora is going to stomp Zealot? I see this being a decent match up.

Originally posted by Stoic
I just need to ask, but do you think Gamora is going to stomp Zealot? I see this being a decent match up.

I think it would be a great fight that ends with gamora winning. Yeah zealot has beaten Maul. Im not saying that isn't awesome but the only think that stunts gamora and her feats are plot convenient happenings.. Like her nearly always being hit from behind out of nowhere, stopping her from continuing whatever beating she so happens to be handing out ATM. Zealot was handled differently in comic and given more chances to shine in my opinion but in a forum fight with a PIS-less Gamora using all her abilities. (even is supposed to have a precognitive tracking instinct -see link below- ) the only time she was allowed to shine was when she fought thanos and when she used pressure point attacks on characters normally unaffected by such attacks due to super durability. Something I don't think zealot could reproduce (strength) so given the strength Gamora has shown with her skill she pulls majority. Zealot is a badass and would make it one hell of a fight but loses.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Gamora/gamoraprecog.jpg

If she plays her precog abilities to the fullest, I might give it to Gamora, but Zealot otherwise.

Originally posted by Golgo13
If she plays her precog abilities to the fullest, I might give it to Gamora, but Zealot otherwise.
I'd love to see how u think Zealot takes a majority here.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'd love to see how u think Zealot takes a majority here.

Sword cuts off head. Blades has pierced Majestic. Don't see what they can't Gamora.

Originally posted by Stoic
Her skill is still enough that this would not be a stomp, and she has proven that she can drop Class 100's.
Zealot is probably more skilled, but she hasn't "dropped" any Class 100's.

Zealot is a high street by feats. The only real argument for her that I see, is if you think Gamora's healing factor isn't that great.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Has Gamora actually beaten a class 100? Zealot took it to Maul once.
She didn't "take it to Maul." She didn't even beat Maul in a fight. She kicked a not-fully-grown Maul off her in a training simulator. It belongs in the same basket as Batman kicking the wind out of Wonder Woman or Captain America KOing Hulk, and isn't even as impressive as the aforementioned.

Maul, at any significant size, would crush Zealot.

The Maul feat sounds way better than hurting PG Drax multiple times, and one shotting She Hulk

Originally posted by Golgo13
Sword cuts off head. Blades has pierced Majestic. Don't see what they can't Gamora.
Don't see why Gams can just punch her head off.

The Maxim and Drax stuff is old news to me, but the Sun feat is new. Impressive.

The thing is, looking is look at the Maxim fights, she never actually seemed to hurt him. Stagger him, knock him around a bit, but not doing any actual damage..

At best that could be comparable to Doc Sampson vs Hulk, at worst comparable to Iron Fist vs Rulk (In terms of Rand being able to knock Rulk across a good length of distance, but not really being able to hurt him..)

These kinds of feat say a lot about her striking power and skill, but they don't say as much about her speed and durability though, because Drax and Maxim aren't exactly known for their speed.

And her durability is kind of all over the place. Wolverine can stagger her (Sneak attack or not), Spidey can affect her, and Maxim can knock her out pretty easy. Yet, there's what she took against Ronan, and this insane Sun feat...

Not that Zealot is exactly a class 100 brick herself, looking at how she fared against, say, Midnighter..

Originally posted by cdtm
The Maxim and Drax stuff is old news to me, but the Sun feat is new. Impressive.

The thing is, looking is look at the Maxim fights, she never actually seemed to hurt him. Stagger him, knock him around a bit, but not doing any actual damage..

At best that could be comparable to Doc Sampson vs Hulk, at worst comparable to Iron Fist vs Rulk (In terms of Rand being able to knock Rulk across a good length of distance, but not really being able to hurt him..)

These kinds of feat say a lot about her striking power and skill, but they don't say as much about her speed and durability though, because Drax and Maxim aren't exactly known for their speed.

And her durability is kind of all over the place. Wolverine can stagger her (Sneak attack or not), Spidey can affect her, and Maxim can knock her out. Yet, there's what she took against Drax, and this insane Sun feat...

Not that Zealot is exactly a class 100 brick herself, looking at how she fared against, say, Midnighter.. She has been significantly upgraded since her sneak attack losses, and Spudder Man can hurt anyone

Originally posted by SevenShackles
I think it would be a great fight that ends with gamora winning. Yeah zealot has beaten Maul. Im not saying that isn't awesome but the only think that stunts gamora and her feats are plot convenient happenings.. Like her nearly always being hit from behind out of nowhere, stopping her from continuing whatever beating she so happens to be handing out ATM. Zealot was handled differently in comic and given more chances to shine in my opinion but in a forum fight with a PIS-less Gamora using all her abilities. (even is supposed to have a precognitive tracking instinct -see link below- ) the only time she was allowed to shine was when she fought thanos and when she used pressure point attacks on characters normally unaffected by such attacks due to super durability. Something I don't think zealot could reproduce (strength) so given the strength Gamora has shown with her skill she pulls majority. Zealot is a badass and would make it one hell of a fight but loses.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Gamora/gamoraprecog.jpg


You know that Jim Lee copied the Tarakian hot chick from the Heavy Metal movie when he created Zealot right?

Oh and I can dig your assessment. All of this stomp mess has to go at times.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
She has been significantly upgraded since her sneak attack losses, and Spudder Man can hurt anyone

Is the extent of her upgrade defined yet, though? Or just nebulously implied as "better"?

If the Sun feat is any indication, she's pretty damned powerful now, but that's still just "one" feat of durability, impressive as it is.

If all we went by is one feat, then Rand is right up there with Gamora, via the train "Hiroshima nuke looks like a sparkler" feat.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The Maul feat sounds way better than hurting PG Drax multiple times, and one shotting She Hulk
I know, right?
Originally posted by cdtm
And her durability is kind of all over the place. Wolverine can stagger her (Sneak attack or not), Spidey can affect her, and Maxim can knock her out pretty easy. Yet, there's what she took against Ronan, and this insane Sun feat...

The Wolverine example is the only relevant one. Everyone else is much stronger than Zealot.
Originally posted by Stoic
Oh and I can dig your assessment. All of this stomp mess has to go at times.
Pretty sure he was saying that on the assumption that Zealot actually beat Maul.....which she didn't.

Originally posted by cdtm
Is the extent of her upgrade defined yet, though? Or just nebulously implied as "better"?

If the Sun feat is any indication, she's pretty damned powerful now, but that's still just "one" feat of durability, impressive as it is.

If all we went by is one feat, then Rand is right up there with Gamora, via the train "Hiroshima nuke looks like a sparkler" feat. Well, she outgrappled Terrax, and tossed Ronan a couple hundred yards which looked to be way out of her strength range previously. She also tanked a pissed off all out Ronan as well, when he had some pretty decent feats in Annihilation. I'd have to look back to find more, but I kind of want to reread GOTG anyway, so I'll get back to you on that one.

Her skill remains the same, maybe a little better, but her body is at least in the Spider-Man range.

Rand is way more powerful than her, let's be serious here.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I know, right?

The Wolverine example is the only relevant one. Everyone else is much stronger than Zealot.

Pretty sure he was saying that on the assumption that Zealot actually beat Maul.....which she didn't.



Did I say that she beat Maul? I said that she handled him pretty easily in a training Sim, and if that wasn't my exact words, this is what I meant.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I know, right?

The Wolverine example is the only relevant one. Everyone else is much stronger than Zealot.

Pretty sure he was saying that on the assumption that Zealot actually beat Maul.....which she didn't.


Oh yeah, and the instance that I'm talking about, didn't Z school Maul, and the Wolverine clone Cyblade?

Originally posted by Stoic
You know that Jim Lee copied the Tarakian hot chick from the Heavy Metal movie when he created Zealot right?

Oh and I can dig your assessment. All of this stomp mess has to go at times.
Seriously? That's awesome! Thanks for that bit of trivia man.

Glad you can dig it



Originally posted by StyleTime
I know, right?

The Wolverine example is the only relevant one. Everyone else is much stronger than Zealot.

Pretty sure he was saying that on the assumption that Zealot actually beat Maul.....which she didn't.

Yup on the wolverine comment. He also cut her and she healed rather quickly so it's also a nice early healing factor feat. (not that it matters with her most recent incarnations upgrade with her sun feat)

Oh I didn't think she beat him like in a real fight. Beat him as in = win the sim. And I called it awesome not to take away from it so I wouldn't get "but she did blahblah to maul" as a reply. Acknowledged it happened (in whatever shape or form) but gamora has more working for her than that (which was my point)

Sorry if It didn't come across that way


Here is a question to anyone who knows. What exactly happen between gamora and Thor in infinity crusade? Iv seen her fight asgardian trolls and the such but I vaugly remember her fighting or having to deal/stall a power gem amped Thor. (it has been a long time) after I think they take Thor to Thanos so he can handle him. I don't own the comics so I can't check. If scans exist I'd like to see them.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Seriously? That's awesome! Thanks for that bit of trivia man.

Glad you can dig it





Yup on the wolverine comment. He also cut her and she healed rather quickly so it's also a nice early healing factor feat. (not that it matters with her most recent incarnations upgrade with her sun feat)

Oh I didn't think she beat him like in a real fight. Beat him as in = win the sim. And I called it awesome not to take away from it so I wouldn't get "but she did blahblah to maul" as a reply. Acknowledged it happened (in whatever shape or form) but gamora has more working for her than that (which was my point)

Sorry if It didn't come across that way


Here is a question to anyone who knows. What exactly happen between gamora and Thor in infinity crusade? Iv seen her fight asgardian trolls and the such but I vaugly remember her fighting or having to deal/stall a power gem amped Thor. (it has been a long time) after I think they take Thor to Thanos so he can handle him. I don't own the comics so I can't check. If scans exist I'd like to see them.
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
Thor vs Infinity Watch

Note: Infinity Watch is a very powerful team composed of characters such as Dr. Strange, Drax with the power gem, Maxam, and Moondragon, among others.

http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/?action=view&current=ThorvsInfinity1.jpg
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Gah another 'hit from behind' type deal. Anyway i still appreciate the scans Branlor Swift, Thanks.

Originally posted by Stoic
I just need to ask, but do you think Gamora is going to stomp Zealot? I see this being a decent match up.

No she would not stomp. The match leans in her favor due to her strength, and healing factor.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Zealot is probably more skilled, but she hasn't "dropped" any Class 100's.

Zealot is a high street by feats. The only real argument for her that I see, is if you think Gamora's healing factor isn't that great.
She didn't "take it to Maul." She didn't even beat Maul in a fight. She kicked a not-fully-grown Maul off her in a training simulator. It belongs in the same basket as Batman kicking the wind out of Wonder Woman or Captain America KOing Hulk, and isn't even as impressive as the aforementioned.
Maul, at any significant size, would crush Zealot.
Hey Prep, wut do u have to say about this?

Originally posted by cdtm
Is the extent of her upgrade defined yet, though? Or just nebulously implied as "better"?
If the Sun feat is any indication, she's pretty damned powerful now, but that's still just "one" feat of durability, impressive as it is.
If all we went by is one feat, then Rand is right up there with Gamora, via the train "Hiroshima nuke looks like a sparkler" feat. Look at scans. Looks pretty darn durable to me. Not to mention her healing factor is still up to par.

Originally posted by "Id"
No she would not stomp. The match leans in her favor due to her strength, and healing factor.
Not stomp, but she should win almost every time.

Too fast, too skilled.
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Still too fast and too skilled.
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Tangles with some super Badoon!
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She's got amazing speed (even dodges gun/lazer fire), skill (scans are pretty self explanatory), strength, stout durability, and still has one hell of a healing factor. Badassery all around!

I still don't see it as a stomp for Gamora. Midnighter (super fast, super strength, and battle computer) didn't stomp Zealot and neither would Gamora.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I still don't see it as a stomp for Gamora. Midnighter (super fast, super strength, and battle computer) didn't stomp Zealot and neither would Gamora.
So let's be clear. U now think Gam wins..? Btw can u expand on ure statement of "taking it to Maul" in regards to Z?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So let's be clear. U now think Gam wins..? Btw can u expand on ure statement of "taking it to Maul" in regards to Z?


She schooled him, and Reno if I remember correctly. Despite Styletime trying to lessen the feat, Zealot is a highly trained warrior, and Gamora isn't going to take her down without taking her licks.

Here is Z's respect thread. I don't think it includes the Midnighter feat where she fights for hours, but she this shows she is also super strong and fast. It also shows that she fights beings who are also very skilled. Unlike Gamora.

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/citizenbane/blog/zealot-capability-thread/80990/

Originally posted by Golgo13
Here is Z's respect thread. I don't think it includes the Midnighter feat where she fights for hours, but she this shows she is also super strong and fast. It also shows that she fights beings who are also very skilled. Unlike Gamora.

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/citizenbane/blog/zealot-capability-thread/80990/
Damn. At least I was nice enough to show specific feats to further the thread. I don't wanna blindly rummage threw a respect thread

Nah, but seriously what about zealots weapons? I forget if there was anything special about them or if that was only Nemesis (indestructible blade) if so how would you compare it to Gamora's Godslayer?

Originally posted by Stoic
She schooled him, and Reno if I remember correctly. Despite Styletime trying to lessen the feat, Zealot is a highly trained warrior, and Gamora isn't going to take her down without taking her licks.
Scans...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Scans...


You'll just have to get Wildcats vol 1. It happened. Zealot isn't some scrub of a character, and to become the head of the Coda Assassins isn't just a title given out to anyone.

Originally posted by Golgo13
It also shows that she fights beings who are also very skilled. Unlike Gamora.

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/citizenbane/blog/zealot-capability-thread/80990/

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Damn. At least I was nice enough to show specific feats to further the thread. I don't wanna blindly rummage threw a respect thread

Nah, but seriously what about zealots weapons? I forget if there was anything special about them or if that was only Nemesis (indestructible blade) if so how would you compare it to Gamora's Godslayer?

It's not a big respect thread, so stop being lazy. The scans with Midnighter, Coda Warriors, and Warblade's are all there.

I maintain that if Gamora wins this, it won't be easy, she will find competition in Zealot.

Originally posted by Stoic
I maintain that if Gamora wins this, it won't be easy, she will find competition in Zealot.

I'm still asking for scans of Gamora fighting somoene with actual MA skill. We have seen Z fight the likes of Nemesis, Backlash, Midnighter, etc... but what about Gamora? Not saying she hasn't, but how has she done against Wolverine? Or Shang Chi? Or and Iron Fist?

Gamora wins every single battle

Originally posted by the Darkone
Gamora wins every single battle

How?

Originally posted by Golgo13
I'm still asking for scans of Gamora fighting somoene with actual MA skill. We have seen Z fight the likes of Nemesis, Backlash, Midnighter, etc... but what about Gamora? Not saying she hasn't, but how has she done against Wolverine? Or Shang Chi? Or and Iron Fist?


It's likely the title that has many swayed to call this an auto win for Gamora. Don't get me wrong, Gamora is badass, but so is Zealot.

Originally posted by Stoic
You'll just have to get Wildcats vol 1. It happened. Zealot isn't some scrub of a character, and to become the head of the Coda Assassins isn't just a title given out to anyone.
who's claiming that she's a scrub?? That particular feat is being touted here by u and prep-man so its only fair to showem.. I mean look at all the scans contributed by the Gamora side when a feat for her is given as example..

bottom line is Gams is superior to her in virtually all physical attributes coupled with a high level healing factor. The Gams side, maintain that she can hang with Z skillwise. The only real way Gams doesn't take a healthy majority is if Z is just that much better as a fighter... I just don't see how she can overcome such as wide gap when comparing their natural abilities. Even though lacking in showings against named "high level fighters", Gams has always been portrayed as one of the best martial artists in Marvel U... Since she's a space-faring fighter, it's basically inherent in her character to not have much showings against many of Marvel earth's elite h2h combatants....

How is she portrayed as a good fighter if she hasn't beaten any A listers? The MA's on Marvel earth are more impressive than her. Fighting someone stronger and faster? Most skilled MA's have done things similar. Not really that impressive.

Originally posted by Golgo13
How is she portrayed as a good fighter if she hasn't beaten any A listers? The MA's on Marvel earth are more impressive than her. Fighting someone stronger and faster? Most skilled MA's have done things similar. Not really that impressive.
Dude are u fer serious? Really?
So I guess characters like Bor or Yuga Khan cannot routinely beat heralds because they've never really beaten many famous ones on panel right?

smh...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Dude are u fer serious? Really?
So I guess characters like Bor or Yuga Khan cannot routinely beat heralds because they've never really beaten many famous ones on panel right?

smh...

Those guys have feats of power, though. This fight would end in skill. On paper, Gamora should be more skilled, but she has no feats that would suggest that she would beat someone like Zealot for a stomp.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Those guys have feats of power, though. This fight would end in skill. On paper, Gamora should be more skilled, but she has no feats that would suggest that she would beat someone like Zealot for a stomp.
Stop saying stomp. Why do you keep throwing that word around? Me believing Gams takes a healthy majority is not a stomp. A stomp pretty much says each fight would not even be close. I just showed u scans of her slicing up Badoon soldiers so fast they didn't even know wut hittem. She was also dodging gun/lazer fire fer cryin out loud. The shooter even looked to have a huge distance advantage, but to no avail.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Stop saying stomp. Why do you keep throwing that word around? Me believing Gams takes a healthy majority is not a stomp. A stomp pretty much says each fight would not even be close. I just showed u scans of her slicing up Badoon soldiers so fast they didn't even know wut hittem. She was also dodging gun/lazer fire fer cryin out loud. The shooter even looked to have a huge distance advantage, but to no avail.

No, because others have said it would be a stomp.

Originally posted by Golgo13
No, because others have said it would be a stomp.
Maybe on page 1 but honestly I must say I have mostly seen it coming from you. I don't think zealot pulls a majority but every time you say 'stomp' I cringe lol. Most of the ppl who aren't just dropping in and are actually commenting (and in turn reading whats written) here seem to all be in agreement that this is nowhere near a stomp. Just a healthy loss for zealot.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Maybe on page 1 but honestly I must say I have mostly seen it coming from you. I don't think zealot pulls a majority but every time you say 'stomp' I cringe lol. Most of the ppl who aren't just dropping in and are actually commenting (and in turn reading whats written) here seem to all be in agreement that this is nowhere near a stomp. Just a healthy loss for zealot.

I consider it a stomp when someone can't win one fight out of 10. Some other poster on this page said Gamora wins every time.

Gamora fairly convincingly. Better physical stats and nearly or just as skilled.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I consider it a stomp when someone can't win one fight out of 10. Some other poster on this page said Gamora wins every time.

Gave it a quick looking over and found this.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Gamora wins every single battle

Originally posted by Glorificus
Gamora stomps.

Both not saying much in this thread that's all that constructive..(or anything really) Sooo if they say Gamora stomps Zealot with the full power of grayskull who cares lol. Most likely don't know enough to back up their opinion.

Back on track here, do you think zealot could do what gamora did against either Ronan or Thanos? How would Zealot handle super strength pressure point attacks that have effected thanos, thing, rage etc. ? it's not a matter if Gamora can hit zealot but zealots durability/damage soak. can Zealot strike Gamora? I'm sure she can but gamora has also shown high durability outside of her PIS moments so outside of a precise sword strike (decap) I'm sure she can take it.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Gave it a quick looking over and found this.





Both not saying much in this thread that's all that constructive..(or anything really) Sooo if they say Gamora stomps Zealot with the full power of grayskull who cares lol. Most likely don't know enough to back up their opinion.

Back on track here, do you think zealot could do what gamora did against either Ronan or Thanos? How would Zealot handle super strength pressure point attacks that have effected thanos, thing, rage etc. ? it's not a matter if Gamora can hit zealot but zealots durability/damage soak. can Zealot strike Gamora? I'm sure she can but gamora has also shown high durability outside of her PIS moments so outside of a precise sword strike (decap) I'm sure she can take it.

I'd still like some reasoning from those who have said it, that's all. And I think the fight would come down to sword battle, if Gamora has her swords. Both have some powerful swords. Gamora's not more durable than Majestic and he still got cut up by her swords.

Gamora wins pretty much every time imo. Noticeably superior physical stats with a powerful healing factor (Not sure who's faster though.), and arguably as skilled.

Originally posted by Stoic
She schooled him, and Reno if I remember correctly. Despite Styletime trying to lessen the feat, Zealot is a highly trained warrior, and Gamora isn't going to take her down without taking her licks.
Lessen? I stated exactly what happened. She didn't "school" Maul. She kicked a mini-Maul off her. He wasn't KO'd. He wasn't even knocked over. She kicked him then they got ambushed.

Early Warblade wasn't quite the powerhouse he became after his Kheran training. Grifter and Misery were able to physically fight him back then.
Originally posted by SevenShackles

Yup on the wolverine comment. He also cut her and she healed rather quickly so it's also a nice early healing factor feat. (not that it matters with her most recent incarnations upgrade with her sun feat)

Oh I didn't think she beat him like in a real fight. Beat him as in = win the sim. And I called it awesome not to take away from it so I wouldn't get "but she did blahblah to maul" as a reply. Acknowledged it happened (in whatever shape or form) but gamora has more working for her than that (which was my point)

Sorry if It didn't come across that way
That's cool. I just didn't want people misunderstanding the Maul incident.
Originally posted by Stoic
You'll just have to get Wildcats vol 1. It happened. Zealot isn't some scrub of a character, and to become the head of the Coda Assassins isn't just a title given out to anyone.
No one said she's a scrub. We're pointing out the difference between a street leveler(Zealot) and Gamora though.
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Back on track here, do you think zealot could do what gamora did against either Ronan or Thanos?
No, she couldn't. By comparison, Gamora would have smashed Maul in that same situation.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gamora wins pretty much every time imo. Noticeably superior physical stats with a powerful healing factor (Not sure who's faster though.), and arguably as skilled.
Haven't read the new GoTG yet, but if that was her speed making her invisible, then Gamora is faster too.

I wouldn't count Z as a traditional street leveler like Cap or Deathstroke. They are typically a notch above.